when the minister who used to be well liked and respected by mr bowles and was in it well mr morell made his accuser. being investigated surulere did the supreme court we are waiting for this investigation to come through ok of course we have to wait for dad it is process to end i myself. will walk i'm side by side with president bosso not joining all this time and i can tell you that he did in not to interfere in defender of police when they were going to federal police so that he could help some of his sons that are being accused of some wrongdoings how do you know he didn't did he tell you that he didn't have i know that well well i've been we've missed the boat so not. to tell us and we've been working closely together and i can tell you he is not interfering

in the work of the federal police federal police is doing our job they are investigating all diskettes did our good sherry system is investigating the problems that one of his sons has so i see that this process is going their way all process go here in brazil. mr vice president how important is truth in your administration let's take the issue of deforestation and the fires this year in the amazon august 10th you said government agents were executing urgent measures to contain deforestation and fires a day later president both sonera said the exact opposite you won't find any spot of far he said nor a quarter of a head deforested the report that the amazon is burning is a lie in fact it was his statement that was the lie wasn't it because the amazon was clearly burning at that point well i don't deny what happened and we've been

working very hard to stop any illegal deforestation and illegal fires that happen in the amazon what has been clear is deforestation has been increasing since to tell us and 12 accelerate the last year since that 2nd half of this month of june last june deforestation has been decreasing so the work is beginning to pay now and of course we still have the problem of the fires we are in the dry season the dry season year to year is beginning to be very bigger and bigger and of course we have to have more resources we have to put more a source in the fight to hand against a leg ali piece that happens in the amazon area yeah but when mr bronson our august 11th said there is no fire the report that the amazon is burning is a lie that itself was a lie wasn't true was it simply wasn't true so by lying about these things

what happened. you know what happens in the amazon for the question of fires it's very clear we lot of people that we have some more than 500000 farmers in the amazon area and some 5 percent of dinner about some 25000 farmers they work their fields with fire and that's why our that's a very. system to work the fields so we have to make them we stop this so debt. don't grow year to year the fact is these are the worst fires in a decade on day in september you know satellites recorded more than 32000 hotspots in the rain forest 61 percent rise over the same month last year and in both september and the oldest when you would tell the president was telling us there were no 5 the blaze matched or supposed last year is single months high so the

science directive for your amazon environmental research institute said we have had 2 months with a lot of fun it's already worse than last year satellites can see it why do you deny it's worse than last year now we don't deny we don't deny any sync ok september of 20 has been a war since september last year but like i told you before some 70 percent of these fires are raging in the a.d.'s that have been over reddit deforested many many many years ago that are occupied by farmers only one surge of them are happening that they wouldn't do should not to happen and we a fight and then since the beginning of their day a green brazil to a permission that we lounge and since the month of may where we stop at some $6000.00 points of fire so we have been doing our jobs. you've been doing your jobs

but. not very effectively it seems according to reports on the ground if the fires are that bad and there are still $32000.00 the hot spots in the rain forest the 61 percent rise over the same month last year that's not very effective is it well like i told you this season is very dry so it's a moment that fire happens and of course you say 32000 hotspots 32000 hotspots in an age of 5 median square kilometers i think you can agree with me that's not so huge are people watch telly around the wood ok because the amazon is very huge so what's been passing through all around there were that the whole amazon is in fire and that's not happened there fires happen like i told you in ages that have been already before asked that since many many years ago mr vice president the accusation from human rights groups is the george ministration has deliberately

undermined the efforts by your own federal agents to stop deforestation human rights watch says that while federal authorities impose thousands of fines for illegal deforestation a presidential decree has allowed most of them to go unpaid what's the point of doing that now we've done comply we've seen the galaxies in the amazon by for instance our. environmental legislation say that any property in the amazon can explore 20 percent of it sadia they order 80 percent has to be preserved when you lent wheat will be as you weigh it with fines you let people get away without paying fines why almost everyone gets away with not paying well lines well. so if people don't pay fines they gave the don't pay they fight defiance their land that they have is going to be arrested but so far as today we have a problem of regulation of the land tenure we need to regulate these this is

a big problem that we still have in brazil ok. we are dealing with these in the national council that i'm the head of the council and that's one of my main objectives i've been working together we sell our culture minister so death we can go ahead with this because it's very important that we solve this problem because only repression against people who are making seems wrong. to not and they let god it is we need to advance with their land can you regulation but why should these criminal groups involved in deforestation stop when the when your penalties are taken away and they're not even obliged to pay fines means everyone gets away with it with no penalties which is exactly what you wanted a mr paulson are made no secret of his intentions he openly attacked his own environmental agencies which he called industries of fines and promise to end their

festival of sanctions so he made it quite clear that he wanted to take away the sanctions take away the punishment and let all the illegal logging go ahead he was quite clear about that. as to both or not he spoke about death when who as a candidate and a candidate you know it speaks about a lot of scenes oh i was there it wasn't true it wasn't true those. all the reports on the ground say that's exactly what he's done we put in some pretty $100000000.00 in fines that's a lot of money ok so our environmental agents they have the freedom to do their job they are putting fines on everybody that are doing illegalities well that's not the reports coming from the ground mr vice president final word on the pandemic when it comes to the corona virus you have around 4700000 confirmed cases the 3rd highest in the world asked in the u.s.

and india more cases than all of europe not a great record is it well like i told you before brazil has a lot of pain equalities ok we are not an equal country we have problems and assertion and economic and then job you know of course we have our geography here in brazil so we try to fight their best way possible we regret most 150000 brazilians that we lost their lives but we have cured more than 4000000 people here in brazil so why think that despite this number of cases and number of deaths we dealt a very good wish to spend democrats how much how much use was it for the president to call it just a measly code and say to people i think almost all of you will catch it one day what are you afraid of about being afraid of dying or having how long term health problems or blood clots not much he has not much sympathy for his people have seen

. of course we prepare i wouldn't have been always concerned about the people the president since the beginning of the pandemic said it very clear we have to take care of their health and we have to take care of the economy because we know that a lot of people year brazil they well they have very difficult to wear and their money because we are in that we live in a period of crisis that we don't have jobs for everybody people leave in one formal way and from night to day just people lost any chance to have some kind of revenue so the president who knows the common people knew that about all right vice president how will tomorrow thank you very much for being on conflict thank you. give of. of of.

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