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i'm british manager welcome to news asia glad you could join us a new report from a u.s. based think tank claims authorities in china west are forcing hundreds of thousands of ethnic minorities to work in the region's cotton fields. china's northwest produces about 20 percent of the world's cotton cotton that is potentially making its way into the manufacturing chains. as you probably remember from the new models times we have reported on chinese reeducation camps where experts believe some 1000000 anthony. and other mostly minorities have been in thailand as a counter measure inmates who've been released have complained of beatings and indoctrination in chinese communist party thought here's mall. scenes of a family l.t. with 0. the husband to assume john and their little daughter by are in turkey
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a safe location for now. but for good 0 a normal life is still far away she says she does not feel safe anywhere the months of the cold i still wake up from nightmares in which i see myself in a chinese internment camp again the images and memories of the interrogations of the beatings and the things they did to him and their haunt me i then feel sick for a few days and i can't sleep i argue with my family i even think about hurting myself. in 2017 good 000 han was arrested in sin jun china's westernmost region she's an ethnic aza born in china and was living in cars are stunned at the time on a trip back to china she was detained by police and then head for a year in several reeducation camps. although they tortured us they had cameras everywhere you were not allowed to pass scratch your head or cry if they saw that
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they would force you want to a metal chair they would make you sit there for 12 hours 24 hours you were tied to the chair and if you tried to move it would get tighter then they make you repeat chinese words that you didn't know if you forgotten they used electroshock device on your head. back in kazakhstan her family did not know where she was at the same time authorities in china suddenly started to detain large numbers of the region's muslim minorities the local government sought to portray the camps as well cation the training centers g.r.u. . the training centers are not at all like some media have described them young students are not mistreated and their personal freedoms are not limited to she usually sees are schools that help improve people's personal qualities. she sutured this usually. i travel to the region to look for myself one of the camps 0
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was taken to was middle school number 4 county satellite imagery shows how in 2018 a high wall was built around the school and huts were built in the courtyard today the school is back to what it was china has declared that all trainees had graduated a claim that is hard to very fine and other facility where she was held sits just around the corner it is officially called a vocational technical school. it was built in 2017 a high wall was later taken down and replaced with a fence its name is not found on educational websites official reports highlight that all trainees were farmers and herdsman from surrounding villages in this area that means mostly ethnic minorities it is impossible to know under what circumstances they attend the school and while this does not look like
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a high security prison the gates are closed the young men walk quietly in lines before entering the building they undergo a quick body check i am stopped by my mind. you can't keep up with that. because you're also told us that many of our former inmates were later transferred to regular prisons on the outskirts of 2 more facility. there are now 5 policemen follow in. a prison with watch towers and another camp where both built in 2017 when the campaign against ethnic minorities took off. there was nothing left. no one town if you film here we will have to take measures against you on this place is a state secret rooms on the beaches. 0 stayed more than a year in the camp but even after she was officially released her ordeal continued on our way back we passed an industrial complex. 0 was sent to work here after her
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release state t.v. showcases the factory as a model of successful poverty eradication. i'm getting free food and accommodation it is very good. these videos are show off to the outside world their messages our nation is good people are being helped to make a living but no one works there voluntarily many women inside cried a lot there is no freedom there are cameras everywhere you are you have the bad day threaten you. if you refuse to work here you will go learning we were working there because of fear. or to go learning means being sent back to the camp with 0 was told she was detained because she had been to cause us than that was seen as a sign of being disloyal to china more and more observers are now calling what is
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happening in the region a genocide after reports of forced birth control. and abortions in the camp to 0 because the inmates were administered injections of them unknown substance. while local after the injection some woman stopped having their periods those who still had it were given one pad they had to use it for 2 or 3 days if their period would come it would come if not not we stopped being ashamed about it at some point we didn't stop thinking of home most of us had stopped crying by then when i meet will . whose ear is one of the lucky ones she was finally allowed to leave after her husband had can paint for her and cause us she has no news from her relatives in the region. and for more i'm joined by. his president of the world we go to congress mr he said china's actions in these reeducation camps have been reported on and well documented for many years now do you think the world has acted
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sufficiently against this. well as you say it is also illegal to genocide. nice. like me and several through the court but unfortunately. yes is some international reaction and just speeding talking but the hands he needed not actually can stop the good you know stop it is the target so that's my problem too little much money goldman sachs who is. too easy to read a book really little guidance and much more and our leaders are to see it but i guess you have see all the the us government. actions on. chimes go on and type of mission times are i know who had
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a drink he was a little genocide forced in or all of his clothes and yeah but. whole lot of you can't see any contrary action from said i didn't know you meant country or some other country is the problem that's like chinese government continue continually and it is. not to see an ingenious i mean. there are there on you said that the genocide again so we good people has been internationally recognized yet of despite of the international criminal court has said it can't pursue or case against china for the interim of the we goes and other ethnic minorities do you think that legitimizes china's claims that these camps are just vocational training centers. well i see even if not you know caught yes this is a good start when you get it p.
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. but this is the process of international call you don't know that china is not the number of international this is the reason solo you can't understand this but on the national board the international organization action that if you do go early and legal action so that's why he says he does this all the ocean this. independent people who know the article was in china so all know and it said under any notice it is yes we will try will. go into my show you are not she said not to go in there people were not so he whole this is all even all that he didn't try to not kind of. course you know that old saw no new revelations that ethnic minorities in trend are
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being forced into picking cotton in the region and cotton that is making its way into global supply chains is this something that requires a trend from the international community. she has this is this is. even worse than this is hillary and you just cited some company separately this is the lot so. it is also about as government genocide the day and how do the told that we were forced to live world and in so many distant company could you knew who we were and the we would be in there too little was near and she fell on what is never so what we call the whole the going men and particularly does the government and the company should not be taught should not be thought of china is. this
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a crime against humanity genocide and so but i saw so many in this in a company called gimmick if not her kind of business and it was all so to mud huts why the company should be slaughtered he says not an issue to stop the use of those little we were taught even though only they can stop china don't produce are we live of there thank you so much for joining us i tend to yours . that's it for there's of course more on this subject on the did other dot com. relieve you now with images from across the ocean journey over the past few years for many of the cities have seen an increased security presence alongside a mosque internment program for me to come to terms and provide economic development for a better more of the same time with to them about. the
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fate of against the coronavirus pandemic. as the rate of infection in developing what does the latest research say. information and contact the coronavirus update. on t w. can you hear me now yes yes we can hear you and how the last years german sounds now when you bring your uncle out man caught and you've never had to have before surprise yourself with what is possible who is medical really
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what moves and also who talked to people who followed her along the way admirers and critics alike how is the world's most powerful woman shaping public and joining us from eccles last stop. testing is key to beating covert 19. genetic material from the virus can tell us who's infected and who needs to be quarantined to stop it from spreading so fast. a person's antibodies can show us who has some immunity to the virus so lockdowns can be lifted and people can get back to. the trade off between speed price and accuracy mean.
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it is good to have you with us several nations have started vaccinating their citizens but the corona virus is far from beat which means detecting it is still a prime objective a german and scientists has been developing ways to not only test many people quickly cheaply and to stop chains of infection but also enable folks to go on with their lives. is supposed to take off from munich to hamburg in about an hour travelers don't just have to show their boarding passes they also have to show a negative test for the coronavirus germany's biggest airline hopes the covert 1000 tested flights program will make passengers feel comfortable flying again during the pandemic.
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center is just a few steps away here medical personnel take a throat swab and analyze it using an to gen rapid tests these work by detecting proteins on the virus surface the result is available after around 15 minutes without the. need for. the tests are produced by companies like farm act they started developing rapid tests for covert $1000.00 shortly after the start of the pandemic the 1st step is an antibody test that uses a drop of blood to determine whether a person has had previous contact with the virus or is currently infected. next comes the antigen test like the one used. it detects the virus directly and can
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determine whether someone could infect other people. for the common we talked about how can we make tests that will function everywhere without the need for a large infrastructure behind let's say in the jungle or in southeast asia on a small island. is. the goal is to be able to test many people quickly and cheaply to stop chains of infection and to do this worldwide even in regions that do not have a well developed infrastructure. started producing large numbers of tests within a few weeks working together with a family business that usually supplies the automotive an electrical industries. stuns a system of discipline yes the whole system can now be scaled up so we're able to produce $300000.00 units per week for farm act. so that is the moral summation put
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into it the more economical the whole thing also becomes in terms of production and . the tests only cost a few euros a fraction of the more common p.c.r. test that can only be evaluated not a trader. at munich airport all the passengers have now completed their coronavirus rapid tests and after a few minutes they get the results back. reliability is between 95 and 98 percent are currently verifying dosh by retesting each sample with a p.c.r. test. the tested flights concept seems well received by passengers. i think it's ok certainly as an alternative to not traveling the whole process is quick you have your results in 10 minutes it's what you hoped i don't have anything negative at this. test and although i think it's better for the people it's better for the community we're flying here. what works for getting on
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a plane could also make major events such as concerts football games or just going to the cinema possible again because the coronavirus pandemic is likely to be with us for some time to spike the availability of vaccines. so knowing whether you have caught the virus or not will remain important information of course for more on this let's bring in marcus hippy he's a biologist at the german research center for environmental health he joins me via skype from munich welcome to w. mark is when it comes to the antibody test many people of the most the most of them the most important question is does a positive test result mean i'm immune. so if you're immune to the virus this is on. and it can not tell you. if you were to say if you're immune you have to do a neutralization essay where you can prove that your antibody prevents the virus
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from entering your cells. until now antibody tests have not been considered particularly reliable that's why you used a new method on a large scale study what did that look like. so that there are also some. kind of care casts that are reliable want to redo. we did look for our own antibodies then a year later and that you see. especially what we what our method looks like was that we do going to test so we get a screening test and then a confirmation test again for antibodies against 2 different proteins so. the special about this is that really just specificity of 100 percent meaning that we will not be take any holes as it tips so we're really required to true prevalence and tell us more on the result of your study though we scrupulous
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screened children in bavaria germany aged one to 18 years and what we are on from january 2020 through july was a 6 fold higher prevalence of antibodies that compared. the reported cases and also happen to children that had antibodies that were absent and that they. had does a higher incidence of antibodies in the population mean that more people are already immune to the virus so late in the 1st question and. you would know if this is the short answer but if you test you if you do these new trees a shoe size and you can prove specially these antibodies you're testing and that they also confer immunity then in principle this is right the more people actually
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use immunizing antibodies then of course the more people are in. but from a single antibody test without these new pretties i mean so you cannot compute. in recent recent faction numbers have been rising to very high levels here in germany what do you think is the reason for that. so people the reason is that there are really are more infections and more or less the transmission of contraction got out of control not like it was during the summer with lower numbers where back tracing was also possible this is not possible anymore and of course there's also more testing but also the positive rate goes up so it's not just the number of tests that goes up there really are more infections magazine they have the german research center for an environmental health thank you for talking to us thank you. so we know some more about the different methods of covert testing than we did at
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the start of the show but there are questions remaining and that's when our science correspondent derrick williams is happy to jump in. is it possible to test positive for 19 and its antiquities at the same time. tricky question to answer it we need a quick refresher on the terminology antibodies our immune system proteins that can be detected by what are called serial logical tests generally from blood samples if you have antibodies that are specific to covert 19 that indicates that you were exposed to the corona virus at some point in the past whether you develop symptoms or not diagnostics like antigen and p.c.r. tests on the other hand are for detecting the virus or its genetic material so they're supposed to tell you whether you have an active infection this question
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therefore basically boils down to can i have an active infection yet at the same time be producing detectable amounts of antibodies against it yes you can but but finding both involves getting the timing right that's because there's some overlap between when an infection is in full swing and the ramp up of the body's immune response and in general experts say it takes a patient's body between one and 3 weeks to produce detectable amounts of the different antibodies that play a key role in fighting off covert 19 researchers in new york found that even patients producing antibodies in those measurable amounts however could continue to test positive for the virus for up to 4 weeks after their symptoms resolved what the team couldn't determine though was whether the. viral genetic material was actually coming from an active viable virus p.c.r.
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testing doesn't tell you that although that's really what you want to know it just tells you whether there are intact pieces of my role in a sample. do you have a question for derek mall just send an e-mail to feedback dot english dot com and type expert in the subject line or leave a comment on our you tube channel now before we let you go here's a story about adapting traditions to today's reality germany's seasonal christmas markets called off due to coronavirus restrictions drive through options have been popping up across the country and car car the the near the docks for a family theme park has been transformed into a winter wonderland complete with artificial snow mulled wine and music cars following a 2 and a half kilometer route past stands. just craps and all
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nigeria. i'm phil welcome to the program. european regulators have moved up a meeting where they're expected to approve a covered 19 vaccine their assessment of the bio tech pfizer vaccine is now set for the 21st of december the european medicines agency said it made the decision after receiving additional data from the vaccines manufacturers now this comes after germany's health minister joint others in plucking putting pressure on the agency to move faster immunizations with this vaccine have already begun in the u.k. and the united states and it's with. if it gets approved and let me repeat it is still being assessed and the assessment can always produce fresh information otherwise you would need to do it. so if it gets approved by the 21st of december
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then together with the producer we will try and allow for rapids delivery to the federal states and the federal states can then deliver it to their vaccination centers so i am expecting vaccinations to start 2 months to 4 days later at the latest. start. straight to d.w. political correspondent hans brandt welcome hans so we now know the european medicines agency will hold its meeting on the 21st of december rather than the 29th is this because of german pressure. i imagine it is yes the german health minister has been saying in the last couple of days repeatedly that he would wish for an approval of this vaccine somewhat more quickly so that the vaccinations could start this year already has been a lot of political pressure here in germany from various political parties as well
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and from organizations such as. those of the emergency hospitals themselves who have all been saying that the vaccine really is necessary it's really urgently needed in a whole lot of different situations at the same time one has to say that this is. the health minister has repeated again today that germany is not pushing for an emergency approval of this vaccine which has been the case in the united states and the united kingdom it once a regular approval of such a vaccine so that people who want to use it who want to be vaccinated can be certain that every step has been taken to ensure the safety of the vaccine also we have to say that this is a european decision all of europe will be rather all of the european union is waiting for a decision on this. was intriguing you know within the case that germany doesn't want to go he. wants to go along with the rest of europe but if he's taking an
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incredibly long time british regulators say they were able to do it quickly not because calls were cut but because they worked in parallel with the developers of the vaccine why has the a.m.a. been so slow. oh actually we have to say that all of these processes are so fast that they have no compare in history as the you know the approval the both the development of the vaccine and the approval of the vaccine has never been done even nearly as fast as it is being done now and the european agency is taking a lot more care about this than the brits have taken in great britain they went their own way every other european country could have done it as well but chose not to part of the reason is that. we were may remember that in the spring after locked on then a lot of european countries went and way closed borders impose their own restrictions and that caused chaos on the continent that kind of chaos one wants to avoid now so
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germany and all other your e.u. countries besides the united kingdom have decided to do this together and to wait together to develop a vaccine together to finance that together and to have a european solution for the whole problem. politics correspondent once brown thank you and let's get a view from brussels and speak to you to a powerless there's a german member of the european parliament and the green party she sits on the parliament's committee on environment public health and food safety welcome to you the european medicines agency had does appear to have responded to german pressure by bringing this meeting forward to the 21st of december your thoughts on the please. well actually i'm not sure whether it was german pressure which was the reason behind for what it off the meeting because actually what they put in their
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press release was that they had. some questions and they wanted more data and they received the data yesterday so what they did is ok now we have the data now we can scrutinize the data and have a decision early but unless you happen to say to you cannot say when you will have the meeting on the evaluations of course that might have played a role also because people are going to look at this and think well vaccinations have started in the u.k. there started in the united states of people are dying or while these people whites to go to their meetings. what should they be doing what should they are you happy with the way the big areas handle this. well actually i believe the crucial issue and actually nation is not whether you have a stamp or off on your city afic it on the 21st or the 29th or even the 4th of december the crucial issue is how fast can you rollout the vaccine to your
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population how fast little you get the population vaccinated at the end of the day and how well you create sufficient trust in the population to actually achieve herd immunity by taxation and therefore i think it was prudent by the e.m.e.a. to say we will have a public hearing on the 11th of december where are all questions can be addressed where independent scientists can come forward with their concerns and where the public can have their say and therefore we can create the trust which we need we are seeing now that the companies are saying well we do not know whether we can supply sufficient that's in goes to the net of the population very quickly so that might be another bottleneck which we don't see yet so i would not put so much pressure on the regulatory authorities who are really working day and night in
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mccook was in the committee last week assuring us that they are doing this that i would put pressure actually on our public health system to ensure that everyone who wants to be vaccinated can be vaccinated and that we have a. plan to ensure that the risk groups the elderly. the people with diseases are vaccinated as soon as possible could talking to thank you so much for doing so you're to palos from there your. thank you. well during the 1st wave of the pandemic germany was praised for keeping inflation numbers relatively low from the start of the crisis a southern german city of 2000000000 has stuck to a simple formula when it comes to protecting society members with astonishing success through has been to find out. just under 100 senior citizens live at this care home into being in southern germany and they're all highly vulnerable to
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the coronavirus to keep infection out visitors including reporters like me must follow strict rules on hygiene and in recent weeks visitors have also been able to take advantage of a free on site coronavirus test especially trained cara takes the swap in just a few seconds. at the moment they carry out 30 to 40 tests a day but that number is growing a few minutes later you get the result and can go ahead with your visit. the town council pays for the testing program and despite the overall increase no one was tested positive here for weeks that's a big relief for the managers and residents alike. it means we can say that after a negative test visiting can go ahead. it's crucial for the well being of the residents to keep up
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a social context we know that it is good psychological stress on many of them when visiting had to stop earlier in the year. and it's not just in care homes but also in the rest of the town that extra measures are being taken to protect the. gated shopping times help senior citizens to avoid contact with others subsidized taxis and free masks are also available for those in high risk groups that's a deliberate strategy the mayor of my came in for criticism at the start of the pandemic for speaking out in a way that many saw as a just the town has since spent how from 1000000 euros protecting its elderly people. as a mathematician i looked at the figures and even in april it was clear that people over 70 were most at risk of dying so we had to take action to protect them and that would also stop the intensive care unit from becoming overloaded. the strategy
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seems to be working so far and older people say they appreciate this preferential treatment. i think you might hear them with not of course everyone has to take responsibility for themselves but in general i think that the measures that have been taken absolutely right she hadn't fallen for good and. to my mind it's all being done very well i use the transport service when i need to . make more. targets is in my spirit and i'm wearing this mask that mr palmer sent me in the post and i keep it in the cars and that i don't forget it and it's a good president that the sec even to older people and the $800.00 loiter a few hours later a couple of scenes. citizens to get tested positive one of them in the care home we was that it earlier so going into the strict national lockdown is something both this it is residents and it's mayor except it's necessary because in our duty we aren't perfect into being and we didn't manage to improve our contact tracing
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either so if there's got to be a lock down it's got to be the same everywhere otherwise everyone would just come here to do their shopping it's got to be a lockdown that applies to everyone is to look down tyler. the town has also come up with its own christmas plans instead of having festive market stalls they're setting up a testing station where everyone can get a free test before they go and visit their family over the holidays. for take a look now at some of the other developments in this pandemic pharmaceuticals manufacturer i'm a nurse says hackers accessed documents related to its covered 19 vaccine counter that during a cyber attack on europe's medicines regulator israel is starting the 2nd phase of trials for a vaccine that if successful could be rolled out next summer and the u.s. department of agriculture has confirmed the country's 1st known case of the corona virus in a wild animal that's in a make. here are some of the other stories making news around the world police in
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germany say they've arrested another suspect in connection with last week's robbery of priceless jewelry from the famous green vault museum interest in last month investigators arrested 3 men 2 suspects remain on the run. armenia and azerbaijan have begun to exchange prisoners of war following a bloody conflict over the territory of the goanna carol back to for the 2 former soviet naked nations a force for 6 weeks before russia brokered a cease fire last month it's not clear how many prisoners they intend to exchange. an explosion in afghanistan has killed 3 people including me deputy governor of the capital kabul the interior minister says unknown assailants attached a bomb to ma ma. vehicle and no group has claimed responsibility. and russian president vladimir putin has congratulated joe biden following his official confirmation as president elect of the united states by the electoral
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college the kremlin statement mr putin said he was ready for interaction with mr biden mr putin was the last major foreign leaders to acknowledge biden's victory in last month's elections. in a new media investigation has found that a group of russian special agents a followed opposition leader alexei navalny for years before he was poisoned in the summer the reasons the report says the agents from russia security service the f.s.b. were part of an intelligence team specializing in toxins and nerve agents. an independent thorough investigation of a crime that the russian got refuses to consider investigative website belling cat reveals a story about a specially trained team of russian agents with the goal of poisoning dissident alex in a volley with a deadly nerve agent. it's novell now i found out who tried to kill me i know where they live and where they work i know their real names their
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fake names and i have photos of them that. belling cat worked with russian news organization the insider german newspaper der spiegel and u.s. broadcast to c.n.n. to map out evidence that novell me was being followed by the russian security service the f.s.b. well before the incident and even revealed previous attempts to poison him. at that this is a story about a secret group of killers from the f.s.b. which includes doctors and chemists it's about how they tried to kill me several times and once nearly killed my wife you won't hear about this on t.v. especially that the one giving orders to this group is russian president vladimir putin. that used publicly available flight logs and other information to back up their claims and we did this we found that there were 3 people who got the same areas that. they were really surprised that we looked more of these people and we noticed these.
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