it was the same cord to the social inequality a lack of the freedom of the press. go up work on the floor to stay silent when it comes to the friends of the humans and see why the old bulls who have decided to put their trust in us. my name is jenny person i work i d w. you're watching d.w. news asia coming up today has the catholic church betrayed its followers in china cardinal joseph dan long considered the moral authority of hong kong speaks out against a secret deal between the communist party and the vatican. and in south korea a new alternative for those who object to compulsory military duty on the list were around but there's still a heavy trade off. i'm

melissa chan welcome to news asia thank you for joining us the catholic church has renewed a deal it made 2 years ago with china which is an officially atheist communist state concerning bishops their agreement now gives the pope a final say over the appointment of them but beijing is the one who gets to come up with the choices chinese authorities had previously selected bishops without the say of the vatican and a division formed between state sanctioned clergy and underground bishops who operated outside state control the former bishop of hong kong cardinal joseph dan has spoken up about this a pro-democratic he has expressed concern over the church's engagement with china here's the interview with cardinal to china and the facts occurred recently renewed a secretive agreement signed 2 years ago it allows both beijing. and the holy see

a say in appointing push ups in china from hong kong bishop cardinal joseph santa q.c. secretary of state cardinal pyra lynn of betraying the 12000000 catholic populations to a peace the communist regime they always say a bad as women is better than no agreement ike another the send a bad agreement means a women which is immoral which is against our faith how can it be better done in the agreement incredible so it is a b. b. b. trailer. i suspect that the police wants to. have these. people much your relation. but that's very bad because that's a political thing is not religious we are reaching so we pursue our faith. card innocent journeys to rome earlier this month in hopes to meet the pope but

insane he is why reached at the underground charge in china will face even more persecution as state run church again to the chatham a c. from this secret agreement the 2 years since a man the things went wrong wrong very wrong. because. the end around received support from the vatican the older bishops die and. the holy sea don't give new bishops to the underground they give many bishops to the church and now the individual church all the bishops are legitimate. you may then lead you to bed but they are still bad people are there. and so the end of ground fear abandon betray because they are those people to the old quality of the pope who can't enter send was born in shanghai 88 yes ago he came to hong kong in 1948 just before the communists took power in china he sings

a phatic and is on the wrong track of us polity the appeasement policy towards space the pope john paul the 2nd the pope benedict they had very different experience delivered and not just. then communism. from russia and the pope comes from south america is understandable that pope francis had a sympathy for the communist because the communists in the south america are good people they come out to defend the poor people and the. military government but now china is and of the communist the commies are the prosecutor. of politic. actually it was a failure in europe but now they use a method for a while for china so it was a disaster he's been an outspoken critic of the communist regime over the years

that's to put him in rare son of the national security law imposed by beijing but he refused to remain silent i would be a liar you. say you are not already everybody is what he to lose is a freedom and but that's ok because. you see we believe in god. when god gives you a duty he is going to give you also the strength to do that you are here. for more we have martin jack the religion correspondent joining us martin cardinal sin just talked about his point of view and it does seem as if it's morally complex for the vatican to be engaging with a country like china with its human rights track record what is the point of view of pope francis. i think that there is a political concern and the political concern is how is it that one deals with

a government that has had a rough going with a religious group essentially the vatican leads a ripper sentence and the 2nd question is the moral question how we said that the vatican should position itself in relation with a country that has actually a very well established record of human rights violations the position of this vatican it's actually one that is fairly understandable which is studied they concentrate on engagement because they think that actually disengagement leads to communities the catholic communities in china i have very serious disadvantage so the position is not perfect but that is purely because it is impossible in such a situation to actually produce a perfect solution they should hear is if you have people on the ground that are the bend and all good offices of the vatican then the vatican has been gauge with the chinese government obviously this doesn't please everybody and cardinals then it's one of them the us it's another actor in the same position well you just mentioned the united states cardinal then had tried to gain an audience at the

vatican with the pope he didn't get one another person who tried to meet with the pope was u.s. secretary of state mike pompei oh and he wasn't able to gain an audience what was that about well i think that you know the issue of cardinals then. but much more pronounced with with my compare they come into the bow to enter they come had conversations with the vatican essentially in the middle of what are very public battles between china and regions i mean in the in the in the media drew griffin space but also sort of an electoral battle in the case of the u.s. and this is something that the vatican systematically and it's not only this pope has essentially avoided which is getting involved in what are essentially public campaign so this about to get this one this pope it's one that has done most of his policy his policy work specifically in the shoes of international affairs. behind closed doors we find out only months later exactly what he said it was happening so

i think that the reaction in a sense it's correct to say that there were parallel and i mean the vatican was avoiding the spotlight into which cardinals and make them pay all wanted to pull the vatican in one of the things cardinal dan was talking about was the situation of the climate in china and it is a fact that there are bishops that the vatican recognizes and he for this agree right from 2 years ago that the chinese government does not recognize and these bishops have been operating underground they've suffered for their beliefs and in fact minder standings at least one of them to my knowledge was arrested this year he was 70 he is 70 years old again you feel like some people at least feel as if the vatican has turned its back on their most faithful in china i think that there is. you know justification probably in the sense that if china is the government i mean it's actually treating this wake up to the communities and particularly bishops and priests appointed by the vatican without essentially

a certification of the of the chinese communist party then dealing with the chinese government and centrally form of betrayal but i think that this leaves us in a way back to the 1st question which is how is the vatican to calculate how to protect these communities other than to some degree engaging the communist party so i mean it's quite clear that simply getting out of the stage and letting the chinese government do as they please is no solution at all it might be very satisfying morally might be very good to be able to say well we have done the right thing in terms of principles but it leaves all of those people that you just mentioned a very precarious situation. now we know carville dens point of view and feelings is there a controversy among the church leaders about pope francis it's this year's most certainly most certainly i mean it's not it's not it's not. it's not a decision i mean the extension of. agreement with china that was taken lightly also because there is

a very strong internal fight which actually biddy's. story. conservatives within the church against many of the people that circulate around the pope's the pope's fear so in a way what bombay oh an old zen zen has been saying for really quite a long time especially in the context of bottled stud politically have to do a lot with china in the u.s. you know really give a munition to a lot of the people that are standing there criticizing the bottle. thank you my pleasure. for years anyone refusing to participate in south korea's compulsory military service to face up to 3 years in jail and a lot of social stigma with the south still technically at war with north korea the government sees conscription as a vital line in the country's defense but now after a court ruling there's an alternative way for conscientious objectors to serve. in

military service was never going to be compatible with his religious beliefs he says being a jehovah's witness meant he had to refuse conscription. if jesus had allowed war and violence then it would have been the most sacred act but he did not and so i was a follower of jesus i need to take the path of furthest away from violence. for those beliefs jang will go to jail but as of this week he will no longer enter prison as a convict but rather as a worker that stands to a court ruling that now allows alternative service for conscientious objectors at the moment natural tentative service is only available inside a prison. i think it's great there are many ways to serve society. if we work hard under this new system and i believe in the future there

will be more variations of alternative service that will benefit everyone on. this is what most young able bodied korean men are expected to do say goodbye to their families outside a military boot camp and serve their country for 18 months. controversially for the alternative goodbye is even longer jan and his fellow conscientious objectors will have to spend 3 years working inside this prison. i don't assume that. the fact we have to be separated for 3 years and i need to raise our children without him really worries me. at least now part of the stigma has been lifted and conscientious objectors like these won't be tarred with a criminal conviction. that's it for today there's always more on come for

slash asia and be sure to check us out on facebook and twitter we leave you with pictures of kathak life from hong kong and china thank you for watching and we'll see you next time. combating the corona pandemic. where does research stand. what are scientists learning. background information and. our corona update. from the. special next on d w. you know that 77 percent. are younger than 65.

that's me and me and you. and you know what it's time no voice is. 77 percent. this is where. the 77 percent this weekend on d w. they're our best friends and very old friends indeed there's evidence that humans began to domesticate dogs some 30000 years ago long before we tamed the horse or started keeping livestock. and this is the nose that always knows the dogs the sense of smell is about a 1000000 times better than that of humans dogs also inhale up to $300.00 times per

minute in short breaths that means they're all factory cells a constantly supplied with new odor particles and it's because of that amazing organ that dogs are being brought into the frontline in the fight against coronavirus. welcome to this g.w. covered 19 special on rob what's in berlin is great to have you with us we know that testing is crucial to trying to control corona virus millions of people the world over have already received a swab to the mouth or nose in the name of stopping its spread the research is in finland trying a new way of sniffing out 90 for a treat preferably cath this now to can be programmed to find it just about anything more all to bed bugs cancer now it could change the course of corona virus

detection meat. rescued from being euthanized as a puppy in spain he's returned to that fever for years sniffing out deadly disease for the wise no smell detection association and then learned as coded 19 began to spread to see was asked as an experiment to try to detect it it took about 7 minutes to figure out that this is what they want to look for so that. you know dog be able to change training sense in 7 minutes. the team quickly learned canines can detect a coded $1000.00 infection even 5 days before symptoms appear with almost 100 percent accuracy helsinki airport is hosting a pilot project through december that will include cross referencing canine results with those for medical devices if you talk to skin so here it just takes

a simple swab from a restore neck. and their use is yes and a couple of seconds a dog can tell immediately if a person has contract it coronavirus and. the way we see think it. is on the voluntary tests are proving popular but no positive signal yet from the finnish government about scaling up the program so since dogs are incredibly war effective much less expensive and far less intrusive than other ways of detecting the virus why aren't public authorities everywhere rushing to use their noses instead of ours we found one who is. is deputy mayor of vaughan the site of the airport i got to do it in 2 minutes took me 2 minutes out and get this budget covers the free tests offered to all arriving passengers he allocated 330000 euros total to the 4 month dog study meanwhile he expects it will cost up to

$300000000.00 euros per month for the medical option the nasal swab it's quite expensive operation of course but the docs are like 75 years ago a monk to says the data from this study should help bring in federal funds for expansion of canine testing as well as legal adjustments to upgrade the virus sniffing dogs authority to that of their counterparts working in customs because i write about ita oaks which i like that they can. assist and they can surveil what we call people both on a human bjorkman is thinking far beyond. airports we could train dogs with the same samples with the same training areas to open up. you know the concert halls or or be fair is or go to big working places hospitals or elderly homes football matches whatever both your

command and bobby line and warn if dylan doesn't harness the potential of the darn program itself they'll unleash it elsewhere we can well because there's still a lot of warm. she says health authorities from all over the world want to learn what these noses know well i'm delighted to say we can speak to professor holga folk who is chair of the small animals department at the university of veterinary medicine. thanks a lot for joining us can you just explain to us what exactly it is that the dogs are smelling during these tests. and thank you for the question and it's quite interesting i mean at the end of day we don't know because the virus doesn't smell but we do know that the virus needs a cell and they hijacked that cell and then they changed in that it was in the cell and actually it is something the dog can smell so how can we be confident that what they are detecting is corona virus. so

that's a very good question to ask what we have done in our study is that we compare people who had an infection with corollaries and actually have clinical signs so we're called american patients compared to a control group and in those groups we were able to find a difference of 94 percent hit rate saying this what we didn't have and that was people who had heard something friends of virus because at that time when we did the study there was no influenza season so that's what we're doing at the moment to see how it was the dog also to be able to discriminate against other viruses like in threatens our or also other medical one of ours us the stakes are pretty high if the test comes back in the results is is wrong do we know how the reliability compares with more conventional coronavirus testing you know it's quite it's quite

comparable i mean you should never forget that the dog will never replace a p.c.r. test so it's just a very fast weaning mechanism and there think you where else and you have what you could see how fast these doctors actually able to sniff out the people. so when you look at the fuel that you have 96 percent specifically an 83 percent sensitivity so it's probably more comparable to the antigen tests which are out there and then obviously for us the gold standard test was the p.c. archosaur all our patients were confirmed but it was up so if we were to roll this out further maybe nationwide worldwide indeed it would have been a strain of dogs to detect corona virus to actually carry that out. i think you know one of the challenges we are facing is that we often simplify our

world too much and what i mean with that is i think you need to have different test scenarios for different circumstances if you run a workplace i mean you know so i don't have an airport sniffer dogs but if you but if you haven't even a hospital one of the things you don't it's time so until you get your p.c. our test results at least a day sometimes 2 or 3 days under then you already have quite a limited workforce so where these underage and has all this no docs coming in is that you can actually do a very fast cleaning and hopefully then get this confirmed by your p.c. ourselves so i think that's where i could see the dogs being able to fill a gap or if you go to a concert or you go to any other social events you know they are you could potentially see that big with your lives in 2 or. just quickly so if it's quick it's noninvasive test it could be cheaper than conventional tests that we're seeing

so what is stopping this being immediately rolled out. yeah that's a good question and i think you probably are these my my colleagues in as well i do probably i'm not i to be honest i'm not one of those and sure i think what it stops is that we can't believe that doctors can be so good in detecting in medical things we totally. when they sniff are the bomb but we somehow that they are able to sniff out people who have a certain infection so perhaps we need to trust our 4 legged friends a bit more professor holger folk from the university of veterinary medicine hanover thanks a lot for joining us thank you to. and now is the boss of the program way you get to ask the questions to ask science correspondent that requires. how come there are so many fewer covered 19 problems infections and deaths in africa do

africans have better immune systems than the rest of the world there have been some pretty dire predictions over the months about the pandemic and africa the belief was that if the virus has done so much damage in europe and the americas including in in many countries that have advanced healthcare facilities what would it do to the underfunded systems in many african nations around one in 6 people on the planet lives on the continent so with around 43000000 coated 1000 cases worldwide so far you'd expect at least 7000000 of them to have been in africa but there have been only about 1500000 reported it's the same thing with deaths statistically you'd expect around 200000 there so far there have been only around 40000 reported why. under reporting could explain some of the

discrepancy but the experts think other factors are also involved especially the average age on the continent which is only around 20 that's that's the lowest in the world young people are of course less vulnerable and there are also a lot fewer homes for the elderly and africa than in europe or the u.s. where we're facilities for seniors have often turned into deadly hotspots people in many african countries have also often had previous experience with other epidemics and generally seem to have followed the health screening and social distancing advice for covert 19 high few mitigating might have played a limiting role in some countries of the virus seems to spread better and drier cooler. environments and there are indeed some theories that many africans might have more robust immune responses to sars cove to due to previous exposure

to other pathogens but that hypothesis still hasn't been backed up by by convincing evidence. science correspondent derek williams that you got a question for you kind of course submit one through how you tube channel and that was your call that 19 special thanks for joining us as more information on our web site just go to do we dot com and click on coronavirus at the top of the page for me i'm a teen thanks a lot for watching. please .

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