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more headlines for you at the top of the hour coming up next a special edition of the coronavirus fry says more check out our website w dot com and follow us on instagram and twitter d w news. for me and everyone here thanks for watching. the fight against the corona virus pandemic. has the rate of infection been developing what does the latest research say. information and context the coronavirus update coming 19th. on t w. e n d of climate change. goes for most of.
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the people. what do you do they have their future. g.w. dot com for their groceries to get. a clear cut or. their natural habitats keep shrinking as we chop down more forests and despite the threat of extinction they often end up on our dinner plates. are the better of us the higher the price for poachers. but dining on endangered species can cost your health. zoonotic diseases aids ebola and then you corona virus they all jumped from wild animals to us. and they'll do it
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again. of a 19 broke out at a wild animal market in china there were international calls for the closure of such markets but experts warn a bad could drive the trade underground on its changing its hygiene i'll talk to an expert about that in a moment 1st some more background. what ours zoonotic diseases. their diseases caused by pathogens carried by non-human animals that spread to people 6 out of every 10 infectious diseases are believed to be zoo are not. the pathogens can be iris's bacteria parasites or funky. many of the diseases they cause in people are mild but some are serious and even deadly. the bubonic plague tuberculosis malaria and ebola are zoonotic diseases that have
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killed countless millions of people. mosquitoes and bats but also cats and dogs and many other species carry pathogens that can make people sick but often they don't make the animals that host them sick. transmission can occur via bite or through eating the flesh of a carrier or contact with its blood or feces. zoonotic diseases can spread fast and far if the pathogens adapt to be transmitted from person to person that's the case with the novel coronavirus. one hypothesis is that penguins were the intermediaries that transported the novel coronavirus from its natural host bet's to humans which markets where live wild animals are sold are considered a potential site of transmission of sewer not of disease pathogens some have been closed for that reason. infectious diseases from animals are
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a growing problem that probably has to do with humans encroaching on animal habitats forests are cleared for timber or to make space for farms or towns humans and animal species are no longer far apart this offers opportunities for pathogens to make the leap. there are more than $200.00 known zoonotic diseases but there are countless germs out there to each humans have no immunity are new devastating diseases lurking to prevent them making the jump to humans we need to protect wild animals and their habitats. colas how to louis is deputy head of the institute of epidemiology at germany's played place enough the institute also a veterinary epidemiologist just how dangerous odd zoonotic diseases.
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well sooner to get these sort of in in our human nature already for many many years of many centuries because we're going to diseases as i. have for the church and humans anything in a mall and interesting part is that there are 60 percent of all human infectious diseases they originate from enemy they come from animals and over the last few years a new emerging diseases it's actually $75.00 of them so are all going to look at an incentive that's quite a lot of cannot sell another has a chance to challenge the out chair between any more than humans and that is not surprising because the early humans you have had a pretty animal kingdom so therefore all the peasants and the challenge of viruses they're tearing up and so on they don't distinguish between animals and humans and there's no question barrier between animals and so is your noses are we never
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actually to most of the diseases that she have and this will noses like be nothing . to hona then dad lot of other cases where is this which we have already complex and men have to take measures against like rabies or to look in arms is those in there was this all i was telling women i was is all those diseases were around there all this now was it the one speech which they have had in the match 2 years and they're it who was lying to begin h.i.b. evil or are they all or a chunk of commitments so what do you say when will we now sharing a lot more of those diseases with the animal kingdom. yes me all this she had a lot of inner office. and now out recently is that you have more believe
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all. this is because 1st of all the other more you weren't eloquent take to the animals it's much more you also go into the penetrate to habitats over before they can detect the animals and plants everywhere for whatever so our politic possibilities between animals and humans they have match. hannity has gathered in addition to also have trained and our travels through all of the of the contrary if you like all now we don't like the video that it was in one day and all different it messes so they are going to kind of take possibilities much higher and it was ever before so what do we need to do what do we need to do to prevent zoonosis i think the you know there is even more says i'm going to have to and as you say we have to try to prevent them and that's
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think one she mesh it's really. messed up so we're going to haul in minimal baby. biosecurity at it saying applies to you really have to. know that they don't have such direct contact or close to take why specially is he said if there was had she missed definitely the birth so why the order to make her part of chile there's a lot more we need to do to be proactive before these diseases jump from animal to human though i mean what's the solution on that front it does that mean less factory farming does it mean chopping down list jungles and forests. well i could mean that all of this is needed. for us but it also could mean being whoa what they're up to can bring in this instance then become the you know the best in europe. they need help from other ecosystems
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they had it in my brain in viruses. that might if it was here or at present just the of manliness and sort of like treating ourselves afterwards like being in pain just sort of like what can we do you can keep. the farm type you can try. it possible to be more sustainable want to go see areas. where weights excel and so on but surely there are more proactive measures that we can take i mean what do you tell someone who who needs to venture out who needs to eat bushmeat. basically to survive someone in the democratic republic of congo say in a small village who doesn't see the danger in catching as there were no seats. they might not see the danger of that it's still a metaphor for the other. possibility of death you can't make them o.b.l.
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is the one that they are high cheek missions which they can take just to prevent those who would know this is going away from the animals to humans so in terms of being too late if you can try to raise a day on this but you can also on death that's what science and politics are trying to look is trying to find out what wireless is. in the bush we need and tell him why risk this could then be a threat to ask like water and so part of this is also one health principle we have the hells animals humans and the environment is sort of looked at politico and i think that's the way to go in your future to see what what is the health and how day interact with each other and i see desolate and we can teach some solutions there from coal is now to louis deputy head of the institute of it give me all a g. and germany's nothing institute thank you. now it's your turn to ask the questions
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is there. will other countries do their own challenge trials now that the u.k. has announced it's doing so. challenge trials involve intentionally infecting organisms with a pathogen to find out how well vaccines or medications work at stopping that apage and there are thousands track method for determining safety and efficacy and we conduct them all the time usually on animals especially primates but in ethical terms human challenge studies like the one proposed in britain can be pretty charged if the plans are approved starting this january researchers there will be going to liberate lea infecting young healthy volunteers with sars cove to initially to find out how much of the pathogen it takes to make them sick once the scientists have determined that they can begin giving other volunteers that scene's
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then subsequently challenging their immune system with that pre-set dose of corona virus to see how effective the vaccines are doing things this way can provide precise data quickly so it can really speed up the development process that's because instead of just giving a late stage vaccine candidate to thousands of volunteers and the placebo to thousands of others and then basically waiting to see what happens researchers have a lot more control over the entire process but they don't have control in one key area because we still don't have sure fire therapies to treat someone if an induced covert 19 infection turns severe the possibility that a human challenge trial could cause of volunteer long term damage or even kill the that can't be ruled out despite those risks britain is apparently not the only
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cunts. great to consider conducting human challenge trials i'm according to the science journal nature at least some exploratory planning has commenced in belgium and the us as well. for more on the corona virus go to our website w dot com slash of 19 of i. entered the conflict zone with sarah charlie my guest this week is in bob boyce minister of foreign affairs and international trade cboe c so more. as a former army chief he was also the face of the military coup that propels and none babatz of power will zimbabwe ever be able to see a change of the political and economic. conflicts of. just. one continent.
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a quick recovery have been dashed the country outpaces the worst economic and humanitarian crisis in a decade and critics question the political will to stamp out rampant corruption and human rights abuses my guest this week is involve ways minister of foreign affairs and international trade. more you as a former army chief he was also the face of the military coup that propelled him non-god what to power will zimbabwe ever be able to see genuine political and economic reform. foreign ministers see both you so much oil welcome to conflict zone thank you. you were the face of the military overthrow of robert mugabe back in 2017 as a commander you got on television in your uniform to assure the public of
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a stable transition back then you were the heroes of the hour now you have an economy close to co-ops with fuel food electricity shortages where is the hope in zimbabwe right now. world thank you very much sarah yes the change in 2017 and the advent of the current government which is the 2nd dispensation was as a result of a lot of issues but among those was the issue of the economy and the disappeared the public took over in a corner me which had been in distress for many years for different reasons some of the business could be sanctions and then some of the reasons could be that of management but this need say that there was hope and there's still hope because we have got to take painful decisions to the 5 the
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economy from where it was and these political decisions are the ones which appear as if the people lose hope but in reality. getting things right and i want to talk about you mentioned sanctions you mentioned management those are certainly issues that we're going to address but right now the i.m.f. is saying that you're in an economic and humanitarian crisis the worst economic crisis in more than a decade against that backdrop i'd like to talk about the priorities of your government right now because you have recently made headlines for splurging millions to purchase top of the range vehicles for nearly 50 ambassadors across the globe while the state is failing to pay civil servants a living wage how can you justify such a spending spree when millions are facing hunger. no the whole issue.
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is is is is best on the fundamentals this economy has got very strong fundamentals if that strong of sentiment those than what was there before and all of the issues which we are before me at the moment in his life as the economy is concerned is the is the is the currency it has been the cottons which has caused. but as you are well with an auction system but mr foreign minister just to bring it back we see issues because ultimately you purchased these vehicles and just to give our viewers a bit of context they were between $40.00 and $50000.00 per view a call when we're talking about the average civil servant this is the middle class in your economy they are making the equivalent of $1.00 an $0.80 a day and you're purchasing $40.00 to $50000.00 vehicles on you not out of tune
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with the priorities and the needs of your population with that money have been better spent elsewhere not a most sure said which they're talking about the variables which the one thing i announced for the new orleans very primitive and we have had to ensure that our own deployments. are more well. indeed that was quite a serious issue when we took over because the conditions of our diplomats externally was. that of. collapse because they were. moving with as they were moving with. something which is not. appropriate for a deployment was assigned for that mission and therefore by variables for the deployments was quite one of those measures which would address the situation
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of our diplomats but foreign minister you had made it doesn't look good boy it doesn't look good in economy where we're 63 percent of the population live below the poverty line yeah but what they have are the cost of those their cause was not to necessarily the issue which has caused the economy to be way tease the quantum it has been like this we are changing we are forming we are undertaking specific key decisions which are oriented to the economy and among them is the stubble as they should of the extent of it but we're also doing a lot of the economy to forms which ensures that even the investment development community is free to come in within the much our mantra of open for business let's talk a little bit more about that mantra and those reforms that you have been making in order to get the economy back on track because as you mentioned you promised that
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the economy would be open for business i'd like to begin on the economic front with your currency reforms because a really big source of tension right now has been the reintroduction of your local currency. last year after a decade of official use of the us dollar very quickly that local currency rapidly lost value would send prices rocketing raising fears of renewed hyper inflation but you have been quoted as saying the following that the return of the zimbabwean dollar is basically stabilizing the economy from what it was. is that really a message that's appropriate to send to the people of your country when the price of almost everything has ballooned a loaf of bread can essentially gobble up a few expansion settle the scenario which is happening on the ground is that this economy had norm wanted a policy. way of fixing it it only had to fiske of the fiscal side
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and therefore the 2 what one systems of fixing the economy both the fiscal and the monetary policy had to be. adjusted and that's why we head to introduce our own currency and our own currency is critical for our own people in terms of. planning and in terms of expenditure yes we are facing challenges because of the changes we've had to place and the did challenges have been that our currency was not stable and it therefore we had to have been took in measures such measures which are to stubble as all the enemy in the mire with introduce the. oh excuse me foreign minister i just want to follow up with you and ask you because to address some of this criticism though in the way that you rolled out this currency because we have a condom
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a saying that you rushed to reintroduce it without the backing of a foreign currency the i.m.f. cites missteps in foreign exchange and monetary reforms that have failed to restore confidence chatham house also saying that it has had limited results do you have any regrets not a whole in fact. it is appropriate and it was an appropriate decision that we introduce to our currency so that. we can side with foreign exchange operations and that that has been the desire of this government so we are not only trying to eliminate remember we have been in this period for some time before this. ended up when there was a shortage is when there were issues a lot of issues which would put outside the control independent of the.
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authorities because of that it was important that we introduce our currency in our currency which is ok supposed to operate. which was originally a u.s. dollar and just briefly foreign minister i'd like to ask you because you mentioned in the beginning of our conversation that one of one of the ills that is affecting your economy is sanctions we've actually had your president saying that their impact on our daily lives is a measurable that the consequences are dire but are they really because. or is your just your government just continuing to perpetuate a false narrative here as a convenient scapegoat the united states for example says they only have. 141 individuals or come for companies singled out in your country right now in a country of 16000000 not to do all sarah do all government of sanctions
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it to this country has caused the serious and intended consequences of all is called a weapon of mass destruction because this is the dead out which exists now is. a study instrument or act on zimbabwe specifically that it shall not access in external support from either the i.m.f. world bank or other international financial institutions and the because of that its means that the risk of. perceived risk of this country whenever these that hitting us but of assumption means it is higher it deters investors would lend to coming to this country despite the fed that is a mole was open for business which has been propagated by president muscle now
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governor and therefore we believe that these sanctions are now is relevant it is far as the situation is about with its content but they're causing untold sufferings not probably to the if you deliver ship but particularly to kowtow must population of the people and that's what is refuted by the european union in order the united states however i would just like to ask you because you're continuing with that with this narrative and by blaming the west for your country's problems aren't you actually shooting yourself in the foot i mean you mentioned that you need foreign capital because the truth is you need very engaged in order to improve your economy which is saddled with billions of dollars in debt at the advent of the 7 the public. president obama clearly articulated us foreign policy objectives and that was a reengagement engagement basically he will say we must be
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a friend to everyone and that we must be and they need to know one and that zimbabwe was open for business and all objective of that process was to ensure that we are members of the family of nations who can and who can. allow the companies particularly from the west to come in and invest in zimbabwe and the west is encouraging and that is the the objectives and l.r. drive to ensure that company is from the u.s. from the european union from all of these countries from germany should come into the bubble so that they can be able to invest and take opportunities that have been say that zimbabwe is probably presenting. do best vest with the but you need to promote investment which images for the movers in the international community whatever now that is. that
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investment for many international partners one of the precursors for that is the fact that many want you to tackle corruption in your country on july 11th president and he once again he declared war on corruption as he did in 2017 post his takeover speech and in his inaugural speech after the 28000 election so i would like to ask you why should zimbabweans and the international community believe that these are more than just shallow phrases i mean they're phrases that have been around for a while these are not just phrases. the president when the. particularly made his detriment on the undercutting day was clear and in terms of direction in which we're talking of corruption and a quarter of is something which we are at to mourn and not just something which is
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the original and you are aware that already. 2 covenant ministers have been reined in the not only original. of the body how is it not there radical mr foreign minister when you've had when you've had more than 2 years in office and several of arrests have been made but there have been no convictions to date no convictions to date and even the president acknowledges that there is a so-called catch and release system in place yes but remember we have what separation of powers to do you know it did so that devolve selves in the judiciary and therefore when people have been arrested and will be charged and everything it is then that is the responsibility of the judiciary to handle the cases but the prosecution side so that if they do this with the cases. they are being given the court dates and they have been appearing when court of moment and the we believe
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that we. should and the not theorising of the whole process is when many people believe in fact it is the 1st time that she has been handled head on in this country than ever before ok so let's look at a very high profile case a concrete case on corruption and that is the case of coulda tog theory he is the boss of such a holdings it is said to have purchased buses from a chinese company and then resold them to the government at twice the price it's costing your citizens a lot of money here apparently made a $54000000.00 profit here tell us. is this an example of the type of business practice that needs to be investigated because there's talk that he got this contract without a proper process of procurement i think that is a misinformed position as far as we're concerned and if there's been any. such kind
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of complaint it should have been deported to do this mobil and the corruption commission but that is what has been reported by the end up using information or former youth leaders in fact reported it to your anti corruption commission the i.m.f. reportedly also privately warned zimbabwe that the state payouts of sequential were quote undermining trust in the economy you are pushing it to your target having fears of the highest levels of government why not just investigate. earth. because he's politically connected not at all in fact. talking about the issue of buses those buses. a way of bought from. what is it the of and it was the deal of the bus company here in zimbabwe not
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even. out of china that it but through the agent who had supplied buses be fall into this country and with bill is their will is it is to contract and these buses were bought when ordered and ordered and it delivered that our transport system is efficient more so under the covered snoddy so. there was like there won't be an investigation there so everything's above them. so mr foreign minister then let me . just let me ask you about another case where everything does not appear to be above board we also have to mention this high profile case which is currently ongoing that your health minister who would fire this month for inappropriate conduct after he was accused of illegally awarding a multi-million dollar contract for covert $1000.00 medical supplies and just to give a reference point these masks were apparently costing the government $28.00 per mask there's been public uproar over this he's facing 15 years in prison if convicted
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will your citizens see real consequences what that does exist in the testimony all for how the and the corruption drive in this country is because he has been arrested and he has been charged and therefore it means. and what at least. no no no no it's not being caught and released remember the justice in this country he's going to appear in court and of the of of that is going to be presented and then it to be up to the judiciary. to convict him or not but that's just not it is not the disposability of of of this that i believe. ok mr foreign minister i'd like to turn to another issue now and that is the issue of human rights particularly the issue of freedom of assembly has been criticized in your country the president has said that
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everyone in zimbabwe has the right to express themselves freely to criticize to protest but i just like to bring in one example because these are the protests back in early 2019 security forces responded reportedly with lethal force killing at least 17 people raping at least 17 women shooting and injuring 81 people or arresting over 1000 suspected protesters during door to door raids that doesn't sound like an ideal condition for people to express themselves freely or does it to you. well let me assure you. and all the viewers that this government and the constitution of this country clearly article is old the rights rights all through the. freedom of expression and freedom of religion and so on and besides that there's been
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a lot of emphasis in terms of. embedding these rights among the people but there is no freedom in the constitution or in demonstrations or protest there is no freedom. of. bending people's cars and of the like that but it must be this which respects other people's rights as well let's talk about other people's rights out of interfering and also just to acknowledge the violence in this case was against the protesters they were the ones who experienced the fatalities but let's talk about the rights of others and turn to another case. a crackdown on dissent and this happens in may when 3 female opposition activists were on their way to participate in a peaceful protest organized by the opposition they were reportedly stopped at a police checkpoint in harare subsequently abducted by state agents tortured sexually assaulted a very high profile case in your country is this what opposition leaders can expect
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in your country they've subsequently been arrested themselves they haven't even received an investigation into what happened to them. set out it must you must be very careful when you're mad at these assertions because in the 1st place we were in the closet period and because of the cost 8 you cannot have done with sessions of or symbol of about 50 people in town now if you breach but the law in that regard and you then cause a danger to the rest of the population in terms of the instructions it is you are fitting other people's rights to life which is not in up it which is not appropriate to the other set the issue is that you you believe at the moment that states of agencies ducted those women but this is
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a must which is under investigation and this if i'm going to start this i have truly been produced as actually been produced by the minister of the month is which is clearly that this could be leading to one of those issues which is that managed to while. the nation are already done event ok but you didn't i didn't notice holland for their release it's also not my assessment it's my assess the assessment of the un but i'd just like to ask you generally speaking because international n.g.o.s they describe a lack of political will when it comes to instituting reforms in your country i'd just like to quote human rights watch it says the following zimbabwe's failure to decisively deal with cases of abductions disappearances and torture severely undermines the standing of the country within the international community the country needs to end impunity if symbolic way is to be respected failure to do so undermines the country's reengagement efforts with the international community how
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can you possibly convince the international community that zimbabwe's open for business when these assessments are so damning. that but you must understand exactly where these are being provocative from and aware that they coming from mainly the opposition in this country has got this strategy of attracting attention by stage managing events which we should add up to the international community. eyes and content and in the reality when there's not been any of such an abduction the example is the mug and bade the doctor and even the current lead is something which is under investigation which i don't want to do continually really delving in in it but i can assure you of that we have made reforms and this is the reforms i took in place you are aware that the
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west has been very concerned about the pasta and that process has been repealed the west has been concerned about a plan and has been repealed and there is progress in the forms and we are saying that this is the reforms in this suddenly being undertaken for the for the sake of. the international community or the western capitals but they're also being done for the benefit of all on people so that they should benefit our own people and of this government the 2nd the public zimbabwean foreign minister genuinely pursuing zimbabwe in foreign minister says he's a lawyer we have to leave it there thank you for joining us on conflicts on. thank you all.
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