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is that many more who will migrate to brood. the number of guatemalan migrants registered at the southwest u.s. border has quintupled in the past 3 years. is an old fool who writes about security policy on climate change he's been observing developments at the u.s. mexican border for years. if you go along the 2000 us mexico border there's about 650 miles of either walls or barriers of some sort there's all kinds of technologies billions and billions of dollars and technologies from high tech cameras cameras that can see 7 miles away radar systems drones there's a fleet of approximately 10 drones there's other things that you see and u.s. military operations there's been a lot of this kind of transfers from conflict zones abroad to here. now the united
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states has a new conflict zone on its own doorstep it's a crisis that the u.s. and other industrial nations have helped to create. there $700.00 times more carbon emissions from the united states so it's $900.00 than that in guatemala. el salvador and honduras combined 700 times more yet this is like this the this is a country that's that's that's fortifying of the borders from people who are obviously impacted by those sorts of excessive amounts of emissions and and i think how could that be possible i mean we've known about the science for so many years and we have more than ever before but the same time there's more the border walls than ever before to you like it's like this emphasis like this is kind of adaptation plan right for the richer countries.
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when does he the ramos arrived in arizona 80 years ago there was no reception center for migrants. but he still waiting for a permanent residence permit. to go see him the always feel like a guatemalan. i don't feel american because that's where i come from and i'll only be here for a while for sponsors yeah i don't have a green card yet but what can i do no matter what i'll always be quite i'm all in it. c c c c
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doesn't it has a work permit that has to be renewed every 2 years even if you were to be expelled what he's achieved here is something that many back home can only dream of and he earns enough to help support his family in guatemala. he grew up there his parents farm as one of 9 children. discourses. i didn't enjoy my childhood all that much. but it was an ordinary childhood. we grew up working. my brothers worked with my father at my sister's with my mother. then i started to look for a way to earn a living and how i could continue my studies. so i got a job in a workshop. here in the us he works as a freelance gardener. his mother. it's very
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different from guatemala is a lot of growers in the hot season as they move in though there's hardly any water this. arizona has a desert climate and a severe lack of water life here is only possible thanks to water pipe from a far away colorado river. but the cities of phoenix and tucson still use the resource wastefully. they counted among the least sustainable cities in the world. hundreds of thousands of liters of water go into keeping golf courses in the desert green. it's a different life here in that they have more ways of treating the water and we don't
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have that in guatemala and i can't judge if that's fair or unfair things are more advanced air i mean when you look at their houses they're not wasting water or using it for their plants and since they have money they can pay for as much water as they want. does he says someday he'd like to live like his clients in his own house with a god and. to achieve that goal he works 6 days a week. just to. the bank and let you. thank somebody how you say how we thank you.
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up to that. on sundays likes to drive out into the desert the hills remind him of home. he'd like to go back to guatemala someday to see his family but without a green card he wouldn't be able to reenter the us. who thought that is this it makes me sad is that it's tough to be separated from your. i know that i mean it's there over there and only i'm here. but what can you do for them so set us down the we're separated out not because we want to be but because we are forced to be by necessity. over there you can't make ends meet but about us and.
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let. her live. and not to mold. and. love 2. oh where. i'm. down on that i live here as long as this world remains a building a long gone one remaining in a long gun. and. my. conditions in the ocean a changing of the fisherman a catching less unless they can hardly on a profit nowadays. almost every family has at least one member who's left been long
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gone. and i mean my beloved leaving here they come to work overseas or in and out of that the most i may need. to. meet this i mean for me as far as i can tell the delta level here and been a long gun will continue to rise. we'll continue to build it up to reclaim our beloved neighborhood. the people have been a long gone but this place vanished beneath the why it was move on and. not everyone here believes that the community can be saved.
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every day just neighbor melody finds her house flooded. not in a month saying bungled i mean my dream of settling in another place not here but my husband jay is from him and he doesn't want to leave i want to reach a friend of mine and find out about us again but jay comes from here and he won't leave this place in the shadow is the. one. who knows that i. still have a little. gun to do you make somebody. sit by you.
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he's done uncle ma $300.00 sites all under. man and i don't know how they got. what they are. all. more or less yeah. there you go. i love ya i know. that you really don't want you to see anything that you didn't know and. the one that the reason you. really. if you. have a i know what i'm gonna be replanted i'm not a conscience. i wouldn't for example get warnings on the radio and on the television. when a strong time food is approaching and we start tying down the roofs. though not
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that i need to tie them down so they won't be blown away by their will. and we usually buy supplies before the storm so that we have something to eat because 6 when i got it while the storm sweeps through the village on the last. buggy oh. they do that. from typhoons to storms extreme weather has grown more frequent in recent years scientists still don't know to what extent this rise is connected to human induced climate change. any place you look at that supposedly a victim of climate change no there are a victim of lack of freedom they have very little capability and so yeah everything sucks including the climate sucks but not to put more c o 2 in it is just because life sucks when you're a human being on
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a difficult planet with very low capability so for example if you look at the us we have every form of climate imaginable we have a polar climate in alaska we have like swampy florida of all the way of california where i live which i think is the nicest climate but we all have life expectancies over 75 why because when human beings are sufficiently capable they can adapt to and even master any climate versus when they have very low capability when they're in primitive and poor societies they can't deal with anything so i think one of the big things that's misplaced in the climate discussion. there's not enough focus on how do we increase human capability. i mean energy for wassup for which means i try to help people think more clearly about energy and environmental issues. except stein is widely known as a climate change skeptic at least 13 percent of americans share his views on global
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warming a higher proportion than in any other western country epstein advises the oil companies on how to sell their products better also using climate denial arguments people have a very deep seated fear of changing our environment and i think that causes that when when we change our environment through fossil fuels through say having a warming influence on climate i think people tend to exaggerate and get overly fearful versus looking at it proportion. since the 19th century the u.s. has burned more comb oil and natural gas than any other country the current administration has refused to take responsibility for that and in 2019 officially gave notice that the u.s. is withdrawing from the paris climate agreement. that's bad news for the countries in the global south bed already the ones most affected by climate change and least
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able to deal with the impact. i think it's been great for us to have a lot of energy but also it's been amazingly positive for the poorer parts of the world that we've used all this energy so what's happened is we have been spending decades and decades and decades thinking about how to improve life including things like medical discoveries that have then been shared in large part with the poor parts of the world so there's a certain area of that a we've made people's lives worse but no the wealthy world has made in so far as they've created all of this innovation has made everyone's lives. better so i don't think we should feel guilty about it and i think we should be very proud i think that humanity there are a lot of problems but we life has never been better and earth has never been a better place to live and i think most people if they think about it one agree i don't think they would want to go back to 50 years ago or 100 years ago.
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in the arizona desert scientists at the biosphere 2 experimental station are trying to find out how to model and perhaps save the earth's major ecosystems. the biosphere started out as the world's largest ecological experiment ever conducted with a closed our controlled environment to try to replicate earth systems and to better understand that. the earth is truly unique and we know that that uniqueness is what allows us to live and survive and if those conditions change so much so it could definitely threaten or it will threaten our survival and so i think understanding what those potential implications are before they actually play
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out are crucial. the research center houses 7 model ecosystems it's a unique place where on the close to real wild conditions it's possible to test how natural systems will respond to extreme environmental change the researches can control the climate and measure how the ecosystem reacts. in the model rain forest an international team of scientists studying what happens when there's less rain. but and i'm ologist that's been the unique thing is that in the biosphere we can control the entire forest and we can decide when it will rain and how much like mad and if we're measuring how the tropical rain forest responds when it's still in its normal state as well and then we're going to initiate
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a long drought and see how the ecosystem behaves as it was esteems if i had it. so hard once it gets dry at the rate of photosynthesis goes down we want to know at what point a system like this reaches its limits seem all. it's important to know what will happen in the world's forests in the future. treaties store c o 2 the climate gas that causes this atmospheric warming which arises from the combustion of fossil substances and on us take it up during photosynthesis one of it 5 c.m.'s that's what we see around the world is that up to 30 percent of the emissions that we put into the atmosphere can be taken up again by forests but a so they act as a huge buffer that helps mitigate the climate effect without them it would be much worse you should among scientists 1st warned about global warming decades ago but
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it took years for the message to even begin to sink him. today it's apparent that the climate is changing faster than scientists have predicted. but at the end of the day we're all inhabitants of earth and so what happens here in the u.s. or what happens in europe or asia at some point is going to impact all of us so i think it behooves all of us. recognize that we are seeing. those changes packs. on resources and we are depending. and so. potentially.
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seeking help to defy the extreme weather potatoes on her livelihood now she's lost not only a large part of the harvest but has too few seeds for planting next year a seed bank helps farmers like. when. they are. a lover here and is thought that in the lead up ways. here. you know what. are you going up or you know as i say you 53 domestic potato varieties grow in the fields here the seed bank gives this in return she'll have to give up some of her next harvest.
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yeah. a farming cooperative collects and stores seeds from local crops that way local growers can obtain seeds if need be so when the next drought hits they're less likely to have to give up their farms and leave. in some villages here half the population has already gone. to the us. who knew. the rest the most fun cosmos ghost neighbors is what the owners of these are not your pipe houses are called they live in the u.s. but send money home to build their american style dream houses for when they return to. the cemetery and told our son. also has tales of
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migration to tell. american flags decorate the graves of those who died as immigrants in the u.s. . in the in the. when her husband left 3 years ago he made that decision together. they knew they wouldn't see each other again for many years. i knew that he's far from home and we're a long distance apart. but i also know that we did it because things are very hard here with. surveyed from
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a to let that the and i know in my heart that this distance will not ruin our relationship. the year i know my husband will come back up but i've just. got to leave. it to. you to. scientists agree that climate change can no longer be stopped but its magnitude will depend on whether people are prepared to radically alter their lifestyles. as i drive myself right and i see all the cars that are going back and forth and 3 lanes of traffic 4 lanes of traffic and i think that as a person that's aware of the kind of crime a crisis and i and you think oh is there any progress being made and all you have
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to do is go out on the main avenues and thank you know like i don't know if i turn on the television i don't know how many times i'm told to buy a car i'm buying you know i want to and there's a climate crisis right then and then other hand i've always been told been told by the new car new car new car. i mean as you look around the world it's all adding up it's the stresses put on upon people are getting worse and worse. i think what the world needs to be looking at is we're going to have people on the move right this is there something set in motion that cannot be stopped like there's going to be places that can no longer be lived in and now this idea of a border bordered world is an idea of exclusion where certain people have access and others do not and and we have to instead start thinking of or old of where
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there's going to be a lot of people on the move and how can we how can we begin to understand that and maybe make it probably make or begin to at least forge a sort of new world where for those people will be more welcome. resetting and i'm going to give people my sometimes dream of the flood the deluge. because of people stopping this because they didn't also called sloan's the home won't. really get i'm going to promise that he would not do the same thing again and. better not to look at what's happening now to toppling slavery in different places and i think it's the same scenario all over again i love. going to but it's not you know. joe joe might soon find himself a climate migrants if sea levels keep rising not just his home but the entire
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island district could be submerged. how long that might take nobody knows. the cool legal stuff they. have to learn because happening with. a special kind of generations. i pity those children who grow up without experiencing the beauty of this might. mean that in a lot of about in about. but i know if we continue almost obscene and i won't be able to do anything about climate change. in the highlands of quantum allah the descendants of the maya believe that the
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global climate is out of kilter because humans have lost their respect form of a. planet. is that they and i depends on us and. i'll save if we conserve water and care for the tree will have a chance of surviving. but if we continue like we're doing now and cut down the trace the future for our children will be very hard to feel bad side of the truss i can call thank god we still have water and trees and can survive and laugh at but if we continue to destroy nature and fear there until and in the future people will have nothing left of trying to eat or. to mean fancy.
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he's past his silence in the. brags it is threatening friends and language his family business like many english sheep farmers here business depends on european explorers without a free trade agreement with the e.u. that could soon be over just like the future of farmers in their street only time used to turn. some goods on your. 30 minutes on
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w. how's your view of the world. where i come from but all of that glitters is gold it's just like this chinese food doesn't matter where i am is it always reminds me of home after decades of living in germany chinese food is one of the things i miss the most but that taking a step back i see things a little bit differently in our. brain of fluids a process undergoing a show that exists as a part of the board haven't been at an immensity in china that's for you a lot of chinese people want to know it if their foot is safe but if you don't have the right to another culture that is this is their job a job that of them how i see it as a deficit why i left my job because i tried to do it exactly it is an hour a day by name of the uninsured and i work at it up you.
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