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and to see. the scene of the tragedy i've. secrets because it starts december 25th. this is news and these are our top stories a u.s. government advisory panel has endorsed widespread use of the by own take pfizer coronavirus vaccine putting the country just one step away from launching a mass vaccination campaign the food and drug administration is expected to follow the recommendation and approve the vaccine meaning the rollout could begin within days. a year leaders have agreed a massive long term budget in coronavirus recovery package that's after resolving
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a dispute with hungary and poland who had earlier vetoed the deal the 1.8 trillion euros package is considered vital for the continent's battered economies and for tackling the coronavirus pandemic. the head of germany's disease control agency has urged people not to travel as a christmas he says contacts need to be cut by at least 60 percent to bring coronavirus numbers down new infections in germany rose by over 23000 on thursday in new delhi record and more than 20000 people have now died from coves at 19. this is d.w. news from berlin there's more on our website today w dot com. for . the coronavirus is ravaging the united states just last week the daily death toll
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from code 19 hit a record high of more than 2800 yesterday a new record more than 3000 and remember the thanksgiving holiday it was 2 weeks ago today the surge from that super spreader event is only now beginning and hospitals are already flooded with coated patients testing the u.s. to city of america's health care system like never before how much more before it snaps i'm burnt off in berlin this is the day. when you hear that every 30 seconds in america any stunning you know that we are out of. control is still a lot of virus out there making people really special at this point striving to get back to some kind of wearing a mask physical distancing avoiding grounds that should. as we get into the back
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seat. back then it's going to improve for a few months after people get there but for me. also coming up big trouble for big tech almost every u.s. state has joined the u.s. government to sooth facebook they argue there was nothing fair and square when the social media company became a social media giant. for nearly a decade facebook has used its dominance and monopoly power to crush smaller rivals and snuff out competition all at the expense of everyday users. but to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and to all of our viewers around the world welcome we begin the day with america's coronavirus carnage in the united states the virus is spreading out of control 288000 people in the u.s. have died in coven 19 in just the last week the daily death toll has gone from one
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record high to the next on wednesday there were 185000 new cases reported of the vaccines against the virus cannot come quickly enough and they won't public health officials say it will probably be the summer of 2021 before enough people have been inoculated to reach what is known as herd immunity but only enough people decide to get vaccinated the death toll by february the middle of winter is expected to reach 450000 hospitals across the u.s. are already at their limits in terms of space and personnel consider the state of south dakota the governor has refused to issue a stay at home order there has never been a walk till our next report on the consequences. south dakota one of america's least populated states but yet the virus has spiraled
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out of control here like nowhere else in the u.s. . in the city of sue false a mask mandate was put in place recently without sanctions many citizens remain defiant i think it's a good idea that people wear masks but some people balk at the idea of being told to do so i think with some of the shutdowns are doing and the picking and choosing that they're doing is making it very difficult for lot of businesses like most of the people nowadays like even ehlers are not right now but i think it's for the best like there's happy. south dakota now sees the highest hospitalisation rate of the u.s. and there is no relief in sight here at the vera mccann in hospital the intensive care unit is at capacity patients are dying from cold but on a daily basis is putting a big strain on nurses and doctors who are increasingly overwhelmed by the amount of patients they're seeing every day. out of schroeder is
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one of them he and his colleagues are working 12 hour shifts trying to save those who are at the brink of death. a task which comes with the personal toll we deal with a lot of dying right now unfortunately not everybody is recovering how we'd like. it a little harder every day people are coming in typically requiring much oxygen a lot of them end up getting a breathing tube. and from there you know it's just a battle for their life you talk to their families we do that's one of the tougher things right now is especially for code patients were not allowing visitors so. talking with families on a daily basis updating him on what we're doing and how the patients doing that's a really big thing right now i kind of see and understand his weekly press conference mayor paul 10 hakan of the republican party updates his community about
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the latest developments the mayor has been criticized over his handling of the pandemic has its place with the mass. why is it such a challenge for you to convince your sentence and. in this part of the country i think there's a fierce independence a lot of people have made the mistake of calling a cowboy country at one point and people didn't appreciate that but the point of that term meaning we're independent we don't like people telling us what to do. christina bjorkman wishes for more government action against the penn demick told her she lost her husband to call that 19 after a 30 day long struggle at the hospital or. when. she says his death could have been avoided with stricter rules. the whole mask mandate got political and shannon never been political and should have been a medical thing. and i think it just got so blown out of proportion
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and i think maybe it came from our president he started it. christina bjorkman is pinning her hopes now on the president elect and a nationwide mask mandate once he takes office before then thousands more could die from cold at 19 in south dakota and the rest of the united states. well america between hope and helplessness let's put in dr schaffner he's professor at vanderbilt university in tennessee he's one of the u.s. is leading infectious disease experts dr schaffner it's good to see you again welcome back to the program this is the week that we saw the u.k. roll out its vaccination program we want to let our vote viewers know you're a member of the c.d.c.'s advisory committee on immunization practices what has the u.s. been able to learn and glean from the u.k. . well it's good to be with you and i think one of the things that we've learned
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right away is that unexpected things will happen because on that very 1st day of vaccination in the u.k. they had 2 patients individuals i should say with allergic reactions noteworthy allergic reactions none of those had appeared during the clinical trials so we knew this in advance but there was right in front of us we have to expect the unexpected and so as we go about trying to vaccinate in the united states alone 330000000 people we are going to have some bumps in the road that we had best be prepared for and part of the way to deal with that in advance is to have very clear communication with people so they know what to expect with those allergic reactions in the u.k. do they change the calculus at all when you're looking at this new vaccine.
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i think they don't at all change the calculus but they may add an exclusion category going forward that's still being discussed by the advisory committee but in any event this is such an effective dexie and the studies show that so far it's so very safe that we can confidently go ahead recommended to our population but then we'll have to reach out to all of the segments of our diverse population here in the united states particularly people of color who are of different ethnicities those are the communities that have been very hard hit by the virus and we want to make sure that those communities have the information so that they can make good decisions for themselves and their family members and we hope those decisions are to come forward and be vaccinated if they want to give vaccinated doctors after is the infrastructure in place to ship and to deliver
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a coronavirus vaccine immediately well of the vaccine will be shipped to places where it will go have been determined and all of those places have been plenty how to organize the vaccination campaigns so everyone's at the starting line we're ready to run the race and we're ready to get going and i think it will be done successfully u.s. president elect joe biden has called for 100000000 vaccinations in his 1st 100 days in office that sounds good it's easy to remember is that possible. it's an aspirational goal we would hope that we could do something that profound of course we have to have the vaccine and then we have to organize everybody coming in for most of us are looking beyond the 1st 100 days this will take several months and during that time just as dr fox he said in your setup piece we'll all have to keep
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wearing our masks social distancing avoiding large groups as we continually to the people who are protected in our population and maybe by this time next year we can celebrate the holidays in a more near normal fashion yeah i think everyone will agree with you that hopefully within a year from now we'll be able to do that what about between now and let's say the start of next spring how grim is the outlook in the united states. well i'm afraid that this virus is being transmitted throughout the united states furch really over the entire country in a rather uninhibited fashion at the present time there are so many people who have coded fatigue that they have cast their masks aside and are going about it meeting in groups and traveling and every family get togethers over the holidays those are
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transmission circumstances those are accelerating events that that actually encourage transmission of the virus and then of course people bring it home and it's transmitted in families and in neighborhoods so we're all down this is going to be a hard winter and the medical care system will be as you say stretched you and i spoke earlier this year as the pandemic was 1st making itself known in the u.s. when you consider all that's been learned in experience since then if you could go back to january or february what is the one thing that you think should be changed or you would change. i would change the link things of having a 1st of all recognition of what the problem is then deciding that we have to have a national not a state wide strategy and then clear honest straight communication
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and i would put it put the public health officials in the front and kept the pull politicians in the background supporting public health that would have been a much more effective strategy men ne of these deaths could have been prevented wise words from dr bill schaffner vanderbilt university of tennessee tonight dr jeffrey prefigured time and your insides of everything you're doing to help people thank you for only have i not been so used to. by using its. data and money facebook has squashed or hindered what the company perceived as potential threats they reduce choice for consumers they stifled innovation and they degraded privacy protections for millions of americans. and that was the attorney general of new york announcing a lawsuit that you could almost call the entire united states against facebook
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almost all of the states along with the federal trade commission are suing facebook for illegally killing competition they argue that the company should be broken up my colleague reporter jill dougherty is on this story for us i mean you've got a kings here were facebook it is a giant but it became a giant by buying up smaller companies what's wrong with that well read you a quote directly from mark zuckerberg the regulators said they found in one of his e-mails now in 2008 zuckerberg wrote it is better to buy than compete now that summarizes the alleged misconduct that went on here because under u.s. antitrust law it's illegal for companies to buy off their rivals in order to get rid of competition now the f.t.c. says that's exactly what facebook has done and what it calls a buy and bury strategy you have to remember that facebook started in the desktop era and when smartphones came along it was really threatened by these new apps that let people share photos more easily and messages more easily and rather than
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improve its own services facebook used its financial power to buy out these rivals an effective effectively create a monopoly in social media and messaging and regulators say it has gone too far and what's been the response from facebook will mark zuckerberg has previously said that breaking up his company would be an existential threat that he will go to the mat to fight it and he thinks he will win integrating all of these apps and adding more that's really the backbone of his growth strategy and you have to also remember that this regulator the f.t.c. gave facebook for mission to make these takeovers in the 1st place a couple of years ago and now the company put out a statement on twitter where it said years after the f.t.c. clear acquisitions the government now wants a do over with no regard for the impact that the president would have on the broad a business community or the people who use our products every day and facebook has weathered many legal storms before just last year was fined $5000000000.00 for privacy. breaches the european commission is currently carrying out its own
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antitrust investigation into some of its practices but this case is different because in this case the f.t.c. is calling for the company to be broken up into smaller entities that are separate from each other and it's hard for facebook to argue that it's not everywhere in its own sector i mean it owns whatsapp it owns instagram as well yet and we can give you some numbers there it has 2360000000 active daily users according to its own numbers that's up by 12 percent since last year and all of these apps that it has purchased is integrating them tightly and as if to illustrate that today on social media the biggest talking point about facebook was not about these antitrust issues it was about a simple taney a service outage that occurred that meant that users from multiple apps were unable to send messages and that really illustrates how this is going to be difficult is going to be a difficult legal case it's also going to be difficult technically if they want to try it on wind the companies and it's not clear that's going to be popular because many people use these apps and it's not really clear that users are quite as upset
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by these monopolistic an anti-competitive practices as other regulators that that's true maybe resistance is futile we will find bill as always thank you ard let's take this story over to the u.s. my next guest is an authority on antitrust law in america i'm happy to welcome george hay to the program mr he is a professor of law and economics at cornell law school in new york state professor hey it's good to have you on the program with this how do you see this has facebook become a giant by buying up all of its possible rivals well the claims are very limited that it has made a lot of acquisitions there are only 2 claims identified and at the time both of those rivals were quite small you have to see believe no there's a possibility that if left alone those rivals could have become much larger and pose a serious threat to face book. every exit there are many acquisitions of competitors
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all the time that are allowed. and not challenge or the challenge and show it doesn't succeed but if he sees claims of these acquisitions while small time were different in the sense that they could have grown much much larger and enough to pose a threat to facebook now that remains to be proved. what about the argument from facebook that it has grown thanks to purchases that were approved by the u.s. government the f.t.c. i mean can the government respond we always have the right to change our minds. there's no well there's no legal obstacles there's no question. whether or not that should have been a policy when the laws were enacted different story but the government certainly isn't title to go back and say with the wisdom of hindsight we believe those acquisitions were in a competitor so there's no legal obstacle now the government cunt have to explain why it is they decided this wasn't a problem back at the time. and it could be things in the government's files which
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make quite damaging to their current case but there's no specific legal obstacle to coming in 6 years after the fact and saying we now believe those mergers were in a competitive but is it in sales professor i mean to correct me if i'm wrong but it sounds like the f.t.c. is saying that. facebook should have known back then what was going to happen and if that's the case should the f.t.c. also have known back then that this was going to happen when it approved those purchases. well the f.t.c. czar even a facebook didn't know what was happening. though that you reference those e-mails from her you know if he she needed didn't see there was a time period they didn't didn't anticipate the argument. and so yes that that's a problem with what again there's no legal obstacle they simply have to make the case that that those acquisitions should never been permitted and would do them
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fine cited to have contributed to my microsoft to a facebook's monopoly there is so much political will at the moment against big tech bipartisan support for regulating social media almost every state attorney general has joined this lawsuit i mean what does facebook have going for it at the moment other than lots of cash. whether they've got the courts that is to say. although we have now is an allegation a complaint and it really looks good when you read only the government side or only the state side but at the end of the day they've got to prove this in a court of law and if they the f.t.c. is going to prove that these acquisitions might have grown to really compete against facebook's core business and that's not that easy what does facebook have a monopoly what's the market. what about twitter what about you tube what about tick tocks a lot of things which have to be proven and courts are not always that sympathetic to government argument all right george
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a professor of law and economics at law school professor here we appreciate your time your insights tonight thank you. happy to help. christmas is only 2 weeks away and there are reports from the u.s. to the u.k. to you right here in berlin that more people than usual are decking the whole sales of everything from trees to garland are up this year and it's not only homes this is what travelers see when they arrive here in berlin at the central train station now germany is known around the world for its christmas markets it's a tradition that goes back 700 years last year there were $3000.00 markets across the country they generated nearly 3 and a half $1000000000.00 in sales this is what these in dom and mark christmas market in central berlin look like last year it's one of the city's upscale markets and
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this well that's the same square right now the corona virus pandemic the lock down social distancing they have stolen much of the magic that you find it these markets only a small fraction of vendors are setting up shop this month and they're hoping that there will be customers but most people will tell you they visit these christmas markets for the socializing huddling together in the cold warming their hands with mugs of hot mold wine a perfect spreader event for the coronavirus it is that threat which prompted the city of nurenberg to cancel this year's market germany's most famous nuremberg is located in bavaria where the corona virus is giving new meaning this season to silent night. this is christmas eve as it gets back in 2020 usually the central market square is bustling with the city's famous christmas market at this time of the year but it was cancelled weeks ago and now the city
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center has become almost ghostly. only fruit and vegetables on offer but no one comes to buy them. and it's been working here for 3 decades he says he's never seen his city so empty. feels it's all full for us there's no christmas here no no tourists it's terrible just look the market square is completely empty. and it's the same all over the city the state government has asked variance to only leave their homes if they have valid reasons like going grocery shopping this it in the doctor or going to work wearing a mask is compulsory in most areas of the city center partial school closures a ban on alcohol in public places and a nighttime curfew complete the strictest lockdown in germany police have increased their presence in the city center to remind people to stick to the rules but for
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now this little resistance they tell us. of course there are people who intentionally defy the rules there have been incidents of people refusing to cooperate when police tell them to wear masks but luckily those people are really the exception. a number of us seem very conscious of the risks the city faces right now and they're willing to play along all the people we speak to think the authorities should be even tougher. is in the monitors that we think the lockdown is absolutely justified there's just no alternative at the moment the restrictions should be tightened even further for shift soile the mystery matter that this was very much needed and the fact that everything's been kept open for all the business in the run up to christmas that's a very corporate driven attitude even the numbers are higher than ever so in fact i think we'll need even tougher measures like in spring i don't just mean and we're
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going to be in fear i think if i'm totally fine with it because there are so many people suffering and people not taking this seriously should see what it looks like in hospitals. and that discriminate and getting worse every day at the moment more than 180 people are being treated in hospitals for cope with 19 and while that doesn't sound much it means that hospitals are working at capacity over the past weekend for the 1st time ever patients had to be moved to hospitals in surrounding areas to make sure they get the treatment they need to survive that scares people including those who are suffering from the effects of the lockdown that is already in effect like market trader do you need to go on the 2 things are hard lock down is the best option now there are 3 and we've just got to get through this and maybe things will get better back to its base or maybe even in time for christmas for that known back as
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a willing to make sacrifices in the weeks ahead. well the day is almost done but the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter either d.w. news or you can follow me of brant goth t.v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day to stay healthy and stay safe and good.
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let's talk about drugs. it's a huge business worldwide. we made one of the 1st illegal can of responders in china. and pioneers in growing medical marijuana in denmark plus we want to find out is the east cigarette hype a lot of hot air. made. the 60 minutes d w. in the far north. it's lonely. and breathtakingly beautiful. the arctic. to take a journey around the north pole profiteers and talk with people experiencing
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a changing environment. the ice disappears earlier and it keeps retreating our future depends on what happens here. northern lights within the arctic circle starts december 21st t.w. . a warm welcome to this week that is and i'll focus on europe thanks for joining us today more and more migrants are hoping to reach the u.k. now because they fear at gregg's the deal may make it tougher to enter the country dreams of a better life are leaving them to embark on the risky journey from france across the british channel. some are getting on my knee boats using shovels as paddles
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their goal is to reach the wide cliffs of the english coast the coast guard often has to help migrants in this press because the crossing is so dangerous most migrants are aware of how risky it is to cross the english channel they know they may drown in the icy water and yet 100 still set out from the french ports city of cully in hopes of reducing the british city of dover now authorities and friends are stepping up efforts to prevent my words from making this dangerous journey it's a daily cat and mouse game between the migrants and the french police. because. french police are on patrol in a life situation that migrants might have hidden joy in the journey before crossing to britain and they struck lucky 3 backpacks with personal belongings. to saddam. and an outboard in
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a chair for yourself you know a few metres further visiting the. property bodies inside the function of this is the boat it's still very new that's current together it's not heavy. the police beat the refugees to the scene they wanted to leave the same night it's more than 40 kilometers across the icy cold sea to the english port of dover. and probably a few are perfectly prevented a crossing that could have ended in a fatal disaster. which too small and the engine is not strong enough by far most likely they would have capsized. 90 french policemen a financed by the british government to come on the coast the mission is to prevent refugees from reaching british soil. something more i mean this is probably
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a gasoline come history. it must have been lying here for a long time with. john down and no grew up here he knows the beaches like the back . over is over there. i wouldn't venture to see in this weather. further out the waves are 3 to 4 metres high. it's a dangerous passage narrow with huge container ships and tankers. a few weeks ago an entire kurdish family drowned in saying it wasn't an isolated incident nevertheless several 1000 refugees afloat to have made it to britain this year. many more refugees are prepared to risk their lives they come from example from eritrea around. most of them have enjoyed enormous
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hardships and paid smugglers a fortune to get this far they see the police as a threat. this young man abdullah is a refugee he tells us he comes from sudan he was persecuted and they had full fled to germany where he studied computer science but his asylum application was rejected they didn't believe his story of. studies in germany at the university in seguin and still i'm not allowed to work i'm not allowed to do anything and nothing makes sense anymore. after wants to apply for asylum in britain he's already tried to cross the english channel by boat but the police caught him it was a traumatic experience. yes they were very aggressive the french police were very aggressive. when you tried crossing by boat exactly the police beat me twice.
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the refugees aren't allowed to leave but they are welcome to stay either several people tell us that the task force used tear gas and destroy their tents again and again pitches a daily police arrest meant that a refugee posted online. now after wants to hide in a truck and reach britain via the channel tunnel a safer trip than by boat. but later the police find a refugee with sniffer dogs giving up is out of the question for abdo he will try again. though persecuted by the police the refugees are supported by aid organizations. works for utopia $56.00 which distributes clothes to refugees he's convinced of the controls to nothing. awarded all the controls only results in the refugees taking greater and greater risks and more of
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them and of drowning the refugees are afraid of the police so they get into an adequate boat night sometimes the weather is bad but they try their luck anyway no matter how many gendarmes they use the number of refugees who want to go to britain does not decrease. crossing in the eyes of the ritchie cheese a final chance for a better life. we accompanied assured us that their unit behaves correctly. your job we do it with a tough hand but we remain humane our goal is to save lives. when we ask what's the solution for the refugees the police have no answer they say it's not their responsibility and so the game of hide and seek continues in the genes he callaway. have you ever asked yourself where the material for the clothes you're
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wearing comes from well the cotton maybe from turkey it's the leading cotton supplier in europe and it also has a booming textile industry but the demand for fast fashion a round the world may be forcing turkish children to work on cotton farms although the turkish government says it has officially banned child labor each harvest tens of thousands of miners have to toil away in the scorching heat. the sun is so hot stings. but 10 year old seville i picks the cotton tirelessly. while elsewhere other children her age play or go to school civilian or siblings have to work in the field with their parents and relatives. we asked severely whether she ever had any free time well after breakfast my father says come on let's go and work and in the afternoon my mother tells me to look up to my younger sister. she was upset when we
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asked if she ever had any free time to play. and that is 12 years old. has been driving a tractor since he was 10. he says that he enjoys the art of picking cotton is tough. every year he works in the fields for up to 2 months. that's how long the harvesting takes. a jury in this time keep the children don't go to school to learn optional tebbutt we pick cotton from 6 in the morning to 6 at night he when the sun the whole time it's always the same and the same for all of my friends. but your father shenouda with you tonight for the children. dreams of a better future. he wants to be a policeman. i want to have a steady income and i want my children to have
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a better life than me. civilities mother also works in the fields with the children. she told us that she is not happy that her daughters have to pick cotton. resisters 1st class we want our children to go to school we want to offer them a good live. but we don't have any choice we have to make cotton it's my what can we do if we don't word we don't have any money but i believe that china should stay . the families who work here come from villages as far as 50 kilometers away during the harvest they live in tents. every fall tens of thousands of children work to help their families get through the winter even though child labor is officially banned in turkey. but there is no social welfare to.
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the owner of the land rama zone and knows the children are not supposed to work. families can't leave their children anywhere they come from separate the line and you. would have no alternative but to stay with their families they should go to school but who would take care of them so they're here to do in the harvest they have fetch water for the lot. but the families are paid per kilo of cotton $0.08 per kilo seville i can pick about 20 kilos per day. that's one euro 60. driver fee professor said that's bennett has been conducting research into seasonal workers for years. he was cautious when we asked who was responsible for the fact that up to $50000.00 children work in the fields for several months each year. everyone knows the situation because of the corona virus
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pandemic in your seville i should be in front of a computer receiving online lessons but she's doing something different and the economic situation doesn't allow her to do anything else even if she wanted to there's no computer those responsible are the key players in our society. does everyone know yes well anything be done you know. how you. know so surveillance 12 year old sister when she's finished picking cotton she helps to wash laundry she also works the whole day remember the mock them. getting i don't want to be here. i want to go to school. but it's hard to earn a living i think school lesson is a much nicer. i'd rather go to school don't work here.
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for mother does not think that her children have very good future prospects i think children's future looks like their parents feature on the way they're going to be working in the fields to. a long day in the cotton fields come to an end of eli and nurse i'll sit by the fire for a while. maybe nurse opon tears over her feet before she can only dream of a better future. this is what's a proper english garden looks like impeccably kept great design a feast for the eyes but now there is an initiative in eastern england which encourages land owners to let go of this perfect large leyton as one of the founders of the project called wild beasts he is returning 20 percent of his family
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estates to nature meaning wild animals and plants can grow and thrive as they want some of his neighbors are a bit skeptical of the idea but at least the animals love their new found freedom. for. these large black says they are called and not to dig around in the ground almost anywhere on a summer like new state in the east of england team is a secret weapon of sorts for the a station owner and farmer some late. they're very efficient you can you can afford to have called on the pigs for quite a short time to get the to. the ground to allow open space for new seeds build some a late stage of the 20 square kilometers and he calls the mansion home t.j. sometimes provide space for all the animals to roam freely half of the stereotypical english moon the station is allowing nature to completely greeks live
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on one 5th of his property. his father also ran a farm part of the conventional source where it would have been unthinkable for council teams to want to rush up to the doorstep had always been very keen on. nature and wanting to do things better my dad particularly found it very frustrating he had a sort of almost victorian hangover of tightness. and we clashed a bit on that. you know it's so malaysians pigs are slaughtered but at the same time they also help conserve nature by lending trying to bio diversity to the virus to a phone species had run rampant take to centuries and the piece of meat to keep it in chink. in order to. you know stimulate the soil so that the seabed to throw seabed underneath we need to disrupt brocken and their view as soon as they've completed their task peaks to leech of forest again if you just
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have pigs you'll only have this and that's the disaster of a different guy and so you know one has to control so rewarding is is a great term but in that sense it's farming so we're going to try and keep the balance right between different species to try and get the perfect sort of habitats to get the most biodiverse environment. every little son of nathan and those who share his convictions try to win over their neighbors most nearby farm and ask him to call the i called. resist change at restaurants particularly traditional farmers and rewarding especially nothing new in that perspective it's always stated that you know i mean to say. that there's not there's a lot of people breaking on it but hopefully will win win right and benchley hopelessly. don't simulate or doesn't agree that only wealthy landowners can afford to conserve nature.

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