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values and someone who will. be true to his word and not just look at the world as a series of single singular transactions between one nation and another well it was exactly that attitude that led to relations between germany and the us being very strained over the last 4 years let's take a listen to how the german foreign minister heiko moss reacted to the news i find sanctuary. and i'm relieved because at least now there's a result but also because the person who's been elected has shown in the last 48 hours that he acts very responsibly he's someone who wants to reunite his country and tackle global issues that's why we're looking forward to working together with him and this new government this is over but even so i don't read your. mr collyer how do you think the relationship between the u.s. and germany will change now. oh i think instead of having someone who is obsessed
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with german cars being driven on american streets you're going to have someone who looks at germany as really the biggest partner in europe and in a world where you need more rather than fewer friends and allies. the united states can be trusted to want more cooperation on a lot of different fronts with germany so in that sense germany instead of having the sense that the united states wants to knock it down a notch will in fact see its role in europe and the world strengthened by the. genuine respect that someone like biden would bring to germany. nonetheless many americans did a fod donald trump america 1st approach to foreign policy while that's making it
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harder for vine to build bridges now say with nato. well you know 70000000 people did vote for donald trump this is you know a huge proportion of the american public so this stream of america 1st has been a a long historical. part of domestic american politics but the u.s. president has a lot more room for maneuver with out the approval of the direct approval of congress and so whether or not the senate floor remains under republican control or. there's democratic control that is less important for the united states woman world where the the u.s. president has a lot of discretion so in that sense 70000000 voters who
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perhaps were the america 1st rhetoric resonated. that won't matter nearly as much this is not a serious check on president a president elect joe biden. a lot of people say that trump has done a lot of damage to the norms of international relations would you agree to that and do you think that damage can be apparent under president joe biden. i think norms are less important than kind of an understanding of what interests are and how to advance the interests there's no doubt that the united states of america will have its national interest and like all the other sovereign states acting out there in the world will try to get to advance its own interests but the idea that you look at the world is a 0 sum game that what the united states wins means necessarily that someone else
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loses rather than through cooperation serious cooperation coalition building. with other nations through coordinated multilateral action these are all potentials to strengthen. american influence and to advance american interest this way of looking at the world was totally foreign is totally foreign to a donald trump who saw everything in terms of strictly bilateral relations rather than a rather complex interaction of different countries with unique interests. asymmetric powers so much more influential than others but that their deals can be done. in a a way that is much more complex than simply i when you lose that is sort of the mentality of going to the bizarre and. negotiating over carpet or
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something like that it's not that that's not the way the world works and joe biden certainly understands that from all of his experience on the senate foreign relations committee and as vice president of the united states a lot of changes to be expected aaron collyer from foreign college for len thank you so much pleasure having. let's check out more of their reactions to the job i'm spectrally if you're regions are as affected by who is in the white house and latin america our correspondent in the colombian capital bogota has reactions from people there. at least i'm very happy i mean u.s. citizen 2 and i voted for biden regardless of republican or democratic policies what you want is a leader who is morals and ethics resemble your own and that was certainly joe biden and not don't know trump so i'm very happy. there's 3 more phillies i'm very
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happy that trump lost i'm not a big fan of biden but trump must go he was damaging the country tree much so we're very happy he's leaving. we really says. survivor you in my terms it wasn't the best and i think that influenced the result a lot. when i think biden's an interesting person but the heresy is very important especially because she's a woman of immigrant origin so she represents the very opposite of trump and the fact that she's african american is another step towards that freedom that we're hoping for from the united states and what's a kind of war against racism which is their main problem. it was our latin america correspondent john ramirez who talked to these people and earlier i spoke to him and asked him how engaged people in the region have been and as he left election campaign let's have a listen. the u.s.
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president is always a big personality in latin america but i think this time donald trump is special because 1st and foremost he's very controversial that it's very it's more closer to our cultures it's more closer to latin american leaders who actually used to say things than not most many president presidents they are to say so is a personality that is closer to the leaders in latin america the natural was even a very often compared with former venezuelan president hugo chavez so i think that's one of the reasons why in this election people got a lot of attention on the u.s. . our latin america correspondent mira there now just to remind you of the story we're following for you in our ongoing coverage democratic candidate joe biden has won the u.s. presidential election after sealing victory in the battleground state of pennsylvania of the 99 percent of votes counted in pennsylvania biden won 49.7
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trump on the other hand 49.2 the 20 electoral votes biden takes home in the state allowed him to surpass the 270 needed to win the election according to projections by the associated press that is he also picked up 6 and giving him a total of 290 electoral votes to republican president donald trump 2 $114.00 now as we've heard throughout the $9.00 is refusing to concede defeat in the election instead pledging to press ahead with legal challenges in several states in the past presidential candidates have publicly admitted defeat and congratulated their victorious opponent let's have a listen to some of those concession speeches i just code that governor clinton over in little rock and offered my congratulations he did run a strong campaign i wish him well in the white house and i want the country to know
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that our entire administration will work closely with his team to ensure this smooth transition of power there is important work to be done and america must always come 1st so we will get behind this new president and we're. going to contest as long and difficult as this campaign has been. his success alone commands my respect for his ability and perseverance but that he managed to do so by inspiring the hopes of so many millions of americans. believe that they have little at stake or little influence in the election of an american president is something i deeply admire and commend him for achieving this is an historic election and i recognize the special significance it has for african-americans and for the special pride that must be theirs tonight good evening. just moments ago i spoke
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with george w. bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president of the united states and i promised him that i wouldn't call him back this time. i offered to meet with him as soon as possible so that we can start to heal the divisions of the campaign and the contest through which we've just passed let's take you straight to detail your correspondent stephanie once he's in philadelphia step on your end pennsylvania the state that tipped the balance in joe biden's favor what are people are saying. well we're going to tell you what they say in a 2nd about believe it or not worse at the command center here president to come out so that in philadelphia and here inside the still counting both men and ballots tiny amount but still the finishing the counts not just discussed major networks r.a.p protectorates joe biden that's the next president it's not a president elect that they stop doing the job that's going on what's also going on
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here walk with me. you see here the biden horse. stall right over the colleague here. whole thing haunting this issue out on the other side rather die hard die hard from supporters a little bit you know shine of hibernation not about playing it way off from science in the here and trying to force her to laugh you know how to spell the supporters of. the post over account that was the. fault of people she was not armed soldiers a lot of tormenting going back home or are not really lovely out there was no distract from you i would love to. take you and talk to somebody like the m.s.m. a course can ask your question. yeah yeah ok so do you mean that.
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which anyway in the near future that should have been the 1000000 trump all those should buy things over there 74000000 supporters and voters come someone put together. hoping so hoping that's what biden can bring to the nation. but i don't know are you were very delighted to see your extremely divided right now and i know it's going to take a lot you know some people think a lot from new hampshire some people from like you know you want to make a proper mice have come from eyes from my spine and i again i i don't know for their to the point yet i think. chad has made this such a it's his rhetoric has been sort of arson we saw he's been attacking the sick man and i don't i think it will be a while before we can come to terms we will back you. see from each other's perspective i think it's going to be. very much.
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between there's not much because you are for one for this at the moment both sides all the way that we are america our support for this child is this i don't know what the 4 year old shambling or whatever you want to frame is that this is going to be you or. you saw says to go together really literally like if you look at this record which police in the middle sub. form that cloud and this seems to be almost no middle right now of course having said this putting this into context was always possible as an american our choice is well know overcame a lot of crisis is in sizing 20. in the past so. far today. and for ways we are for the wealthy or poor joe biden over the top so
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when the president says get into the i thought we were. like for years those people here we are they don't really care. what species you are strolled over. they also don't care if the president will use a concession you don't like that i want only to go to a coup to go 1st his own house and give us everything is don't have to. hurt to the enormous which american president thinks you're. a practitioner in the past not a goal or make sure. by this. point there are supporters for you in this in the last 4 years anyways i'm anti-gun is there more in this. thanks to highway then you've been a difficult year for the us in many ways each talk about the simultaneous crises that the country is going through which of those do you think joe biden will have to prioritize what are people saying there where you are what are they hoping he'll
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take on 1st. wife number one coronavirus people here that he's handling the coronavirus crisis in america are there for we let's not forget that a 100 plus 850000 new infections were registered. for any of it over 112 years i was told was you i see this topic this comes automatically inherit the economy. there's millions we learned rolling officials who you know saw and of course before you even those who were for the role of joe biden they'd be much harder many more they want him to go to work we've talked to we've been here and they said like look i want to this is all fun and games now who really got gold from dissolve the door and get this litigation doesn't prevent this from let's say it's all these are your goals but that means
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show me the job i miss the work to work. that's right for. just timing of. the month and now he is showing us that literal divide between republicans and democrats thank you so much will come back she later. with me in the studio now is william croft of our u.s. election team well yeah we just heard at a nation divided it joe biden ran on the promise of getting people back together on healing the nation what will you have to do to accomplish this and certainly not the 1st president to use that kind of rhetoric healing the nation let's come together we saw that with barack obama we've even seen that with losing candidates asking their supporters to you know support the new president and what's best for the country it's going to be a really really uphill battle i i have a hopeful idea a hopeful hopeful way of looking at this that this could be
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a moment for especially republicans who have really fallen in line with the trump rhetoric and many of them at state and local levels have used the trump rhetoric to win their own respective offices that they're going to finally see the the road that has been paved 20 and 30 years of just increasing partisanship increasing tribalism where it's not just another party with another idea to get to the same place but another party that is evil that is going to destroy the country that must be there for themselves destroyed this we've seen on both sides but really especially the republican party so that's the hopeful vision that maybe this is really going to be a turning point said whoa we came way too close to the edge here and let's dial it down a little bit but we know that you know winning in politics is for many political leaders the most important thing and they'll do anything to hold on to their power and although joe biden has a long history of being kind of
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a centrist someone that makes people want. both sides of the aisle very comfortable has a long history in the senate himself working with republicans that it's not the senate that he came from it's not the the statesman like atmosphere that he came from it's very bitter very partisan he himself was vice president to barack obama his job was to try to be that that middle man between obama and the senate and the congress and he himself made very little headway in getting obama's you know agenda passed through a republican held congress so with a bike to do that himself as president now is going to be a very very hard thing to do indeed now maybe he doesn't like hearing this but he's on his way out what will his legacy. his legacy is going to be i mean 1st of all we won't know that until until history is written of course i think it's going to be a moment that america really took and reflected about the kind of country it wants to be. that power isn't everything that we don't want a president who acts like
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a king that we want people who are informed that know about the levers of government remember donald trump like him or hate him he has no political experience he doesn't know how the government works a lot of the times you got criticized for sounding like a dictator of it really has just become just interrupt you there a 2nd because we're just seeing images of the biden convoy reaching the convention center there in wilmington delaware so it'll be only a couple minutes until you take the thing and addresses the nation but until that let's keep talking legacy legacy so you know he got criticized a lot for being a dictator but many times at least the way i viewed it he just didn't know what the rules were he didn't know what the limits of his power were and i think you know we really saw you know reagan for example ronald reagan was a t.v. actor and mocked for you know coming from this hollywood background and i think americans got very lax that everything is fine you know we won the cold war we've
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won history is over everything is kind of running on its own the machinery works on its own we don't really need to be involved in elections we don't really need to be involved or what our political leaders are doing we have to now i think donald trump has refocused the importance of being involved being a you know being really civically engaged and i think that will hopefully be the positive legacy of donald trump to really you know bring democracy back and i thought we think we saw that in this election where i know personally i have learned so much about how u.s. elections work today by work by seeing all these press conferences from these mid-level civil servants who are not used to being in the limelight they sit in their offices and they tabulate votes and they're not used to have. to present all this information and we have all learned so much about just how precise this system is and although it's chaotic and complicated and different across all the states that these people know what they're doing and where although they have their own personal political opinions of course and they're republicans and they're democrats
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that their job is to be professional and to look at the numbers and wherever the numbers go that is what the democracy says and that is who the winner will be and i for me i think that's a very positive legacy to move on from here let's talk handover and let's look towards january normally the way or it says that there's a transition team that works closely with the incumbents team in the white house do you think we'll see this kind of a handover this time around or will this like many other things with trump be a 1st. yeah i think we don't really know how smooth this is going to be you have to remember of the general services administration which is a part of the executive branch so it's donald trump's own department and they're the ones that kind of oversee this transition they're the ones that have the money to pay for this transition is a lot of money remember we're talking about changing power of the executive branch
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it's a huge amount of staff and turnover and training. and they it's a trump appointee who runs the administration so we need to hope that that the woman that run that's one of the administration will you know sort of not certify this vote but see that the vote is pointing towards joe biden and get the transition going we should note that you know there is a history of contentious transitions when the clinton administration had to overturn over the keys so to speak to george w. bush a lot of staffers pick the w. out of the keyboards and george w. bush's staff came into the white house to find keyboards without w.'s you know just a little bit of revenge for you know that contested vote. you know it's going to be a lot of work. did on balance or hasn't even conceded the election and even admitted defeat and it's not the time is ticking 2 and a half 3 months to turn over the halls of power is a lot to do even in the best of times and there might be a lot of litigation on the way to that handing over of power walk us through the
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possible scenarios because dahlan has announced he will challenge the outcome and several states. where can that take us i mean if we are to use what we've seen already as evidence for what's going forward i don't see that as much of a threat already most of donald trump's campaigns lawsuits have been immediately thrown out by the various courts for lack of evidence so he can keep trying and he is trying in several states whether it's about you know recounting the vote or questioning certain ballots he's welcome to do that but at the end of the day he needs to present evidence there is some of course some chance that maybe one or several of his cases will actually go forward maybe some counsel be will be forced to to be recounted. but ultimately again as i said these election processes to us from the outside looking in they looked really complicated they chaotic but if this election is proved anything it's that these election officials know what they're
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doing they know you know all the different contingencies if there's a recount if there's a legal challenge what do we do a certain ballads don't appear to be legitimate you know donald trump is showing doubt into this process because he knows how complicated it is to the average person and how illegitimate it could look but again you listen to what these election officials are saying and you realize these people have it in their hand they know what they're doing they are experts in their respective states and so if there is a legal challenge ok they'll respond to that and they will provide the factual evidence that will go one way or another and again as we've been saying all night as all networks are saying and everyone is looking at the facts are saying the numbers are just in joe biden's favor so i think we can look to a normal handover of power with joe biden assuming the presidency as it is in the constitution at noon on january 20th 2021 we have 2 more minutes until we have to go to break maybe just briefly all of these claims that has been making are complete and utterly baseless as you just said but there are people who are
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listening to him what would your message to these people be. i mean people are allowed to believe whatever they want and i don't think we should and why don't we should overestimate their role their influence of course they have they have the right to vote they have the right to speak but the majority of americans even many republicans. are looking at this and saying ok these are the facts the facts are that joe biden has one there are in any country of any population in any society going to be people who are on a different planet who see the world in totally different ways they have a right to think that but we don't have to necessarily give them a platform and treat them as an equal 5050 side what do they say what are the other side say so you know going forward we'll look at the facts i think this election has proved that facts matter they still matter this time and that's where we are. facts that are. joe biden has been like that u.s. president after winning the swing state of pennsylvania biden plans to address the
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nation in a short while don job has not yet but he's ready to concede the election campaign is vowing to press ahead with legal action. for watching it all when it is on the whole fairly with me in the studio william schoolcraft and we'll be back after just a short break with joe biden addressing the nation and to watch.
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this is the daily news line from berlin tonight america's new president elect to make his victory speech joe biden will celebrate his narrow win over donald trump a nail biting 4 days after the election joe biden that's expected to take the stage and delaware at any moment now will be going to line.
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