institute's outgoing director close to time. we look at his final year in office and he's in for a stiff career. maybe the last cultural diplomat. starts nov 16th. d.w. . you're watching the d w c h a coming up today taiwan's impressive pandemic response as cases mount to around the world taiwan has emerged as a model for stopping to spread its covert 19 can its approach be replicated elsewhere. and in the end market quarantined patients are sick stressed and stigmatized over the coronavirus now volunteers who've already spent years behind bars are talking to them through their isolation.

i'm melissa chan welcome to news asia thank you for joining us as coburn 1000 cases climbed around the world once again we take a closer look at the government that has most successfully tackled the pandemic in asia taiwan just 7 people have died of the corona virus there with a total of 570 cases ever recorded as of this tuesday some people have pointed out it's island geography as one explanation but take one look at the u.k. and that should dispel any myth about an island advantage in fact taiwan was especially vulnerable in the early days of the pandemic with hundreds of flights going to china every week making its success in the fight against cove it all the more remarkable. massive. joyful faces this year taiwan's private rate was more than a showcase for the island's liberties but also its achievement in containing

coronavirus it seems to relate to many others around well as do severing from the outbreak but here has never been any kind of lock down people have gone through more than 200 days without a low coach's mission record. jason long a public health expert from stanford university has been studying the taiwan model since the early stage of the pandemic travel twice from the us to taiwan this year one of the things that i noticed immediately is how serious. they take the corn team procedures and so they track you by sort of you say you are signals you'll fall the location where we will under going quarantine they will barely any signals . so we've got visited by the police and the public health department. speedy and strengthen border control is the most important key to success except residents

travel has special visas nobody is allowed to enter taiwan even though it's too late for regions like the u.s. and europe to stop the virus at the border the expert thinks that contact tracing quarantine and universal must still relevant lessons that should be learned from taiwan just because you you have lockdowns that they release people and they would laugh being these people does not necessarily help dana is a pretty critical. data coming from peskin or or or you know data coming from. individuals. they tracing and that needs to be standardized. in order to mount an effective response was successful in finding them have a. not only buy their purses public health but also the economy here i will mention make it one of the all economies in the world to expand this year with around 1.5

percent g.d.p. growth forecast. over the $0.90 just as you were now running more sustainable ways to step forward and some scientists including a chisel will and those a local professor. suggest to do with authority or would be qualified to be open exporter in the near future we can come up. kind of for me that we can. shorten the coroutine base by increasing. for the more you know cost. the better up and distribute it we still need this they hope that machine credible travel bubbles tunnelling concerns and other example to the 2 world into a new normal. joining us is dale fisher professor of and sexist diseases at national university of singapore adel one thing i keep hearing is that taiwan is

a small island new zealand is another example and that what they're doing can't really still up for europe or the united states what's your take on certainly very difficult the countries you mentioned likewise china thailand vietnam there's like a 0 tolerance policy if you are trying to eradicate if they have any cases they have to be a lockdowns massive testing. and really try and get back to 0 that's that's their strategy. and so do you think that the strategies that taiwan has employed would be able to then cross over and be used by the united states which clearly the government there has not really employed a lot of the strategies that we see in taiwan. i don't think it would be feasible i think it's especially at this stage of the outbreak i don't believe

people would be tolerant of the imposition the these policies have very good for health but they really take to get cases to 0 but but it really means a lot of vigilance a lot of locked down tight border controls these types of things and we know these have major economic and social impacts. i think a more reasonable model that you might compare for europe in asia might be that same by other countries sorry europe and the u.s. would be seen in other countries in asia such as singapore malaysia south korea. hong kong japan these countries tolerate cases even tolerate clusters but but try and shut down these clusters they're going to very strong public health systems. but this allows for

a little bit more leniency in terms of the lock downs and the social restrictions and the intensity of mass testing that's the required when you when you have a case so that's a slightly different strategy which is a degree of of tolerance and if you like living with the virus what of course you can't you know no one should be prepared to accept is free flowing community transmission which is what's happening in in europe and in the states at the moment . you know one thing that you keep hearing when you look at what's happening in asia especially east asia is just that the people the citizens there are more obedient that their confusion culture makes them prioritize the collective over the individual that kind of a stereotype do you buy that argument looking at all the countries that you just mentioned. listen i think if if in any of these

asian countries if there was harsh lock downs and then it was unlocked and then there was mad spread and again large numbers of cases this and the need for more lockdowns i would say. that the same frustrations that we're saying from the communities in in europe and the americas you know i think you would see it in him in many parts of asia but the point is the the action was fast and decisive the public health systems were built up any lockdowns were minor and and brief and therefore there's trust in the government trust in the strategy and if you think about it europe did lockdown right now they are wearing masks so things that you thought wouldn't be tolerated before now are being tolerated syre so i don't think it's entirely cultural if it's not cultural then i

wonder if it's political on taiwan is a democracy china isn't singapore for that matter isn't i there do you think the form of government matters in the fight against the pandemic. i think what matters is the relationship between government health departments and the public and and we call it risk communications community engagement that that has that that's the number one pillar in any outbreak response. whether it's ebola or any type of infectious diseases that sprint spreading in a in an epidemic sort of way. you have to engage the people so that they don't understand how to protect themselves they can understand how to assist in the predicament because they're critical and in it no any less a way is covered 19 where it's community spread and how the community but this is

absolutely directly related to the outcomes. thank you so much for your time my pleasure. in myanmar the government has sent thousands of people to cope in 1000 quarantine facilities and the places are very much like prisons so much so that former inmates are counseling those doing time there to help them cope with confinement. isolation uncertainty life under lockdown in myanmar isn't easy before the spirit souls motivational talks like this have been comforting who better to understand them than these counselors who spent time locked away behind boss. the people and close contact with covert 900 patients have been confined to the quarantine center since the 1st wave of the coronavirus pandemic then we learned that they had feeling similar to us former

prisoners since they long for a visit is people to talk to. only kill himself spent 9 years behind bars and a $990.00 s. as a political prisoner together with around 20 colleagues most of them former detainees has offered counseling at dozens of corn consensus the volunteers say it's important to address the psychological impact of the pandemic. we already have people will kill themselves due to mental health issues even though they won't die from covert 19 we've seen reports of suicide cases because of the quarantine. during the pandemic myanmar has had as many as 45000 people in quarantine at one time the counselors say the pandemic is compound an existing issues many already face to precious of poverty and now they have to worry about infection and social

stigma eddie. another form of stress is that they get blamed by their neighbors if they're infected they feel guilty when all of a stress comes down on them they depressed angry traumatised and discriminated it. has all been obvious if you watch it with. the counsellors want to let them know they are not alone in feeling isolated and that there will be an end to the confinement. that's it for now be sure to check out our other stories on d.w. dot com for asia or on facebook and twitter we leave you with pictures from india of preparations for dolly the hindu holiday known as the festival of lights thanks for joining us we'll see tomorrow the by.

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running rampant in these tight quarters or should doses go to frontline workers who put their lives on the line like here at a testing station in frankfurt. questions remain especially on the news that brazil has suspended its trial of a chinese candidate vaccine there are no easy answers. welcome to the show all this week we're talking vaccines and covert 19 on monday news broke that there could be a vaccine by the end of the year and america's pfizer germany's biotech were 1st to announce successful data from a large scale clinical trial of a crowded virus vaccine they say it's more than 90 percent effective where not going to be able to rely on just one vaccine to inoculate the world and then came the unfortunate news brazil's health regulator has stopped clinical trials of chinese corona vac organizers of the trial say it was a death that it was not related to the vaccine that

starts on those developments with henry because professor of bioethics near i.r. near if that were the result of the death were linked to the trial how ethical would that make it. excellent trial doesn't depend on whether something bad happened trial drafters it's just last year the craft should work and while those in advance and he thought everything was done to ready keep that risk commit more now wouldn't necessarily indicate any problem designed. but a participant a being exploited. so they are being offered your. car being in areas of how transmission of call we're very dangerous so our can't kill. people in those areas you're taking

risks because our my people who will use this scene after being proved see in these more operations. is still there are still carrying on the safe. because. it's a. reasonable date and they're very they're already dropped but we mention one corona vaccine being very successful one less successful there there are hundreds in development right now but what is the most ethical way of testing a more promising one then a less promising one. you know we don't know. which books seem successful it's not but it's a bit like when the elections after half an hour of his own things will change. when there are signals that want to seem more promising than another it may be

tempting to say always not ok to compare them and work each other because we're offering. that point less promising a list promising not to remember the election is. just briefly why is it important to test vaccines on the continent or country in which they're to be used. well it's actually very important for the country and its population is not easy. but this is. actually predicted by the even worse it's also important for the inhabitants of death actually to know this. in people who are traditional and environment need genetic characteristics and it will also not that good reacting can. you know we kind of we will be getting seen. so there was a treat to be a lot for it seems drugs ok new stay where you are we'll return to you later in the

show 1st of all biotech and pfizer have sparked a surge of optimism but the unsung heroes of this tale of the thousands of unpaid volunteers taking part in clinical trials many in latin america however it's not clear when latin americans will actually get the vaccine. insall paulo biotech researchers have already tested the vaccine on hundreds of people either with an active ingredient or placebo latin america is one of the world's main vaccine testing grounds largely in brazil volunteers are not allowed to talk to the media their own paid for many of the attraction is that they will at least be vaccinated by taking part of. our test subjects and not just health workers they're also ordinary brazilians who have to get up early to take the bus or subway for hours to get to work they get to go to those ports recuperating. brazil is the country with the 2nd most coronavirus related deaths in the world to the people here feel like

guinea pigs in a lab. they need to question there's a risk that's unavoidable when testing the vaccines and. monday's announcement showed the biotechs research was more advanced than any of its competitors vaccines the german company stressed the test results were early and still incomplete or could it there was give us we believe that this vaccine from mind to be efficient it will probably be one of the most important vaccines in the world. another german pharmaceutical company cure of attack is also testing a vaccine in latin america. in panama the high infection rate among the population makes it easier to get speedy results. the panamanians are hopeful that the cooperation will allow them to manufacture the vaccine itself later technology transfer in return for helping with the testing phase. in fact upon a mers working together with the german vaccine company certainly gives our country

a competitive advantage over other countries. is also testing in peru. for the inhabitants of the poor area bella vista del mirador the testing process itself is not the main issue for them it's simply about surviving the pandemic the people here fear they will once again be left behind when it's time for the vaccine to be given out. but i doubt that ruffian government will provide us with the vaccine here it's almost impossible we feel forgotten. the now very real prospect of a vaccine this year is largely due to the contribution of people like the residents of bella vista mirador but when latin america will get the vaccine remains unclear . well something else that could speed up the process of finding a successful vaccine a human challenge trials hysteric williams on that. other countries do their own challenge trials now have been you kerry has announced it's

doing so. challenge trials involve intentionally infecting organisms with a pathogen but find out how well vaccines or medications work at stopping that application there are thousands track method for determining safety and efficacy and we conduct them all the time usually on animals especially primates but in ethical terms human challenge studies like the one proposed in britain can be pretty charged if the plans are approved starting this january researchers there will be going to liberate lee infecting young healthy volunteers with sars cove to initially to find out how much of the pathogen it takes to make them infected once the scientists have determined that they can begin giving other volunteers vaccines then subsequently challenging their immune system with that preset dose of corona virus to see how effective the vaccines are doing things this way can provide

precise data quickly so it can really speed up the development process that's because instead of just giving a late stage vaccine candidate to thousands of volunteers and the placebo to thousands of others and then basically waiting to see what happens researchers have a lot more control over the entire process but they don't have control in one key area because we still don't have sure fire therapies to treat someone if an induced covert 19 infection turns severe the possibility that a human challenge trial could cause of volunteer long term damage or even kill the . that can't be ruled out despite those risks britain is apparently not the only country to consider conducting human challenge trials according to the science journal nature at least some exploratory planning has commenced in belgium and the

us as well. ever turning to our professor of bioethics near what's your take on human challenge trials. i think that charles quite distinct from what we've discussed so are our regular fuel rods john rawls are also in my view and cooled down it's a consensus you wouldn't the one of the experts earlier john rawls would be. your view because there is although they exist remain low were the craft that everybody except such as dr keating to me. or you this case were doing did not throw out burst forth with the fortunes of being put at risk but the whole hundreds and thousands and millions of people if we can get to the scene faster i think it's on balance justified within 4 percent of courtiers in what ways

can they help speed up the development of a vaccine. in multiple ways in a few problems you're waiting for people to get exposed to the virus that sometimes or who have it it has not happened in some of the early drugs or a viper room virus in the u.k. it has happened in the trial so are other types of us carriers in china so if there would be enough. virus in a regular trial we would know for many many months. to get the person off the job problems to whom they were being fair people the flip side of this is then normal the worst school and you can find within weeks their results there are also other things you can find out you can you know exactly where you infect them so you

can assess. your h.-a prediction you can assess very accurately the exact mechanism through which the system predicts stills in the scene we're so it's very very. well bioethics professor thanks for being a live show today. and there is by watching.

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play . this is the w.'s line from palestinians warren sapp at a cat following his death from 19 it was an architect of the 2 state solution with israel who saw his dream of statehood fade with time passing palestinian ambassador to germany about life and legacy. also on the program the world welcomes news of a krone virus vaccine that appears to work safely so is this the turning point in the fight against the pandemic will put out the world health organization. and azerbaijan celebrates a truce that seals its games from the fights ago over disputed nagorno-karabakh in

armenia people still protesting over tough terms accepted by the private. i'm phil gayle welcome to the program. longtime palestinian chief negotiator saeb erekat has died of cover at 19 at the age of 65 for nearly 30 years he championed palestinian statehood as a solution to the conflict with israel but his goal has not been realized palestinian president mahmoud abbas that described mr erekat passing as a huge loss for palestine and for our people and declared 3 days of mourning. he was known and respected around the world sound era kept at the heart of middle east peace negotiations for almost 3 decades. but never wavering from what he

saw was the only way to end the israeli palestinian conflict a 2 state solution. we need peace. and it's going all in be achieved on accordance with the formula for 2 state solution eric cat was a loyal aide to palestinian leaders including yasser arafat. he spent most of his life in the occupied west bank in must in the daily realities of the arab israeli conflict. but at times he was treated like a hero by his own this is the with the right to wing israeli leader binyamin netanyahu apparently destroying hopes of palestinian statehood erekat and others in his fatah party became increasingly unpopular at home. he didn't hide

his contempt for u.s. president donald trump's peace plan for the region. this is not a plan of peace this is the scandal and the fraud of the century son barack half was taken to this hospital in jerusalem several weeks ago after contract ink over it 19. his widow where arriving soon after his death was announced. and was overjoyed to hear. the 3 days of mourning have been declared across the palestinian territories. as many remember a man known for his humanity as much as his politics. let's talk about both with dr hello divests is a palestinian ambassador to germany welcome to day doubly how would you describe as a cat's contribution to the palestinian struggle for self-determination. well

he. lists lee devoted his life the last 40 years. to or that this process. he never got if. even and there were there all the challenges facing health problems he began may not only the. dominant fears in palestine all over the word but also in palestine. he knew every little detail about the peace process and he was very key in and truly believe that. peace is doable and the palestinian state and independence there. is a must and peace that can be made there for all in the region and what do you think this right is across the table made of. well

i think he was even if this task of negotiation over for the kids was not very popular or begin not to talk you live. with time without you know the living and now what that has been there they go are leading good to peace and so on independence day it even though i hear insists they take dedicated devoted all his efforts on the international all international forums. it is his voice for the rise of the palestinian people for this sense that their mission of the palestinian people so at the end even if his cause was very much challenging and and he was attacked at all levels he was able to maintain and a very good and. and that people how to understand his work and

his. very. unpleasant job and go shooting with the israelis without much progress i'm going to say he was a man as well as a politician and a negotiator what sort of man was he. yes he was in man of difficult tasks and he took this challenge and. he had this is a support of many but has many friends all over the word so it is not only a great loss for us palestinians it is a great loss for his family for his wife who supported him all the way and his children but also of for all his friends and partners all over the world including he did in germany so i believe that his word was much very much appreciated and from the condolences and you know. cause we become.

every since the morning we believe that it is that it is appreciated not only and palestine but also where whites so given the significant role that he's played in those negotiations are over the decades what sort of gap does he leave behind where does his death that leave negotiations between israel and palestine. yes it is very sad to look at him but it is. much more sad for us today that he's leaving us in a very critical time he's leaving us with many challenges we have been facing over the last. years. especially with you know with the beginning of the administration so i i think he even if you

really believe that he will live. there free palestinian state with. as its capital he left us without realizing his dreams and this makes us very sad but we believe that we learned a lot from him this is ilya his strength is that i had list and i think today we are more as. ever before to continue on his part to believe that there will be a day of freedom. for palestine and for the region and we have to take his legacy and continue on his past until his dreams become true well we thank you for joining us dr doctor who died bess the palestinian ambassador to germany talking about the death of south africa at. the

leading figures in science and politics have been welcoming news of a coronavirus vaccine that's demonstrated 90 percent to africa c. and appears to be safe germany's a biotech and us from a search was john to pfizer i think giving more details of the latest trials a very experimental drug if health authorities give the green light the vaccine could be in use by the end of the year. it's somehow fitting that beyond takes headquarters in the german city of mines is located on a street called at the gold mine because the german biotechnology company along with its american partner just may have struck it big. as a result showing that after an interim evaluation the vaccine is able to prevent infection with over 90 percent probability. so. if the results are confirmed the vaccine would be a major breakthrough in the fight against covert 19 researchers were delighted with the initial results. to see this is been the best news that we've heard out of the

medical industry since the pandemic began. these vaccines are of course being developed very quickly at the moment but we've had a considerable group of people who have now been vaccinated and they aren't showing significant side effects this is something that gives us hope because he has held the so-called m r n a vaccine works genetic information from the corona virus is brought into the human body by our messaging molecule the body then uses it to produce viral proteins against which the immune system forms antibodies those antibodies should then defend against covert 19 the drug may have been developed in mines but the effort to develop a vaccine against covered 19 is a truly global one hundreds of people would be on take laboratory in sao paulo brazil have already received the vaccine and they're just one group of among 44000 volunteers involved in testing worldwide most of the volunteers are in the americas

but there are others in europe and africa the company says so far there have been no serious side effects. it's important that we test the vaccine on people from different regions. and different ethnic groups. to make sure that any possible side effects don't vary for people with different ancestry. beyond taken 5 and now planning to apply later this month for emergency use approval in the u.s. even if it all goes well authorities have stressed it's unlikely any vaccine will arrive before the end of the year. let's get more on this from a world health organization spokesperson dr margaret house who joins us from geneva

welcome to day doubly dr this sounds like the solution we've all been waiting for. it's an encouraging signal. and it's encouraging for all the vaccine developers who are a little as you may remember everybody jumped into this right from the beginning and they've been doing extraordinary work and we've got at least 10 that are in this last stage and we hope that out of this we'll indeed have 2 or 3 candidates that we can deliver to everybody in need of it i would being told that this drug is 90 percent effective explain to us what that means. so with the cat i should say i have not seen the downtown but essentially it means that you've given the facts seen 200 proof got a dummy vaccine and another group of vaccine you're testing and you look at who gets the illness in this case kind of 19 and they've had 94 cases

of 19 in this group so then they go back and look and say ok which group were they in with in the group that exact same or within the group that got. the vaccine you're testing and if in fact they were mostly in the group that got the dummy vaccine that tells you you've got high efficacy and in this case their calculations of it over 90 percent so this is all something very promising so let's look at the next stage of the stage once this is actually out there once a vaccine is devout and available for distribution does not mean it's only going to be vital for the rich countries that can afford it not at all in fact much of our work is involved in setting up something called the kind of texas elicit we have a very big program of getting not just sex scenes but all the drugs and the tests and everything else people need part of that isn't hearing that all countries don't

have access to it and the people whom i still need look at it 1st and by that i mean the health care workers the people who run this 3 day exposed to this farce every day risk and of course they are also the people who protect all of us when we get it they fight for around our lives ok so just i mean treat by by how that's actually going to work because if you have you have the rich countries who say yes we want 6000000 doses of this stuff when you have the poor countries who say well what about our so who is issuing that they get so. so remember we're working with all the different groups developing many many scenes and as i said earlier wed looking to having been one candidate vaccine and some will be more appropriate in different groups than others you know some maybe one dose one some maybe 2 dose so but essentially i think your question is how are we going to make that happen and through the kind of accessibility the very good news

is the majority of countries around the world have signed up to that and agreed that the rich countries will pay for that scene but support the poor countries to also be able to afford it and have it right to talk to you thank you so much for joining us now dr margaret harris from the world health organization. but when it comes to tackling this pandemic sweden has been one of europe's out lies a swedish leaders have rejected lockdowns relying instead on public trust in their recommendations but infections are increasing and the country says now see nearly 146500 confirmed cases last friday brought a record 4700 new cases more than 6000 people have died as more than 20 times the death toll in neighboring norway and nearly 10 times that of denmark. praised by it says.