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tv   World Stories  Deutsche Welle  October 4, 2020 5:45pm-6:00pm CEST

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but they assure us that 99 percent of farmers are registered and everything should be straightened out within a year. you see problems defies the sound is all these displays deforestation slave labor child labor it all comes down to one thing traceability without traceability it's almost or it's all in the shadows we don't know the root of it accountable everyone is hiding as soon as we know who sells life when where and how then all of a sudden we have something that works we can do little people accountable to this child and particularly for this case of slaves wherever they are just the forestation and so we can fix the problem traceability is the key to everything. we also want to explore be areas of ivory coast where cocoa is being grown legally rather than on secret plantations in the classified rain forest. in 2012 ivory coast's government launched its 1st national action plan to crack down
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on child labor its 3rd and latest plan has expanded to include issues such as supply chain traceability and illegal plantations in the classified forests and it's allocated a little over 100000000 euros for the daunting task. may assume works for one of the ngos that implement the program at the local level you're dora said. to get us out of our role is to help children who are in trouble featurette a problem for some of the future children who are being abused who are sent to slave away or cocoa plantations. those are the ones who are here to help also for the 4th year there are they could administer this to or before i work with the ministry of family to raise awareness in these villages about the child exploitation that takes place within cocoa farming this for. kids.
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children in ivory coast often help their parents out in the fields on the weekends that's not illegal kwame is targeting the families who don't even send their children to school. he works for a small n.g.o.s funded by international donors he himself used to work as a buyer for the cocoa cooperatives so he understands why the farmers rely on their children's help. he was rather cool because they help you to pick up the parts that are far right. yes they pick up the pods you need to understand these children shouldn't be doing this work activity. so. if cocoa farming paid well everyone who could afford to send their kids to school that isn't usually when i explain to them that children need to go to school they tell me they'd love that but they simply can't afford it by the way if it were farmers with
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4 or 5 children and no money to put them through school they don't know what else to do or. the only way to put children from a school on a cocoa farm and salary is to make sacrifices elsewhere. mr song who has been working in the cocoa business for 30 years he's very proud of his son who will soon go to college he helps his dad during the school vacations register so you're studying that's right what's something to do for. us but i'm going to start history this year i just graduated from high school and i'll continue my studies at college . say that jewish infuses very difficult that's why it's wonderful that they can manage the 1st installment of the cocoa earnings will only last for 2 months. then there's nothing left.
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next to get louis' little brother he doesn't go to school or school anymore he's dad had to make a choice it was either get or his brother. i don't have enough money like last year we made $700.00 francs a day this year 750 cents a month that's not enough. to disasters and to poor. well you know. give up this got your fingers to the bone we have nothing left to give there's no money my children help me out where they can. t. go to school. not anymore so you know if your dad could afford it would you rather go to school or work or other. were not god you know god knows often are behind the chocolate industry turns over
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more than $100000000000.00 euros a year meanwhile it's estimated that an average cocoa farmer earns less than one euro a day. would raising the price of cocoa beans put an end to child labor. could the solution really be that simple that's a question we wanted to put to the representatives of the chocolate industry. we travel to devils a small town in switzerland that's known for hosting large international business events every 2 years swiss chocolate manufacturer barry cull invites the cocoa industry's leaders to the conference shock of his young since 2012 they've declared
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it a goal to end the abject poverty in cocoa producing countries. very kobo notified us by email that we were not welcome at the event we go along anyway in the hope of meeting some people we can talk to after all they claim to promote transparency. but the hotel security has strict orders. yeah no fear we. let us work is no. no. if you. please sir she told the police. we stay on the sidewalk. minister a question please. since this is a former minister from ghana almost talks to us but is quickly led away we starting
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to become a nuisance so they send us someone to interview as long as we promise to leave afterwards stammers the problem it is there i mean camera is the. problem but that's only double the fact that in principle we're not allowing any additional journalist in the i'm still here to bring the. building to listen let's agree you're going to send me your questions and i'm going to reply to issue is bullshit . the burning question is why is nothing changing back in 2001 the big chocolate makers committed to in child labor that was almost 20 years ago. trade isn't manufacture is set up the lumbee group will cocoa foundation that was supposed to improve conditions but social and environmental simple solutions. are very hard to find for something as complicated as the child labor thought but we both agree that the solution of paying more to
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the growers of those it has not been implemented yet. we are looking at ways to scale up approaches to how farmers can improve their income 18 years of. years to lucan what you going to do in the future and nothing is done nowadays efficiently to stop poverty. i would i wouldn't say that nothing is being done now as i mentioned before we have companies that are committed to paying premiums to farmers to help and then crease their income levels the cocoa business altogether every year is a $100000000000.00 worth and the growers get 6 percent of it i think it's in the what if what i can say is that this is not unusual for commodities if you think of cotton i mean how much does a cotton farmer get compared to how much we pay for a pair of jeans or another article of clothing that is made from cotton so it's this is not something that's specific to cocoa ok so we're meeting in 20 years and
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see what's going on ok every 20 years and. hopefully sooner than that if police sooner than that. the power doesn't. rest soley in the hands of the chocolate makers what about the law makers chocolate is a widely consumed product in europe. so we pay a visit to the european parliament in brussels astoundingly there is no sanction for illegal practices within the cocoa supply chain. heidi how to land an m.e.p. from finland has regular meetings with manufacturers. have you walk into an office. of the workers there are children boys yes there is a tragedy. and we are busy preparing an action plan on what to do with cocoa so that cocoa would not anymore cause the forestation and child labor and what is really very remarkable is that more and
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more companies are saying that we need this mandatory due diligence obligation we need law informant times you would have said that companies are masochistic that they are asking for a lot yes but they have but they want what they call a level playing field because they don't want to be irresponsible and then they see that the irresponsible companies are reaping the profits you know for a cheap price so that's the question because to be responsible may cost a little more and you feel. like well well if i may i would just like to show you an example that of course there is this kind of fancy side of the industry but then there's not a word about these huge human rights issues and environmental issues that are hidden in that supply chain chocolate so i was invited to this reception but i just couldn't go because this is not the honest simple question one of the more i don't
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have a good answer to that everybody who works on the problems of cocoa say that yes you can you can. maybe. you can coming to terms with. the forestation and there is the deep deep question of living wage is i think it's a terrible thing that we can taste these fancy chocolates here in brussels but then see work are in it got people are probably did not even taste it because it's too expensive it's a luxury product out of their reach so leaving ways he said. so simple if they had just a little more money then more of their children could go to school back in ivory coast in the village of troy or to cocoa farmers or investing the little money they make in their children's future they've all chipped in to hire a teacher 200 children attend this class.
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they're about 4 years. hard you are. right when we see children going to the fields we tell their parents to send them to school instead we take kids between the ages of 6 to 9 how do you get paid. i get paid each month. by the parents for the parents they all chip in yes the state doesn't contribute. because the state can't afford to hire teachers in full remote areas like this. that's right. in 2019 ghana and ivory coast joined forces and decided to set the price of cocoa themselves the way opec countries do for oil. exporting countries have
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