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president. and the challenges of god doesn't. cut the incredible story of the wind. starts december 10th on t.w. . this is the when the rain forest in uganda. it's part of a national park that was declared a unesco world heritage site in 1994. the forest is home to an estimated 1000 mountain gorillas. but their habitat is now threatened because humans are moving ever closer and could even spread the colder 1000 buyers to the gorilla population. can we stop the spread of such though not
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a diseases what part to humans play in this process and is there a connection between colvin climate change and the destruction of wildlife habitats . some african countries plan to reforest 100000000 hectares of land over the next 10 years how do they plan to do this. today we're going to visit a mountain gorilla habitat our guide is dr gladys. a veterinarian 1st some antivirus measures. dr kelly might see co-founded an organization that aims to protect wildlife from disease spread by humans. but it funded the organization in 2003 and at that time people do not think it was a priority they recognized that it was an issue but they didn't think it was such
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a big problem but the could be then to continue to show that this is really a big problem and if you want to put in the next pandemic you have to be able to seriously if you didn't control the disease it was more. of the situation also affects local residents who make their living from tourism. business of selling off recently. and that's bad news for park ranger course must do what i mean and also for gladys's organization because they need the cooperation of the local community . they've been coming. back with the president now that i just started work one day when i saw some tourists if there was a white person with them we hadn't seen one for a long time. the gorillas live really close by so i know right away if something is wrong like people trying to sneak into their habitat but you get. when you are supporting him then you go on with the thing the photos caught us yeah
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i noticed over there going to this is the neighbor of us or sometimes they go to live with as i found out that they're not going to come by means that. the rangers will ensure the gorillas away from the settlements back into the forest. if. the park needs the income that the tourist trade provides. but at the same time the rangers have to protect the gorillas from potentially dangerous contact with humans especially these days. our next cycle through does for me. it is one of the leading lady of the body does that throws us through this you think this has been a case one of us can lead the way this is that when we are 15 here there we have it if the president is that. although the number of mountain gorillas is increasing you know they are still considered an endangered species. there are 2 separate
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gorilla populations one here in the windy and the other in the barunga mountains about 80 kilometers away 3 shit is present genetic material within the mountain with the mountain gorillas one can easily make them sick and so if you to quote from them sneeze on them you can very easily spread could be 19 or any other repeater the disease to them fits like if they're just good to the good kill them for them and they're still few in number compared to us so we have to do whatever we can and for example we have to meet 10 meters away from them everybody is wearing a mask and we have to 100 times disinfect feet when we're getting close to the gorilla. to look at what they pick to artists to be very clear their friends and i use it to people given us so they kind of come to us when you see them from the flight deck some steps behind i don't touch on that and
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get fixed up so back in front of us it's called public order for the dumbing down to go back in the school feeling so we're back up to me the suv about becoming the most exciting about to get in and the direction of trouble for good us don't realize that there's a pandemic footing they don't know that they should focus on the park rangers have basically been trying to be had between them so that they don't get too close. get a preschool peeking up diseases from us that can fix this diseases and things like that. i think to a very special connection whenever i see them it's just amazing it's magical every single time over i've said in so many times it's tonight equipped. player .
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don't realize they would unless every single night and in the morning when they're getting up to start the day they defecate in it normally on the site but it's a very good way for us to be able to monitor the health of the gorillas what we do is we pretty much we measure the size of the dung i think that tell us whether it's an adult male so rock or with every adult female this is like 8 centimeters so this must be an adult male this may well be death of a buck training you can get you can bring it up. so we take samples from each have intuited gorilla group once a month and then if it's of normal so if we're following them on the trail and one of them is passing down to collect samples so that we're able to monitor their
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health the whole year. so a species that's related to humans is now threatened by through poaching warfare the destruction of forests and most recently the covert pandemic for this we are unique because the way that has come is through human kind actions going into forests like this trapping wild animals putting them in cages next other animals you know this is about corona virus which mutated in which jump the other species from the it's a pretty sucky clean one just as easy if it's pretty clean one can jump back to the last 200 of the so closely related. release uganda still in the forest and travel east to neighboring kenya we want to find out more about bats the animals that are widely believed to be the source of the corona virus. loyal to our destination is mt albert national park.
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local resident augustine but i will show us the caves where the bats live. i used to to pass for. the bad. when. it was to put. if it were would it. these men from the village are headed for the case to hunt for bats the meat is considered a delicacy by many in this part of kenya despite the objections of conservationists . who we've been eating bat meat for generations if we can find any to bills we go up to the caves just like our ancestors did we bet me pretty often it's easier to find the chicken this is the end of the. first the hunters cut branches like these to catch the bats. then they cut off the long thorns near the bottom of the branch so they can hold on to it.
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the forms on top will be used to trap the bats. the vegetation becomes more dense as we approach the caves. look like we tried to do this and it's still there but it's you see this continuing to do it over and over from good to id i think it is good where you'd like to get out of it some of the men dive into a pool in the cave to scare the bats. and the animals fly outside the hunters are waiting there to catch them. we usually get we used the branches to chase the bats around and then their wings get caught in the thorn as you know it works great and no one gets hurt of the world. it's. it's because it's. you who like fish i think you mean it in
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a should keep i don't have a. problem with catching bats sing it in my head about that disease we just have to be right to gold but it doesn't turn up here knew if someone finds a cure for it that he. i'm starting to think like i do we need to. ask them all out a date maybe it's the way they put they can take. something well even if it's. moved somewhat interesting it's really something to. the hunters returned home with their catch. meanwhile it's mom ologist bernard and wanda is getting ready to visit the caves right doctor of wanda is studying diseases that bats could transmit to humans. when human beings the number increased
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from say a whole deal to now 8 and 10 do you remember this piece on optimus the same surreal companions visit the dimensional alex clapton they have attacked. the protest demis into caves where the bats mentioned it because then they would scatter so the fortitude i detect when they do so this place it was a toss up to enable the best example her last. dr of wanda and his colleagues wear masks and protective suits they're well aware of the health risks posed by bats so now they'll go deep into the caves to find the animals. in the last 2 decades 60 percent of the mizen does exist i mean back to school day is her team's back so that means babs how good the highest number of classes at how
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potentially to jump to humanity. was to comes close how to create a. public health. well from the interview of last minute this is. even better if you can't tell what you call cookies they have specific programs they love to still remember when you are back at least make their habitat so this is specific period every time that they like. it so it will seem to amount to a better system in the last one and a change. now we can is increasingly seeing poaching on bats and it is not out of order that they are pushing. small amounts now it is pushing here means even collection for it gives us little the bush meat on sale they allegedly going to it's time to
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tell the pets that it's cold sometimes whole spiel is just such as such as. to 50 years ago if you put it is opened and so if there would be a spillover a small village would be affected and if it will cause it to be localized now because who moved from point a to point b. with them and then from one human being in the will beat to your own to communion to 3 hours and then cruising all over new york in one day you can see how we are giving back such. as if. you know. people who live in this village don't seem to worry about the health risks posed by bats. if you know if i'm like you know if there was
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a disease here we would have caught it a long time ago but the old people have been eating this meat for years now just as our ancestors did you can eat it and live to be 100. the university then a. thing of luck with it these are the internal organs they're safe to eat because the bats eat a lot of salt in the caves each bag has about a quarter kilo of meat and it's disease free if the nasal yeah. even if you. are 48 about that of course the kids don't listen when their parents try to warn them but they want to find out more. my youngest son would eat that me but when he grows up like my oldest son we want.
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to check with. more people eventually learn to stay away from the bats and stop cutting down primeval forest so that if. the earth's climate is changing and new diseases are turning up all the time these are manmade problems in kenya the authorities are trying to reverse these trends. this effort includes a reforestation programme but the situation is complicated because people are now living in the areas where the trees are to be planted. this is the mouth forest in western kenya. the region is home to an important ecosystem including a major reservoir. the government has now ordered new settlers like catherine to leave the area. when. they told us that this was forest land and afforded us to move. means they said
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that we were destroying the trees and ruining the reservoir. might get. they said this was causing water shortages in neighboring countries. since. the quantity of this madrid i was happy to just work on my land i could grow food for my children and earn some money to pay for their education in the theoretical question. but one young lady in the government has caused us a lot of grief i had to tear down my 1st 2 houses soldiers burnt down our 3rd house where my children used to study they destroyed the granary too i lost everything i couldn't even harvest my corn and millet props. so the settlers will have to leave
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their land to make room for new trees. the government plans to increase the amount of forest land to 10 percent by 2022 but. the $10000000.00 trees are to be planted in the mal forest alone. this effort is aimed at stabilizing the regional climate and getting the rivers flowing again. but what will happen to the settlers some of them say they own the property and happy documents to prove it. they claim that the government has cheated them but kenya's environmental minister says that the settlers had no right to move into the area south dakota not that. they were forced out they have done that for entirely and have gone back to where they could i think they came from everybody each one of them knows that they should not have been here to begin with. most of the settlers had nothing more than a simple heart and a bit of land for the crops. but they have no idea what they're going to do. they
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don't know any powerful politicians who could plead their case to the government. so catherine. he left on her own to provide food and shelter for herself and her children. are now they're staying with a relative. to do that and my uncle took us in for a while there are lots of kids in the house and sometimes they fight with each other. i can't do anything about it i'm just a visitor there i tell my kids to stay calm and don't provoke the others but where else can they go when they want to play. some of the settlers have built small houses on land that was donated by a private individual so there's no room for crops here not even a garden. katherine has no idea how long she'll be able to stay. she uses wood from one of her old houses to build a new home. i'm not getting help from anyone
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so i can't provide for my children like i could when we had farmland. my kids ask me what are we going home and i don't know what to tell them. i hope that we can find some metal sheeting for the roof as soon as we get the roof built we can move in. the settlers don't understand why they're being blamed for the region's environmental problems nor do they understand why the rivers of the must time are up and serengeti plains are drying up. they simply want to place to live and work. god gave people land so that they could live on it and that's all we're doing living on land that was provided to us by god. in.
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katherine is heading to a meeting of displaced persons the african union has demanded a temporary halt to the expulsion of the settlers. and human rights groups including one led by american attorney logan hambrick promise to help. with the fact that. we have started to tell your story that is if you take all the actions that they require basic human rights tell you things that you deserve for us they've had to come up clothing housing items things for your kid to look for your children thank. you. we're divorced he told us that if we can't go back to our homes you will be given a new piece of land where they knew what they were. if that happens we would be
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very happy. and you would be. at this point no one knows what will happen. in any case africa's population is growing rapidly. how will the continent feed its people and deal with the effects of climate change and the spread of disease. one answer may be found here in the rift valley home to the hominid ancestors of modern humans. teddie cañon juhi is looking for new sites where you can plant seeds balls to grow large numbers of new trees. are focused with all of the seed of all work that we're doing is specifically on restoring degraded areas that are degraded because of human activity and no one else is going into a store and replant where some of those trees are trying to cut down their urgency that we're seeing from all of these byproducts of deforestation dietician the flood
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the drought you know we wait 50 years for it to solve its own problem that might be too long. today teddy has been dropping bagfuls of seed boss the seed is tucked inside a pellet composed of compressed charcoal dust and some nutrients are often distributed in areas where trees have been cut down illegally. teddy and his colleagues house and car start founded the company that makes the seed balls. these trees are called acacia is your idea this is the low fever are you still parts of it my yellowish thorns off the child starts humming gulzar yes. this is a strain a sail a fever on the. stuff and all over. sadly for these are very very produce very very excellent quality charcoal so lots of areas these are the 1st ones to be removed because it's such a good fire. but it grows. and reaches long distances horizontally before it actually as it matures then it starts going up.
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there and it did put down this 1st january trying to see in this is in july 28 seem better than this is it this is. not today i mean almost fully grown. the seeds come from kenya's forestry research institute which buys them from farmers. tell us proud of the seed balls unique design. big thing the seed balls can years how do you stop those seeds being eaten prematurely by mice by birds by insights not really are concepts and i think i'd say. how do you got the right type of seeds that i. don't have them being eaten by the things you know and. what's more the pellet prevents the wind from blowing the seeds around the balls are made from charcoal dust. teddy and else and by the material from people who make charcoal so they've taken what would seem to be a useless byproduct and turned it into
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a valuable resource. it's not waste anymore because we buy it so we have these vendors that found us up and say ok we have a lorry load we go in we take it for a time load we pay them for it and then it's made into briquettes we have binders of water we have rolling machines that create pillows pillow big carrots and this is called vendors waste charcoal it's cheaper to use seed balls to plant new trees than it is to use seedlings. we hope to be able to do that $8000000.00 seed balls plus that we've made so far in the last couple years i would hope that we would get soon to a point we were doing that in 2 months. to. 20 tries a new way to plant a seed ball. we
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returned to the windy forest in uganda home of the mountain gorillas. this region must not only preserve a safe haven for the gorilla population should also provide jobs for the people who live there. that's especially true during the pandemic of. dr gladys. has found a way to help local coffee farmers earn more for their crops. every farmer that we can support. is one less person who is so desperate that they opt into the park to pull it's. and disrupt the group. of people very hungry and then we started. to develop a screen seedings for the local continued interest that they can plant in their
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land which reduces their need to be. a community leader brings gladdest to the place where local residents gather to boil water to make it safer drinking. she's going to talk to them about problems such as poverty poaching so not of diseases health care and family planning. to get her message across she uses illustrations. that become how beautiful they feel like they're funny when they have the children they can manage. you know you're going to them if you look you don't know one of all of. the local families are better off life will improve for the girls. we had can do this outbreak in the mountain gorillas and you just link to people living around the park very early to help the gorillas get the skaters when they went outside the park to get people's banana plants and they found that a closing on a scarecrow and that's how they got it. the baby gorilla got sick and died
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and the rest when he recovered when he treated them with ivermectin and this made me realise that we can't protect the gorillas without improving the health of the community living next to them. gladys also explains why the children need a proper education. that will help improve their chances for a better life after a couple of them are staying at home so them there's also a state at home their job is to chase away gorillas and other wildlife instead of going to school so they don't have a future. in this laboratory gladys and one of her colleagues are examining gorilla stool samples this will help to determine the presence of any pathogens and their potential source. right now with the presence of the could be picking up from people or nice took especially when they're in your sever puc which they will fit into even the school control we saw was very close to the age of the boundary but we also preserving the symbols to school could be done until. the pandemic has made more people aware of the potential risks of
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interaction between animals and humans. here gladys is discussing the situation in a video conference. she says we all have to do a better job of dealing with these problems. we have to respect nature we have to spend less time cutting down trees the more that we are closer and closer to wildlife in ways that we shouldn't deny a chance of getting semitic diseases and then we also sit a very strong health systems one health systems that prevents diseases spreading once they're in one species going from one species to another people even called me said in humans and now we understand what you've been talking about all these years since the disease is very important if we are to have a secure future. i
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