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hit a country in turmoil. a president who provokes and divides. driven into a corner by protests and a pandemic. donald trump is fighting tooth and nail for a 2nd term. with the election fast approaching america continues to be shaken by the coronavirus and a debate about racism. will meet people in 3 states that could decide the election arizona michigan wisconsin. after everything that's happened well they still go for trump. i. i donald trump on the campaign trail

fighting for votes and arizona i last time around he won this important state by a very narrow margin i. prefer to listen to the president from outside the rally phoenix has become a coronavirus hotspot it tearing down statues district creating monuments and purging dissenters it's not the behavior of the peaceful political movement it's the behavior of. the tele terriers and tyrants and people that don't love our country they don't love our country. the bells often tune out when they hear trump's course rhetoric. what they care about is his economic record i think he's so pro-business he understands business as a business as business owners we want somebody that kind of understands our issues for coping there we were writing it off for examiner so i mean we're doing well you

know i we had high hopes for you know reelection and i mean it's it's crazy how kobe has just changed. america it's changed the world but i really think that if he got in and was elected for another 4 years that the things that he said at the beginning i think would come to fruition. it's fairly quiet outside the rally in contrast to the last drop of an dodi and steve attended in february. could it be the heat. or the fact that the president has taken some hits in the polls. there doesn't seem to be as much energy in the crowd or even in his voice we were outside we can't see him but it just doesn't feel as energetic on the things tired or the masses are as it's you know large so he draws energy from the crowd i don't know but it just seems a little bit more so. duty and steve bell have always been steadfast republicans

they plan to vote for trump in the. across the country pastor gray lewis says venturing back into his church for the 1st time in months. milwaukee is home to the largest black congregation in wisconsin and otherwise largely white rural state. lewis is grateful in march the preacher was in intensive care. coronavirus brought him close to death the virus has killed 4 of his friends in milwaukee just like elsewhere black people have been more affected by covert 19 than white people. god is real and saved my life because i should have been you know i heard all proud of other issue on top of the corona you know what my

belief is that god is. the pastor hasn't fully recovered yet this is his 1st service since being seriously ill in any case churches in wisconsin had to stay closed for months. after such a long time away pastor lewis wants to use his sermon to preach about pervasive racism. he says the killing of george floyd caused many to wake up. who. were very relieved. oh. my. by. then. pastor lewis his ministry doesn't stop at the church door. he's been fighting

against the discrimination faced by milwaukee's black population for years. he now hopes they could be on the verge of meaningful change. just because there's a lot doesn't make things right so because surgery was a long. but it was a right so so we just have a lot of work to do we have to start to do that work right now where the people are protesting in the streets before we go back to our old ways and being quite gruesome. and bitter and hateful. the brutal killing of george floyd shook the nation yet again raising an uncomfortable truth black americans are much more at risk of dying from police violence they make up 13 percent of the population but 23 percent of those killed

by police statistics the president prefers not to use and so are white people so no white people what a terrible question to ask so white people more white people by the way more white people black americans are much less likely to own their own home and can become homeless more quickly. and regardless of education they almost always earn considerably less than white americans. in arizona the lockdown is over restaurants and stores are open despite rising corona virus infections. stephen dodie bell's business selling promotional items is buzzing again like finally there are new inquiries and orders. in the 1st week after the lock down the phone didn't even rain. demand had completely collapsed it just happened so fast i knew that that economy would come back

i just thought that it would come back quicker and now here we are almost in july and now we have the resurgence of cases and i think it's it is a setback. one of their regular customers wants a bulk order of t. shirts $10000.00 worth. but duty is still cautious about the recovery. as the pandemic struck the economy the trumpet ministration turned to stimulus to soften the blow at the end of july the state had provided financial aid worth $2.00 trillion dollars many are calling for more the checks for up to $1200.00 that most americans received have long been spent the economic collapse was the worst in 75 years of fact trump ignores but we're going to go up. people are going to say. it's guy's doing

a good job he knows what he's doing and i don't believe the fake news but next year and i said it before it will be the single greatest economically we've ever had. the bells have received the equivalent of 51000 euros from the state. we haven't had to dip into our own pockets to pay for our employees i mean i still responsible for them i don't want to let them go live to employees that have been with us almost 20 years i just can't do that so it's helped keep us afloat. she can understand trump's desire to lift pandemic restrictions. has he made all the right decisions probably has he made some good decisions yes but no matter what president was sitting in the office you know. i just don't know how you can judge something that we've never called her before. steve has

another preoccupation with us through his friendship with one of his poker buddies who's black he's come to see how much racism affects the daily lives of black americans. a friend of mine just sent me a thing over the weekend about trump supporting. white supremacy so i don't know if you saw all that. and basically trump. said that was a good thing on his tweet. i think he's going to be like. i think he's killing himself right now personally i think he's if he would learn to shut up . he might have a chance to right now i think and maybe know that the democratic candidate mr biden . has a much better shot. before the boxes are even packed a grim news alert record new corona virus infections ours and restaurants will have

to close again so that kind of changes things again i clear talking about every day is a new day everything changes just when you think that you're getting some traction . or not you're. damn covert. katie pontifex has to face the virus every day. in her home state of michigan the pandemic has been to some extent under control but numbers are rising again. she has no sympathy for those who don't want to follow the rules anymore even though she herself longs for the time before corona i want to go back to my life the way it was and i think that it's hard to swallow that our lives will be different moving forward until there's

a vaccine. time and again katie has had to witness patients losing their fight against cope at 19. the nurse hopes that those in washington d.c. won't take the danger more seriously. most of us don't go into this career for anything sort of calling want to care for people so we don't feel like heroes we're just showing up and do our job. you know we take care of people on the best times of their lives and our worst and this was how different the simple facemask has become the symbol of a divided country with trump himself stirring up the dispute many republicans refuse to wear them while democrats are in favor of them and trump's message everything's under control every one of these doctors said you know so much about this maybe i have a natural ability a baby or should have done that instead of. the economic collapse caused by the

pandemic seems to be a personal affront to trump his 1st appearance in a mask was only in july. he then called mass wearing patriotic. it will probably unfortunately get worse before it gets better so i think i don't like saying things but that's the way it is. hindsight is 2020 meanwhile more and more american. dying. the number of coronavirus deaths continues to rise seemingly unchecked unlike in germany for example. the u.s. is handling of the pandemic put it on the level of a developing country because katie's hospital took early precautions she and her colleagues feel well equipped just very sure this in their. words she was here she's been tested positive for unrelated she says she's just starting to get a cough rather than that she hasn't really had any of the symptoms of. the times

they have praise for michigan's governor in part because she asked nurses like katie for their advice. the state shutdown early on which drew sharp criticism from president trump. katie didn't like that at all. trump encouraged the governor's opponents who even blocked access to the hospital. i wish people would trust health care workers but there i have run into colleagues around the country that i went to school with who are on the other side of this and they too think that this is just like the flu and you know what that's not what we're seeing and we ate so even those of us who are educated in the sciences are are struggling at times. a new residential area on the outskirts of lansing michigan capital many here have been economically better off in recent years katie her 2 daughters and husband matt have just moved into their new home.

matt doesn't mind some of the administration's economic policies but he thinks its social responsibility is lacking and it has nothing to do with socialism the republicans favorite bogeyman. as a society we need to be making longer term decisions how do we buy and improve health care and insurance coverage and making sure everyone's taken care of that's not an easy fix and as much as we'd like to get the one second sound bite that says i have the solution and that it takes people coming together i can't i can't even watch videos if i need it and i read the subtitles because i think. it puts me in a bad place to just even hear his voice some days and. i don't ever want to think that of any any any given person even. though there are

a modern family katie does shift work matt takes on a large share of the childcare and housework it's not as though they long for more government regulations their freedom loving americans but the country under donald trump is no longer an america they recognize i and parent we opposed to any policies that indicate that one group is below another that's just doesn't work with the family values that we have we know ourselves with any one party we know that our our you know our beliefs and. and morals and things like that line up a little bit more direct with one party versus the other but you know we look at the candidates issues and and vote along those lines up until. it was a this primary election or maybe it was last year we never voted a straight party ticket before and this year we well. one reason katie and matt

plan to vote democratic is their daughters. they want eva and emerson to grow up to be strong self-confident women with equal rights. i just think it'd be nice to have a change because we've only had males president for a long long time and it be nice to just have at least one it's a woman's. as president for men that's who teaches at a university and katie a nurse 4 more years of donald trump are unimaginable the country can't handle more division 5. no i never would have been the gin something like that and. probably my wildest dreams ok maybe my wife has made it honestly at times feels like we're living and i'm in a bad. back in phoenix trump supporter dodi belle is spending the day with her

grandson. it's a chance to take a breath and forget the stresses of work. the bills had actually planned to sell their business this year to step back and focus more on their family. but then came the pandemic. i mean i have hope i have i know that this is going to be over soon we're going to have our highs on our lows with a cow i can see that but right now i think it's just making me weary and tired you know i'm tired of talking about it i i i feel for those that keep getting set i just feel that weight. steep clears his head by exercising before coronavirus he was sure that america was on the right track. now everything has changed my life was good could be at stake. if we

can get our business back to 100 percent at least close there's a real possibility we could lose our business. he worked hard for his dream after a childhood spent in poverty. when we were out of food we ate what was in the house and i remember one evening for dinner it was like the 3rd night in a row we were having him cakes and. i can remember. going into the kitchen smelling the pancakes and throwing up because i couldn't do another night of pancakes but that's all we had. i have always had the mindset that if i want it i've got to work for it and i started working when i was in junior high and there's this mindset within our country that the government should take care of us and that i don't have to work

and i do think kind of a socialist mindset is coming into our country where we will no longer be necessarily a democracy. here in michigan the election is mainly about the economy it was a key reason trump won the state in 2016. under his administration some things in the so-called rust belt have improved. but the corona virus has undone much of that improvement. in the neighboring state of wisconsin known as america's dairy land many farmers backed trump and helped him to victory. how will they vote this time for. the pandemic forced dave daniels to reduce milk production for several months but demand is starting to

pick up again these cows are about to be inseminated for the 1st time. david least hasn't had to throw away any milk we do have to keep on farming these animals don't understand what's going on they are accustomed to their daily routine . eating lounging around and everything else so they they don't know anything different right now they just figure it's a nice sunny day here at the end of june. farmers like dave on trump hoping for better produce prices and less bureaucracy but thanks to trade disputes and the coronavirus they're now more dependent on financial aid from washington than before. when they were in response to cope with 19 or the trade war with china trump solution has always been money. $12000000000.00 during the trade war in 2018 another $16000000000.00 in 2019. and amid the

pandemic $19000000000.00 by the end of july 2020. you can go back to abraham lincoln there's no president has treated the farmers like. he would do with the farmers but i can't imagine. who wouldn't be but wouldn't be withdrawn. many farmers love him for abolishing regulations. environmental safeguards are farmers these are great people great americans never complain and never complain they just do what they have to do since the end of march dave has been head of the wisconsin farm bureau is better ration. he'd rather be working outside right now but because of coronavirus the meetings are piling up. today there's a conference with farmers associations from all over the country many support

despite the president's negotiating style. he is someone that takes we called the bull by the horns and he's been very aggressive and he says he has his reasons for it we can understand it that those are reasons we we wish that sometimes those tariffs one hurt as much but you know those opportunities that he has taken to hopefully have a better future for the united states and the. nearly all of dave's employees are from mexico most white americans don't want this kind of work. that's why the farmer is for simpler immigration laws. it's not as though dave isn't critical of the president if only he keeps his mouth

shut more often especially now when protests are sweeping the country. we've always been able to demonstrate though there is spend some demonstrations that have been on peaceful but for the most part you know the peaceful ones are doing it for the right reason. and you know when we have the african-americans and black white matters there there needs to be some some justification force. things that have happened in the time they have the right to do that demonstrate. rural wisconsin as locals like to keep to themselves and the pandemic has isolated the population even more. dave's wife kim is a nurse she knows the best ways to avoid infection. but she's also a committed republican she rejects mandated mask wearing to raise can make up their

their own mind about who wears them and who doesn't and how they feel you know it is america and we can't force people to do things so we just hope they make the right decisions that were around the spinners both have traditionally voted republican although this time they say they haven't quite made up their minds it's more about milk prices than the larger political landscape the decisive factor is who will be better for farmers. dave says that trump has gotten a lot right but he still on the fence trumps extremes his tendency to aggravate situations and insult those who think differently. these things go against dave's perception of america. i think there's more people in the middle but the

boisterous ones on the right and the left and i think they are they're drowning out the middle and how we would like to have this country run so it's it will be a challenge because it seems like the pendulum swings way to the right and then we come back it seems way to the left and i wish we could stay in the middle for a will a little while longer so people could be happier. this sonora desert in southern arizona a place blame is for its cacti. maxie adler and lake in georgia all want to show us the backs of tribes politics the pair document how the construction of trump's border fence destroys nature. trumps prestige project has grown despite opposition . lincoln is a former ranger he quit his job because of trump now he and maxie fight

against the construction of the border wall. as usual it doesn't take long for security guards to show up we're allowed to be here these are public lands this is a taxpayer funded project we have every right to be here you can call your boss you call border patrol. just the usual fun and games lake and says he used to work here as a researcher and ranger now he works to protect the cacti the saguaro is the emblem of the american west. it's blossom is arizona state flower. always has construction truck now it's like what like 40 or 50 trucks. seem like there's a lot more going on and just a lot more of the causes that. the companies seem to be working flat out

the activists fear trump is using the pandemic to push construction along before the election. 3100 kilometers of borders separate mexico and the united states. my administration has done more than any administration in history to secure our southern border so far around 400 kilometers of bents have been built claims it will be $700.00 by the end of the year. to achieve this he suspended 41 environmental guidelines and competition regulations in arizona alone all planned and financed unilaterally bypassing congress. this unesco recognised reserve is now home to excavators and bulldozers oh. wow. still well yes i'm sure it was killed last week or 2 it's still totally

what will be on the inside a star has to be at least 75 years old to grow an arm and so are has multiple. so i don't know for sure how old it was but. yeah it could be and could be although never the border itself. these giants of the desert. cut down to fill a campaign promise. i mean not only are these plants beautiful and irreplaceable but they also provide a huge amount of habitat to birds to rodents. they stabilize the soil they provide all sorts of ecosystem services and if we keep destroying these things that hold the patchwork of life together. it's just

a matter of time until it all unravels. if i did the search anyone else did this. would be a felony no show you could be put in jail for harming one of these plants but here it's like. did everyone. for maxine lake and trump so-called wall is a symbol of his governing style never mind the laws. people want 3 years to make them happen it's not like they happen overnight and the idea was that they would protect us and protect the things that we love and with so little. was able to just remove it as if it doesn't it doesn't exist anymore it's just an absurd amount of frustration it makes me feel like democracy doesn't. exits.

lincoln now works for an environmental organization in tucson. to witness the destruction as a ranger would have been unbearable now at least he's creating hope despite the pandemic. the violent killing of george floyd has brought a renewed sense of unity to those who oppose trial. and i think it's really clear that the status quo is not working for people and that it is possible to build a more just and beautiful world and in that sense you know the struggle. of the black was not a struggle and our struggle against the border wall against trumps track counting immigration policies are very much linked. to young people like maxine lake and are working hard to make sure trump loses arizona and 2020. revolution in phoenix is growing like no other city in the u.s.

thousands move to the desert city every year it's a cheaper place to live many bring with them liberal values which could significantly change this formerly deep red state changes what we really need black lives matter is uniting many people both black and white who are fed up with trump's america to even go to the beach but if it's a coalition that could change the country provided young people go to the polls and vote. last should make you scream last manacles be more than x. angela lang's goal. she's working to get out the vote in milwaukee. before the pandemic she and her colleagues walk through mainly black neighborhoods each day. she takes us to get a taste of the kinds of conversations she often has with residents. and tourists done there. oh she left can i leave us with now that we call our bosses voices will be our yes is not i feel that was the point of oslo and i think that i

think that's what a lot of people feel and i'm going to we're going to greatly have to go on you know martin i saw we 7 missed something and i teach him that there's nothing you can't do in life here nothing we want to be when you grow up. fun for you or i'm nice may not notice what i buy but i'm right and that's it you're like oh right i think i gave up on me a long time ago but on the off fight for health so who does a fight for their child who doesn't make sure that your child doesn't live the best life that you didn't have even if you had the best would you want to sit down and with elected officials and tell them everything that we are i mean i'm me i think i'll put me here for a purpose that you know we just miss it is that i shut up sometimes i'm sorry so the reason i ask is because this is just be what 5 minutes. and i'm like you need to have these conversations with these elected officials who aren't listening who

have failed you. voting rights are still a controversial issue in the united states it's often black populations that are most disadvantaged there aren't enough polling stations it can be complicated to register to vote and those who commit a felony can lose that right entirely absent that fear of the virus at primary elections in milwaukee just 5 polling stations were open instead of 180 a proposal to allow everyone to vote by mail was rejected which pleased the u.s. president you can't do the mail in ballots because you can have tremendous fraud people steal them out of mail boxes people print them and then they sign up and they give a minute that people don't even know where they're double counted. and organization is headquartered in this church since the middle of march things have been at a standstill here. but before coronavirus people were trained in community outreach

. after the democrats 2016 loss some blamed the black community for not voting thereby costing hillary clinton the state of wisconsin. but angela is angry that democrats took the black vote for granted. she wants to convince people that their votes are valuable but that voting alone isn't enough voting is just one tactic it is not going to be the ultimate solution it's not going to wave a magic wand obvious and policies are on dime it's really going to take voting if people are able to in combination with year round organizing that's is where you're going to see the change that's we're going to see the accountability it's our job to make sure that people are uncomfortable even if you were just elected yesterday don't don't rest on that to honk because we're going to reach out to you and we're going to ask about what your agenda is for the black community.

how many people you think you can get to pose past how many you can be responsible for. are all right mom and. that's a nice number 2 now that pastor greg lewis has survived coronavirus he sits in his kitchen and makes calls to other parishes now he wants to organize 100000 votes as part of an initiative called souls to the polls he knows how important his efforts could be hillary clinton was only a few tens of thousands of votes short of winning the 2016 election in his state to register to vote we can protest for the rest of our lives as some places go it's for all of that ears so we need to have a transition to something that would be more long term gratification nobody's going to write in or a white horse and help us see and there's mistrust for democrats and republicans

right now you know because look biden has all he's you were not always this guy did then i was looking forward to vote for. mr gray can his wife know how hard it is to motivate people to be politically active when they lack the most basic necessities education health care jobs. they said we couldn't do. no. they don't know dad we serve that. one god 2 different worlds steve bell was a pastor for 8 years before he became an entrepreneur because of the pandemic stephen doherty worship remotely from their living room day i don't know if you're we i moral values are important to them but they can forgive the fact that the president regularly disregards the 10 commandments after all politics is always an

immoral business. you know we're all humans as i don't agree with some of these you know words that president trump has said i still . i think over all that. he tries to do what's right even though sometimes it doesn't come across that way i'm not going to judge the man i know my own frailties on my own sin. that's between him and god really that's not really my judgement i'm not going to be i'm don't put him at the same level as jesus so he's just my president he's not my savior. independence day in wisconsin. pastor greg braves the baking sun for hours. after all a barbecue is essential on the 4th of july. donald trump has just

promised to make america great again. very good if you want this to be you know like true because it make america great again we don't see that you know we was a great you know when we were slaves when when when we had jim crow we couldn't go and walk in the cities you know we couldn't be undone and the town after dark room was a great you know so you know we don't this this is my daughter i'm sorry. the pastor can't see what's improved for black people since trump came into office. neither here in the wanky nor in the rest of the country aspired classes for us 4th of july is just a day off because we don't really have much to celebrate about independence goes we really are and they pinned you know we don't get the same kind of help in

consideration that you know other people get. one thing unites all americans there's lots of food for the national holiday do last year greg and his wife have invited over a friend and her daughters being together this time to relax with family free and love would be pretty right now that you would bless those with your stories we. might get through these times and it's so important cover from 400 years of devastation soon thank god amen amen. dodi and steve usually celebrate with their children and their friends this time it's a dinner for 2 it's a 4th of july that i i'm not going to forget i mean i'm kind of sad because the family's not together or not you know swimming in the pool and we're not laughing and telling jokes and everything but i mean i'm still glad as 4th of july proud to

be an american but it's just it's different there's just like a damper on the whole day at least there's something to celebrate they just received word that they'll get a government loan worth $150000.00. it should get their business through the next few months steve sees that is true that trump's america is good for him and others . but i think that's one of the things that makes me proud about being an american is we do help people in the world i know we can be conceived as bullies and in such but. i think america is. is good for the world i do think there are interests in the world that would like to see that change but i hope that america stays. a leader in the world and cares about our neighbors in the world. the fact that trump is already talking about election fraud annoys them but they're not surprised it's just typical trump. one last question before we go what

if trump loses but refuses to leave office and i don't know how that's possible. i don't know of a president that actually said that they're not leaving if you like that's a real probability i certainly have hope. but again i think going back to that his behavior has proven that he's much like my youngest child my sister tantrums that's a terrifying prospect of pressure it may be a very real scenario and a very may well be a constitutional crisis but the military were going to remove them he would have to be removed i mean that's the way we roll here so. hostile reached a baby i don't feel that he is going to make a special decree and create him king of america we all know that like just a champ gets voted out of office says and is going away we're going to hang him from him for years to come he knows he has millions of people who follow him and

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