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the movement paid to fits and a man who has declared himself the king of germany the office for the protection of the constitution and the region where caddick and 711 began thinks the degree of radicalization is enough to put the group under observation so soon there may be some moles from the local secret service alongside the rest of the fandango. you're watching news from berlin with me up next coronavirus special statements about. the fight against the corona virus pandemic. has the rate of infection been developing what does the latest research say. information and context around a virus update. on t.w. . and you you may know here's here's we're going to you and how it all steers
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german chancellor we'll bring you i'm going to map as you've never tried to have before surprise yourself with what is possible magical really what moves and. who talks to people who follow along the way admirers and critics alike how is the world's most powerful woman shaping her legacy joining us from eccles law stops. just how many people are dying from coded 19 as it stands more than one and a half 1000000 people have died of covert 19 around the world but official figures can only tell one part of the story that's why scientists are calling for certain types of data to be used to get more reliable numbers. to help us better understand
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mortality in the corona virus pandemic. first off we take you to the russian city of where the discrepancy between the official coronavirus death toll and how many more deaths there are compared to last year is too wide to ignore. with a steady stream of coronavirus dead speed is of the essence at the most every morning the team from the funeral agency. comes here to collect new victims of the pandemic 29 year old toure has been working in the funeral business for 12 years but he says he's never had to bury this many bodies. which are one time there was a huge line of persons standing in line outside the morgue it was only then that people started to understand the death really come to. call the relatives.
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this movie in the city of is only for people who died of corona virus or had contact with an infected person the bodies have to be sealed in plastic the coffins closed. many russians feel that dead should be treated with more respect or explains. some of their relatives are often more tense than usual because their dead are handed over to them in plastic bags. to open the bags so i tell them that right away some people cry and demand that we open the bags then i have to explain that they could get infected themselves this virus is no joke. it's been if you've. been in the business for 7 years today he's in charge of the team of undertake has he says since the 2nd wave of corona virus that have been at least twice as many deaths in the city of funeral agencies have had
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a tough time keeping up. with we work a lot more work over a 1000000 people live in the capital of the republic of. government statistics say that only around 90 people in the region have died of the corona virus since the pandemic began but the official numbers also show that during that time of a forced. 1000 more people died the nost year corona virus infections are spiking across russia but insist the situation is under control. the undertaker so sure today unicode sloth and his team are in tearing a 92 year old woman she didn't die of the coronavirus that means her relatives can say their final farewell with an open casket which is the tradition in russia. usually funerals a big family affair as in russia but the pandemic has changed that people are often
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worried about getting infected and stay away. so far no one in your research team has caught covert he can only hope it will stay that way. in russia people say if it's decided up there that you'll get run over by a street car you won't drown fate is fate if a coronavirus is my fate it will pass me by. or with a very good. the next day the team prepares for 4 more funerals and his colleagues hardly have time to worry about their own health at the moment they're just too busy loss of esther guard joins us now he's the project coordinator of that of course stands for european mortality monitoring welcome to you we've just seen a new daily record of coronavirus related deaths here in germany totaling 590 why do you think that number has gone up so sharply considering writing the 2nd wave. i
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think the most what we're seeing is a very widespread transmission of call it 19 in germany and in many other european countries that is now reflected also in. the group mentality. but how do you think the numbers will develop further or have we already seen the peak and they're really good question so if you look at what we experienced in the 1st wave in in march in europe we saw a very rapid increase in much healthier within a few weeks and a very very decline after the lock downs then we saw a very quiet period during the summer in most european countries but since around september october in the in europe many countries have seen. gradually increased transmission not only small focal areas but widespread in the country and this is
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now reflecting in a gradually increasing access mortality and you not sure yet when this will peak expect exactly because i hope that with the increased restrictions we are now having in many countries in europe we will also see in our ethnic line again in what else but we're not sure yet can you please clarify for our viewers what exactly is meant by excess mortality. yes oh except matelot is more deaths than you would expect normally from previous years of mortality so you are you calculate the the expected everett's rate and previous numbers and you can adjust for seasonal variations and then you see the difference from what you observe in the current time current week and you compare what we do expect and that is what we define as an excess modality and under situations when you have public
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health events that that excess must help so you can achieve it to that event which is now 1000 and you don't have actually other public health even the nations that critics claim this mentality so what we see is really a true picture of original much healthier 1000 europe now we've borrowed a graph from the organization showing that signature up from 2017 to 2020 we're noticing in particular to market peaks one from a severe flu season in 2018 and one in the 1st wave of the corona virus earlier this year this means corona virus is definitely deadlier than the so doesn't it how deadly is it exactly according to data yeah certainly we see normally during the inference the season in europe we see excess mortality and the example you show is from live very bad flu season in 1718 which was quite bad
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but the p.p. saw in the 1st wave could be 19 are many times higher the most healthy is is minute and higher than in the west. in fact this is the scene so is particular the group of. 65 years ago that it is it is at least 44 times worse than in the bad 1718 season and it is more than 20 times worse than the might influence of seasons so it's very significant extra mattel's he was enjoying could be 19 compared to a normal winter season. now the pandemic has gone on for the better part of a year we've all changed our behavior in a way to prevent more covert 19 deaths we're all wearing masks and social distancing has that had any impact on the number of deaths for other infectious illnesses like the flu yes i certainly have seen
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a very dramatic decline in other respects sorry infections. in france and then examined denmark we have seen a steep decline in 1000000 jackies cases so that will last to reduce martel from those other infections. thank you dr loss of us or guard he's the project coordinator of euro momo or european mortality monitoring we appreciate your analysis today thanks very much welcome up next stars science correspondent derek williams answers one of the questions you've sent in. what is the distinction between of vaccines efficacy and its effectiveness. every branch of science has its own vocabulary and these 2 words from pharmacology have been used confusingly and often interchangeably in the last few months although they mean different things for the general public efficacy is the less familiar term it
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describes how well a drug or a vaccine works in a controlled environment that's been designed to give clear answers that's because in the best of all possible worlds an independent team should be able to take an efficacy study conduct the trial in the same way and reach the same results so some trials like the covert 1000 vaccine candidate trials will have some baseline parameters for example they do things like exclude test subjects with preexisting medical conditions the fundamental questions are does the candidate work in healthy people safely in the doses that we're administering and if so does it also appear to protect at least those groups of people from contracting a disease effectiveness on the other hand describes how of the same back scene will
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perform when it's released into the wild if you will out there in the real world when it's given to people on a much wider scale this aspect of vaccine performance is also monitored of course after approval is granted but they did takes a lot more time to gather and to study effectiveness numbers for covert $1000.00 vaccines will almost certainly vary from the efficacy numbers we've been hearing about lately in the news they'll be different in people in different age groups for example. and although we're optimistic that current candidates will indeed protect a high percentage of people in the general public who receive them don't forget that calculating both efficacy and end effectiveness requires a sort of statistical sleight of hand because after all you're trying to figure out
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how many people didn't get a disease because they received a vaccine or or to flip that idea on its head what might have happened had they not been vaccinated and that's a pretty slippery concept. now if you have a question for derek just send an e-mail to feedback taught english at v.w. dot com and type expert in the subject line thanks for watching. the conflict zone team sebastian show by the white house next month with a funky free divided of the democrats really celebrating my guest this week from washington is democratic congresswoman debbie dingell spiking the merger with a vision believe the struggle simply for control of his policy to crises the will
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trump only for her conflicts the focus. of. journalists in montenegro be silenced by. his. brutal crimes are commonplace in the west backcountry. a network of drug lords a biased legal system and corrupt politicians are responsible to. move a new government time things around. passing cars on the roads i am 60 minutes on the job of. any town. i. imagine.
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is the same for an insufferable monarch. fantasy trip. up. the scene of a tragedy. times december 20. 4 years ago i predicted the downturn could with nobody wanted to do it since me too many politicians from from both sides of the aisle benefit from loopholes so they don't want to see closed and your party is just as bad as the republicans in that business barring unforeseen events joe biden will take the white house next month but with his party deeply divided other democrats really celebrating my guest this
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week from washington democratic congresswoman debbie dingell is geithner man with a vision over his struggle simply to control his party and the urgent crises. will effect. everything gold welcome to comfort zone you're among usual party joe biden wins the most powerful job in the world and you all kick off a blame game about why you didn't do better what's the matter with you well i know what it does people that says we need to stop pointing fingers and we need to take a deep breath and try to understand why so many people trump as well i think that people are disappointed that we have to close this maturity we've had in the house in decades and that's going to make it a challenge at times we don't know where the senate is going to end out quite
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frankly i'm of a mood it's going to force us to work together you don't want to point fingers but a lot of your colleagues seem to be one of the 1st shots in this war was fought by your colleague in the house of representatives abigail spam. she was one of the moderates heaping blame on the left wing of the party for losing seats in the house of representatives we need she said to not ever use the word socialist or socialism mccain we lost members we shouldn't have lost if we're classifying tuesday that election day as a success will get torn apart in 2022 that really kicked it off didn't it. well it did in some ways but you know i would encourage i'm one of the culture and some of our policy in messaging committee for the house of representatives and i think we really have to take time to understand everybody's to respect is very early on 4 years ago i predicted that donald trump could win nobody wanted to
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listen to me. but i believe that democrats are doing a very bad jump of talking about trade and that donald trump recognize the fear that workers had in their heart about how our trade policies have ship jobs overseas and that is one of the reasons i'm we've done trump one in $216.00 early on in this campaign probably buy it probably mayor this year i said to the biden campaign we have to deal with. this defund the police issue it matters in communities cleese are the backbone of many of our communities and some perhaps we do have a real problem in this country that if you're a young black man you are being treated differently by law enforcement but not on law enforcement is bad and that we need to be prepared to have uncomfortable conversations but to deal with this and i do believe it was an issue in many
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districts across the country. the messaging was an issue wasn't it because it didn't fit all areas it wasn't a one size fits all 11 house member mickey sheryl seemed to be speaking for many others when she said she'd managed to overcome the national messaging that have been so detrimental to so many candidates it's pretty bad isn't it when candidates find their own party's messaging is something that they have to overcome and you paid for that in rural areas and also among blue collar workers didn't you. well you know this is what i'm going to say i have a very diverse district i actually have one of the most diverse districts in the country i'm very proud of the fact that i represent. the workers steelworkers teamsters are a significant part. what we call the down river set in my district but i also represent one of the most liberal or except this country in ann arbor michigan where the home of the university of michigan is and many progressives i save the
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same thing no matter where i am and what i'm trying to do is to get both sides to listen to each other i think each it's incumbent upon each member you were running to represent your district to talk to your gesture to talk about the issues that matter and to just be very straightforward i'm not i think too many how intentions talk our legal. i think that's one of the reasons to jump on 4 years ago too because he lied because he turned it over to google didn't he talk to in simple terms that people could understand and enter and you didn't it's seems clear that he didn't go that one thing joe biden will not be is a powerful president not only does he have to worry about keeping the various wings of his party together but if he fails to pick up 2 senate seats in georgia that have a runoff next month most of the big ticket items that he wants to pass will die in the senate or won't even make it on to capitol hill will vote that's
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a narrow space to maneuver in i'm going to very much disagree with you i think you know by who is the president of the times and i think he could be a very powerful president he's someone that has the ability to bring people together the last 4 years have seen this country torn apart we've been divided because fear and hatred just times not afraid to reach across the aisle he knows how to bring people together he compromise isn't a dirty word there are a lot of things that need to get done in this country and i think i'm serious. but i want to ask about your notion of where things the country should be going after 4 years of donald trump biden promised in a thanksgiving speech life is going to return to normal but that doesn't sound like much of an ambition does it i don't bother you so robert reich the former labor secretary pointed out the normal would be a disaster and that's because normal led to trump normal is 4 decades of stagnant wages and widening inequality normal is 40 years of shredded safety nets he said
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and the most expensive least adequate health care system in the world no more is worsening police brutality why on earth does your leadership want to go back to normal. you know i think it depends on what you're taking the word normal to me i mean we tend nothing but trama nothing but being torn apart for 4 years in the ability to get nothing done unless you're a billionaire i think that when joe biden says normal we're going to have a national strategy plan for checking over it and nothing is going to be ok intil we are doing something about called the ins co it's stopping its spread how can those that have been impacted helping our small businesses their restaurants the people that have been unemployed helping with more testing in tracing and getting the vaccine out there that's the 1st step of normality you know we need i'm one of the authors of medicare for all it's one of the things that means the most to me
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it's most important public policy for me to pursue i will be a pain in the bazooka quite frankly to joe biden now on the subject but i believe we will take steps i believe my father in law was the author of social security in this country and my has for was one of the chief my father in law and my husband grew chief architects of medicare i think that the time comes from those kinds of changes when you come out of very difficult moments like we are out of code that i think the time now is for us to talk about those issues i think people understand what when we talk about i want to bring jobs back here i want to make national security one of the critical components and any procurement strategy when people didn't understand what a supply chain was until suddenly we're in the midst of cold it and we saw what was handling with p.p. equipment and had pendent we were on other countries and that we didn't have called
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the goods to make a fan belt or nurses and doctors but the minute they had no deal how do you deal with the fact that there's so little trust in government for years public trust in the federal government has hovered a near record. blows hasn't it trust in congress is very low just just 20 percent of us adults say they trust the government to do the right thing or ways or even most of the time just 20 percent arguably america is angrier and more divided than ever isn't it. coming out in front of ministration no question and by the way it's not just government there were only you see your own countries you see it it throughout europe people are mad in institutions they don't trust institutions we have to be built their foundations and we have to rebuild that trust and it doesn't come overnight but since the divisions in your own party a staring people in the face again how can you be in any way qualified to deal with those divisions in the country at large but. don't stop working and i
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think i've got a pretty good record finding that common ground between people. and the squad and more moderate is what you mean the left wing of the party well described as a don't see reshoot to event their friends alexandria cohen's yeah yeah yes but what we must do. it's have labor at the table the progress that's have to build a chamber that's large enough to have everybody had it i'm very committed to doing that and quite frankly already doing it but half the country debbie dingell simply doesn't believe the same truths that you do trump supporters believe overwhelmingly that your party stole the election it's not a fact it's an article of faith isn't it which makes you in the uncharted waters now joe biden talks about finding that sweet spot where democrats and republicans can negotiate to gether and i'm wondering where exactly that sweet spot would be
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with such people you have a staggering 220 out of 249 republicans in congress that a failed to give either a clear answer or any answer at all about who won the presidential election how do you find a sweet spot with people like that. professionally i know many of those people and i know i wish that they would have the courage to speak up a little more. but they do you know many of those people know that donald trump has lost the election one of the things that i'm the angriest about right now is in 6 standard period by rudy giuliani and the president is not resulting in anybody showing that the election was rigged or not handle in a very ethical manner but it is undermining people's confidence in the election outcome in the in the integrity we have to rebuild it look i didn't say this was going to be easy but can you i'm not going to be as negative as you are i know that
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ed i've not naive but you don't start something by thinking it's not that simple i believe it's rick some are and i'm going to work to do that when when you talk about truth and the truth deficit in american politics it's pretty difficult for joe biden to claim the moral high ground there isn't it the fact checking group ali defect compared to score card or some of his statements this year and the results why although no means comparable to donald trump was somewhat less than stellar weren't they does that matter to you. well i don't hope that they were someone less than stellar r.a.z.r. care somebody tells the truth and i want somebody to tell the truth you want me to tell you what really bothers me is social media which was founded in both ears in my lifetime to help bring people together and it's dividing us further because we don't have accountability i think you see in countries across the world trying to figure out how do we hold social media accountable so it does stop spreading some
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of these myths truce these lies and is actually factually accurate as an impacts are people think when joe biden according to politico fact has 1000 examples of false statements that he'd made during the campaign this year and a number of other statements were labeled hard true or mostly false that's not a proud record is it if if the only choice in america is between politicians who lie a little and those who lie a lot it's not surprising that the public doesn't trust any of you as a. i haven't seen this report and no it's not surprising but we have to live up we have to tell people the truth if you know we've you know our record and now for c.n.n. as it is it doesn't make you popular every single day but i will tell people exactly what i think and i think and what i believe and what the truth is whether they like it or not and that's what we've got to do as elected officials to rebuild
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confidence in government so you've got to get rid of the lies and the liars having to well i'm not quite prepared to conjure up by no liar the way you are i need to go look at this report but i do now donald trump has told a lot of florida so a lot of them have been in the last month. you've just have america's most expensive election ever what i've seen one estimate a whacking $14000000000.00 taking in both white house and congressional races you support campaign finance report you co-sponsored last year's for the people act that would have introduced some reforms to the system it cleared the house of representatives but you must have known it would die on its way to the senate so was this anything more than just a symbolic gesture well 1st of all you don't get anything done if you don't start and if you don't try. and we're going to try again if you want to get something done the fact of the matter is some things take more time than any of us want to
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see we were i mean well stanfield i'm a railroad more well maybe and more will to do it more you have to educate people you've got to build the coalition so if you have a piece of legislation that if passed and you're talking about it in states with republican senators but you create the demand by the people that elected them to do something you can adventurously get something that but your own is to get money out of american politics i think this is what i say that i like and that's just not going to happen though is it because the fact is that too many politicians from from both sides of they are benefit from loopholes that they don't want to see closed. well i and your partner is just as not her problem is and that is and i want to tell you something i think that there's nothing worse than fundraising i hate it i despise it everybody tells me i can t. so much more i've no desire to be the highest fundraiser i do what i have to do to
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get reelected i think i'll have people that feel like me and wish we could have a public option so that everybody had same and ryan had to run on the record in who they are and what their positions are you know this is negative you are every single day of the week i get nothing done but if you want to see change you start a fine print and work with many groups are trying on the ground to bring about change and i think we will look at change at some point more than the literally dozens scores hundreds of occasions on which people have have come into power saying we're going to reform campaign finance we're going to reform the political action committees it's been said by so many of your politicians over the years 203040 years i remember hearing about this it never happens do you seriously think you can get that money what was it to pony up the former speaker who said money is the mother's milk of american politics it was then still is isn't it. you know
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i could go through things and life that people said that would never change that they are changing i mean it is you have to stay at it you have to be willing to bring about change women were not allowed to vote it took hundreds of year a 100 years of women grodin to bring about the change now we've been allowed to vote for a 100 years blacks were reluctant it wasn't right you know change doesn't i've makes me angry i'd like to change a lot of things up or night but if i have your attitude not things are going to change nothing will change that's not the way our approach life i approached life he sings the change and this is how we're going to go try to get back let's look if we may there we didn't go and some of biden's early choices for senior jobs in his administration and seems to be some concern that in foreign policy at least there may be too many old faces from the obama years coming about like john kerry for
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instance who's going to be the administration's point man on climate change his mantra like biden just be normal steady unflashy decent but that didn't work so well last time around in foreign policy that it. how it depends who you're talking to i quite frankly think that our foreign policy is that into sastre we know what he and we got when you talk to other countries we haven't had normal diplomatic relationships ships in almost 4 years and steady calm dependable foreign power diplomatic relations is something we need we need to rebuild that respect the trust and confidence that other countries have and us i think it's just fine but it didn't work so well with a bomber biden administration did it i didn't agree with them on some things but it did work on a number of many other things so i mean there were caught napping when the russians seize crimea and 2014 the kremlin then told the us to get out of the way in the
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eastern mediterranean the kids of the arab spring were thrown under the bus when a bomb about egypt's military leaders who regularly tortured their opponents if all that's normal then you really don't want to go back to that do i would young want to go back to that i'm someone who's very act and been released you shoes and. a new great deal of attention but i certainly hope you don't think that things have been normal trumpets we've withdrawn from the world health organization as we've drawn was drawn from the paris peace accord and when you look at what our relationship is with china and russia a president that would meet and not tell us what he discussed wrist. with putin that's not normal so sorry i i am ready for what you might call doubt i call steady income one of one of the big issues in foreign policy always is israel and despite
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being jerusalem's closest ally the obama biden team last time around failed spectacularly to advance the peace process stop the growth of settlements or in the occupation. you wouldn't want to repeat any of that would you. incidentally your party's election platform conspicuously failed to mention but occupation then that was that despite the pressure from the progressive want is a 2 state solution it was once very much on the table and working for it many things have made them more pragmatic we need to deal with their human rights violations and palestine there are a lot of issues that need to be. dealt with i want peace in the middle east i'm going to be someone who is going to push this in mr ition to deal with it very significantly one is 1st since and we have a commitment for a st kilda muslim travel ban as just an aside as well so you know
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i i think there's a lot of hope. for the way that some things may be and may be handled and this is an area especially in the mideast i will be playing a great deal of attention to the iranian situation is another. situation of great concern only the u.s. has the power to change policy in israel if you're serious about doing that and helping palestinians to get a viable state then you're going to have to use a lot more of that power than you've ever done in the past on to that's a fact ability through because it's guys on tough enough to do that yes yes you talked about the allies the biden team has indicated it would like to rebuild relations with america's allies after the turmoil of the trump years the rudeness the unpredictability the orders and threats do you think you can paper over the diplomatic damage done by trump no we're not going to be prepared prover we're
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going to have to restructure our integrity we have to restore people's confidence in us we're going to have to act so that we build and we gain their trust. but leo no it's not something you do the way that we've handled a number of diplomatic relationships of the 4 years now and there were great mistakes made and you're trying to peel back that but those allies have learned an uncomfortable lesson from the term peers have and there's anger merkel said in 2017 there were good reasons to continue fighting for the transatlantic relationship but she said we can't count on it anymore the fact is the europeans can't be sure that trump or someone like him but becoming back in 4 years time and frankly you can't be sure that either kenya. i'm going to do everything i can to make sure that it doesn't happen and the congress republicans and democrats need to find a way to send a message to europe that they can count on us as things stand debbie dingell trumbo
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is leaving you to pick up the pieces from a pandemic that he failed disastrously to control thousands more may die before the vaccine gets to work one in 3 adults say their families are hungry one in 4 small businesses can't stay open. a united party would struggle to get any kind of handle on the situation a divided one like yours will struggle even more won't it look nobody thinks of me as this i'm not as debbie downer ok let's just because i say it as it is i don't try to be down compensate very serious problem we have failed to have a leader that's done we had my hat or had any kind of national plan but i think that people are tired and fatigued and they're dying and they're scared and they're ready to have a leader. you're going to see joe biden come in could together a national plan put people in charge it's not going to happen overnight all of us
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around the world are going to have a very difficult winter that if we listen to the scientists we listen to the experts we know that mass save lives then hopefully with a vaccine which we need to make sure is available locally to everybody then this is going to get under control and i think i don't think the party i don't know how many nasty came so political so debate about the certainly not now the countries but i think joe biden will inspire people to wear their masks for the 1st 100 days will see numbers going down that seems will become available we have to build people's confidence up in that seems and i'm hoping next christmas life's going to be more normal for many people if you look at the difficulty now of agreeing a stimulus package with the republicans in congress you can expect much help from
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them can you even in this process i'm donald trump hasn't exactly shown much empathy for the suffering and the bereavement that's taken place in such large numbers across america i think with the right leader you will you will get enough votes to be able to do what we have to do i think you've even. it seems senator mcconnell recognizes that people in kentucky are you can be how you can be in any of your states and with some people that you represent and not understand how scared people are how much they need but they're playing politics tell you they will want you to fail so they can come back in 4 years time and say hey look what a lousy job the democrats do you know how the city like you are i actually think that there are people that want to get elected and both parties because they want to help the people they represent so there may be a few that are oh we can't let them win but i think there are a lot of people that are seeing the human suffering in their just tricks and more
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