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general craig you must resign from the prime minister to gather we have a man and that must be a new with. our constitution as well as free fall off them when i get the protests of basically insist on their demands and they don't they i'm not afraid at all the state of emergency to. a rarely used in all the prohibits violence against the. among activists who crowded around a royal most ok karen queen during a large demonstration on wednesday let's quickly take a listen to what one of them say we were not notified by the police on the upcoming royal montague in which we have you know we know we because they were not in i mean . once we know that ok it was them on the case of the queen in the air for some to patrol we try to bring try to break away from the line. and just might make a phone through to have everyone move away from them from the police very much so
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that is he saying that this situation which is said to be the main cause for declaring a state of emergency was staged. in sudan about disruption of the queen's mothercare truth be. so ready because he's so on that authority particularly the police didn't fall for the arrival of the motorcade which usually is a stand out that is high police in protests that have this guy that could to see to what is shot at that if there is more to care through the protest site that will stop the activity and. by this time it seemed that because they were unaware and suddenly the markets show up and in the all featured the creation of state of emergency by general prayuth by the prime minister the recent me and recent quality enforcement of state of emergency. he was the incident i think about the more they
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can cite at vide a crime is to ask the trick to a national security think that while it is essential to enforce these and rocky and major areas and now he's starting to audit a racist mass a race off of activists involved in the protests it is the 1st time that such a serious charge has been leveled against pro-democracy activists do you think these men can expect a fair trial. in the recent concern that you know high and. legal cases that involve them when nike is straight that we say chrissy tries i'll can hail be high close not always out so ways and by human rights groups by the intentional community and often the police the public prosecutor all even the judges then say oh yeah that. they only have one option that is it would take out the wife in my past will be accused not lawyerly tool but
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when i keep so doubtless a lot i'll trade mission no political limitation on the law enforcement and judiciary so that possible from human rights want to asia thank you very much for joining us i want to. thank you. time now to turn to some of the other stories making news around the world 13 bodies have been recovered from a landslide in central vietnam triggered by torrential rains nearly all of the victims were army officers on a mission to rescue other workers buried in another landslide flooding across the country has killed at least 36 people since last weekend and. u.s. social media platform twitter says it's investigating a global outage the company says it has no evidence of a security breach or a hack uses in many countries reported not being able to use the platform for more
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than an hour. thousands have turned out in guinea's capital to show support for the country's main opposition handed it ahead of sunday's presidential election its. second attempt to unseat president of a condi yellow has denounced khan days decision to run for a 3rd time as unconstitutional. u.s. president and his democratic challenger joe biden been answering questions from voters of separate televised events at the same time on different t.v. channels these town hall meetings as they are known replaced the 2nd presidential debate which was cancelled after trump was diagnosed with coke at 19 and then refused to conduct the debate online as we report the 2 rivals showed they have very different approaches and both style and substance. always confident at times defensive as the incumbent u.s. president donald trump now has a record to pick apart and he got
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a grilling starting out with the nation's biggest crisis a coronavirus. i knew was a big threat at the same time i don't want to panic this country i don't want to go out and say everybody's going to die everybody's got their own over half of you don't have this money in my opinion no no they don't really get it and more contentious exchanges as trump may. exaggerated claims about voter fraud and deflect the criticism over his tax returns and his position on white supremacy into it you've done this everybody see him like i did in the white supremacy he didn't say i supremacy. opposed my position at the same time on a different channel a different tone times challenger joe biden offered a forceful rebuke of trump's pandemic response it was the president's responsibility to lead and he didn't do that he didn't talk about what needed to be done because he kept worrying in my view about the stock market we make up 4
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percent of the world's population we have 20 percent of the world's deaths were 2 situation we have $210.00 plus 1000 people dead and what's he doing nothing he still could not worry mask and so on because at times biden leander did but he did deliver clear punch lines on a number of issues including foreign policy if they will and before the elections are open we've been most effective as a world leader in my humble opinion not just by the exercise of our power most powerful nation in the world but the power of our example that's what's led the rest of the world to follow us calling factor trading blows remotely the 2 candidates will again face off at the final election debate next week about making force earlier we spoke to a washington correspondent all of us all that and asked what stood out most for him in these appearances it seemed like this new form of the town hall works better for joe biden sold trump in turn he made
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a lot of false claims during this conversation. and the host there at the network that broadcast this town hall n.b.c. challenge president trump grilled him essentially over a variety of questions and topics and simply that he did not look good defending himself he did not look good debating it. certain points he didn't want to remember or didn't know the certain details so biden in turn had a rather solid appearance then come across a lot more presidential as someone who is really willing and able also to heal the nation that is very divided right now of course and he was able to deliver his points much better are that work. during the 1st debate that ended in chaos. was other than and for more on this on mojo and paul fact check out your show verba from studios in bonn yourself made some claims about the coronavirus and his appearance last night that start with a clip on that. story as the ministers did with mr i'm ok with this people were
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missed but just the other day they came out with the statement that 85 percent of the people that wear masks catch it so this is a that i am that's what i heard and that's what i saw so that's what he heard so what is he referring to that is that correct. well president trampers again referring to a study of the u.s. center for disease control and prevention the c.d.c. from september he said this before and basically we have to say it's a misinterpretation of the study what it found out was that among those persons who tested positive for the coronavirus 85 percent said that they were bearing a mask always often yes but on the other hand also they found out that those persons who tested negative 89 percent reported they were wearing a mask so the c.d.c. even clarified this on twitter by saying the interpretation that more mosque where us are getting infected compared to non mosques where us is incorrect and in
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addition we have to say the study had a very small sample the results cannot be generalized so however the research is of the c.d.c. said that there are situations in which mass can be worn for example while drinking or eating and we don't know why president trump repeatedly makes this misleading claim about the c.d.c. study and there are so many more studies that prove facemasks are well slowing down the spread of the coronavirus well let's have a look at his opponent mr biden one topic at that town hall meeting was the future of energy here's what he had to say on fracking 1st about. nuclear i do not. approve then you frankly you think you have to make sure that franken is in fact. 1000000 methane or loony in the world or deal you with who we can be. and how they're doing to has to be managed very well number one. is he making any
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claims there can be challenged. this deserves a closer look biden was asked by a voter about his energy policies and how fracking had hurt people and the environment to he seems to be clear here but this is at odds with his own running mates old position vice presidential candidate coming to harris has stated previously that she's in favor of banning fracking she has since reversed her position but joe biden's website said he wishes to ban new permits from being issued for fracking and wants to gradually move away from it so far he emphasizes more the reduction of pollution and the reclaiming of several mines which should come along with new jobs instead of moving on with fracking so this is at least a bit confusing for me at what he actually really really wants here that obvious fact checker yes i've ever thank you. to new zealand now
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a prime minister just. urging voters to give her a strong mandate to tomorrow's general election. praise for over $1000.00 crisis as well as the response to the christ church mosque shootings last year. he is expected to secure a 2nd term but polls suggest it could need support from the green party. for smiles as just are done embarks on her final day of campaigning flanked by security new zealand's prime minister is treated more like an aide listen liberty than a politician admirers line up for selfies with the 40 year old he's managed to maintain her popularity despite being in charge since 2017 what is the purpose of their walkabout is it because you think it will translate to vote or is it because it looks good or it's it's all about making sure that people are reminded to very
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clear that you know gys rather than motivated to hard in 2018 aren't and made global headlines when she gave birth to a baby girl after less than a year in office. but it was her response to last year's attack on a new zealand mosque in which 51 muslim was ship is were killed that won her praise . and we are united in grief at the labor party leader has also won plaudits for her handling of the corona virus pandemic we will close our border to any norn resistance and citizens attempting to travel here combined with the streets locked down deaths from covert 19 have been restricted to 25. but our turn is facing competition from the national parties to disqualify. the former lawyer. there who's
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known for have blunt no nonsense approach doesn't hold back i think it's very difficult to trust pasties with a former us city promise that the decision things and then they don't do those things bob jones government has failed to build tens of thousands of affordable homes as promised economic policies have also been criticized by those in the right but are done is still expected to win a 2nd term she must though no popularity like this probably won't last for ever. you're watching the news still to come on the program bollywood's looks set to get back on its feet after being hobbled by the pandemic but for the thousands of extras and low paid workers in the industry the future may not be so grounds. for 1st to britain where prime minister boris johnson is due to respond to demands put forward by the european union on the 2nd
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day of bragg's it talks in brussels the 2 sides have been haggling over a trade deal to prevent a no deal breaks it at the end of the transition period on january 1st the e.u. has called on the u.k. to give more concessions in the negotiations and has agreed to continue talks until the last possible moment. where our correspondent is at the summit in brussels no progress on a break at this late stage does anybody there think the deal can be salvaged. at least that is what both sides have been saying for weeks and months now that they want a deal now how likely is that going to be all eyes today on london because a deadline that boris johnson set himself for yes the day has already passed away he said a deal needs to be within reach so today michel barnier is meeting his counterpart david frost in london they will have talks the finnish prime minister interesting
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lee guess what they said after talking with all the leaders and barney said he has the necessary flexibility so the flexibility to make compromises in order to reach a deal and it'll be interesting to see how that plays out in london today whether the decisive step can be done what is clear is the e.u. is is or everyone agrees and is on the same page that they are not the ones who leave the negotiating table. europe is also being affected by the corona virus pandemic again right now is anything substantial being done at each level to deal with it or is it every country fighting for itself. and the council conclusion yesterday evening there was talk about continued coordination efforts so far the us already achieved quite a bit they have a mutual map where they recognise the same standards so you have green areas orange areas and red areas it is clear that from green areas you can travel to green areas
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but with less screen areas on the map and mainly orange and red they now have to decide what how they can set the same standards for travel restrictions for instance and that is something that all leaders have said yesterday we need to work on everyone is on the same page here again that to fight the pandemic they need common standards and that is something they want to work out and i want to weekly basis that the e.u. commission president was there from the line have to leave the summit and go into quarantine are people there thinking that holding this summit in person maybe was a bad idea. well look it's not it just goes off on a line it's also the finnish prime minister who did today left the summit because she had been in contact with a member of parliament in finland and she was among those including the danish prime minister who said look we don't always need personal meetings we can do without them the video conferences the works fine on the other hand a number of member states yesterday made clear that in person meetings are crucial
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and if you look at yesterday's dinner where mobile phones and tablets were collected so that people leaders could confidentially talk about bret's it at that is one of those examples where if you want to get stuff done it is really important is what diplomats have told me a number of times now if you want to get stuff done you have to meet in person. because one of the you headquarters in brussels thank you carol. oh u.k. is also trying to combat a large rise in 19 cases london is the latest major city to face tougher measures with a raft of social distancing rules due to come into force at midnight today. queen elizabeth us public engagement since march a red joint to parents between the british monarch and her grandson prince william the duke of cambridge. the 2 are socially distanced but neither is wearing
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a face mosque at this military research facility even though covert 19 is on the rise once again across the united kingdom detectors. london is the latest british city to be told it's about to face a local lockdown on saturday tougher restrictions will include a ban on more than one household meeting indoors. type thing it would think it's a waste of time expecting business ca's i think is kind of the right thing stabilize the numbers that are not in all fairness a wise binondo does not say shambles. earlier this week liverpool became the 1st english city to be put into the highest risk category. pops and was a closed and no one can meet outside their household. this pub renaming itself in protest at the government's decision. manchester or another city
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in northern england desperate not to be next it is wrong to play some of the poorest parts of england in a punishing lockdown without proper support for the people and businesses affected all the order but in westminster ministers on defending their actions we make these decisions with a heavy heart with the sole of steering our nation through troubled waters. things will get worse before they get better. meanwhile schools in northern ireland are to close temporarily as well as pubs and restaurants nothing much to cheer about here . here are some more coronavirus developments around the world to berlin court has overturned nightlife restrictions in the german capital a rule forcing bars and restaurants to close by 11 pm has been suspended for now a new study has found a drug now widely used to treat cope at 19 does not lower the mortality rates of
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patients the new zealanders cannot travel to australia without quarantine in under a new one way travel bubble arrangements for now anyone arriving in new zealand will still be required to quarantine. many movie theaters in india have begun reopening after being forced to close because of the pandemic the country's multi-billion dollar bollywood film industry has welcomed the move as much of his income comes from local cinema screenings. child free reports for the many extras and day laborers the future is anything but surprise. bomb glamorous elaborate song and dance routine. that's how the rest of the world knows. it. but behind the glitzy for such thousands of the leverage workers who form the backbone of the film industry. yet
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they remain anonymous and live at its margins. under she is one of them. thinks he lives in a wondrous flat and is the soon breadwinner in his family of 4. for 35 years under worked as a background on so income closely proving thank you but his work completely dried up as a forward 1000 pounds in may force the film industry to shut down if not before the lockdown i used to get good walk i would get one or 2 songs. i managed to on about 18000 rupees every pound which used to take care of my family's expenses but for the past 6 months or so there's been nothing new to me in the so-called meaning. and there is now finding it difficult to make ends meet and he's far from the only one people who have been hit the hardest are the daily beaters
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who work in various capacities in this industry including as makeup assistant in light of the spot boy group dances and you're the artist most of them are now struggling to find work work is now just beginning to pick up a bit. but only in fits and starts and under strict anti widest measures thanks to budgets have been pared back as the indian film industry dreams from the shut down of movie theaters its biggest source of revenue even and then the shooting just starting now actors especially are requesting for minimal crew so our crew sizes i shrink which of course means those people who were day leverage will end up being the biggest loser in this shift thank you i'm very is increasingly desperate for work and has been reaching out to others in the industry thanks for the it's not like we have the security of
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a permanent job only when we put in work otherwise we get nothing if i do have hope of finding work again the world runs after all thanks having worked all his life in movies which allowed others to dream yeah i heard this story would also have happened. and some sports news american tennis player sam querrey is slaying russia 2 days of the testing positive for the coronavirus others and he just broke open the former wimbledon semifinalist along with his wife and baby son were placed in self isolation by the russian authorities but the family left the family on a private jet to an undisclosed location instead of 10 as organizers have said it's a serious breach of protocol investigating the incident. and then cycling a leading team in the 0 d'italia wants the race to end early because of an increase
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in coronavirus cases among the athletes best pro cycling has called on organizers to end the race this sunday 2 teams have already pulled out after testing positive the sport's governing body the u.c.i. has denied the request. watching t.w. news from berlin that's what's. going. to
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come. to the point to make sure the opinions clear position the international perspective some up. from our say the munich paris to prague corona virus infections are surging in europe with big cities at the front of the waves can new prescriptions bring the situation under control joining us on to the point. to the point that. the next book of g.w. . if you could say getting older is 167
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there are many alternatives to. make up your mind. made for minds. covert 19 is surging once again worldwide and here in europe urban centers are at the forefront of the wave from marsay to munich paris to prague the continent's cities are rushing to impose new rules ranging from prohibitions on parties and closure of bars to curfews and travel bans restrictions on public life still fall short of last spring's lockdown for now as the world waits for a vaccine can the virus be stopped our title coronavirus hotspots are
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europe's cities out of control. in the. uk. and it is a pleasure to introduce our guests starting with martin myer he works as a science editor for the german radio broadcaster dortch man folk and he believes despite scientific progress the pandemic will prevail therefore we will have to get along with further restrictions. and it's a pleasure to introduce richard free he works as a science editor for the berlin daily tug and he says we are only at the beginning of the cold and indoor season and there is a real danger of things getting out of hand in some places. and i'm pleased to welcome our colleague mira because she's a science reporter and editor here at u.w.
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and she's convinced eco is a will to get us through the pandemic. so let me ask you martin may have the pandemic will prevail as you said in your opening statement sounds pretty ominous we have worldwide nearly 5. 40000000 cases now 100000 new infections per day here in europe how worried should we be i think we should be worried i think the next weeks will be very challenging for all of us because what we see is we have a feeling maybe that the situation is in control over the summer fortunately it's not this pandemic did not stop we are in the middle of the 2nd wave the numbers go up some places they explode and that is worrisome. that number i just quoted for europe means it now accounts for about one 3rd of cases worldwide though it certainly doesn't account for that share of the global population so what is the
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reason for this rather dubious distinction and for europe i think we're not quite sure of the moment yet but i think it will take a lot of time so also after the pandemic to analyze what went wrong where where the turning points for certain regions what was the decisive factor i think at the moment it's still a lot of guesswork ing but i mean what we can see is that europe is generally we have a lot of hot spots with a dense population that definitely causes problems but i mean there are other places in the world where the population is equally dense and so maybe they're handling a better than europe so we will have to see if we should favor your opening statement mentions the change of season in summer here in europe for things almost seemed normal and i think perhaps a lot of us got lol to into a sense of false security was this 2nd wave that we're seeing and inevitable result
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of colder weather or would you say that mistakes were made mistakes were made opportunities were not. taken the way they could have been taken like you know i remember in late spring early summer people started to talk about corona in the past tense actually like it's it's disappeared. we had so much of an urge to get back to our normal waves and a lot of opportunities were missed. especially in trying to limit the number of infections as we go into the cold season it's kind of i mean scary is a big word but it i think it's reasonable to call it scary that we already now are seeing this surge in cases we could have done better we could have. gone into the fall season with much less infection it was much but appropriation.
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many people thought that germany was the poster child for handling. and in fact it did significantly better than many of its neighbors dealing with the 1st wave of infection how are things looking now i don't think you have a been the poster child to be honest i think we've been very lucky specially in the beginning because we had more time the virus was spreading in other parts of europe so we had more time to prepare for all measures and then i'd say the german government data a lot of things that they did a good job and a lot of ways i would say in general and some especially the germans themselves they stick to the measures now we see we are tired i think we all are but i personally am as well i want to go back to normal it's not possible but that is really something that it's very stressful so i don't think that we in germany should be in any way proud or prouder than anyone in the rest of the well because
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it's a pandemic the word means we're in this together let's talk a little bit about that stress that martin just mentioned he also mentioned. fact that having information played a big role in the spring and helping germany to respond to quickly and effectively at this point i think many people are beginning to feel overwhelmed by the constant media drumbeat of information of new findings of suggestions and recommendations is there a risk do you think mira that this can backfire and make people perhaps less willing to take action and almost become defeatist i mean we know very well from your signs that we if we bombard people with information with the same information or with also shocking information scary information they will shut down at some point and not take that information as serious as we should and we might have a little bit off that a fact of the moment i think it is also
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a huge problem that we are sometimes not consistent enough with what we expect people to do and what we recommend and i think that this inconsistency can also cause some confusion or this kind of people wanting to now they come up with yet another thing out and come up with yet another thing and trying to listen carefully what people or authorities would command let's take a deeper dive on what it is that we're expecting people to do we are seeing a plethora not only of new numbers but also new rules so let's take a quick virtual trip to see how some of europe's cities are coping and what regulations they're putting into place. hotspot madrid a partial lockdown has been imposed on the spanish capital and surrounding municipalities this affects a good 4000000 people only those who have to go to work or to
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a doctor are allowed to leave madrid is responsible for around one 3rd of corona virus infections in the country so the central government feels justified for issuing the state of emergency maximum alert level in paris cafes and bars are closed strict hygiene rules have been introduced in restaurants alcohol consumption and public spaces is prohibited as are large parties the latest measure is evening curfews and more restrictions may be coming. berlin is counting on a curfew bars restaurants and shops must now shut down between 11 pm and 6 am no more than 5 people are allowed to meet up once and parties are considered to be the prime culprits of a pandemic in humans i actually wanted to celebrate my 20th birthday today and i was really looking forward to it with a curfew it's really a pity that you can't live here as free lay down. the future of the pandemic be decided in big cities. let me ask that question straight on to
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will the battle against be decided in cities and if so why. well i mean we're we see the rise in cases now in the cities that there's a lot of reasons for that people living closer together but also due availability of testing maybe a population that's more conscious of the problem. so certainly we're now seeing a lot of the cases there but it could spread especially. because awareness in the countryside sometimes seems to be not as high so it's a very complex situation and nobody really knows the answers that's also true for what measures work well what measures work best during the lockdowns and spring and early summer
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a lot of measures for taken at the same time so it's really hard to distinguish what what works best where the school clothes decisive where the mass decides that all we know is that everything kind of worked together it might have been some of those measures that didn't contribute much to it but we will. have no other choice than probably going back to some of those things. which in concert were. able to limit the numbers as i said or as you said in the beginning we are facing the cold season we had a big advantage in the spring that weather got better people. could on those restrictions go outside more i mean we are now only in the middle of october and. it's might get worse i want to get all of you to parse the different
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measures in a moment but let's stay with the question of cities just for a 2nd and martin certainly president of france sees cities as decisive yesterday evening on wednesday he ordered a nighttime curfew for paris and 8 other french cities saying this quote we won't be leaving restaurants anymore after 9 pm and we won't be partying with our friends do measures like these and those we saw in that report do they make sense do they strike the right balance would you say well in the end all these measures follow one big idea this idea is to keep people apart keep social distancing and not have big gatherings and of course you can argue what do you do do you have a curfew for pops for restaurants do you do you say that big weddings aren't allowed anymore things like that in france a situation god really worse over the last weeks or the last days especially and i think that's why michael did that i think no politician is happy to step in front
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of his people and say like it's close everything's specially in paris where eating which is such an important thing so it is a balance we has to have to discuss but i think this strike a balance don't meet that in germany right now we have other measures as well that in certain areas the pup's close at 11 i do think that's a good idea but i think we have to just add to that we have to really monitor how people are reacting to these curfews you know when they're end up drinking industries crowding up in the different place instead then we have won nothing here so i think we really have to see how different. you know even cultures react to that because i think there can be a difference some people my response about quite well in my work and in other countries it might not work because people have a different attitude i think we can all forget about that let's talk about a little more about that because your opening statement mentioned hugo wisdom and the importance that people take responsibility essentially not only for themselves but for each other so at the end of the. poor we saw that young man in berlin who
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was disappointed at not being able to celebrate his birthday how can we reach young people because it does seem that young people are increasingly becoming the spreader generation the 20 to 30 year olds i think in particular what do you think is a way to get them not to be egoistic i think we have to make people aware of the consequences of their behavior and i think it is always good to say yeah you might not be so severely in fact that you need to go on you know respiratory device or that you need a intensive care help but you have potentially a lot of. people in your close surrounding that might as well have that problem and you might be responsible for actually killing a person by infecting him i mean i think we have to be that drastic to 2 to make that comparison and i think also we don't we always talk about the elderly right we
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want to all the elderly they're going to die and you know oh your grandmother might get infected but i think it's really important to say the risk group is not the elderly the risk group is also a lot of people with co-morbidities with asthma for example with preexisting conditions exactly there are a lot of young people with asthma as well and i think we've already seen that some people who have lost more and contract the virus and go for covert 19 that they come up come down with really harsh long term effects off this thing us. richard one country that we didn't see in our report but that is quite notable is italy it was at the absolute crest of the 1st wave of covert in europe with disastrous consequences for the health system many of our viewers will remember the pictures of the italian nurses and doctors breaking down now the situation there is looking better than in many other european countries what is italy doing right can
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we learn from that. actually it's very hard to tell you know i think. the experience there the harsh experience was a lesson that they still very much remember their lesson was very decisive for us to take measures and in the spring so i really don't know there is as i said it's very complex chance might be involved as well you know just the structure of the population. maybe people older people taking better care of themselves as before or being taken care of better by their families so it's really really hard to pinpoint one certain one particular thing i think but you've both been very is mr president and also the mayor has berlin who are not exactly on the same.

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