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this is news a line from berlin the entire country screened for coronavirus slovakia starts testing nearly every one of its 5000000 people but could it show the virus is even more widespread than previously thought also coming up. french police arrest a suspect in a church shooting it comes with france on high alert after a string of suspected terror tactics. plus the battle for the business leader top spot buying travel to cologne knowing they had to they had to win to have any chance of becoming the leader of.
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a michael welcome to the program while many countries are shutting down their economies as they face troubling increases in covert 900 cases slovakia is trying something different on saturday it started a nationwide effort aimed at testing its entire adult population the authorities have warned the only alternative would be a total lockdown this approach could reveal much about how the virus spreads and how many hidden cases there may be but it also comes with its own set of challenges . long queues outside this coronavirus testing station and. it just one of thousands that opened on saturday to screen slovakians entire population of over 5000000 testing is voluntary but any. not participating has to
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self isolate for 10 days. but it was very interesting i am here because i believe we will find out who has the virus it will go away and eventually we will live a normal life again but in the past 3 weeks slovakia has seen thousands of new infections each day mass screening is hope to control the virus and avoid further restrictions more than 40000 health care workers army and police have been deployed to carry out the tests medical staff expressing back concerns. i'm going to be a doctor so you know and i don't want it to end up like italy. and i wouldn't want to find my 1st job is to decide if someone lives or dies before putting. this 1st round of testing covered around the 1000000 people with reportedly one percent receiving a positive result a 2nd round of mass testing is planned in
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a week's time. journalist joins me now from bratislava greetings do people by and large support this. the country store already stressed thing because even though the government says it's of all really it won't carry it's not because anyone who is not get tested they have to sell some flies away and as so people very that they might get infected oh i understand you hons and also this this these are huge strain on medical workers and frankly even the spill could if the state these able to mobilize enough people to do that this thing however out seems that they they're able to get enough money call for help even from hungary and also you know some physicians and nurses came to help rescue slava so the country is
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largely divided it's this nationwide test is clearly unprecedented could it reveal new details about the virus like large numbers of people without symptoms. yes i think this slovakia has started to be collaborative ray for the whole lot because now the whole nation the stats the and so far the numbers doesn't really show like they deal with a 26000 cases in her copy of $5000000.00 so this is my plea was in 5 days on all the siac as the would have revealed so even though i have to break the legal beaks to to draw conclusions about about how well like a night nation by this the. but in slovakia be really bad that this was something like a last chance because of the host because in many regions started collapsing
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however a lot of experts warned that it's much better or it would be much better to do focus best thing that they stink the whole population is specially we just where you have like 0000000 cases or 0 battered city yet still very very out there on percent cases of infection you have to we only have about 30 seconds but you mention the hospitals collapsing if the results show a high number of positive tests will will solve akio be able to cope with the health demand. it's a big question and i hope so and i think that it will have to combine be combined are we do we go all down anyway so the going to escape the local. journalists be out to go over thank you so much thank you. french police say they have arrested a suspect over the shooting of a greek orthodox priest in the southern city of new york
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a priest was gunned down outside his church and is in critical condition the city's mayor says the motive is not yet known but it comes after several terror attacks in the country just 2 days earlier a suspected islamic militant killed 3 people at a catholic church in the city of nice. the priest was just closing up this greek orthodox church late saturday afternoon when he was shot twice. police kept the area fenced off warning the public to stay away prosecutors have opened an investigation into attempted murder. at this stage we don't know what the motive is behind the attack no line of inquiry is preferred at all rolled out so i weren't comment on the target of what sort of attack this is because. we don't know yet. residents express their shock
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i'm appalled because it's very quiet neighborhood a good place to live receive mostly the mushy have markets the synagogue a little further away the orthodox church everyone knows each other it's a small village and it's traumatic. recently francis seen a string of what the authorities describe as terror related incidents believed to have been spawned by cartoons depicting the prophet mohammed because the french president and while mcconnell's made his position clear if they don't understand and respect the fact that one might be shocked by these cartoons i will never accept that one might justify physical violence over these cartoons and in my country i will always defend the freedom to speak to right to think and to draw all fronts is currently on its highest security. let's take a look at some of the other stories making news around the world. critter's prime minister boards johnson has announced england will enter
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a 2nd lockdown starting next thursday with measures set to stay in place for at least 4 weeks johnson said action is needed now to contain surging coronavirus cases britain including england has the highest covert $900.00 death toll in europe . 7 opposition activists including 4 lawmakers have been arrested in hong kong on charges related to obstructing a legislative council meeting in may this comes after beijing passed a contentious security law in june the arrest didn't appear to be directly linked to the law but police have used it to compress apprehend around 30 people. here are some of the latest developments in the krona virus pandemic protests have been held across italy against a raft of measures to contain a new spike in cases the country reported a record number of almost 32000 new infections in 24 hours israel has reopened
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elementary school classes after 6 weeks shut down as a country eases restrictions following a nationwide lockdown that began in september australia has recorded no new locally transmitted infections for the 1st time in 5 months residents of hard hit melbourne enjoyed the 1st weekend of a reopening of cafes restaurants and pumps to the u.s. now where republican president donald trump and his democratic rival joe biden have been campaigning in key states on the final weekend before tuesday's election a record 90000000 early votes have already been cast as the bruising contest heads toward the biggest turnout in at least a century. biden and obama sharing the stage again a 1st for the biden campaign as they fight for victory in michigan where trump won by a razor thin margin 4 years ago a final campaign push in
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a battleground state obama didn't hold back. i understand this is a president who wants poor credit for the karma he had heard. and did 0 blame for the pandemic here north but the job doesn't work their way. through it at the t.d. doesn't fix things. megan stuff up doesn't make people's lives * better you gotta have a quiet. biden drove home the words of his former boss. we sure did you ever diversion. sirens over fiction. and yes creatures sure overlarge. just tarver stared out take back our democracy we could do this were some parts better than this where you'd be you we are at our best the united states of america. in
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pennsylvania large crowds gathered for president campaign blitz the state has emerged as one of the top prizes this year and trump is hoping to repeat his success there of 2016 but i do want to shut down your economy wipe out your factories and shut down your state ship your jobs to china raise your taxes for trillion dollars the biggest tax increase the biggest tax increase in the history of our country and i gave you the biggest tax cut in the history of our. campaigning and there's it's home stretch as a record number of americans are predicted to turn out. in west africa violence has marred the presidential election in ivory coast opposition parties who boycotted the vote say several people were killed in clashes on polling day on saturday police fired tear gas during demonstrations against the current leader on
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what he was running for a 3rd term which the opposition says is unconstitutional. the situation is tense in ivory coast biggest city where our correspondent funny has been covering the story. as you can see there is not much to see here on the streets and roads of more or less empty people are staying at home now does that mean that the situation ivory coast is stable not have been various disruptions across the country during the elections yesterday both in the center and in the south including the capital violent clashes between police forces and people who are trying to prevent the elections from taking place there is conflicting information just how many people have been injured or even killed the opposition parties are talking about 12 people dead while a government source said that our own 2 people have died just outside of and the
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president president ouattara is speaking of a few quote isolated incidents so clearly what he wants is to move on beyond this election by the opposition parties remain frustrated over the fact that this election took place what they are saying this was not an election and that quote the president has dropped the constitution by seeking a 3rd term. let's give you some football news in the bundesliga byron have been in dominant form but on saturday they travelled to cologne without their goal machine robert levin down ski who was off injured even without him though there were heavy favorites to beat a side sitting 16th in the table without a win in its 1st 5 games. would have been forgiven for hoping that by and didn't turn up for this one it's 9 long years since the last 2 been dissed legal points from their visitors but the bavarians did eventually appear on the wasted little
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time going in front this handball led to a 13th minute penalty. which thomas miller tucked away one nil to brian. and the other the 2nd in 1st half stoppage time with this beauty last week it was leroy sonny with the are you drop an impersonation this time it was pretty star i put cologne fought back dominic drexler was just on site when he inadvertently turned then young shot was punched the fence looking ragged. we made it a bit harder for ourselves we didn't go forward with much purpose today we made fewer chances than normal and gave away the ball stupidly so cohen always found their way back into the game. but the hosts couldn't find a 2nd and by unsecured yet another victory. meanwhile remain without a league win the season. you're watching news up next our documentary series doc
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film looks at the power of the big pharmaceutical companies if you'd like more on any of the stories you can find plenty on our website that's dot com and if you don't already don't forget to follow us on twitter at news i'm michael local in for me in the entire news stream here thanks for watching. can you hear me now on the stairs between you and i last year's german sounds that way bring you i'm going to back off and you've never had to have a surprise yourself it was just possible to this magical really what moves are also told to people who follow along the way maurice and critics alike join us for metals last august.
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the gnomish me and my name is michelle and munched life and i'm a father of 2 children because i was diagnosed with cancer wrote about 32 weeks later my life looked radically different has never been the same sorts of. even 2 rounds of chemotherapy couldn't treat mikhail's aggressive cancer only honk let. create a self if left untreated i would die in 2 or 3 months at best just so it's incredibly seriously clear. here's my last hope is a gene therapy with cancer killing cells such as kim mariah from novo artists with a price tag of 370000 swiss francs and camera is just the beginning of the new drug journal was injected into the body $850000.00 sold jensen
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it's now the most expensive drug on earth price tag of $1000000.00 how willing is society to bear the costs of we hold it when you let someone die to save money because. how are these prices calculated paul. coles pharmaceutical companies sound the market to determine what can make it house of it and with the need the. would health insurance companies pay these record prices. 370000 francs is a lot of money and we can't afford it was what can you do. it's tricky it's hard to tell what the future has in store. all you want we're going to get this cancer. out of let's hope so. mchale dian has a rare and aggressive form of lymph node cancer his crooked mouth also comes from
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the disease. his last hope is kim riaa a completely new treatment just approved last fall. samples are taken of the patient's own immune cells and these are sent to a noble artist laboratory in the us there the cells are genetically modified and reprogrammed into cancer killing cells. after being multiplied and frozen these cells are sent back to switzerland. the patient receives the killer cells in one single infusion with a price tag of 370000 swiss francs according to the novara just catalogue.
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it remains unclear whether the health insurance companies will pay for camera they have joined together to negotiate a discount. i mean that in a vice and i work for the insurer has done where i negotiate contracts with the pharmaceutical industry we're currently negotiating the price of kim rai with novartis. the price is too much she says partly because it is unclear what long term effects can royal will have and whether the cancer will return. official and it isn't quite clear to us how the price came about we didn't receive any cost breakdown and don't know why the price is so high it's all day it's good now is all . the pharma companies provide that gonski formally and there is no formula as to how the price breaks down and i've never seen a loss of the whole i mean this no i think they try to start with as high a price is possible because in the end it always gets negotiated. the 1st price they said is just a starting point latest software it's a real problem if you ask me i couldn't tell you what we can do about
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a fish cause the minutes ago. they discussed whether health insurance should pay. only in the event of success but what is success when it comes to cancer there's no solution in sight and for the time being every insurer is deciding for themselves. because times low cost a juror to pre refuses to pay for q mariah the benefits are not clear enough they say. the house to be honest i was furious as well because this stinks of incompetence if you are in the end it's like the wild west you will see you can fly shit those who can afford treatment so the ones who get a chance to have it all and for others it's not clear whether they can do to your health care yes. mchale's relatives want to fund the treatment themselves put the hospital is demanding half a 1000000 francs as security. after a camera infusion some patients reactions require transfer to the intensive care
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unit to leave because he. believes kindly willing to give 850000 franc advance on her inheritance. helpful. also you know me too so i'm also getting an advance on an inheritance. when my brother spot their houses they call their share and i hadn't needed it so far so but soca what now is like to use it for this and it's also cool what. does. that mean that i was accepted see if you get it really touch me that a lot of people i know are ready to give 10000 francs if it will help saying they know it isn't much so. there are a lot of people like that and it really touches down the hall who benefits because everyone realizes that in the worst case scenario the money will simply be going to
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fall and in the very worst case it won't even have done any good to fall. back east. according to nova artist one and a half years after treatment 40 percent of patients like make i still have cancer. that's a start but could it be better. it. was made of course but the drug i'm currently on had a 20 percent chance of success. in the south is good there were days when i thought that's it as he gets older and knew i could only hope my final hours would go quickly told us it's done i didn't want my family to have to watch forever does that mean for me to be a never ending with a work out committee and i didn't want to lie around like a vegetable on drugs strogatz with the dude's shook musique in the dog.
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about a dozen cancer patients cannot be treated due to the price dispute critics might claim the health insurers are at fault with terminally ill patients running out of time and dying while negotiations my gone with no bar to see the others this level of neither thought of but that's not the case we all share the responsibility because we have yet to find a solution to this all around less than ideal situation politics not so. mikhail monch times family has scraped together half a 1000000 francs he is the 1st lymphatic cancer patient in switzerland to receive can ryan. get the border. mikhail has a new cell is taken from him that will be shipped by plane to the us where they will be converted into cancer killing cells referred to as carty cells.
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will the treatment work mikaela's cancer is growing so every day counts. instead of the end of it takes a while for the cells to be produced in a best case scenario it will be 4 weeks but it may take a little longer since so many products are sent in put up the high concept of that i am called to me. but i had to ensure the funds are available to go come to ny about as prepared to issue a bank guarantee that i and we are supposed to deposit everything into a special escrow account that spec here's dan c. we'll make sure it's not touched but this way we can proceed with treatment by their father murphy earlier lymph node got it while. i was a pro. moved through clinical trials funded by novara case. with the see
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here i can feel at least 2. experts criticize the fact that the effect of camera has been tested on less than 100 patients worldwide the follow a period was must been 2 years and can royal was not compared to an existing treatment so the long term effects remain unknown this criticism generally holds true for other trials on bring her disease and. naturally patients want the treatment as soon as possible and the companies present the study results as positively as they can says antonia miller. this is the case everywhere and it's intuitive although there have also been studies with carty cells that have to be aborted because test subjects were dying and there were too many side effects up or and. because that went out isn't that crazy. wow by months
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i will say yes but we're also talking about patients who would otherwise die along with all their can competent diseases that's. done us our world has gotten impatient and our patients have to we're not just going to say to them let's wait 5 years and all that's the problem it's walking a muffin if you have a. plane. to trial with these deaths didn't concern novartis which conducted follow up studies on safety and efficacy. but what do you say about no vargas's price as it was our food in price i find the prices in general to be staggering in many areas not just those of novartis. ornon these prices are completely nontransparent to patients and to us doctors or it's. someone enabling all. all of this to go on because there are vested interests and none so there are reasons why they want to be on the company's good side this pushed into
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interestingly to whom they're stacking the 1610 film and then measure their wives stand off it because they could also produce in india or china and can afford c. and so it means jobs in basel alberts that's in the it's the jobs of course and if you look at switzerland for example it doesn't have much industry but it does boast a few of the world's most important pharmaceutical companies and i can sell it. at no fortresses plant in the town of dine in argo switzerland we meet with the head of cell and gene therapy in europe a month away the austin e u so this will be. this will be a key site for us. they avoid talking about numbers here but can swiss patients expect a price discount if the transport costs to the us are eliminated. no
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says mr austin e. because the production side doesn't affect the price it is the value of gene therapy that is relevant meaning a prolonged life. this is a paradigm shift because the pharmaceutical industry used to justify its prices with high research costs. the principle of value based prices is wrong health insurers say because a human life is ultimately priceless and they estimate that premiums will rise by more than 10 percent over 10 years due to the cost of medicines. and you're not afraid that the health care system could break if you continue like this. no i'm not afraid i think we can find the solutions we are open to take the resources the kinds we're open to take risks with with our
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stakeholders to make sure that we can bring the therapies the patients. the pharmaceutical industry calls this risk sharing with those insured bearing part of the risk including the risk for camera which was not even invented by no bar to small. these cancer killing cells trace their origins back to the university of pennsylvania and this is far from an isolated case with more than 60 percent of newly approved drugs in the u.s. not stemming from pharmaceutical companies that are german army a professor at the university of pennsylvania marching name invented. in 2465 years old but i began working on the. 19 idea to. karl june was named one of the world's 100 most influential people by time
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magazine in 2018 and the 1st actually tested this in patients or at age i.d.'s actually because they had lost during the virus many of their own t. cells. 2 years later my wife died of ovarian cancer in 2001 and so i really needed to move from the to do really all cancer or. at the time however he did not receive a dollar from the pharmaceutical industry because the treatment initially only worked on mice but not human it's ok what we know for sure is that the. fund in essential way was essential to make a new industry so to have philanthropy and the government supports.

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