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len will be back at the top of the aa with more so thank you to stacy givens here and so mr misconduct in washington that's it for me i'm told me a lot of thanks for watching. the 1st. shift special this time killer drones combat robots and cyber security in the military to shoot all not to shoot around the world weapon systems are being developed that would let on to crucial intelligence on so this question can we let an algorithm decide of a life and death. the 0 fighters are currently still in use artificial intelligence could soon replace fighter aircraft that require the pilot to manually shoot
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missiles. yes and also for. the 1st big game changer is the fact that we now have pilotless weapon systems that can be controlled from afar so they don't require a pilot to be on board the fighter aircraft as i was. manufacturing their boss tested its 1st unpiloted drones about 2 years ago these drones are a company fighter aircraft from inside the cockpit the pilot can control the swarm of drones sense it's a system designed to take some of the pressure off the pilots and protect them so far humans austin of the center of the decision making process here across the globe militaries are developing weapons systems that see artificial intelligence increasingly replace humans in the art of it there's this new aspect now and that in the future the decision on target selection and combat might be redirected and it would be an algorithm in a computer not a human being making the decision that something new at no point in history has a. ever been the case the decision has always been
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a human one no matter what weapons are used whether it was throwing stones and spears using a crossbow or even dropping by. the us military agency darpa has developed an unmanned ship the sea hunter is equipped with cameras sensors and computers this autonomous robot ship is supposed to detect and pursue enemy submarines so far there are no weapons on board yet the erratic it would be possible in the future artificial intelligence could lead to many other changes a team of american researchers and anti killer robot activists has produced this video to warn of the potential consequences the fictional scenario drones are used to eliminate political opponents with the help of artificial intelligence and facial recognition the drones hunt student activists the drones independently identify their targets and then carry out targeted assassinations. but
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unfair and the can on the technical side and much of this will be possible in the near future. heart of the matter which is also expressed in this video is the fact that these new technologies allow us to an extreme extent to distance ourselves from the act of killing a lot more than long range weapons ever could. a sickly we could just categorize and let algorithms take care of going into action. so it's essentially passing on the act of killing off your computer by the skin think you will drones be used in the future to specifically target and kill people. to frank sala this sort of scenario raises primarily ethical questions i mean it's one very fundamental worry is that a dehumanization of those people that die takes place because nobody has to deal with the fact that they've died on the battlefield. instead of the reduced to mere data and numbers which an anonymous machine works through want to algorithm.
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question. about it at the united nations they've been debating a ban on autonomous weapons for years now so far unsuccessfully resistance to a ban comes from russia the u.s. and china amongst others the debate centers on whether autonomous weapons are reconcilable with international law critics are worried about a new arms race with on forseeable consequences and. as you start to picture it realize that humans are controlling l. about have completely fallen out of the equation and when you have algorithms that make decisions or. decisions on whether or not someone should be attack targeted and if so whether weapons should be here. it's definitely not so farfetched to imagine that these are happening at incredible speed and could escalate even quicker. the systems they start shooting at each other without humans doing it themselves and it might even become impossible to oversee what's happening at the speed at which everything unfold could be just too overwhelming. ethicists saying
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that decisions over life and death cannot be passed on to machines humans need to take on responsibility and be accountable. come back robots can kill but they can also protect human life when fighting terrorists for example these remotely controlled weapons are produced by general robotics in israel. the weapon a glock 269 millimeter caliber the shooter the robot 11 kilograms the shooting range 20 kilometers east of tel aviv israel. of general. robotics is controlling this robot which looks more like a toy it could be a toy considering it's called jogo but this small caterpillar robot is dangerous is being advertised as a lightweight ally in the fight against terrorism and it shoots automatically.
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this is a grouping of turn around so you see that no human can reach disappears we usually when we do competition even with the best shots they cannot reach discussion of groupings and imagine under combat pressure it's even harder. the next challenge targeting balloons on command and then shooting them. in the future dogo is supposed to support infantry troops in action. although it's 2020 today almost all militaries in the world they send humans into very dangerous areas without the humans even knowing what's waiting for them on the other side right now more people are being killed or injured because the special forces don't have time to think because they're under fire dogo is supposed to provide the times of think in an appetizing video the developers present how future antiterrorism operations could become more secure for special forces sent to robots
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how fast they have to look around clear the area and if need be shoot. the whole idea is to have the tell most accurate provide with the all but. to give the special forces an advantage. general robotics is one of the leading manufacturers for remotely controlled weapons one other product a sound the people are portable weapons station that was developed as an anti drone tool amongst other things it can be controlled from a safe distance. like of the system which target they want to track i can cancel the tracking. and i can be activated just by pressing the start. and now this is them is tracking they self. and i decide if i want to continue tracking or if i want to shoot don't go and pit bull use image recognition and
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motion sensors to track their targets technologies that are increasingly being controlled by programs that are self learning and thereby continuously improving in other words artificial intelligence. the university of tel aviv with its department of cyber security. isaac ben israel former air force general and m.p. is an electorate here his knowledge on military theory and security policy has led him to being regarded as one of the leading experts on artificial intelligence. music that. the fish is going to be the most dominant the color of the next 20 years or so in. the. the human mission. weapon systems such as pit bull don't go i've only been made
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possible through more intelligence software faster more accurate control of the weapons through programs means that more jobs can be taken off human hands. there are various different stages of technology one stage of technology is to other to fishtail encourage and to help the your men make a decision for example you can image recognition so the system can suggest to. this person is a probably a. 95 percent because we checked the facial recognition and it matches our database so this will help support the human to make a decision but your question if now this is there more of that beyond 95 percent or if it's 100 percent sure we're illiterate that this isn't by if there's maybe maybe in the future but we do not support that unlike biological and chemical
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weapons using cyber technology is not regulated on an international level and not every manufacturer will take on responsibility for the machines they produce the thought of robots fighting each other one day is not really comforting but history has taught us one thing there's no such thing as a war without human victims. militaries across the globe are preparing for cyber warfare in the german bundeswehr to soldiers are working on ways to ward off cyber attacks which strategies do they employ the center for cyber operations is located near here the computer systems of the bonders we are are being centrally monitored the i.t. networks need to function reliably especially for deployment of brought this role is becoming increasingly important for cyber and information command of the art. he has about as many soldiers as the navy. these cyber troops fight off hackers
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as they just as with industrial networks in the bundeswehr networks are also continually being attacked and the way you usually react as with measures to guarantee security of information that these are different measures that have been as valid as to protect our own networks and sort of whether that really only defending their own networks all of those are actively attacking foreign networks the german government remained silent on this issue but in 2019 a strategic paper was leaked to the public it stated that there are plans to react with hack attacks in case of a severe attack hack backs are basically retaliations against attackers computer infrastructure in the most extreme cases some others are supposed to be hacked and disabled we try digging a bit deeper with khan on christan pavlik who had to sign all the aeration so he does not want to reveal any concrete targets but he emphasizes the potential need to be able to actively engage in cyber combat he would have
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a few are going to spare has the skills necessary to the back end of the war network's. data to grab analyze and to influence networks and change data that's available but is to terrence even effective in cyberspace. actually to internalise in cyberspace is generally quite difficult on deterrence as based on being able to assess and analyze the opponent skills in cyberspace however you're very concerned with staying anonymous account not revealing anything about your skills as soon as their skills in cyberspace are revealed then you can start preparing specifically for those types of attacks insisted deterrence is controversial often times it's not clear who's attacked whom and who to target one of the reasons why germany is specifically interested in defensive cyber security and having rigid and spangle itc's to use.
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the boy. this is live from the u.s. president donald trump and democratic candidate joe biden have clashed in a final t.v. debate in a much more civil exchange trump still went on the attack to attack his challenger with unfounded accusations. make money from china. i don't make money from the ukraine. i don't make money from russia you make $3.00 and a half $1000000.00 and your son gave you. 2 weeks to go before election day of a sparring match between the 2 candidates covered
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a wide range of topics from the pandemic to race relations but who came out on top . but i'm told me already well welcome to the program u.s. president donald trump and his democratic challenger joe biden have traded blows in a final t.v. debate in nashville tennessee with less than 2 weeks to go before election day the exchange was a lot more civil. but 1st debate between the 2 men microphones were muted to stop the candidates from interrupting each other and president trump seemed to adopt a more restrained tone biden renewed his criticism of the president's handling of the coronavirus pandemic while trump said little on actual policies deflecting any criticism and instead of leveling unfounded accusations of biden and his family sure or. let's get some analysis now from our u.s.
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election team so many of us going to is still with me from washington and stacy bourbons is here in studio stay see a very different atmosphere from the 1st debate which candidate do you think came up on top well that 1st debate was a hot mess so this was a much appreciated departure the bar was probably a little low because that 1st debate was so horrible but overall i think that both camps were able to succeed in what they wanted to do president donald trump wanted to try to make himself seem like he's on top of the pandemic his base will probably agree with him and biden was trying to push and say look this guy is bad for the country and he was horrible on the pandemic this was something that donald trump though needed because he's behind in the national polls he's behind in some swing states that he won he's tied in florida which usually always goes red and he needs
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that because his path to the white house getting 270 electoral votes is tighter and biden's so he really needed something special i don't think he got that tonight so me what were your impressions from this debate. well it was actually really a debate finally you know we got to actually get through all of the topics that the moderator had laid out and had gathered questions on and it served the american people far more than the hot mess that stacey mentioned of the 1st debate i think that we saw a president that was for change from the 1st debate as well he was former strain more disciplined former courteous as well to the moderator he didn't interrupt nearly as much in fact of course the mice were muted so interrupting didn't really get to take place in the 1st place but that being said president from took a different approach as he was coached to do by republican strategists earlier this week and i think that was effective because it actually gave all of us the
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opportunity to listen to where the both of these men stand on many of the issues the reality is that there were a lot of unfounded claims made particularly by president also some unfounded claims by former vice president joe biden as well so the fact checkers have quite a lot of work ahead of them and combing through all of what was said if we look at what president of trump decided to focus on he really went after joe biden on what he saw as his failed record so the 8 years where he was vice president 47 years as a lawmaker that he continues to make plans or a promise things that he hasn't actually delivered on when he had the opportunity to do so and he also really attacked joe biden on what he sees as a far more liberal left wing part of the democratic party that will push him to take more liberal positions and the joe biden there said very clearly you have you are miss misinformed there you are running against joe biden not against these other democrats and joe biden really was focused on pointing out that president trump as he sees it has been a reckless dangerous leader who only cares about the bottom line and not about
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average working families who are struggling right now so as stacy said i think both of men really got to deliver the points that they wanted to and that was a 4 more civil debate that everyone could watch but i agree with stacey that it's hard to imagine that either candidate here really came out on top in a way that could swing the outcome of this election. right now the corona virus took center stage during this debate with about one 3rd of the 90 minutes given over to the pandemic so let's take a listen to one of the exchange exchanges he says. you know we're learning to live with people learning to die with it you folks who have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning that man or wife going to bed tonight or reaching over to try to touch their out of habit where their wife or husband was is gone learning to live with it c'mon we're dying with because he's never said he said he's dangerous when's the last time is it really dangerous still we dangerous you tell
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the people is dangerous now what should they do about the danger and you say i take no responsibility when you talk about your t.v. i take very i take full responsibility it's not my fault that he came here it's china's fault and you know what it's not joe's fault that he came here either it's china's fault the fact is that when we knew it was coming when it hit what happened what to the president said he said don't worry it's going to go away be gone by easter don't worry quorum weather don't worry maybe inject belief he said he was kidding when he said that a lot of people thought it was serious a whole range of things the president said even today he thinks we are in control we're about to lose 200000 more people. president look perhaps just to finish this i was kidding on that but just to finish this one closed he said i shouldn't have closed and that went on for months at one eye closed he said this is a terrible thing it is then a phobic i think he called me
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a racist even and because i was closing it to china now he says i should have closed it earlier it just it doesn't i didn't say either of the ocean certainly. i talked about design a phobia in a different context it wasn't about closing the border to chinese coming to the united states are that exchange there from the 2 candidates back to me in a washington dead trump put up a successful defense of his leadership during the pandemic. well i just want to point out one thing that he said there's an interesting combination of phrases he said i take responsibility it is china's fault that really also displays how the president feels about this pandemic and to be fair he says clearly you know i did not bring this pandemic to this country joe biden didn't either that being said he deflected a lot of the attention that was put by joe biden on his mismanagement of the pen to make as joe biden says it very early on in downplaying the severity of the virus
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and what president trump said coming out of the gate right at the beginning that he said 2200000 people were expected to die we will fight it it came from china i'm not sure that that was the most effective defense to say you know for more people were projected to die we have reduced the number of deaths well more than 220000 americans have already died and more are still dying the infection rates are still going up for well over 8000000 now in the u.s. so i'm not sure that that was the most effective defense for the president he was also very clear about the fact that this was a worldwide problem that the u.s. is not alone in facing this and that there has to be a way to not close down a society has not come to close down businesses because businesses are suffering quite badly and there is where joe biden said very clearly we have to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time so deal with this virus but also be able to run our societies and keep businesses open and president trump there again try to keep trying to deflect some of the attention that joe biden was shining on his handling of the pandemic particularly in those early months when another key topic
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closure in this debate was racism in the u.s. let's take a listen. refractor the matter is there is institutional racism america and we have always said we've never lived up to it we hold these truths to be self-evident all men are women are created equal or guesswork we have never ever lived up to put we've always constantly been moving the little further and further to inclusion not exclusion this is the 1st president to come along and says that's the end nobody has done more for the black community than the. and if you look with the exception of abraham lincoln possible exception but the exception of abraham lincoln nobody has done what i've done i've got criminal justice reform done in prison reform an opportunity zones i took care of black colleges and universities i don't know what to say they can say anything i mean they can say anything it's
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a very it's makes me sad because i am i am the least racist person i can't even see the audience because it's so dark but i don't care who's in the audience i'm the least racist person in this room claims of being the least racist references to abraham lincoln so you see what you make of that exchange on racism as a whole i think that president donald trump's response is extremely problematic number one do a basic google search or open a book lyndon b. johnson signed off on the civil rights act and voting rights act that's a pretty big deal and number 2 donald trump called black lives matter a symbol of hate and he said that he thought this because of the video some video that he saw earlier but he never later said that he no longer felt this way furthermore he's been tweeting whites the premises propaganda and but he never reached out to as the president people in the black community civil rights people black life matters people teachers yes he released 3000 prisoners but that's not
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reform. and so he needs. to do more he needs to do a better job of explaining it but he's not going to because he feels like he's done enough i think that. vice president biden talking about acknowledging the fact that there is institutional racism i think that that's a big deal for a lot of people who know that this is a fact and for the thousands of people that marched for months after george floyd was killed. and i think that because he is a politician running for president who said this out loud that it might encourage some black people to vote for him even the ones that are not excited about his candidacy because they feel like well maybe this time we'll see some change soon both candidates covered lots of topics did we get a clear sense of the different policy visions. you
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know i think we got a clear sense that they are very different people and have very different characters you know when it came to some policy points it did come a little off the rails especially when it got to the he said she said things were pointing over who is received what money from which countries and we got lost a little in the details there a little bit but i think what we really did see is that these 2 men are gulfs apart on some of the key issues that voters care about from coburg 19 where president trump said again you know we're rounding the corner and joe biden pointed out the fact that a 1000 people are dying a day in the u.s. and there are 70000 new cases a day over to our climate change where we heard from president trump that. windmills and wind power are problematic because as he said they kill all birds and joe biden there made a very clear commitment to renewable energy as a source for the future and really also on leadership you know that was one of the last questions of the debate or the last question and there again president trump
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was very clear my record speaks for itself i have done so much for the american people and joe biden there his message again saying i will return a sense of decency to the white house i will return again that decorum you can trust me in the white house so yes we did get to look at a number of policy issues but i don't think there was enough overlap that we could really tell where the daylight is between them because there is so much daylight they really don't overlap very much on many of these issues i think one point where we did see a bit more of a real policy back and forth is on foreign policy on how joe biden would approach iran and russia and china in there somewhere a point where president can point to his last 4 years in particular and how he says he's really talked tough to these countries but there is well i think a stark contrast in how these 2 men view america's role in the world and stacey just around briefly do you think voters would have seen this exchange and made up
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their minds based on what they saw not based on tonight i don't. i think most of the votes are baked and people know who they're going to vote for i think that people may have gotten a better idea if they're going to go out to the polls of say for example if you were think about voting for donald trump and you listen to this and you think ok. vote for this man. we'll see but i think the votes are baked in and that this move anything either way i think that president. need to have a stronger performance and it ok sue me and in washington. studio thank you both now here is a reminder of the top stories we're following for you. u.s. president donald trump and his democratic challenger joe biden of trying to blow in a final t.v. debate before the upcoming presidential election which had the microphones to stop the candidates from interrupting each other president. strange. criticism of the
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