back then in the ninety's you know specially it was a terrible decade in that respect i think. and that's how they're still there hasn't changed it's all still the same threat the same level of threats to you to your well being when i was a child i could identify them by wearing black or being skin hats nowadays this kind of disappeared in a way. they kind of. became the same like everyone else and so it's very hard to identify the person who would put in danger. one of the we're i was up i was on your science and i was looking at some of the statements that some of the people were making and one of the statements was. the tweet we want people just. said we want to be seen as an opportunity and i said to myself ok you want to be seen as an opportunity

what does that mean that it isn't seen as an opportunity that it is perhaps even something troubling why is that the case and why is it still the case if it's true it's all yeah yeah i mean it is like the case that and more people in the east and float for at the age of 30 and we have to. turn into for germany poland right when tyson. yes and by the way shouldn't ask why do east germans wrote about b. should why could the a g become popular in this part of germany rance a bit of a question your answer to that question is very very many answers one to me in a nutshell well so one quarter of the east german people have left many academics this is one reason we didn't have the movement of the 1968 in east germany and i think the most important thing is we are missing as strong or this is

a civil society it's not as strong as in west germany so we really really. need this but we also need more people like in the media or we need more and more is german perspectives because there is this fact that east german people don't have that must much trust in the media and in the government and i think this is not surprising they have so many so much hope and and then there were you know there was devaluation and loss and of course a loss. trust and and their perspectives are not seen in the media so we have to change these things and what can we really do ok let's try and keep all of that on board and look to the future a little bit and if you really want to get a feel for how dynamic many parts of the former east germany are becoming then one place that you might go to is the city that gave us the.

leipzig is booming it's among the fastest growing cities in germany. it's buzzing with young creative people it's being called the new berlin its economy has been buoyant. that's real life is like 10 or 15 years ago because there's so much going on and when you're when you're young you want to make things happen i do like to keep cams leipsic has a very active youthful startup scene a lot of old buildings have been renovated and the rents are relatively cheap. major corporations are also well represented porsche b.m.w. and d.h.l. for example. despite the enormous effort to catch up in the eastern states productivity there is still 20 percent lower than in the west that household income is still 12 percent lower polls show that 57 percent of germans say the advantages

of reunification outweigh the disadvantages 15 percent say the opposite where does the future lie in the east or the west. ok that question where does the future lie in the east or the west well i know it's difficult to actually answer that question because i think it lies in both parts but from the east comes definitely a very innovative. let's say energetic kind of movement but i would say at least for the for the younger generation it is a good example i think we will see that in the in this little film places that you know other places are as a desert places like a bit a smaller place like an r. and. drazen is another place which is booming potsdam close job and to actually the former west berlin. some like urban urban areas which i really like on the good on a good way actually towards towards future and of course on the other hand side you have like

a rule rule areas where it's much much more difficult actually where many especially young well educated women left the place and what's left are just rather elder men with less education but this is not true for the city so let's it is a very very good example actually as i grew up there in the eighty's and i studied there in the ninety's i really saw a place which embraced actually this this new time and you know the fall of the wall and everything what came afterwards so it's a very good very good example actually for my 2 from your perspective what can we learn from the east. we can learn from the east that the will to tell your story is definitely there and we have to knowledge that that we as especially because we're talking from west germany from here. that we have to find a way like that to find not only ways but on also to educate people that the east

germany is not the dark part of germany. like forever because we have to find ways to support them to. build infrastructure and ecosystems in which they can flourish and also. your. we want to shape the future that was your statement to the top of the show how. well it's one of the tools one of the goals yeah well as i said people who experienced transformation themselves or through their parents they have a certain skill they can use now and show these people and so for example. is that i. found in association that stuff for basic income and research on that we have people who create co-working spaces and then sky and and so i think this is one big part of the skill of

transformation and also i think well people in east germany they did not inherit much right so a country property was given to the west. germany i need to explain for our audience just briefly. what in the western part of germany there have been huge sums of heritance is being passed from one generation to the next the hasn't been the case and in germany in very many people view it is simply an object really. well 'd but it's also a chance because i don't take it with the company of my parents i have free choice and my parents will also support me because they couldn't do what they want to do in the g.d.r. and that's really a great opportunity and they see really many many. great young people doing very influential things now we are having the digital i think absolutely it can be really very engaging with your take yeah well. to be honest as i

said from east germans i mean the whole germany can learn from the from the east german story how you can adapt to new to new conditions and to a new situation and to challenges that's what the use germans learned and i think they are. most of them i'm still speaking of the rather younger generation much more resilient actually to anything what may happen in the future. and i just wonder you know what we have these are i said earlier we have these sort of our annual celebrations and sometimes it's a case a little bit of sort of going through the motions here in germany talking about you know what was buried then what was that it was a very important juncture in german history and one of the cliches that is often used in that context is that we we all perhaps people in west germany people in east germany have walls you know heads still do you have a woolen you know i wouldn't say so i would say so i'm in i don't i would say for

myself i don't have any walls in my head my parents do definitely but that's as i said when when we talk about east and west german you know about we need to gauge we have to talk about generations this may be another subject for another show but it depends very much on how what you it what you actually experienced yourself and how you how your own life went how your biography was changed so that's really important always to keep in mind we're speaking of 30 years after which is a long time it's more than a generation it's a 100 oxidize it's a long time in a short time at the time but it is it is very decade yeah but the older generation also passes on some experiences also some negative experiences to the next generations tell their story maybe the negative story and reproduce actually all these kind of breaks and wounds and everything what may have happened and over and over some of the trolls yeah well yes but they what has on the straw man which is a problem to the next generation so this is what i'm slightly where reason i hold just here. well i have to disagree on some part because the studies

shall we say share the same values that if you have east german person does that person from the west share your values then 45 percent will say no you are. so there is this construct of east and west i never felt like east german i was. german i felt like an open person or european and i think we really have. stop using this constructs very important point i just watched one more a perspective from mine just tell me you know in a sentence what is your vision for the future of germany and saying what we're talking about that acknowledging that not seeing walls was a privilege and understanding how to use that privilege and our support of the nonprofit that's ok to the point on the german reunification fund sorry much for

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