and our weekly radio show is called spectrum if you would like to me working from a show on the coronavirus or any other science topic you should really check out our podcast so you can get it wherever you go your podcast you can also find us at dot com for. a hefty downturn and now a sharp rebound commies in germany france spain and other european countries recover in the 3rd quarter which might do sort lived on amid another round of law is also coming china says it wants to be more self-sufficient in the coming years we talk to an expert what that means for the rest of. the program on a day when european economies bounced back fresh figures out today show that many

countries in europe have rebounded sharply from the hefty 2nd quarter downturn caused by the pandemic a 1st sight it looks like good news but there's more to the story germany has seen a jump in g.d.p. growth of 8.2 percent in the sort of quarter similarly france said its economy grew by over 18 percent between july and september hiver those are both massive drops earlier in the year meaning the economies are not yet back to prepare levels and with europe facing a new round of shutdowns amid a surge in new coronavirus cases businesses are fearful for the future these german properties are harassing but i have to drop the act on the 2nd look down takes effect on monday that day made my the end of the ban in puppet play group named the hell me just like then there are many artists restaurant and as an event organizers who are feeling the pinch.

you know everyone has to fend for themselves now some of us will apply for other jobs and someone even apply for welfare benefits to make ends meet that's a sad fact it's a very difficult time for all of us it's like. in italy there's been a 6 pm closing time for the hospitality sector since monday cinemas and gyms are closed completely for the time being restaurant workers past often owners have already been out protesting the measures one in 5 businesses in this sector have already folded. me my family we're not making we go aboard. my husband's ship i'm sure so it's very difficult for us. rome is promising and more than 5000000000 euro emergency relief package but the fear and frustration of the dominant response says i know all the protests against kevin 1000 restrictions have been peaceful this one in rome turned violent. in spain portugal and across europe public life is

slowly but surely being wound down the current of our situation is now more critical than ever and more on this let's bring in the marriot america says she is the deputy director of the brussels based think tank bruegel welcome to the program maria so germany france spain all posting strong recovery figures for the 3rd quarter how meaningful is that though when many european countries are about to or have already gone into another lockdown. one of these meaningful it isn't representative of the opening up of the economies after the shutdown so we see that booth closing the economy and opening it up makes a difference in the in the numbers i think that's an important thing maybe the opening up was too quick it was done in in a very kind of generous way i think this 2nd wave of these is showing us that we're going to see ripple effects both in the house from citizens but also in the economy

so i think it's important that we find a way of dealing with the need for possibly not just these were intended by connex this city next summer the german government has announced another aid package for the hospitality sector which is likely to be hardest hit by this new lockdown what will be essential in bolstering further economic recovery in the whole of europe. well there is an interconnection between managing the disease and managing the economy so i think the priority right now is 70 to support the hospital so they can they can help at this situation they can monitor the situation in some countries belgium where i live and the situations are really saturated in the hospital so i think that that would be the number one priority now beyond not a series the add that is on the other things that we need to manage on the whole that is the schools i think that's it crucial that schools remain open as they possibly can because this can be a surgeon inequality at the end of this month that making their schools may

remaining open is absolutely crucial then after that is easing did they come to me and the sectors that have been hit and the most if we could sustain people in employment that would be at a very important thing to try and protect and then of course after that there is issues of protecting you know mental health we're seeing that mental health issues are becoming a lot more extreme in that in the house of the shutdown so we need a package of things that we sustain both the health situation as well as the economy at the same time and brutally health of our citizens that are the europeans are providing christine legarde said yesterday that the isa being planned to quote recalibrate its instruments in order to help what would such help look like according to your. i think that there are 2 things here there is a primarily what they call the quantitative easing the pandemic quantitative easing program which effectively means sense that there would be buying bonds 2nd government bond market in the secondary market in in order to allow countries and

buy themselves to go to the markets and borrow and borrow rates so i think this is the very big thing that these could be year has done and will continue to do and beyond not tary you quoted 2 provisions so that would be providing liquidity to the sector which is of course a very important part of what needs to be doubts so 2 things are now the countries through participation in the markets and to borrow in order to finance the crisis and then providing liquidity to the 2nd marriage emeritus deputy director of the brussels based think tank google thank you for your thoughts and i to some of the other global business stories making headlines google parent company of about 3rd quarter results showcased a massive bounce back after a previous slump of the company reported revenue of $38000000000.00 that's a 14 percent jump over the same quarter last year partly thanks to more ads on its video service you choose the parent company of british airways of area and air

lingus says its passenger capacity fell by almost 80 percent in the 3rd quarter of this year so far this year i agee has let go of $10000.00 employees as part of a cost savings. japanese factory output rose 4 percent as of temper the latest sign of a manufacturing recovery in the nation as well as growing demand overseas is the 4th month over month improvement in industrial production for japan an uptick in car and machine manufacturing provided the biggest post. the u.s. government has agreed to extradite these 2 americans to japan to face charges related to former nissan chairman carlos gold's flight from justice the 2 men are accused of helping mr gone fleta levanon by packing him into a large musical equipment box a u.s. court is reviewing the extradition order. now after 4 days of

internal discussion china has laid out its 5 year plan for the country's economy one key part of the plan beijing says it wants to become more self-sufficient in production and consumption of goods and services it follows a bitter trade war with the united states but officials are keen to stress that they aren't planning a so-called decoupling where the united states and china sever konami to. only change china and the us saw the top 2 economies in the world and our economic links are shaped by our complementary economic structures and the openness of the global economy which you're. currently looking couple laden isn't realistic at all it does no good for china the united states and the whole world for a 2nd closer look at this with a 2 on here and here is the chief investment officer europe and asia at dodger bank he joins me from frankfurt welcome to the program too and of course there's 2 sides

to this while china says decoupling isn't realistic the u.s. goes on and blocks chinese access to u.s. technology. yeah of course what we have seen i think not over the pasta 2 years in this kind of treat war you can call it like this and i think of course the americans well aware that they might lose that technology leadership to china and the restriction on this but coming back to your original question i think it is clearly in both minds and interests that we are not talking about it because i think it's simply not possible they are the 2 words biggest economies in the word and they need to be traits of course between the 2 countries you can maybe argue in the new and medium term. that

my be reduced but we definitely not talking about any sort of the company montana wants to be more self-reliant particularly in high tech areas where the company in many cases is already a global leader whereas the challenge here apart from not having access to u.s. technology. i think what china has done pretty well old of a policy i would say 2 decades they have really moved up the technology and led of course if you think of china at the beginning of the re open all opening of the economy you would think of china as let's say cheap will bend with cheap products like electronics toys have been produced but miss is clearly no longer the case you mention there are already several big companies who can clearly compete with the rest of the word and of course with the size of china and the possibility

there we think it is quite likely that china can move to wood technology leadership like the u.s. and the government as we have heard not only to date but the prosecutor months. greatly supporting this initiative so and we wouldn't be surprised if the technology leadership will continue in china drown her in chief investment officer of europe and asia from deutsche bank thank you for a thoughts thank you. now it is a whopping 9 years late but burns new international airport is finally scheduled to open tomorrow the project was initially estimated to cost 1700000000 euros but the final bill is hold onto your hats 3 times that amount be our airport was designed for $27000000.00 annual visitors but with

a grand opening in the middle of the global pandemic it's estimated that the new airport operator only at 25 percent capacity next. still i'm glad it's going to open that's our show. for more you can always check our website at www dot com was called work and from the entire business team thanks for watching and never solving success.

combating the corona pandemic. where does research stand. what are scientists learning. background information and. our corona. covert 19 special next on d w komi push. ups right now on the phone right now climate change because the story. faces my fleshly way from just one week.

how much work can really do. we still have time to a. subset. of subscribers like this. the coburg 19 pandemic has put the spotlight on virologists well right now but their star status has also made them the target of public anger even death threats . and people because their lack of trust them authority would not want to take the . people. who want to shut the country down anthony found she has gained a huge following but not everyone. wants to listen dr fouts

much of. germany too has spawned its science superstars like. his podcast is one of the most popular in the country. xander kick ali is a regular guest on german talk show. a spat with politicians over their bias response at the beginning of the crisis. but as social media memes feed the echo chamber these new celebrities serving to further polarize scientific debate. well different views are vital in the world of science asking questions is key at the end of the day people believe what they want to believe but should we trust science or the scientist they're only human and this crisis has been full of uncertainties still science is not about certainties it's about constraining what

we don't know some of the best known for religious sin gemini working at the university hospital in bonn some refer to it as the straight institute after its leader research a hendrick strake he's 43 years old and well known in medical circles thanks to his work in the fight against hiv aids. but now researches across europe know his name due to the corona virus or sars kind of 2 pandemic. here and we had a concentration of the plasma from a person who was infected with sars to them and we can show that plasma can inhibit the virus but the patient has developed antibodies which can neutralize the virus. since drugs hardly work against the virus he is relying on the development of a vaccine when that will happen is unknown. to the optimists there is

a cause for optimism because they are currently doing so many vaccine trials and so much research is being put into it so that if things go very well we can have a vaccine in january or later next year. but history has taught us that it sometimes takes years or even decades until a vaccine is found. if or once one's found the mad rush will be on but will it be a case of rich countries getting their hands on it 1st leaving poorer nations to struggle with the virus. when a vaccine is available i'm sure that it will be available worldwide especially in less developed countries maybe even for free there or at least at a very low cost. and. in the meantime testing is the dank lab has been using molecular p.c.r. tests that detect the genetic material from the virus and have results within hours

. and tests detect specific proteins on the surface of the virus they aren't as reliable but they're faster. you harm are having them chime in and you can get the result within 15 minutes which can be given directly to the patient and a highly infectious person can be isolated and therefore unable to infect others. and others movement could see. how people get infected do something researches agree on via microscopic particles red by breathing so-called aerosol particles at 1st it was unclear whether people could get infected from contaminated surfaces this can arm our pows youngers to mostly human car example someone could have just sneezed into their hand and then touch the door knob and then other people touch it and bring it straight up to the mucus membranes. it's rare that it could happen.

whether people can have multiple infections has long been debated can those who have recovered from corona virus become infected or are they protected against getting sick again. so far they've been over 40000000 infections worldwide but only 5 cases of people who've been infected again with the virus this actually proves there's an immunity does that i mean we need to get artworks from africa are on display in streaks office for decades he's travelled the continent he's worked in hospitals in uganda and south africa. and africa the time i spent in africa showed me the importance of vaccines and how much more there is to research in this area of course and above all in his speciality a china and now though in covert 192 with a view to the fight against the corona virus in africa. there's less movement is a professor of science communication in linguistics at the council institute for

technology in germany and it's a community mosques and services the the opinions are wide ranging the advice has changed dramatically does science have a communication problem i wouldn't say that there's a communication problem it's a communication challenge why because science and society science and politics are very very distinct social systems science is highly specialized experts communicate in very very specialized ways and their methods and ways of working are highly highly specialized so it's intrinsically a challenge to communicate about this and this is what we know every day that you need to connect with the public and there are many ways of being misunderstood or are making oneself not understand the bar in this communication why is it such

a challenge just explain to us what scientific assessment actually is. well scientific assessment means but sometimes in the public seems like changing opinion all the time which is actually in fact highly and especially in corona times where there is fed up. involvement of ideas so we wouldn't want krone experts uncovered in $1000.00 experts to tell us the same thing as half a year ago this would be very very old knowledge so it's changing. very high speed and people collect data and assess data and can have different assessments of these data this is the normal thing that and scientists can have disputes and discussions on findings but believe if it's changing all the time and how can we trust science if there's

a good question we need to inform trust blind trust would be something like believing everything what people say this is not such a good idea but inform trust would be that we look at what kind of experts do i have in front of me that i have an expert on let's look at myself science communication so maybe i can trust this person more and then someone from another area who is talking about is communication and that's the same with our honesty for example that you might want to listen to someone who has actually studying this topic and not for example and engineer another criterion for informed trust. benevolence soul you look at is this person really interested in the well being in the wealthy or off society you are not but you're presuming that people are

listening and there are a lot of people who don't seem to be listening to science or the scientists. you know this is a big problem across because science communication is not at about conveying information it's about reaching out to people and people are very much driven by their identities for example and their values so if your private ample very much trusting. freedom and the if you're very much a free press and and just saying i'm not wanting anyone to tell me anything about what i should do or if i should put on a mask and it's difficult to read out the truth these people then you have to talk about value why is this all important for you so scientists sometimes also have to talk about freedom and identity and not about the research let's us for them and as a let's move on from the causeway institutes of technology thank you very much. time to let you ask the questions all you have to do is send them to you on you

tube channel a science correspondent derrick williams will do the rest. can you tell us more about 4 months and how long the virus remains infectious on surfaces. oh my it's our objects that are contaminated by a sick person that can pass an infectious pathogen along to others are thinking about them and the current pandemic has evolved a lot since the beginning of the year and experts say the w.h.o. and and other health authorities now say that the mites play at most a secondary role in that in the spread of covert 19 then the general consensus is that that surface transmission might be possible but is likely pretty uncommon however a few weeks ago when new study came out of australia that's drawn attention back to the question of how much danger phone mites might potentially pose so let's take

a look at this study so it to show what effects the different temperatures have on viral viability on various surfaces over time and the result that raised eyebrows was that at 20 degrees celsius the researchers detected potentially infectious virus on some materials for up to 28 days wow that's a long time for a surface to remain potentially infectious right but the thing is those experiments were carried out under very virus friendly conditions for example the viral latent test droplets that the researchers used were a standardized solution they were mucous which is thought to be a much more hostile environment for pathogens and and samples were also kept in the dark the whole time because u.v. light quickly deactivate source code to in other words the interesting result. i don't reflect what happens in the real world which is why experts haven't changed

recommendations and most remain convinced that the role that surfaces play in covert 19 transmission is small. thanks for joining us for another covert special i think it's much.

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