true story behind it simply my husband went to peru because of the crisis here. if you hadn't gone there we would have died of hunger. that someone on down the. streets are told are 16. this is data would be news and these are on top stories. u.s. presidential candidate joe biden has described president donald trump's performance in law and their 1st televised debate as a national embarrassment the moderators struggle to control trump's frequent interruptions and disregard for the allocated time the debate commission says it will change its format to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues at the next 2 debates. of artes and better rusa tightening the screws on free media the country's most popular

independent news site has been suspended for 3 months following its coverage of anti-government protests other journalists in belarus have reported being threatened jailed or forced into exile tens of thousands of people have been rallying every week to demand that president alexander lukashenko resign. amin in and as a vision he forces have engaged in a 4th day of heavy fighting over the separatist region of nagorno-karabakh that's despite calls by the international community to cease hostilities dozens of people have been killed in the worst clashes same in the disputed region in decades. this is day to many news from berlin follow us on twitter and instagram and data with the news or visit our website dot com. it was a televised event that confirmed what many europeans have suspected since donald

trump became u.s. presidents europe's best friend american democracy is at best consumed with itself at worst being consumed by itself for 90 minutes 2 men in their seventy's were supposed to debate the future instead joe biden tried to be a deacon of decorum against donald trump the bully in chief he was the winner that is being debated who was the loser well that is clear america's democracy and all of us in the free world i'm burnt off in berlin this is the day. this is the ground i still left what are you sure as a president who is on your list you know that was pretty hard to follow. this is not as outlined in the family or his family as they're not your family. and the.

president burned down your stores and killed people little drama is that it is easy to point out how it's not because you say it is complete really substantive. b.s. and i'm not going to give really have ended this segment we're going to move on to the 2nd segment it was really just that experience this earnest. also coming up in bill russo people continue to protest demanding the president resign demanding fair and free elections but the government doesn't want the world to know that foreign journalists are being forced to leave. getting a new credit taishan for extending distinct papers is no longer possible there's no outright refusal just the same excuse over and over again the commission in charge they say called get together because of covert. well to our viewers watching on p.b.s. in the united states and to all of your around the world welcome we begin the day

with the debate debacle we cannot begin to list all of the adjectives used today to describe tuesday night's u.s. presidential debate many of the words we can't say on television the child friendly headline it reads the worst debate in living memory the debate between u.s. president donald trump and former vice president joe biden was a success for another one not the candidates and certainly not for democracy voters in the u.s. today have been lamenting that the 90 minute televised debate revealed a little about where the candidates stand on the most important issues such as the pandemic the economy and climate change here in europe america's allies say the debate was a nasty spectacle and embarrassment for american democracy the official reaction in china is a mixture of communist shot with we told you so in a moment we'll go through what was said and what wasn't said and discuss why it

matters to the world but 1st here are the highlights from an event that was not one of america's finer moments the fact is that everything he said so far is simply a lie i'm not here to call out his lies everybody knows he's a liar but you know i just want to be with it i want to make sure of who i did last night less than i am. i want to make sure i didn't can you let him finish there and he don't know how to do that the way to where is nowadays me off like well i'll as joe i'm you know join and it was the most unpopular i suspect of a comic i got rid of and i'd like to do it will present people in an audience moderator and just as i and i would like you to let me ask my question and then you can answer and i laid out again in july what we should be doing we should be provided all the protective gear plus we should be providing the money the house has passed in order to be able to go out. and get people the help they need to keep their businesses open open schools a cost

a lot of money you should get out of your bunker and get out of the sand trap and get in your golf course and go in the oval office and bring together the democrats republicans and fund what needs to be done now to save lives so you could never have done the job that we did you don't have it in your blood you could have never done that you know i know how to do the job i know how to get the job where you can do very well in swines the h one n one you were a disaster your own chief or it seems that out of the disaster t.v. 1000 people died not 200000 we have know their economic recession or you may have other would already know or just in his native point by now. we can say that's the under that's this is the end as that ballot count where not only for a day or 2 to be continued as in more debates as we go on president trump vice president biden it's been an interesting hour and a half i want to thank you both for participating while we want to dive into that debacle tonight to do that i'm joined here in the studio by julius fundal our

strategy and campaign consultant who worked with the obama campaigns in 200820125 jeremy shapiro he's research director at the european council on foreign relations he joins us tonight from london gentlemen to both of you did evening jeremy let me start with you in the u.s. many are calling it the worst presidential debate in living memory or in u.s. history what a bell on this side of the atlantic what did you think. yeah i've never seen anything as bad as that in any kind of debate and i think it's a sort of symptom of the way that trump has essentially degraded the state of american democracy i think i sort of felt for biden he had no choice but to respond in kind and it it's sort of demonstrates that by and that politicians are and in trying to respond to trump. if you don't come down to his level you

can't respond but if you do your degrading democracy you know that that's a good point judy as you've been front and center at presidential debates before me can you explain what happened last night well i think it was a reflection of where the debate in the campaign overall stands right now i mean everyone is yelling and the whole political discourse in the united states is just yelling over one another there's no real debate and so it's just people yelling at each other but they're not actually connecting or you know listening and talking about the issues i don't think people are talking with each other talking past each other there are several key moments that we want to take a look at tonight the 1st is when moderator chris wallace asked the president would he be willing to denounce white supremacists and militias such as the group proud boys would you take a listen what he said give me a name give me a why is a problem it doesn't like me can die proud son right proud of my boys stand back and stand by but i'll tell you what i'll tell you what somebody has got to do

something about anti fair and the left because this is not a right. to are now trying to stand by com it was music to the ears of right wing did right wing group for boys you see right there joe biden's twitter feed captured some of the euphoria before it was deleted see right there. standing by sir that was the reaction after they heard the president say stand by julie's what what would you have advised by their what should have been his response to me it goes back to charlottesville and you know what happened back then remember the press conference that gave later after those events took place and he was asked specifically about the proud boys and he said back then you know they're fine people on both sides he was present at the opportunity to clearly did now it's white supremacy and he passed on it twice yesterday and so i think it's

just pretty clear where he stands but i do think that it goes back to the strategy of dhamma show where he has a clear base plus strategy where he says i want to excite the base as much as i can because i know i can't reach those swing voters and right now there's still 12 percent of the american electorate which is undecided and so i think he's saying i can't reach those voters let me turn up the volume on my own base and expand my trump base the maga the make america great a again base and i think that's clearly a sign of what the strategy is for the trump campaign germy you've got a u.s. president who tells militias and right wing groups to stand by i mean this must be like manna falling from the skies for we're right wing movements here in europe. yeah i mean i suppose i think at this point it's not even really fair to say that trump has a strategy on this it's just sort of the only thing he knows how to do. and so i

think that the right wing movements in europe are are a little bit less inspired by trump then they used to be because he seems to be flailing about so much i'm not really sure. you know julius it's it's fine to say that there's 12 percent undecided i'm not really convinced of that i think that a lot of. a lot of the a lot of those 12 percent have really decided they're just aren't telling the polls and i think that what that trump is trump is who he is and so none of his political consultants are telling him to give a fillip to the proud boys but he's doing it because it's the only thing he knows how to do and in the moment he's very interested and exciting his base i'm not really sure that at this point that represents any kind of strategy that the european right wing glom onto something that's interesting let's talk about joe

biden and what he was criticize most for last night and that was his response to the question would she as u.s. president stack the u.s. supreme court add more justices to rebalance between liberal and conservative judges take a listen to what he said vote and let your senators know what's going on are you feeling that vote now and in fact they sure you in fact let people know senator i'm not going to answer the question because if you ask. the rational left would you sure don't listen who is on your list joe. johns i think this is. actually. going to get all right jim let me ask you what is the lesson there for those of us outside the united states watching. well i mean i think it reveals a sort of dilemma that the democrats have even if they should win the presidency

which is how much are they going to be sort of take the lesson from the trump presidency and particularly from the last 2 supreme supreme court fights over america and over the current one whether they're going to decide that they want to be norm shatters as well and if they get control are they going to pack the supreme court which is constitutional but not something that's been done in in many many decades in fact hundreds of well over 100 years and so it would be it would be a real nuclear weapon in the political battles and it would sort of reduce united states yet further into the partisan miasma that it's in but i think quite a few democrats and certainly the democratic base feels that there are the in that and they're already fighting that battle they're just losing it and so now they have to they want to do that i think it's not surprising that joe biden is unwilling to commit to that because it's

a little bit it's damaging before the election but he wouldn't be willing to dissuade his space and out it so there's no way he should answer that question julian i think you should have answered the question i think he should have said very clearly i will not pack the court i mean we're talking about right here is packing the court adding justices to the supreme court turning d.c. potentially in a state with told votes that is what they're talking about and chuck schumer was asked about and he said you know everything is on the table and. and i think this goes back to the strategy of the chum campaign that i've just mentioned where you know trump won so say look there is a radical left aliment whether that's true or not is a different question but that's what he's talking about when he's trying to excite his own base saying look the democrats want to stack the court their. want to take away your guns they want to pretty much roll back everything that we have fought for over decades and you know joe biden is not willing to commit if i would have

been joe biden i would have said clearly look i am a traditional democrat i am not looking to he said i am the democratic party and that is what he said but it did commit to the base well. that may say he needs to avoid he needs to avoid berating that base and i think that base. because i'm part of it is very tired of. not responding to the republicans and kind yeah i think the bad i do not see that take democrats let's stay home just because biden were to say i will not extend supreme court justices to 11 or 13. let me go on here before we run out of time but there does seem to be consensus that the debate fell deeply into the gutter when donald trump began to attacking joe by sons i want you to take a listen to that fiery and emotional exchange why sun was in iraq he spent

a year there he got he brought the bronze star he got a conspicuous service medal he was not a loser he was a patriot and the people left behind there were heroes really and i resented talking like you know your user can i talk about my son beau biden your top i don't know i don't know bow i know how to you know it all grown hunter got thrown out of the military he was thrown out dishonorably discharged not true as it was even years and he didn't have a job until you became vice president what you know out of that president he made a fortune in ukraine in china in mazatlan simply areas not of the place he my son which in turn my son and he didn't have a giant son like a lot of people like a lot of people you know at home had a drug problem he's overtaken he's he's he's fixed it he's worked on it and i'm proud of him. i was out of my millionaire and he was thinking right sensibilities of it. biden could have attacked

trump's family at that point but he did. i thought it was a strong as moment of joe biden in that entire debate you saw raw emotions and he was you know on the stand and the stand the bully upset about what trungpa just said i mean i think i could see a politician actually saying to chris wallace hold my coat and let me walk over there he didn't fortunately but i thought it was affective i thought we saw clear motions and i thought he connected with voters watching at home jimmy do you think it was that the moment when biden emerged as the winner of this debate. yeah i guess i agree i think that. what he managed to do in that moment was both show emotion and show control and it's always a difficult thing for a presidential candidate you want to show that you care deeply that you're emotionally in touch with these things that you feel things like other people feel

things but also that your emotions don't get control of you and that you are able to sort of process them in a way which will be you know amenable to being a leader and i think biden showed that in that moment it was a key moment with about one minute left and one as both of you the commission on presidential debates has announced this evening that it's going to be changes in things adding tools to maintain order for the next 2 debates jeremy you 1st will that fix this problem. i haven't heard that i'm not exactly sure what what rules they're going to change but my guess is that they will never be able to control trump and. probably enough i've read this on twitter i think david axelrod made the point they should add a mute button for the moderators just. that would be one thing but maybe you know in the last couple debates they had on several occasions new multiple moderators maybe that would change something but i think as long as the sides to

continue to run in the republican primary with the bullfight that he's putting on there i don't think there's a way to control them well we'll see if they if they do go with the mute button it'll be interesting to see the ways this is but an excellent discussion gentleman . veteran of the obama campaigns in 20082012 in london jeremy shapiro a research director at the european council on foreign relations the both of you gentlemen thank you very much. it is what all the currents and dictators do when they don't like the message they shut down or get rid of the messengers and that is exactly what is happening now in bill rubes the coverage of mass protests has gained traction and attention globally to the dismay of president lukashenko the result is now is not good news for foreign journalists connelly joins me in just a moment he was just forced to leave bella ruse but 1st his report on efforts to

get the media and what that means for the for chess move. weeks of protests capturing imaginations around the world colorful symbols charismatic leaders. it's often turned ugly security forces cracking down brutally on peaceful protests and when it did photographers and journalists were there to report. people here tell you one thing time and time again knowing that the world is watching makes them feel safer. they're sure the outside attention acts as a restraint on the government. 6 but journalists are facing increasing intimidation 2 photographers spent 15 days in jail for quote organizing an illegal protest they had taken pictures of a demonstration an editor who published an interview in which a victim of torture named his torture also ended up in jail and tire news outlets now stand to lose their media licenses without them their journalists could face

arrest at any time. foreign journalists like me haven't so far been subjected to this kind of treatment very soon there may not be any of us left here fellers getting a new credit taishan or extending the system papers is no longer possible there's no outright refusal just the same excuse over and over again the commission in charge they say called get together because of covert this in a country where the man in charge president alexander lukashenko who claims to have won the disputed election downplays the dangers of the coronavirus he has said that a visit to the sauna is the best treatment for the disease. has independent media here vanishes protesters fear a future in which there is no one left to document what the government does to its opponents. and with me here the big table is the w.'s very young economy that just got off the plane from ments niggas need to see you talk to me about what has

happened here basically you have. the choice right you had to you had to leave the country you didn't have your accreditation anymore well just me there's something that's affected basically all the foreign press i happen to have this paperwork from last year it was running out and every time i tried to renew it i was told unfortunately the commission in charge called me this is. not a very convincing argument in a country where the president says go to the soul and if you have coded or write attracted to make yourself healthy again so that's something an excuse that's been peddles to not just us but to all the main international media and basically in a few weeks on this can be no one left with right good they're just letting everyone's accreditation run out. and then there be no foreign journalists left that is the plan. what about the local journalists there that you know that you've worked with the mean are they in are in danger and are they even going to be able to make a living with this crackdown why the way it is they're very definitely in danger i was at one of the women's much as just last weekend and one of the local belarusian

journalist was taken in she had an accreditation she was working clearly identifying herself as a journalist wearing a. jacket and she was given 15 days in jail for quote organizing a space in an illegal demonstration and for not cooperating the police she was a big fine and essentially she's going to lose her accreditation she will be banned from working in her own country the country's biggest news service to buy has been taken off basically has been blocked for now for 3 months that's a kind of warning shot across the bows and basically it's going to be a situation where it's going to be state media in the country and the media will be forced into exile as already happened with several outlets were you seeing the pressure here me did you did you feel unsafe i didn't feel unsafe personally i think as a foreigner we are privileged in situation and i think it's kind of difficult to complain when we've seen much worse stuff happen to locals who have

a lot more at risk and to the need to carry on living this country and would you know it potentially face exile if this continues i definitely felt that i was being watched we had people walking past making their presence felt just to kind of give us a sense that we were being what was filmed multiplications and that was definitely a stretch to make us feel like we weren't. in a free situation to do what we wanted in that about a minute left i want to ask you leaders of the opposition. they've left the country well research now we've got media coverage that's being stopped immediate looks like. he's not giving image definitely he doesn't see anything in it for him to engage. but i'm not sure it's totally up to him he has become a liability for the russians the optics are just too toxic at the moment they have him where they want him he's being forced to make concessions in the senshi give up by the russians over and see in return for russian support against his own people but i think for me the most going member will thing was the police with all their weapons at their disposal all their massive superiority in terms of power they

would not willing to stand on the streets and protect the regime without the soon as the protestors came and ripped it off they ran away from the protests that they are not willing to show their face and put their face to that regime's i think he has problems brewing for now he might be safe but he definitely. has problems and is going to pay a price for this russian support well we're glad you're safe nic we appreciate your reporting that you come in and tell us about it tonight let the flight was safe tonight is will they calmly thank you jim. well the fact that our correspondent in belarus was forced to leave the country illustrates a sobering truth the free world has not won the free world is still in a fight for survival sadly that includes the united states the world watched the presidential debate on tuesday descend into something that i cannot say on the air i mean the word is cluster followed by a word that rhymes with luck cluster luck if you will and that is supposed to be

american democracy last night the leader of the free world us president refused to denounce white supremacists instead he told them to stand by he can't even say yes when asked will you accept the results of the november election today the german lawmaker andreas nick described the debate as an embarrassment and he said it is disturbing not only for voters in the us but also for the friends and allies of america it's a different story for the free world's rivals today china's main international newspaper an arm of the communist party described the chaos of the debate with unusual glee beijing sees what is happening in washington europeans do as well tonight the atlantic has never seemed so vast america never seemed distant even if joe biden wins the election there is a debate about whether or not he can repair the damage already done however there

is a debate taking place the same cannot be said about american democracy tonight. well the day's almost done the conversation it continues online you'll find us on twitter either ready to be news or you can follow me of brant goff t.v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody.

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and there are many alternatives to. make up your own mind. just made for minds. when is the government going to get the message i'm resigned we're getting a lot of different messages from the felt this is your government afraid of the truth the i've seen you being afraid of the bill we do understand that there are a lot of problems you don't hear a lot about food in europe these days but for more than 2 months garia has been combatants financing corruption and see government demonstrations for 7 years in a row it's on the dubious distinction of being the most corrupt country in the u. my guest this week from sofia is the need for such of a minister of labor and social policy.