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this is v.w. news live from berlin. i mean, it begins handing over disputed territory to azerbaijan, under a contentious peace deal. several districts in the go across the region come on to us, very controlled, but uncertainty lies ahead for those leaving their homes. also on the program, shocking conditions inside a naples clinic shed light on mismanagement and underfunding in southern italy health sector. we hear from a woman whose father died from covert 19 at that very hospital. 75 years
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ago, the nazi war crime trials began in their own, but they set a legal precedent on holding international leaders to account for that actions and laid the foundation for today's printable court in the hague. thanks for joining us. azerbaijan's army says it has entered the 1st of 3 districts to be handed back by armenia as part of a contentious peace accord. the agreement was brokered by russia and ended weeks of fighting over the disputed region in and around to go on a car. they got a call about mosques here in red is a region inside azerbaijan, but populated by ethnic armenians. they control the territory and the surrounding areas for decades. but in september, as erie, forces started an offensive to reclaim the do futa territory. quickly overpowering
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their, i mean ian counterparts under the peace deal. now the borders of the got of her back have been redrawn and armenian troops must leave the regions they've lost control of by december 1st, russian peacekeepers are being deployed there to oversee the withdrawal. a little earlier, i spoke to d.w. 1st on the devil issue, and in the year of ellen and i asked her about the consequences for armenia. well, when we were in the region of nagorno-karabakh, we saw that soldiers there were on the move. convoys of soldiers were leaving the area. today's district is one of 3 regions that is going to be handed over to control so far for the last decades, it's been under armenian control. and for people on the ground that handover is really emotional. they truly feel that they are losing a chunk of their homeland. they feel that they've been betrayed, and people are expressing that anger and desperation as they leave the districts
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that are being handed over. for example, in the car but charges strict, which is quite near yerevan. we saw on the road burning houses. people are basically setting their own fire as their own houses alight as they leave because they say that they don't want to leave anything behind. for us rajon early you have met some of the armenians whose lives have been up ended by the recent fighting. let's take a look. it's a joyful moment for some knighted after weeks of fear. now that the fighting in nagorno-karabakh has ended, hundreds of refugees are returning to their homes in step on a kid to every day. russian peacekeepers watch over the process. but not everyone has a home to come back to you to get it quickly and to her mother, i did go from the nearby city of shushi,
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which is now under azeri control. just like for many here to them. the recent peace deal is a betrayal. still we don't know what we will do and when we will live, we just came here because we have no other option. we don't have a home. yeah. i left everything behind in shoes. she a 2 bedroom apartment with everything in us. i didn't even manage to take any clothing with me. my neighbor's dog, some of my clothes, one of everything. and this is wash. i came here in with a population of just over 50000. people here think they could soon be dealing with up to 25000. refugees from nearby regions which are no longer under armenian control. i have prepared several hotels
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so that people can live there for now. while we start building more houses for people who have come from the regions all want to live in stock on the kurds. and we have to explain to them this isn't big enough to provide for everyone. we have to live in villages in other areas. even for those who didn't leave. traces of the recent war lurk around every corner. people in have gotten used to living in the middle of a frozen conflict. but after the most recent fighting, even that normality seems far away is preparing for the return of his children and grandchildren who left during the fighting. the windows of his building got blown out in a bomb blast for now, plastic sheets will have to do instead. the 65 year old says he and his neighbors lived in the basement for around 3 weeks. can still remember the fierce fighting of
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the 990 s. . i was machine gun fire, back and forth. this time it was really scary weapons. we have to start over now. we don't have anything. we don't have work either but we're going to do our best to live well. even with destruction everywhere. most people say leaving is not an option. even if has just gotten smaller, it will always be their homeland. but of course, one of them as sherman is still standing by in europe. and the russian peacekeepers have now been deployed. how they viewed in that region by the people in that region . while people here in armenia initially felt almost that russia had betrayed them during the 6 week war after all,
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armenia and russia are close allies and they also have a defense treaty. but vladimir putin, the russian president, had said that he would only intervene on armenia's behalf if armenia proper was under attack. but now that sense of betrayal seems to have shifted. we saw a russian peacekeepers in the carriage and also at monastery in charge district. and people there seemed to be very grateful for the presence of the peacekeepers. they were thanking them for protecting the monastery, which is now going to be and as a by johns control, as it were in territory, which is under control. and they even were giving chocolates and país to the russian soldiers there. so it seems that sense of betrayal has shifted particularly to the prime minister here in armenia. yeah, the armenian prime minister has been under a lot of pressure recently domestically own people just happy that the shooting is still. people are happy that the shooting has stopped,
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but they feel that the peace deal that nico pushing on the prime minister here signed was a betrayal. they feel that he, as people said to me, sold off their homeland. and there have been protests here in the air of on almost every day today. there are young protesters around the city, blocking off roads, calling for the call, touching on to resign. people have been chanting traitor. so far though, pushing on himself doesn't seem to be willing to resign. he has promised that 80 percent around 80 percent of his cabinet will go. and we've seen that happening in the past few days, including today, when the defense minister resigned just a few days ago, the foreign minister resigned as well. but it seems that passion and himself is willing to and is hoping to weather the storm despite those ongoing protests you don't usually serve in that, in that year of. thank you very much. i mean,
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the hong kong activist joshua wall has told you that chinese efforts to suppress the turtle's pro-democracy movement will not succeed. one goes on trial next week, facing charges of unlawful assembly and wearing a mosque during demonstrations last year. he has been detained repeatedly and could be sentenced to several years in prison if found guilty. we spoke to joshua wong there and asked him how he is preparing for next week's trial is what he said. it's not easy to handle the pressure as the one where being arrested for 10 times in jail for free times. and now i'm facing 6 charges within 3 court cases and perhaps time for them to jail be might come soon. but no matter what happens with the fly rate, assuming right, it was or is essential to restart them all. prissy off i would generation and the generation following us. so in the upcoming future, it's still important to keep on the fight,
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no matter urging the world to stand with the trout detained at home, call us, or how we keep on to seek for local and global community support. we just want to let the world to know that even the present possible exception is still also important to encourage the world to realize that the fight in hong kong for freedom as not. and yes, pro-democracy activists. speaking to d.w. earlier today. and of course, we will have coverage of his trial, which starts on monday. now let's take a look at some other stories making headlines around the world today. e.u. leaders fail to resolve the dispute over the block budget, poland and hungary veto the proposed budget over a provision to blockades. 2 countries deemed in violation of rule of law standards . about half of the 1.8 trillion euro packages, emergency funding for economies hit by the coronavirus pandemic. america's top
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public health agency. the center for disease control has urged americans not to travel for thanksgiving or spend it with people outside of their own household. over 1000 cases are surging in the u.s. and officials are concerned. the coronavirus could spread even more up italy between states. over the holiday period. germany has recorded its highest number of daily corona virus cases. more than 23 and a half 1000 new infections have been confirmed in the last 24 hour period. the institute for infectious diseases reports that 880000 people from across the country have now contracted 90 rise carbs, as germany continues to battle. the virus with partial lockdown tougher restrictions could be put in place when chancellor merkel meets with the heads of the federal states next week. to w.'s chief political editor has been
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following this story, joins us now. here despite a partial lockdown, germany keeps hitting record daily highs. is there any political consensus on where the tougher measures are actually needed? not quite. the german chancellor spectacularly failed in the last round to get tough on measures through with those crucial heads of the federal, state, syria, and many in the end decide which measures to take. next. there is always a delay. we've learnt this throughout the year to see what effect any kind of lockdown has. currently there's a hope, at least that we're seeing something like the plateau of the 2nd wave. but as we heard from mr leader, the head of the r k institute here in germany on infectious diseases yesterday. and it's a big hope you can't say fish saw,
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but we're out of the zone of exponential growth and that was absolutely crucial to get some kind of control back to at least be able to see people meet again. by the time christmas comes around your house. germany positioned when it comes to approving and rolling out vaccines. well, authorities have been told to be ready to start vaccinations by mid december, the german salsa herself. speaks of the end of december the beginning of next year when vaccinations have become available and then not just in germany, but throughout the entire region. there's also a big focus right now on testing whether we can have fast tests in time for that crucial christmas period. when everybody gets together here in europe to make at least that celebration safe. so we're on the final stretch towards vaccinations being rolled out. chief political. thank you mahela.
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a week ago, a video showing a man lying dead in a hospital bathroom sparked outrage in italy. the clinic in the city of naples that the patient was being treated for suspected corona virus infection. we have chosen not to play that particular clip, but we will show you scenes of the hospital struggling to cope. you'll also meet a woman whose father been fighting against mismanagement in the health sector and that was before he himself died of covert 90 only a few days ago, you have to lost her father to call that 19. she says it is still too hard for her to look at this photo. and it's not only her who's mourning, but the whole sunday town neighborhood in naples. francesco, to a total, was a well known here, a political activist who left his mark all over senator. just as many here will remember him as a fighter for better health care at this hour, what about this fight became the symbol of his death. my father died because of
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mismanagement of the health care system. one kilometer behind his house, the hospital was partly closed. so he fought for it to be operative again, if it's still been open, he'd still be here this week when he got sick from chest who had to had to wait for more than 2 weeks to be picked up by ambulance. when he got to naples to rally hospital, it was already too late. at about the same time this video filmed in the code 900 ward of this exact hospital caused consternation in italy with the recent campaign and its capital. naples were mostly spared from the 1st wave of the coronavirus pandemic in spring, only to be hit even harder by the 2nd wave. this doctor works in another hospital
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in the region, out of fear for his job. he doesn't want to show his face. he says that many untrained doctors and nurses have to feel in a sense that we can't assist all people in the probable way. even if we try we're also worried about being infected . our main issue is the lack of hospital beds and personnel. but this doctor simona says another problem. italy has cut down healthcare spending over the last decades. they're not enough family doctors, hospitals have been privatized to keep every imagine superman companions, historically overwhelmed by too much work. and family doctors are too busy to take care of 1000 patients in italy, self and naples in particular are economically far worse. so the richer north of
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the country mario compared to supports the left being majority in naples city council. it needs that local and regional authorities could have maybe avoided the crisis if they'd communicated better. and we are probably, if we do not sit out voices, when we requested more doctors, we would have gotten more and appear more trustworthy. bt the purchases campaign, you know, was put under lockdown far too late when her father got sick in mid october. life here and sunny. tell us this business always. she's sure her dad will be missed here. moments ago, one of them, when they were caught up in the south, you know what i would do. one of the reasons why everybody loved him as a politician is because they actually saw him doing things. sometimes he himself fixed the halls in the street with cement. we still have bags of cement in tarren hand. we don't know what to do with it at a party, and i want to take our father's case to courage. but he doesn't want to blame
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a single person, it's the system itself. she wants to be hold accountable from naples and it let's have a look now at some of the other developments in the corona virus pandemic. pfizer says it is asking u.s. regulators to allow emergency use of its covert 19 vaccine. it starts the clock on a process that could bring limited 1st doses as early as next month's pfizer and its german partner buy on tech have announced that its vaccine appears. 95 percent effective, preventing mild to severe covert 90 in india, the total number of people infected with cove it has passed the 9000000 mark. it's the world's 2nd highest number of infections after the united states, but the spread of the virus has showed signs of slowing down there. and the u.s. states of california and ohio have ordered residents to stay at home and avoid
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non-essential social gatherings between 10 pm and 5 am. the number of new infections is surging across the united states. u.s. president donald trump is due to meet with republican leaders from michigan at the white house later. as his campaign steps up its attempts to overturn the election results. a hand recount of votes in georgia. again confirmed that joe biden defeated trump. the president's legal advisors are promising to fill file more lawsuits even though the team so far only lost in courtrooms a press conference that's going to everyone talking, but for all the wrong reasons, rudy giuliani don't want trump's top lawyer offering more on substantiated claims of alleged phone to rigging, as he knocks under pressure. but this is not just sweat, even his hand die is dripping down his face,
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as he tries to convince reports is the us election result is a stitch up. and the reason to keep all these things together is precisely to avoid what the democrats did in this election, which is to misuse the absentee ballot process and the mail and process in order to cheat. but more bad news for the trump campaign out of georgia, a recount by hand of all votes has yet again concluded in the same result, a biden. when trump supporters may know how to get their message across. but the man has also suffered a number of legal setbacks as republican lawsuits in states from pennsylvania to arizona have been rejected. donald trump has even personally called state officials for support. he's also summoning republican legislators from
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michigan in another attempt to overturn the election result. president elect joe biden is losing patience. he will go down in history as being one most irresponsible presidents in american history, which is just out of them, not even within the norm of all those questions, whether it's even legal and even a handful of top republicans are now calling out trump's behavior. senator mitt romney tweeting. it's difficult to imagine a was more undemocratic action by a sitting american president. but for now, the trump team is refusing to back down no matter how this pantomime is beginning to look to the outside world. that's not a look at some of the other international headlines. u.n. agencies have called for a cease fire in ethiopia to help refugees of escape the fighting in the north of
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the country. thousands of people have fled the region with many seeking refuge in neighboring sudan, fighting began 2 weeks ago between ethiopia's government and rebels in the region. dozens of people are dead in central and south america. after hurricane iotas swept through the region, it struck nicaragua as caribbean coast on monday as a category 4 hurricane causing heavy rain and mudslides rescue workers continue to search for survivors. 75 years ago today, right after world war 2, the groundbreaking nuremberg trials were launched. with 24 high ranking members of the nazi dictatorship put on trial, they were accused of crimes against peace, war crimes, crimes against humanity and conspiracy. the judicial proceeding revealed the true extent of their atrocities and the word credible significant. for the 1st time in
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history, the rulers of a country were being held accountable for violations of international law. while none of the defendants in $145.00 would admit that personal guilt trials were fundamental and laying the foundations for today's international criminal court in the hague. while the w. spoke to 2 men, one auschwitz survivor and the other, the son of a nazi deputy, they told us about the impact that these tribunals still have on their lives. in 1944, peter gard. osh was 14 years old when he, his mother and his sister, were deported to the auschwitz concentration camp. one year later, at the nuremberg trial, he recognised some of the men who sent them to the gas chamber. it was pure luck that he survived but i followed the trial and felt great satisfaction, that at least the main were brought to justice by the allies. and that they finally
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received their just punishment. nicholas frank also experienced an unexpected end to his carefree childhood. his father, hans frank, was hitler's deputy in occupied poland. hans was one of the main war criminals dubbed the butcher of poland. nicholas was only 6 then. he was teased at school at school, some kids made up rhymes minister, minister gas canister. because i was the son of a heisman. mr. but that wasn't so bad. either one said to me, nicky, nicky, that was my nickname. your daddy will be hanged soon. so i just answered. yes. up until the very end, the main war criminals denied the systematic extermination of jews. they tried to deny everything and said they knew nothing. but during the trial,
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they were shown films of the concentration camps with the mountains of corpses. and afterwards, even putin himself was dazed. none of the accused at the nurnberg trial to credit for their actions. they pushed the responsibility up the chain of command. they said they only have bad orders. they blamed everything on hitler or himmler who were both dead by then. nicholas father was sentenced to death. he isn't 11 more death sentences were carried out on october 16th, 1946 at the movies. back then they showed not how they were hung, but how they lay in their coffins with the white and black stripes noose around their necks. and i thought they all deserved to wear that next time. nicholas hong, always carries
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a photo of his hanged father with him. and whenever he feels just a touch of pity for his dad, he thinks of auschwitz. and then he affirms the verdict of the nuremberg trial was just you're watching the news. here's a reminder of the top stories we're following for you. armenia has begun its hand over all several districts to azerbaijan, as part of a contentious peace accord. the agreement was brokered by russia and the end of weeks of fighting over the disputed region in and around the golf cart. that's it from me and the news team for now i'll have an update for you at the top off. the abos don't go away, stay tuned for in good shape. one of the topics there take good care of children. steve. remember you can always get all the latest news and information on the web
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going to subscribe to documentary, to welcome you in good shape coming up high heels. what do they do? 2 feet. beards a cozy home for germs and bacteria, and why some children's teeth are soft, of course. well, welcome to the brain. in good shape, there's a new disease bringing more and more children to the dentist the world wide. it's
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called chalky, with brown creamy brown patches and white spots on the teeth. it can even make the teeth crumble away. every child worldwide is affected, and the dentist a puzzling why? victoria and patricio brushed their teeth after every meal. then their mother makes them do it again. despite good dental hygiene, the 8 year olds, 1st permanent muller's were brown and cavity ridden. their baby teeth were perfectly healthy, but the new ones looked like this was only 6 when it became painful for her to chew. it hurt when i ate fleas came out later and eating candy hurt me too. i didn't like it
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when they were so brown. at least here in victoria both suffer from a condition called chalky teeth. dentists refer to it as i, age, or molar, incisor highball mineralization. the surface of chunky teeth is rough and discolored, their painful to touch, because the end now is only 110th, as thick as it is on healthy teeth. he just burst today. patricio ok, then you can lie down here. how are your teeth? good to protect the poor us and them along our teeth. patricius muller's are sealed with silver caps to me because i can eat drink hot and cold drinks without it hurting me. and yes, i scream. yes. and you so much when i do this, that ok to yes, this is a case, it's actually a bigger problem than tooth decay. we have more children with m.i.a.
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each than children with tooth decay. their parents can't do anything about it. so it's important that we let the parents know that because they often feel guilty and think their children haven't brushed their teeth well enough or that their kids' diets are unhealthy. and my age affects adult teeth. they form in the jaw during the period between a child's birth and their 3rd birthday. that's when calcium and phosphate build up on the teeth, which hardens their enamel, making them suitable for daily line. but m i n h, disrupts this process. d.n.a. animal remains tender and some teeth are already completely destroyed when they are up to. your normal claim is a professor of pediatric dentistry. who's researching the causes of chalky teeth all over the world. he's bringing attention to the spread of m.i.a. age. you could say it's
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a problem in all industrialized countries. europe is doing better, especially the scandinavian countries. that's not so surprising since the condition was 1st identified in sweden in 1974. the researchers remain on sure about the exact causes of chalky teeth, but they think it could involve the chemical by spino, a high doses of antibiotics, respiratory diseases, and vitamin d. deficiency. chunky teeth may arise due to the interaction of these and other substances. we have contact with some of them on a daily basis. by skin all day isn't plastic containers and tin cans. it can be transferred to food and then enter our bodies. chalky teeth remain porous and are especially susceptible to tooth decay. the only thing that can be done is to clean them very carefully. that includes brushing with children's
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toothpaste with fluoride and using florida salt in the kitchen. children 6 and up should use a mouthwash or a jelly with a high fluoride content. and glad to see that things are in good shape, again in 3 months and keep on brushing your teeth so well at home. with good dental care, even chalky teeth can last a lifetime. so what can you do if your kids have chalky teeth? all tips here on in good shape. and i sent medical peter out to dr. alex who knows everything about kids. hello, this is me. this is my camera. these are all my corporate groups, and this is dr. alex our global l.o.l. . let's talk about rugby teams. is there any new was about to what? of course this was our father was not
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a big main effect or risk factor that course of that. but there are many different risk factors, for example, something that a curious parry not to post that. so, for example, if you have like an oxygen deficiency during the birth, or if you have dioxin in breast milk or when the kids have infectious diseases. until the age of 3 years off to get antibiotics. they are also up. you want to get, talk of t. what if you have to mean the fish and, well the dentist can help to get a read off the hypersensitivity. so he can give the kids like some fluoride or cards and phosphate or other minerals that tops to use the sensitivity what and if the teeth like getting broken, we can put like a filling on it on at
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a different was torture of materials to keep the truth and also recover it to, to survive, which was also hyper sensitive, a team. another important topic scurries. what was the difference between talkative and tooth decay? while talking teeth, that usually only occurs to us in specific t.v. like to motorists and, and so sirs, that's why it's also called roller. concise are hyper but i say so because these teeth are less hyper, but i like size. that means like the animal has to submit structure because of different risk factors. and the carriers are curious because often infectious disease. so we needs the truth and we need bacteria from specific microorganism. and we need also substances like carbohydrates and sugars. and you also need time. and when this all comes together, that there was
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a team with our isolation process on the truth. and that causes the cavity carriers who want to do, especially true when there's a lot of care. it's. while it's often a reason that kids don't like to brush their teeth or let them get crushed from their parents. and so it's like a deficiency of the mouth and all the primary teeth, they are standing in the motor area quite tight together. so at best, where we often happening and into a dental coverage, i can show you on this model. so if they send a really tight and you don't take floss, cleaning in between, they can have a team on the side through going to be protected against it. or 1st of all they show to brush their teeth at least twice a day, and the parents would also help them. and they should use a toothpaste or fluoride for their remit. i want to say send off the t.p.
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and they parents would take care of the fault of the kids that's not included. so many showers. and then the kids would also come to a record every check up to the dentist, especially if it's recommended that to kids come when the 1st tooth is already there. so that means in the age of 6 or 8 mouths, who are is so important. i would say baby teeth through forward and so or done through hard, you know, it's not so important until you get your butt or 2 teeth cleaning baby teeth. that's important for dental help and also for funny take and acidic reasons. and the baby teeth have all of the very important space holder. so that means price of a song on the smaller the baby teeth. they are the problem and teeth. and when the baby tooth gets sick or infection, kerry has this, can have
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a parrot influence under problem menteith, on the road. and also when we have to extract one of those to europe quite early, then we have to make sure that the gap is, stays open because if not, then to new tooth cannot hop into the gap. and then there was not enough room for the new t.v. . ok. when steve, thank you for this interesting talk. and both of you to stick a has been around for stone ages. skull foam beings have shown that even stone age and sisters had cavities. but not that frequently, like today, with around 2 and a half 1000000000 people affected worldwide. tooth decay is the most frequent in such as disease worldwide. and what's to blame, sugar. so how can you prevent it? seeds regular really, and stay away from sure good foods. and soft drinks and see
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a dentist because he can help you with the sealant when sand her back of her hand and her son paul, are irish and the bears. they rarely have sweet snacks. and paul knows exactly why cavity i've never had them but cavity their teeth. decay. it's like drilling holes in your teeth. and you can eat sweets, but not too many. and you always have to brush your teeth properly in love with each enough which paul already has. several adults leave the surfaces of his new mahler's in their rear half grooves fischer's. they're hard to clean. you can't always clean these issues properly because you don't know exactly how anything are, even if you brush them thoroughly or for
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a long time. puts bacteria can build in the fissures causing tooth decay. children often get cover, sees if their molar is, which appeared between the ages of 6 and 121 way to guard against this is to have their teeth sealed up or left. the other teeth haven't come in far enough. that will take another 3 or 4 months. if you, the dentist fills the phishers with a synthetic feelin's to prevent tooth decay. the procedure takes about 10 to 15 minutes and is painless. dentists recommend it for children who have a heightened risk of cover. children have already had cavities in their baby. it makes sense to seal their adult teeth. the bacteria living in the mouth can also attack other teeth. hasn't had any cavities in this baby teeth, but with him,
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the adult teeth that are now erupting, have very, very deep fissures. and that's why it's a very good idea to apply sealant as a preventative measure. dental have proven effective against tooth decay. a plastic feel about 5 to 10 years. it's no substitute for good dental hygiene. it doesn't provide complete protection against cavities because other teeth can also become affected, but it certainly provides additional protection. it's also important for the sealant to be examined regularly because if there are signs of sealant loss to be reapplied, otherwise, cavities can develop very quickly underneath the sealant. if the sealant becomes detached over the years, the risk of too thick
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a you may increase. first the surface of paul's tooth is cleaned and then come from the dry. that's important for the seal and density and longevity. gel is applied to roughen up the surface of the anomaly. next, the liquid sealant is applied to the fissures that hardens when exposed to ultraviolet light. allergies to the sealant are very rare. the last step is to apply floor age. he'll come back in for months to have the other teeth sealed. so how does paul now? i'm totally fine. paul must wait one hour before eating again. but still dental hygiene is important as ever. that means don't eat too many sweets and drink water instead of soda, pop, and above all proper brushing and flossing,
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as well as regular dental checkups. this way pulls teeth, should stay healthy in the future. the world is fighting the novel coronavirus. so i say, please stay safe. and patrick balloon says, please shave and the man knows what he's talking about because he's the head of the french association of emergency doctors. and he says that the beard can be a health risk. the protective effects of face masks and the beard or moustache as cells can be the host of a lot of germs. but is this really true? come and go according to fashion in some places in our tradition plays a role in living on gyno from their own birth has had one for 5 years.

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