discovered subscribe to the documentary on you tube. this is the windy, rain forest in uganda. it's part of a national park that was declared a unesco world heritage site. in 1994, the forest is home to an estimated $1000.00 and gorillas. but their habitat is now threatened because humans are moving ever closer and could even spread the coated 1000 virus to the gorilla population. can we stop the spread of such though not of

diseases? what part to humans play in this process? and is there a connection between colvin climate change and the destruction of wildlife habitats? some african countries plan to reforest 100000000 hectares of land over the next 10 years. how do they plan to do this? today we're going to visit a mountain gorilla habitat. our guide is dr. gladys a veterinarian. 1st some antivirus measures dr. kelly mighty kusaka co-founded, an organization that aims to protect wildlife from disease spread by humans. but it funded the organization in 2003. and at that time, people do not think it was a priority. they recognized that it was an issue,

but they didn't think it was such a big problem. but the could be tension and they need to show that it's really a big problem. and if you want to put in the next pandemic, you have to be able to seriously, if you didn't control facility, this is how the situation also affects local residents who make their living from tourism. business of selling off recently. and that's bad news for park ranger course must tomato, mia, and also for gladys's organization because they need the cooperation of the local community. not. so you've been going back when you present our benefit. i just started work one day when i saw some tourists. if there was a white person with them, we hadn't seen one for a long time. the gorillas live really close by. so i know right away if something was wrong, like people trying to sneak into their habitat. but we did, you know when you are supporting him, then you go on with everything going for he's caught us. yeah. i know he's there

for the goodness of his the neighbor sometimes equal to that little boy does that around. ok. they're not going to come on until they are. the rangers will ensure the gorillas away from the settlements back into the forest. if the park needs the income that the tourist trade provides. but at the same time, the rangers have to protect the gorillas from potentially dangerous contact with humans, especially these days our next cycle through does for me it is one of the early of what he does that shows us to this effect. this has been a case one of us to move there by this so that when we are 15 here that we have left, that the president is safe. although the number of mountain gorillas is increasing, you know, they are still considered an endangered species. there are 2 separate gorilla

populations, one here in but windy and the other in the mountains, about 80 kilometers away. flea shit, over 90 percent genetic material with the mountain to the mountain gorillas. time can easily make them sick. and so if you're too cool for then sneeze on them, you can very easily spread, could be 19 or any other species, any disease to them fits like easier for us to go to the doctor than for them. and there's so few in number compared to us. so we have to do whatever we can. and for example, we have to be 10 meters away from them. everybody's wearing a mask and we have to hunt sanitize disinfects feed when we're getting close to the green. have to look at what they picked, where he's to be there. if they are friends and i use it, people have given us. so they kind of come to us when you see them coming right back, some steps behind. i don't touch on that and just get folks

on the back in front of us is called public or dope fiend. the dumbing down to go back in the school feeling still about how to feel so about it. sometimes the talking about the team and the direction of trouble for goodness don't realize it is a pandemic flu thing. they don't know that they should think of this and the puckering just how basically trying to do have to tweak them so that they don't get too close . get a prescription up diseases from us. they can fix us diseases and things like that. i think to a very special connection whenever i see them, it's just amazing. it's logical every single time. although of students so many times it's tonight equipped play. thank you for explaining

the real outfield and this every single night. and in the morning when they're getting up to start the day, they defecate in normally on the site. but it's a very good way for us to be able to monitor the health of the gorillas. what we do is we pretty much we measure the size of the dung. i think that tell us whether it's an adult male silverback or with every adult female. this is like, this must be an adult male. this may well be the silverback training. you can get from the new couple so we take samples from each, have been to a guerilla group once a month, and then it's of normal. so if we're following them on the trail, and one of them is passing down to collect samples so that we're able to monitor

their health of oh yeah. so a species that's related to humans is now threatened by 2 poaching warfare. the destruction of forests and most recently, the covert pandemic. it's this, we are unique because the way that has come is through human kind actions going into forests like this trapping wild animals, putting them in cages next, other animals. you know, this is about corona virus which mutated in which jump the other species there. it's a pretty slick in one just as easy if the script between one can jump back to the last 200 of the so closely related will eat uganda still windy forest and travel east to neighboring kenya. we want to find out more about bats. the animals that are widely believed to be the source of the corona buyers, loyal our destination is mt albert national park. local

resident augustine. but i sample show us the caves where the bats live. i used to go to fort lee was the bad because if it was the way that these men from the village are headed for the case to hunt for bats. the meat is considered a delicacy by many in this part of kenya. despite the objections of conservationists that we've been eating bad meat for generations. if we can't find any vegetables, we go up to the caves just like our ancestors did that meat pretty often. it's easier to find the chicken in this is that it will come first, the hunters cut branches like these to catch the bats then they cut off the long

thorns near the bottom of the branch so they can hold on to it. the forms on top will be used to trap the bats. the vegetation becomes more dense as we approach the caves of which i did this and it's to their credit it's you see is continuing to do it over and over from that kid to id. i think if the kids who were you like it did, some of the men dive into a pool in the cave to scare the bats from the animals fly outside. the hunters are waiting there to catch them. free. usually we use the branches to chase the bats around, and then their wings get caught in the thorn as you know, it works great and no one gets hurt. you go through a lot it's you saw it as it is because it's you who wouldn't. so why should i give me

anything? i should think, i don't have a with catching bats sitting at it by the net about that disease. we just have to be right to gold that it doesn't turn up here new to think. well, if someone finds a cure for it, that he, i'm starting to think like, i do need to ask them all out a date. maybe it's the way they put they can take something. well, even if it's moved, somewhat interesting, it's really something the hunters return home with their catch. meanwhile, it's just bernard. quantize, getting ready to visit the caves. right, doctor, are studying diseases that bats could transmit to humans. when

human beings the number constituents say hold the 2, now 8 and 10, do you remember this piece on optimus? the same? so we'll compare the specific demand for last place to have attacked. play out in the protest. demolition of the caves where the bats measured out, then they would scatter sort of looking for the 2 i detect when they do so desperate to get closer to us and to never the best temple of trust. dr and wanda and his colleagues wear masks and protective suits, they're well aware of the health risks posed by bats. now go deep into the caves to find the animals was in the last 2 decades, 60 percent of the mine does exist, either found in bats closer to us bats. that means bats have put the highest number of passes, that tough potential to jump to human being or to just comes close up creating

a public health. well from that interview of last minute excuses even better if you can't recall trophies, they have specific programs. they love to still name. remember what you are, the fact these like their habitat. so this is because of a fear they have a type that they like. so we should take a better step closer to the last one and a change in our view, it includes increasingly seeing poaching on bats. again, it's not out of order that they're pushing small amounts. now, you can't put to me, i mean it's illegal collection for gives who's going to push it on sale?

they allegedly don't. and that's counter to the tenets that it's put, sometimes whole spillover issues such as people such as how to 50 years have grouped. if you up to date it's opened, and so if there would be a spillover, a small village would be affected. and if it will cause it to be localized. now, because we move from point a to point b. within an hour, and then from one human being to narrow pete to yolanda communion to 3 hours and then cruising all over to new york. in one day you can see how we are giving back such a scheme. you know, people who live in this village don't seem to worry about the health risks posed by bats. if you know a fair fight, like, you know if there was a disease here,

we would have caught it a long time ago. but the old people have been eating this meat for years. now, just as our ancestors did, you can eat it and live to be 100 you know very then if they know likable. these are the internal organs. they're safe to eat because the bats eat a lot of salt in the caves. each bag has about a quarter kilo of meat and it's disease free gift of being is a yeah. but it's a little later off at 8 about, but of course the kids don't listen when their parents try to warn them, but they want to find out more. my youngest son would eat that me. but when he grows up, like my oldest son, he want to statically for

people eventually learn to stay away from the bats and stop cutting down primeval forest. so it isn't the earth's climate is changing, and new diseases are turning up all the time. these are manmade problems. in kenya, the authorities are trying to reverse these trends. this effort includes a reforestation programme. but the situation is complicated because people are now living in the areas where the trees are to be planted. this is the mouth forest in western kenya. the region is home to an important ecosystem, including a major reservoir. the government has now ordered new settlers like catherine to leave the area. and when they told us that this was forest land and afforded us to move the names,

they said that we were destroying the dream is and ruining the reservoir of if they said this was causing water shortages in neighboring countries. i don't think you know where nation is from the get go. i was happy to just work on my land. if i could grow food for my children and earn some money to pay for their education enough. a theoretical question. but one young lady in the government has caused us a lot of grief. i had to tear down my 1st 2 houses that were soldiers burned down our 3rd house, where my children used to study. they destroyed the granary to i lost everything. i couldn't even harvest my corn and millet props. when i saw the settlers will have

to leave their land to make room for new trees. the government plans to increase the amount of forest land to 10 percent by 2022. but the $10000000.00 trees are to be planted in the mouth forest along this effort is aimed at stabilizing the regional climate and getting the rivers flowing again. but what will happen to the settlers? some of them say they own the property and happy documents to prove it. they claim that the government has cheated them. but kenya's environmental minister says that the settlers had no right to move into the area. south dakota was there when it was docked. they have done that entirely and have gone back to where they came from, everybody. each one of them knows that they should not have been here to begin with . most of the settlers had nothing more than a simple heart and a bit of land for the crops. but they have no idea what they're going to do. now.

they don't know any powerful politicians who could plead their case to the government. so catherine, she left on her own to provide food and shelter for herself and her children are now are staying with a relative to give them. my uncle took us in for a while. there are lots of kids in the house and sometimes they fight with each other. but i can't do anything about it. i'm just a visitor there. i tell my kids to stay calm and don't provoke the others. but where else can they go when they want to play? some of the settlers have built small houses on land that was donated by a private individual. there's no room for crops here. not even a garden. katherine has no idea how long she'll be able to stay. she uses wood from one of her old houses to build a new home. i'm not getting help from anyone,

so i can provide for my children like i could when we had farmland. my kids ask me, what are we going home? and i don't know what to tell them. that i hope that we can find some metal sheeting for the roof. as soon as we get the roof built, we can move in. the settlers don't understand why they're being blamed for the region's environmental problems, nor do they understand why the rivers in the must time are up and serengeti plains are drying up. they simply want to place to live and work god gave people land so that they could live on it. and that's all we're doing. living on land that was provided to us by god. again,

catherine is heading to a meeting of displaced persons. the african union has demanded a temporary halt to the expulsion of the settlers and human rights groups, including one led by american attorney logan hambrick promised to help if they were given the fact that we have started to tell your story that you would take oleksandr require basic human rights tell you things that you deserve for your dignity. clothing, housing, things for your future. good looks for your children. thank you. because he told us that if we can't go back to our homes, you will be given a new piece of land. if that happens,

we would be very happy and he would be new to that. namely, he at this point, no one knows what will happen. in any case africa's population is growing rapidly. how will the continent feed its people and deal with the effects of climate change and the spread of disease? one answer may be found here in the rift valley. home to the hominid ancestors of modern humans. teddy cañon julius, looking for new sites where he can plant seeds balls to grow large numbers of new trees are focused with all of the seed for work that we're doing well is specifically on restoring, degraded areas that are degraded because of human activity. if no one else is going in to restore and replant, where some of those trees have been cut down, their urgency that we're seeing from all of these byproducts of deforestation,

garbage ation, the flood, the drought, you know, we wait 50 years for it to solve its own problem that might be too long. today, teddy has been dropping bagfuls of c boss. the seed is tucked inside a pallet composed of compressed charcoal dust and some nutrients are often distributed in areas where trees have been cut down, illegally. teddy and his colleagues, house and car start founded, the company that makes the seed balls these trees are all their fish. is your idea? this is the other fever. are you so parts of it? my yellowish thorns off the style shards having dolls that yes, this is the same, a sailor fever on the stuff and all over sadly for those are very, very produce very, very excellent quality charcoal. so lots of areas. these are the 1st ones to be removed because it's such a good firewood, but it grows and reaches long distances horizontally before it

actually as it matures, then it starts going up. so there really did put darkness 1st, january 28th in. this is in july 28, seem better than this is it, this is not a day in the almost fully grow. the seeds come from kenya's forestry research institute, which buys them from farmers. teddy is proud of the seed box unique design. big thing, the seed balls can years. how do you stop those seeds being eaten prematurely by mice, by birds, by insights, not really are concepts. i think i'd say, how do you got the right type of seeds that are right and don't have them being eaten by the things you don't want to eat? what's more the pellet prevents the wind from blowing the seeds around. the balls are made from charcoal, dust, teddie, and else and by the material from people who make charcoal. so they've taken what would seem to be a useless byproduct and turned it into

a valuable resource. it's not waste anymore because we buy it. so we have these vendors that fund us up and say ok, we have a lorry load, we go in, we take it for a tonne load, we pay them for it. and then it's made into briquettes. we had binders of water. we have rolling machines that create pillows, pillow big cats, and this is called vendors waste. truckle. it's cheaper to use seed balls to plant new trees than it is to use seedlings. we hope to be able to do that $8000000.00 seed balls plus that we've made so far in the last couple years. i would hope that we would get soon to a point. we were doing that in 2 months. to 20 tries a new way to plant a seed ball. turn

to the windy forest in uganda, home of the mountain gorillas. this region must not only preserve a safe haven for the gorilla population. it should also provide jobs for the people who live there. that's especially true during the pandemic of dr. gladys has found a way to help local coffee farmers earn more for their crops. every farmer that he can supports by spending it is when this person is so desperate that they have to, into the park to pull its sips noons and disrupt the gorillas. and i'm a bit of this as a people very hungry. and then we started to put it to develop a screen seedlings for the local community in the us that they can plant in their

land, which reduces their need to go to a community leader brings gladdest to the place where local residents gather to boil water to make it safe for drinking. she's going to talk to them about problems such as poverty poaching. so not of diseases, health care and family planning. to get her message across, she uses illustrations. but they can have a beautiful if you like their funding. when they have the children they can manage, but i walked off, you know, you know, i'm not going to really look, you know, no one of all of the food. the local families are better off life will improve for the girls. we had can do this outbreak in the mountain gorillas and you just link to people living around the park was very good to help the gorillas get the skaters when they went outside the park to get people's banana plants. and they found that you clothing on a scarecrow, and that's how they got it. and the baby gorilla got sick and died. and the rest,

when you recover when you're treated. and this made me realize that we can't protect the gorillas without improving the health of the community living next to them. gladys also explains why the children need a proper education that will help improve their chances for a better life, helping them. a lot of them are staying at home so that these onto stayed at home. their job is to chase away gorillas and other wildlife instead of going to school, so they don't have a future. in this laboratory, gladys and one of her colleagues are examining karela, stool samples. this will help to determine the presence of any pathogens and their potential source right there with the presence of the could be picking up from people like took, especially when they were in the puck, which they often do in this group. we saw was very close to the age of the boundary, but we also preserve the some posts just for the pandemic has made more people

aware of the potential risks of interaction between animals and humans. here gladys is discussing the situation in a video conference. she says, we all have to do a better job of dealing with these problems. we have to respect nature. we have to spend less time cutting down trees. the more that we are close and close that wildlife in ways that the shouldn't deny a chance of getting sooty diseases. and then we're censuses a very strong hill systems, one health systems that prevents diseases spreading. once they're in one species, going from one species to another. people even called me set in the humans. and now we understand what you've been talking about these years. since the disease is very important, if we are to have a secure future more

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