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on from the starting off is always tough to think of something who is single it's estimated there are around 20500000 singles in the german language use of europe into the internet romance, but together wonderfully. as opposed to the positive thing is that you get out of your own bubble and meet people you wouldn't meet otherwise. some times used to be the chances of clicking with someone have increased from you. if you wait for happiness to fall into your lap, you can wait forever. any place any time, quick and simple. for initial contact and digital link isn't enough. and the choice seems infinite to me, more than 2500 platforms are available for searching for the perfect match of the
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what and is a big help in reading at the nonstarters? people looking for a mate are spoiled for choice these days. there's a platform for every need. quick sax secret affairs, or a life long bond can be sought on weren't. many people are active on several platforms, like 37 year old sarah. she lives in vienna and has been single now for 6 years. many ups and able the 1st selection to be made from a photograph, while g.p.s. indicates who lives in the vicinity. if you like what you see, you swipe to the right. if it's a no go you swipe left. if both parties are interested, it's a much on the chat gates open. mind one just to say i me and a fix that i'm actually looking for a steady relationship. starting with the desire for someone who really wants to
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open up and spend time with me. who wants us to open up to each other and do things together and then see where it goes from. there are times when few it does more and more people are using online dating services. the figure for germany is 9.6 percent, and austria brings up the rear with 6.3 percent. in addition to smartphone apps were choices made on the basis of a photo. there are also much brokers because it's a lot of question in a computer program that works and who might be a suitable partner in calculations lay the foundation for him over you know, and then i find profiles where i think wow, i just have to get to know him, i've got this feeling i've simply from the photos and 5 written statements. and yes
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she does. but that's a very, very rarely happens. and still in reality, it's often confirms when we 1st meet up with i've got a feeling i can guess pretty well. i know what i like about a man, and i sense quickly if it's there, a man and a citizen can know that unfortunately, that doesn't mean things will necessarily end positively. they just say you're not dating enough. believe me, everyone is just overjoyed when i send them on the day. because dating is worse than brushing your teeth. dating is like learning vocabulary. everybody wants to speak a foreign language, but nobody wants to sit down and do their homework. we ask sarah to take advice from one of the countless stays in coaches who flood the market known as the date.
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dr. emmanuel albert gives flirting with dating tips on t.v. and social media. channels and sure is just 2 to 5 euros a minute. in other words, between 120 and 300 euros an hour as we're going out there. so in speaking to them is just as important as online dating. even more important when you're dating back to back and forth like maybe you'd like this woman. maybe she'll respond, maybe not. so i always say speak to your common people come to me are a real mix of a few more men than women, but the break down is around 60 percent men to 40 percent. women on the things are very similar when it comes to the ability to build a relationship. that's a big issue today that people no longer committed so easily is going to be thought harder to find a relationship. in this respect, the tips i gave a very similar but when it comes to speaking to something, getting to know someone, your new men need
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a lot more courage to take that step. you have to give them some work to take a more direct approach in the self-styled date, doctor provides digital to analog advice in the search for a part of your every move he says can be a ladies man, don't be shy, just practice practice and practice. more of the one half of the rovers are clear. the man this the predator by the prick. we can fudge it a bit. take the famous 33 kilos. 3 set demeter's 3 years and still just fine. we need classic answers to classic a stupid questions like. so what are you doing here? how long have you lived here? because we don't want to say, i've been here 10 years and no 2000 guys. and wow, i saw you and thought we might hit it off. then it means it will lead us to men. i
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think about how men stretch the truth. it's mostly about how tall they are. i'm a fairly small person. so in my case, they didn't need to the bought tire of as often as i sometimes they lie about their age to off or they try to pose as someone who's looking for a serious relationship. but really, but then they don't follow through and it ends faster than the national imus and asked for all out of it. since women cheat to me included, i miss the sleep of it's because of my age. found in my experience, the older a woman is the less attractive she just because of the number that showing it might afford us. my pictures are all real and up to date only for i know that i
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look younger than my age. so i'm not embarrassed to say i'm younger than i really am. i make myself about 4 years younger max, obviously, and i do tell them that when we 1st meet. so just imagine you speak to 5 men every week. could it be that one was nice and you had 2 or 3 good chats with someone you never see again, but with whom you had a good time. someone that has things in common with you, or a buddy for whom you might not have feelings or love or tall. people underestimate what can happen when you speak to someone every week. you're setting a foundation and then building on it as us online dating, underlying where online dating is concerned. he does have certain pointers to give what i give them to any of my girlfriends, anyone personally, i find them all rather obvious. but if someone is just starting off with online
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dating and feels they need advice, certainly they can talk to him. but i do think that for other people it makes sense . today choosing the right partner is a crucial cost benefit calculation. just like choosing the right job or apartment dating calls for self optimization and promotion. it takes time and effort. just the date when i say i'm dating someone, then it really means work. want to move to people. i want to open up to that person and do lots of things with them. if you desire to pursue my promise and feel of a move, many use the word dating to describe always meeting someone new. and in that case, i would say the work is more superficial and you need to make sure that you've got lots of time inside the house. is a historian at harvard university. she's researching the cool true history of
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dating work describes the search for a partner from the start of the 20th century. and so today we caught up with her for a new to the question, were invited to speak at an international conference when i was researching the book, i would talk a lot to people when people learned i was writing a book about the history of dating. they would tell me about their own dating lives, and often i would notice this language of exhausted. you know, this language of feeling exasperated. what i mean by that in my book is that dating, which is sold as a kind of consumer activity or fun, is related to what we think of as real work and at least 2 ways. 1st. it absolutely is a kind of economic transaction and always has been on dating apps. we should be desirable commodities and surprise the competition. it also requires people to work on themselves and i don't know how well these idioms translate, but in english,
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all these expressions we have for courtship are market expressions. so you're on the market off the market. damaged goods is not nice, but a thing people say hard to get. so this idea that you're trying to shape yourself as a kind of commodity that you're selling on the dating market and you're simultaneously shopping around for someone else. this is something new in the historical period i'm talking about, and it's something that makes people feel a lot of pressure to work on themselves and leslie in the uk market music neighborhood, we're meeting so germany's most famous couples therapist. this work has given them firsthand experience of the challenges and problems involved in the digital search for a partner in this new department and getting to know people, new potential partners is
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a lot easier for those who have the courage to get involved on the digital dating scene at the same time, it's also scarier victus, in the final analysis. it creates a totally new, previously unknown situation. you're only able to orient yourself in the unimaginable number of possible relationships. and this was much more restricted earlier and wasn't stimulated to the point that a person was unable to say, oh, now i finally found some way and i'm glad about it. instead, they're wondering, is it ok to stop now? after all that, there could be a better offer. alphonsus who, one day said this on people would keep. and because everyone involved is searching for someone. everyone's wondering if there could be something better out there. that all of us who can sin which promotes a feeling of chronic insecurity. grown is one bit extreme.
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you become extremely and different. a lot more superficial than you really are. and i probably have to, i've become a more superficial person. the ball i unfolded up, it only takes one photograph in the mix to make you think. maybe he's not the right person. then you immediately swipe to the left. which of course means he's gone to vic. i commence or is a 6 and couples therapist. recently she began to answer questions about sex on dating apps. she believes digitization has changed the way we get to know one another under sexuality. she warns of an over sexualized society. today we live in a kind of paradise. the table has been set before us and we have an amazing range of choice around the clock and usually free of charge. our next partner for a lovely evening can be quickly found on our smartphone or g.p.s.
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. perhaps already at the next bus stop or in the same train. these days, the 1st topic to be discussed is sex. people don't see if they can actually speak to each other, you know, someone's sexual preference before you know their name. and sometimes you don't even know that you're in an anonymous fear. formable vailable opportunities were being released give an infinite freedom and we 1st have to learn how to handle it. be asked partner stop being a requirement for sex on long time ago. sex toys are growing in sophistication and are no increasingly intense experiences. i can muster warns of casual use of what she calls, tools for super stimuli. and what i've observed 3 major changes in my practice. 1st old sexual problems are coming in a totally new form. young man with a reptile dysfunction and men and women who can't achieve orgasm or
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a lack of enthusiasm for sex. they're said to be exclusive to women. but in the spirit of be quite men are now catching up slowly and over taking women. lack of last isn't their problem. lack of a desire for sex with a partner is somebody else there are qualitative changes to what used to be hard. core is now soft porn. things like voyeurism fetishism exhibitionism and b.d.'s them formerly seen as perversions have arrived in regular society. they are no longer seen as abnormal behavior. this is a given to the fact and then there are the quantitative issues. the gap is steadily widening between virgins who cater to themselves wonderfully in virtual worlds,
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who know everything theoretically, but have no practical experience. and those who tender from bed to bed. here is where we slip very quickly into porno and sex addiction. this applies to the virgins, as well as the promiscuity who can no longer find the off switch or who are unable to be intimate in a proper relationship by it's true for both. even those who tender from bed to bed and who actually try to run away as soon as the knickers drop. degassing good ol us of people i think are just as faithful or unfaithful as they've always been. but the opportunities for infidelity have increased considerably throughout the economic pressure on people to remain faithful has dropped enormously by the belief or the human. in the past, there be a letter or someone would be caught me having to do or a hotel bill for a double room in that suit jacket that went to the cleaners or the result was a jealous outburst in this heated argument. i mean affair would be downplayed or
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there would be a confession. and if you like through a break, a common. but the key that opens after checking someone's mobile home, reading the e-mails and seeing all the photos and all the facets of a relationship laid bare in the form of images and texts. well, that's a, specially when a partner had no clue. this is this, i feel has become a totally new kind of a relationship problem for the people who met online used to lie and say we met at the farmers market if they said would met online as well. have said, we got to know each other backstage at a sex shop or an ad in a hardcore magazine, and it would have had the
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same effect for about 1800, if you had told anyone anywhere in the world that what marriage is, is that you choose your favorite person and live just with them and any children you have for the rest of your life and that you should be together because it's your favorite person, your best friend. you also want to have sex with. people would have said you were crazy. 100 years before then moved into police and some of the rigid conventional marriage over the last of this deal. romantic love as the basis for the search for the right person, the big shift to greater personal freedom when time with most of social people.
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it's around the time of the industrial revolution around the time that men start working for wages that people start working in industrial jobs outside the home, all these massive social changes that take place around the time of the french and american revolution. we start to see these new family farms and this new ideal of romantic love, right? that people should choose their partner, the freedom of choice applied to men. only. women have to work her to advance by marrying a move from better circles, then begin the so for improvements culture once it ceases to be that men come to the woman's home, invited by her and supervised by her parents and becomes the case that men invite women out right, men invite women to go to a bar, dance hall or a movie. the courtship starts to take place in a men's world in the world of the market in the world of work. the story of do you think is also one of the mancipation. the 1st women to agree to go and dates workers in immigrants who would come to the city after the 1st world
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war, the wealthy began to delete as well. it was all the rage at the moment that i call the invention of dating, we also see the rise of many new kinds of social spaces where young people can mix and meet one another. these include dance halls. these include movie theaters, these include boardwalks, or you might go out. i talk about these as a kind of analog or real life social media because like our social media today, there are sites that bring people together and facilitate certain kinds of interactions. so a bar that you go into is set up for you to me interact with people in a specific way. way that's not totally dissimilar to the social media. we rely on so much for dating. today. online dating is a voodoo economics who's estimated 3400000000 euros.
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with me, wolf is one of the founders of tinder. now the best known, do you think platforms worldwide its clients choose partners on the basis of photos? yes. bush has turned her back contender and the rooms are all bright yellow, and part another drifting up cold bill wolff is often referred to as the dating queen because as they like to see, she revolutionized online dating we didn't really think about it as a rebel. what a revolution on dating, i think it was really getting people access to people in ways they had never had access to each other before. so if you think about it, traditionally you rely on being at the right place at the right time, or having a friend in your duty to someone else. so you have very limited options and when you meet, you don't have access to see who's in the building next door and have the opportunity
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to meet them if you want to. there's just never has existed. that's not quite true concerns and it's not easy, not for unions beginning the 1st system to keep people who was already on the market. 3 years ahead of tinder on the wrist finder is still a step ahead today. its cooperation with the dating community to fight racism and discrimination by using humor to make users aware of marginalizing profile texts. that contrasts sharply with many for sexual dating apps, where users are made to feel that such social pressures to exist. i think the best thing you can do online dating is use that as a platform to truly be yourself. so in real life, there's a lot of pressure to maybe fit in with your colleagues or your friends or to fit
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a certain role and try that. be something every dating up needs, something that makes it unique to learn clients who want to date, especially women to the platform. but the marketing pitch is centered on feminism, and the 1st step of many can be much is for women only with the world carefully maintains her image as a powerful woman. yet on our social media home pages she sooner brits are so few would have sung and she threw for them of herself as a looks real housewife. while she permits the world to share their jet set lifestyle. of course she also, punters who took knology, could be used to make the world a better place. so, technology just gives people a platform to behave in another format, right? but there's something people in there still, you know, reacting to their psychological triggers. and if you think about the way we've
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raised men and women globally, men have constantly been get been given the, the pressure to go after women, to chase them to get them. and when there is this pressure to go get something, you're going to be rejected. oftentimes, and if you think about the psychology of rejection, it's very powerful, rejection leads to obsession and aggression. and so when you reject somebody, and that person has the ability to hide behind a profile, and there's no government to control the consequence of bad behavior. you are left with a lot of abusive behavior. tend to make people tinder promoted itself by claiming the done away with the pain of rejection. because you don't even notice when you've been deleted on the big but of course, that's not the case. the pain simply comes later
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sheesh if someone has got their hopes up, then they're likely to get hurt even more deeply. but most of just times we should feel hopeful and get marked out. because they found they've been discarded when the other person is found something better. hope this form of rejection is known as ghosting. simply disappearing happened in the past to digital communication. contacts are just as easy to the broccoli as they were to establish many fears that digital is causing this and 3 months. people claiming that the telephone ruined the dial up phone, the one that our grandmothers and grandfathers use. people also claim that the car ruined romance. because back in that time, the parents would be involved when they're there, when they're kids at the age of marriage, whatever that means now started dating that they would be there,
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they would accompany them they would be involved in the car, could take you away. so this is just technology and this is innovation in this is, this is innovating culture. it's not destroying it. it's giving more access card changed lives that lets you get from point a to point b. and want to explore your love life and your relationships so much better. the telephone of course, life changing and these platforms to connect with people are also like life changing to be all that to me says sean he does. oh. what we've seen is with online dating too. so that the relationship is romanticized artificially. so i was just about to cancel my car ship subscription, so to speak, when i found you and ticked and then i lost interest in everything else with this interest if i was under for the war that i think still represents a deep yearning scene. so i was using hardship and did the psychological test,
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but beyond that for 20 minutes, you have to answer questions like do you like raisins or do you often wet the bed as a child? in the end you are one of 3 kinds of people. i'm only 10 percent intellectual and only 10 percent emotional on through 80 percent of me is passion driven so i don't think our ship is so great. i see my like flattering psychological test results better. what is more cost $60.00 euros a month? or is it cheaper for straight people? this is one burke. there's just one red house and the street.,
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this is where she'll go. schneller laughs. now 88 years old in the 1960 s., the psychologist developed the 1st matchmaking test for a magazine and later notorious par ship test as well. 80 questions and a top secret oh, good rhythm and designed to help someone find their better half in the war. i'm arrogant enough to say that my characterization of a person is fairly accurate. if it's slightly off, that could be because he or she didn't want to stance or study or maybe answer in a way that they thought would be more acceptable or give them an attractive characteristic that they don't really have the best of course, self perception and the way others see us can diverged greatly if there's bit with us fred beard. but that's a problem across the board of your mind,
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not just one that's exclusive to partial. people can have a totally skewed self-image. shitz. the high praise for payment platform is one of the leaders in the german language dating world. the freeman, such as importance to being beyond comparison with tinder and other online services, partial says its core and unique selling point is the true serious scientific magic test, which includes questions like do you sleep with the window open, long term relationships generated from zeros and ones who wants a bit of romance, professor has a tip internet or implementing best? the internet and romance go wonderfully together. like put 2 candles next to the computer and you've got romance, even when you're searching or filling out a questionnaire. and one of the, oh, munty romance is wonderful,
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but it's in here. and you can also get manufactured romance on the internet coming off an internet visit today. every toothbrushes, ordered online, it arrives in the mail mine. so we've gotten used to the idea of finding a partner this way. that's been the hot. why not at home? and if we do everything with these electronic busy boxes, maria clients who has been in the love business for more than 40 years because they're good friends of mine now overseen. i'm a father to begin with. there were matchmakers and dating agencies. then the dating sites shot on to the market and i'll put it this way. we had a bit of a famine. sometimes i really wondered when i would just close up shop kind of when
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i would no longer be able to live from that. but over the course of time that changed again, suddenly it's bounced back. i wouldn't say people are leaving the dating platforms, but they're coming back to me. more often. the good old dating agency is a relic from the pre-computer age, stuck with file cards neatly sorted according to name in cold profession, and naturally social status and family background. and also selects possible partners by heart, which of course increases the cost for the client. after all here, the weaves is separated from the chaff in advance and i don't know, i lit up by my feeling is 3000 euros for younger clients rising to 67 or 8000 depending on the degree of difficulty. it's like that might sound
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a bit strange, but if someone is rather special, then the search for a suitable partner is more complicated to off to the fifty's and not to say everyone who comes to me can make suggestions based on the existing clientele. and, but when i notice that something is going a bit more special, then i go in search of the right partner. then maria klein says that she's made more than one photos botches. she's been in business now for nearly 40 years. and old school still she places and proper middle class newspapers and studios is this tried and true method just as she did in the past. as a vicious appearances always important, that's just the way it is. i always state quite clearly that a person barely falls in love with good character. since it's about a relationship, sex appeal is part of it. and that means finding the other person sexually
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attractive. this is an important aspect, and it's important as well that the 2 people are similar, have the same sense of humor and outlook on life. so they'll be able to understand each other when they converse. according to a study by a chinese dating platform for at least 5 percent of men, there is never lived that fits. they ended up on the digital back burner. even though for many years now, countless goods have been published, the book, the art of wooing, and the image secrets. you have to know one order to find your dream mate. the roles which men and women have to play in this part, they do remain unchanged. the woman is the possible objects of desire and the hunter. there's a book for men called the game and a book for women called the rules. and i think that this difference, you know, the game as a book all about how to make women feel desperate to sleep with you and sort of how
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to get disposable fast relationships. the rules are all about how women must never show what they want, but play this long game of tricking man into liking them by, you know, not calling when you want to, not sleeping on them when you want to making yourself seem inaccessible. and i think that the difference between the rules and the game really is sort of distills the ways in which the very old fashioned binary gender norms still play out in the dating advice literature. traditional gender stereotypes. i wanted all of that was here. this week for thomas schieffer elmiron ones, this dunce in school, which has been a business 1st century. it's the tinder of back in the day. and vienna, it's still traditional for youngsters to attend a dance course when they turn 60. 5 and release with me for she didn't like to came around. you get to know so many different people. a dance course is
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a great opportunity to find someone who is on the same wavelength, is that's why dance schools in particular, produce lifelong and deep friendships. not to mention humorous matches and even marriages even this me thinks through the by one of the key things about a dancing school, especially in our modern era, is that the 2 genders can meet naturally and honestly on a neutral ground. and learn to get along with one another without having to have any fear of touching literally. and it behooves ange to boston scene. it means that guns are after all, when they start the course, their own able to take up the correct dancing position. anyway. these are they all come with this built in personal space during the course of they get over this learn to approach each other and move in harmony together is see to me these are things which are also very important in life. see, the synth, the new, the in office,
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leave the obvious dixie and i along with the vienna waltz. good manners are part of the course curriculum. these are the golden rules of etiquette for men and women. most of which date back to imperial times old film material of how or perhaps how not to kiss a lady's hand. some men take the lady's hand bow over it, and the kisses quite damp. making a lip smacking sound that not recommended. and some ladies pass up their good fortune when their hand is taken for a kiss. she doesn't want it and pushes her hand down hard. now, there are 2 types of men. are. those they give in and bend down to kiss the lady's hand and the other more energetic type. who says she doesn't want one yet? well then i'll use force and add my other hand and bring her hand up and there the
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cares. and the woman polls towards the matter from a kid, someone who meant to smartphones. because these days, even a smartphone is a constant companion of bowls in fear. it's a development the streets don't school director views with mistrust feet was the of with we focus so much on our mobile phones and all these other things but not on the people who are right next to us. and that's a major problem. the man, importantly my profile is just a one liner. it says on the 1st date, pay for all the drinks. yes. the longer i think he can be expected to paper things on the 1st date, you know, and see it as something it's that's worked so well that i send a disclaimer with my 1st text response. no cocktails, just beer and wine and no friends either. and i need to be allowed to sit at the
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same table and they always say, you don't get a 2nd chance to make a 1st impression. so when i go somewhere, i have to think carefully about the kind of impression i'd like to me. and i've got a list of icebreaker questions, like do you know, pretty or ugly when you're crying? and then this morning's love call. once the conversation has gotten going, you should try to identify the other person's interests. who can, you know, to disk, you please move through through the advice using the funnel that it would be a bad start with open issues and then slowly focus on a topic that interests the other person. you or what did your mom call your penis and help them human? because when someone is talking about their favorite subject, they'll feel at ease and open up. that way. of course,
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you get to know someone much better than if you present yourself as a special deal yourself with the course of the past and use of group think it's cool. it's a role that has lived in vienna for many years. he's already had one or 2 personal experiences with dating apps and says they provide perfect material for comedy. dating is common to the dating issue is brilliant for comedy because we live in a time when there are more and more single households. you know, an age when people work a lot and go straight home afterwards. so online dating as a way of getting to know a great deal about a person fairly quickly and being an invention of basically online dating is also embarrassing the pain as well. because within
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a short period of time, you're showing someone part of yourself and you mention and then and everything that somehow embarrassing has great potential to be something funny . but inside, because the truth is that the internet has replaced the big club, the workplace, and the church as the places where a couple 1st meet. today, it's possible to find like minded people worldwide at whatever disadvantage old with social inequality. according to a study, more and more couples have the same level of education, and one factor is universal to find. so when you have to work hard, you know what you want. keep refining your search and present yourself perfectly. well, how we work is becoming more flexible. how we look, if we could be more flexible to the ways we live are changing. people are living much longer. for instance,
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they're living much more precariously as well. i think many young people, you know, don't know where they're going to work in 5 years. i don't know where they're going to live. we don't have the same kinds of long term rangelands in many aspects of our social life as we used to. so i think that maybe what we're seeing with this shift, some more flexible definitions of relationships, people deciding that they want non-monogamous arrangements. this is actually a reflection of a profound change in our social structures that's taking place that's not just personal preference and then you get the digital tool that lets you do it. it's like a real deep chair change i just this fleeting hectic characteristic with everything taking place faster and faster is of course symptomatic of society as a whole because so it's reflected in relationships to what's needed is a kind of opposition or a sort of barrier and that we close ranks against the consumer society while our
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couple to find piece together and free from syria is where it's. we're tinder date in a cafe in downtown vienna. we want to know what leader swipe to the right. i mean, what appealed to me was that he immediately mentioned that he's not interested in one night. stands because he wants to get to know woman as a person can and we need to discreetly outside the coffee to find out how serious d.h. went. this is how there wasn't a maid go wow, feeling i think we'll probably have another drink and then depending on how late it is or how tired we are, i can easily imagine that well, perhaps go have a drink somewhere else. but that's all of us will both be sleeping in our own beds
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