make up your own. job you made for mines. this is deja vu news live from berlin the european union rolls out its mass vaccination program against covert 19 is a shot of hope as a huge coordinated effort gets underway to start immunize in society's most vulnerable members also on the program. plastic sheeting and blankets are their

only protection against the elements hundreds of migrants have spent a 4th night in freezing conditions in north western boss aid groups say people could die if they don't get proper shelter soon. i'm exposed or welcome to the program it's being called an historic day in the fight against the coronavirus code 19 vaccinations have begun in countries across the european union the vaccine is seen as the 1st significant step forward in a crisis that has elevated health workers and scientists to the rank of heroes now it's the chart of a new type of hero to roll up their sleeves with europe's most elderly lining up for the vaccine. celebration as spain vaccinates its 1st person against the coronavirus is

a moment of hope in one of the countries hardest hit by the pandemic. in italy medical staff were the 1st to give a job their country to ravaged by the 1st wave of the virus. off the car the one man having been on the frontline since the beginning of the pandemic i have felt with my hands and seen with my eyes how difficult it is to fight this fire. it has been painful to witness the defeats this virus has caused moderate today as an important and decisive day that this is the war. can be czech republic prime minister and poppish led the way and he was followed by a world war 2 veteran who took it all in her stride. it pricked a little that was all. of her. while in sweden the 1st was a 91 year old retirement home resident. supply of

a vaccine is limited but demand is huge with most e.u. countries receiving an initial batch of no more than 10000 doses each member state is prioritizing who gets. the supplies are expected in the new year but officials warn us a long way to go before everyone can be vaccinated. the role that represents a huge coordinated effort by the 27 member european union earlier we spoke to. in brussels about this historic day in the fight against the pandemic. you commission president or the law fund and lie and this quiet touching moment for you ups you need to and this was exactly what the european union the most aiming for in this face of the fight against the coronavirus in the member states could have moved forward individually but instead they decided that it is the european

commission talking to pharmaceutical companies that procuring. scenes and coordinating the roll out of that since now across the continent across the block and it was important to make sure that every member state is getting thick since at the same time and that's been poor member states are not being left behind left alone with that. and here in germany the immunisation campaign is already underway with vaccine doses still in limited supply the government has prioritized who will go 1st those in the highest priority group include people over 80 as well as residents and staff of care homes for line medical personnel in intensive care units and emergency services and others in contact with high risk patients also get priority after that the vaccination will be given to people over 70 doctors and medical staff in regular contact with patients as well as people with mental

disabilities everyone else will have to wait it's not yet clear how the rest of the population will be prioritized the question remains just how long it will take for enough people to be vaccinated for life to return to some kind of normal. germany was one of a number of countries to start a day early with the program with a 101 year old woman at a care home the 1st to get the shots along with other residents and some staff when it quite solid was born the world was in the grip of spot and surely today 101 years old she made history as the 1st german to be vaccinated. well i feel fine a mobile team came to this residential project to senior citizens in how bush that unvaccinated 40 residence and taking care stuff the head of the local vaccination center didn't want to waste any time waiting. every day counts once the vaccine has

been defrosted it has a limited storage life and the logistics are flexible enough that we can bring things forward by a day and go out to the cat homes earlier. most parts of germany are starting vaccinating on sunday regional politicians stressed the urgency isn't enough hours in the we're seeing rising infections and alarmingly high numbers of fatalities. and yet the vaccine is giving us this glimpse of hope. but if we can hold out a little longer. we have the chance that more and more people will be vaccinated and. the biotech pfizer vaccine is being delivered across germany and the country's health minister held out the hope of more to come. vita right now if the other pack scenes that look promising are approved by the middle of the year will be able to roll out widespread vaccinations and offer one to anyone who wants it so much. by the end of 2021 point 3000000 doses of vaccine will have been

distributed in january another 3000000 like here in berlin vaccination centers are ready and waiting and they are equipped to administer many 1000000 monteux says to members of the public. because they need to vaccinate is so high in the interest is that i'd rather have as many doses as possible as quickly as possible so that we can get. the health minister rejects charges that too little vaccine was ordered at the european level and he was clear about the overall in. the corner. the corona vaccine season it's free of charge involuntary but our intent is clear we want to vaccinate so many people that the virus no longer stands a chance neither in germany or in europe. first in line is anyone aged 80 or older like here in a. mobile team to be visiting with

a vaccine any day soon and said a little more light on this historic day we're joined by andrew allman from votes for he's a member of the bundestag for the business friendly f.t.p. party and a member of the german health alliance advisory board mr owen welcome to the program the european commission president says this is a touching moment of unity for europe is it. i would say so i think it's a very touchy moment since for the 1st time in human history we are combat being a pandemic and should condemn it with a newly evaluated and approved vaccine and i think that is a major step in human kind of germany where we're both having and talking in lock down of one kind or another didn't deal with the 2nd wave of the pandemic as well as the 1st why is that. why i think there was a certain kind of ignorance on one side and some kind of hopeful is this nightmare would pass by without any consequences i think it was

a big blind spot by the german government and we see it right now with the very high infection rates and especially the vulnerable groups are specially hit hard the on the i.c.u. being on the respirator or even dying because they were not well enough protected i think that has to be a lot of work up to be done afterwards why that happened because it was always clear that we're going to have a 2nd wave we want it to prevent a 2nd lockdown and it was very important for us to prevent any kind of infectious personally or see homes for the elderly and i think there was a lot of things that were missed right at this year a member of parliament telling us or not us form of structural political weakness in germany pandemics chancellor merkel had a very hard time getting regional leaders to agree to to a lockdown has not shown up weaknesses in the federal system do you think that needs fixing perhaps. i think west is going to make is over we have to discuss the

federal system in germany in regards to endemic preparedness it is very clear that we were not prepared for the president make in march of this year and we were not prepared for the 2nd wave that all very well because health care and health systems are in the responsibility of the different states in germany and of course there were certain kinds of minister presidents that were very much interested to see how strong they are but the actually there was created more weak this because the unity of our country or even within europe wasn't guaranteed and it caused a lot of let's say a missile prevention measures that were done in our country thank you for that insight adelman member of the bundestag and the german health alliance thank you for having me. and it's time now to take a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world. voting is underway in a potentially historic election in need share the vote could produce the west

african countries 1st peaceful transfer transfer of power between between democratically elected presidents that's despite a continuing insurgency by jihad as militants and extreme poverty according to the u.n. is the world's poorest country. 10 people are dead in iran after avalanches hit a mountain range north of the capital tehran rescue teams are searching for a number of people still believed to be missing balance is struck for different areas in the al bore's mountain range which is popular for hiking and climbing. hundreds of migrants stranded in northwestern bosnia has spent a 4th night in freezing temperatures and squalid conditions after the camp that housed them burned down the u.n. and other international aid groups are urgently appealing to the authorities in bosnia-herzegovina to provide alternative shelter for the migrants saying people could die if they don't act soon.

they were already living in misery then things got worse. freezing temperatures no heat in a big tent and just plastic sheeting for a roof one that threatens to cave in from snow piling up on top some people here say they aren't even being regularly fed. who it is the winter cold can't sleep in here. and if they throw them. no food without food we're. about 1200 refugees were relocated because their former camp down a few days ago the fire allegedly set by frustrated occupants located near boston is border with croatia the u.n. camp at least but was scheduled to be closed because bosnian authorities allegedly ignored its appeals to help restore basic services the cold weather for showers and

toilets weeks ago. bosnia has become a bottleneck for thousands of migrants hoping to reach western europe those here try to get into the nearest e.u. country croatia though croatian authorities have been loath to allow them entry and usually push back. police to give them everything of our life. for now there's still no solution in sight for these migrants who are in dire need of help . archeologists in the italian city of pompei have excavated a strikingly well preserved ancient roman fast food restaurants they even found leftovers from what was on the menu nearly 2000 years ago pompei was buried by lava

and ash when mt vesuvius erupted in 7980 it's one of italy's most popular tourist attractions. the deadly volcanic eruption completely destroyed the bustling port of pompei among the thousands of victims customers of this fast food restaurant which sold takeaway chicken lamb and goat the pots on the counter contain duck burns and traces of snails a noted delicacy outfront a sign warning diners to be aware of the dog and some graffiti making fun of the owner. it's the 1st time we've managed to excavate a complete term of polio snack bar like this new technology allows us to pinpoint what was in these containers on the internet because as you frieda the excavation gives the scientists some important clues about roman eating habits and the unfortunate owner was obviously inside the shop when the volcano erupted behind the

counter a human skeleton for the moment the site is still closed to visitors because of coronavirus restrictions. as you are of course watching news live from berlin don't forget you can always stay up to date on our web site b w dot com or on twitter and instagram attitude of you news i'm nick spicer from in the entire news stream here in berlin thanks for lunch. in the height of climate change. africa's most urgent. what's in store for. monday used to be for the future in the. comp for the megacity

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numbers of refugees from africa are using gram canady on an island that belongs to spain to reach europe officials are overwhelmed from here journalists can go no. further some 2000 african migrants are being housed in this can been the part of. the 5 times as many as was expected to aid groups have spoken of squalid conditions but it's impossible for the w. news to find out jay my son tom now works for the island's refugee council his colleagues have been inside the camp. but another minute everyone sleeps on the floor some intensely some alledge in the open mostly those who have been criticizing this from day one but we didn't think it would get this bad most of the 2300 people in the camp and then numbers that are growing every day in the way at.

the crossing is dangerous but the coronavirus pandemic has cut off about migration routes. the government has started to housing new arrivals in hotels near the camp human rights activists say they are not getting a fair shot at the asylum system. these migrants from san diego fear that they will soon be deported. so don't believe the closure that far but. no doubt by journalists are not welcome here eva g w new was just told to leave in mid conversation may know it's angry at the spanish government but also feels abandoned by the european union. it donna has got to get it i'm disappointed with spain and with europe this is shame for a lot of politicians and representatives have come here recently but we have no clue

what the government's strategy is to deal with the migration crisis on the canary islands but there will be money buying up. spain's government refuses to relocate the migrants to the mainland critics say this has turned the island into a prison. the spanish government has now started to procure further accommodation for the migrants many fear that this housing will fill up before long. in kandahar the residents aren't suffering from droughts but rather from too much water the rising levels of make are forcing people to relocate. like bulgaria so swollen from rising water levels of the shoreline changes every

day. we see this early on in our trip when the access road unexpectedly becomes part of the leak. we find. who's just arrived to open her bond restaurant and he's been a dramatic change. there's water this water just came in with an one day i said came slowly and slowly until it got to this level so without any notice you have to demolish within just a few seconds china gets has already been forced to move her business once it's inevitable that she will have to move again and she's not the only one the extent of the flooding can be seen clearly from neighboring lake baringo the freshwater lake has expanded by 60 percent in the last 7 years this year has been by far the worst. folks our tour guide grew up on the shores of the sleek work has been scarce as most of the hotels are now underwater just he leads us to one of

many flooded schools in the area so even a year you've seen all these decaying buildings. but our last story is the most significant for folks i grew up here my foster until years of life i spent a year this was my playground it's quite sad to see it drop going through and i don't know what i'm what i'm looking for scientists are warning that freshwater lake baringo and salt water liquid gorier could merge the cross contamination would destroy the balance in the ecosystem. to understand what is happening to the lakes we head to the forest home to the rivers that feed the lakes in the rift valley mo forest is recovering from years of deforestation. david weston has been a conservationist for more than 50 years he says the destruction of the catchment areas is just one in a series of linked problems the past where people are now settling down and staying

in one place so what that means is every single day you have heavy grazing and that is really prominent around the baringo basin up in the hills on the side so all of that erosion has been washed off routinely. back in bulgaria the storm breaks it's short for the ocean. is visibly worried and soon how worst fears are realized the water level has gone up again this could be her last day on this land. and many countries are relying on drastic measures and lockdowns to fight the corona pandemic but it's costing many people in spain there in comments the number of people there were lying on aid is on the rise. seemingly endless queues for food in madrid's working class district oh my gosh some people have been regulus at this food bank at the church for years but others are new. the been damaged has brought

them here. that people here have been waiting to get minimum state subsidies for ages. and that people who apply for furlough in march and still haven't been paid. hit by one of europe's worst corona virus outbreak suspends economy has been left shattered people know incomes migrants and casual workers have suffered the most. worked as i had reza for the past 17 years that was until the pandemic as she her husband and their 5 children have hit rock bottom above almost as now not made of money before but we always had food never in our lives did we imagine we'd end up like this. movie i was entitle to clive of payments that she has had to waste to long for the money to come through. that i think about the families who don't have food please don't forget us the system is at

a standstill and house situation is very bad i'm one month one month the government says it will extend the furlough scheme it has rolled out a basic income program but the process of getting benefits is highly bureaucratic and lengthy. their warehouse on the outskirts of madrid supplies 70000 killers of food every day that's mainly paid for by government and e.u. aid these schemes have been extended and a recent campaign for donations should ensure that the warehouse doesn't run out of store back at the church father gone santa needs more volunteers to pull the many trolleys and reduce waiting times they go from empty to full within seconds before they get to the waiting hungry. they have i confess that on some days during the economic i thought i could not make it home because though i was working at a speed of a person who had aged 40 years before. but that doesn't stop him. one

fool to. only contains food supplies for a month including treats that families cannot afford. i've got it all on when the children see the cocoa are trapped and it's a very happy. about it because i can only buy the essentials not i must go over to . the pandemic has hit spain's already battered economy hard it's unlikely it will recover quickly enough so people may have to rely on food handouts for some time to come. them slowly build the dying wishes of the terminally ill. he and his team take them to places they want to see one last time. we accompany him on one of his make a wish trips. with frank fans low on his assistants are ready whenever a terminally ill person in northern germany would like to go for write letters or

free of charge the stuff volunteers he has a zone specially fitted and says their mission is to fill a dying person's last wish so they're not even has been a hospice for several weeks the 55 year old has terminal cancer. the doctors say her choose an operable because it's too close to the spine. today she'd like to return together with her son and his fiance to the town where she grew up. it even passed the happiest time in your life someplace then it's just nice to be back there again and to be quiet to just breathe to feel. we'll manage just fine won't we. moments hometown is just half an hour away she was given morphine for the pain a man who trains paramedics for a living vents low tries to fulfill his passengers every wish he and his colleagues

had out up to 2 times a week he's even driven all the way to the north cape. sylvia's chosen the church as their 1st stop. the attendants will throw the stretcher kerr fully over the cobbles. every bump is painful for the patient. sylvia with the church here when she was a little girl today the memories so how comforting. how fitting. for many relatives a last journey like this is tougher to bear than it is for the dying person themselves. that 1st sylvia newman son says he feared the emotional stress of the trip. but now he's glad he came along the trip continues on a ferry across the visa river. for sylvia but another childhood memory.

she wants to see its mighty waters one more time. from france lower reserved a special place for her with a view look there's a white house in the background on the short walls of the phaser follows in the middle of the waterway the ferries captain circles the boat a few times especially for some of you know him and she wants to take another look at her grandparents owned neighborhood watch her thoughts on the coming days pretty relaxed i think you know why i was back here again and that's really beautiful for turkey lasts for hours then it's time to go back to the hospice frank friends though hasn't counted how many last wishes he's fulfilled he says as passengers shouldn't be reduced to statistics. then it's time to say farewell to the passenger . and like every time it's goodbye for good.

after. every 3 hours a woman is murdered in south africa and living in fear. how can we find ways of curbing gender based violence. i think we as men should unite. to stop woman and child abuse. 77 percent. next d.w. . this sense of freedom. there was a success story behind a car thief. and it would have to do with the social emancipation of the mile an. hour of an all time. and enjoying strength in.

a small scale farmers to withstand the most difficult circumstances. w. literature invites us to see people in particular that i like to see is to find. my. books on you tube. hello and a warm welcome to the 77 percent of the show for africa's you i promise you of this will be quite an unusual episode my name is liz show thanks for joining us today. we normally have a huge variety of stories and topics from across the continent but today we want to

only focus on one thing violence against women and girls and just a quick trigger warning if you have experienced this type of violence then some parts of this show might be upsetting. now since this is such a crucial issue we decided to give survivors of violence a lot of space. thousands of women in south africa are raped or murdered every year and i was treated by a tweet here from survivors of domestic abuse and rape about their experiences and what's need to change. before we get to our street debate we will hear the story of a cannon and a group of south african teenagers in the city of port elizabeth they are using social media to express their outrage against gender based violence and to mobilize their peers to speak out. elizabeth at a cemetery in. d.c.

we cannae this is a grave affair friend 7 years ago cindy gum under was brutally raped at med it in the dunes of the nearby beach. is a constant companion for bill economy and many other young women in south africa. and living in fear. and safe we are not safe anywhere even in our own homes at times for most of them. so it's. for them and for everyone for the children. for the child activists for prevention campaign violence initiative that is run by teenagers from walmart. dot com pain is supported by the. mentors a group of 16 learners who help suffer from abuse. they want to produce short video

messages for social media just plain how to report sexual abuse. maybe giving young people of ice. and encouraging them on ways they can use to speak out and also raise awareness around the issue of child abuse and these finds the videos are popular teenagers across south africa watch them and many comments describe india own experiences of sexual violence or asking for help so that is why i say stand up take an action and speak for yourself. today is. to record his message. but we should speak up and we should all understand what abuse is and i think that we mustn't take it lightly thank you jack hopes that he can mobilize men and boys around the issue of sexual violence

because it matters not only to women but to all i think we as men should unite. to stop woman and child abuse was i think this is something that might destroy our future as a nation. too often sexual abuse. victims to turf fight to name ghetto mentors the group's message is clear we have the right to be hit. a very powerful message indeed and sadly there are many more cases than you might think would check some statistics on gender based violence and i found them really shocking let's take a look at. violence against women and girls it's one of the most common human rights violations in the world. economic or national boundaries. according to the u.n. every 3rd woman experiences physical or sexual violence in her lifetime. many cases

the perpetrator is her partner a family member of someone who knows. out of 10 women who've experienced gender based violence only for will think help and only one reported to the police. often the judicial system is in effect and victims are. right now the situation is particularly tense because of the call that 19th endemic. to help plans have increased 5 fold in some countries as many women suffer abuse from their part. i can't imagine what it must be like for a woman or a girl to be raped the pain the feeling of helplessness and then silence so what drives men to hurt and abuse women in the 1st place and what can be done to stop it. my colleague christine manuel was in south africa to seek answers to those

very questions here is our latest street debate. the 77 percent is in johannesburg now around the world women are fighting for equality but in this country women are also having to fight for their safety that is because south africa's one of the most unsafe places in the world to be a woman now the statistics show a woman is murdered here every 3 hours this country has one of the highest rates if not the highest rate of violent against women on today's street debate we're asking the question why why are women being victimized in this way i'm joined by my panel today that we destroyed of the conversation with jackie jackie tell us what your experience was. christine my experience was a gang rape when i was 18 this is 2000 is 7. with a group of friends and little did we know that we were going to be coerced into

a room upstairs inside the club and a bunch of men came in and i was gang raped there that's my 1st encounter with sexual violence right we'll come back to jackie because i do want to establish you in the conversation as well tracy what has been your experience christine i grew up in a home of domestic violence and as a child i knew that i never wanted to live a life like my mother i wanted my life to be completely different and it wasn't and i found myself in an abusive relationship and being beaten up at some point in my life did you know many other women in the position that you were in. a certain off when i was growing up i wasn't aware of anybody else having the same experience as i was having obviously now i hardly know a woman who hasn't had some form of trauma or abuse in her life right because he said i want to bring you into the can. station right now because we've invited you on here you know you have told us that you were a form

a picture of violence against women tell us what exactly that means well an age of 16. you went to see my girlfriend worse you will stay but the idea was quite simply to take them home so that we could have sex with them they were our girlfriends but we never discussed whether they had permission from their parents whether they were willing to do that at that particular point and then we took them literally against their will we were no no no if i was but. nice and sticks because we're in the villages. so but it comes. back to the time when i was 10 right when my brother molested me so i grew up with this idea that sex is something to be taken and not negotiated right ok we'll come

back and pick up on that idea but i do want to come back to you jackie because we're angry at one understand how how you felt how you dealt with with what you experienced at that point i felt like did i really do something wrong by deciding to go out with friends was a dream to be such a great violation to be out in public as a female and i just felt so betrayed by the friends and also the paper treatise and i felt like are we ever going to be safe in any social space right and i think i still struggle with that even today because the rape happened at that time and then later on in life when i was at a job draped at a photo shoot and i was traumatized for life then going into adulthood where you start dating men who are not. socially. they have no social compassion they don't care about your body they don't care to ask you if you want to have sex or not they feel entitled well especially if they

hear that you've got a history of sexual violence they feel like oh well you've done this before it's not foreign so why should i be asking permission when everybody else has been taking so throughout the years i think 13 years of my life i have struggled with just understanding what is consent how do i give it how or when do i take it back as well and then you're in a relationship where consent now becomes a huge issue did i give you permission to sleep with me when i was in my period how would i say no. it's things that bad that i still struggle with it in comes to the issue of sexual violence right tracy. help me understand if if you at some point thought about. the person that you were in a relationship with why they felt that it was ok to do that. well at the end of a the man who beat me up had a history or has a history of violence and i didn't know that at the time because a perpetrator doesn't come out and beats you up on the very 1st time you go out on

a date there's a whole grooming process that's involved so we talk about the cycle of abuse there's definitely that that sort of buy in and by the time that you office beaten up you already invested in this relationship so i didn't know that he was an abusive man so and that is without a victim blaming because i take the responsibility for that for being beaten up it was entirely the perpetrators decision right yes talk about victim blaming what was your experience with having to open up i mean your story was made public it made headlines in this country because of who you were at perhaps you will introduce that to some of our viewers but just tell us about how society reacts when you walked out in public and people knew your story what kind of things people say to you. because i was a public figure and on radio and television at the time that i was beaten up it became public almost overnight i didn't realize that that was going to happen because i went to the police station i lay charges and i took the process to court because that's what i think you should do as far as victim shaming goes no one in

a city anything to my face but i'm very aware that victims even to this day of blame and for what happens to them and i find that shameful because it's not the victim's fault did you ever find yourself in a situation where you felt you had being a victim blame jackie i think now with an air of social media i get it more often where if i were to post something that speaks about rape somebody would say but you never took your rapist to court but you still talking about it so what is what's the intention here. can you even show as evidence of that adelaide's rape is there . can we see it. he'll say these they do say it so it becomes so bad because of social media and you can read all these ignore it because it's just in your face so you see i do want to come back to you because you you talked about. the young women that you had the encounter with and you said you didn't necessarily go to prison or anything of the sort but i just wondered today with

where society is right do you feel men just have the upper hand when it comes to violence against women that men can do this and get away with it imitating what you see around ok so my father would bring his girlfriend home when my mother was there a parent allegedly married my father was violent would be to have everybody my father very everybody so as a youngster i was like ok this is how life is this what if you're a man and yet when you try and being in charge you induce compliance ok you know and you tell you're maids whether you did. like you so you get me here don when you tell us yes i'm just trying to understand for instance the men who would have violently gang rape jackie right just trying to get into their heads can you can you step in for us and help us understand why why men would do that white white men

would think that is ok to do to a woman well i'm not surprised saying where i grew up we had a game called stimulus stimulus as in the train it was called a stimulus as in a train because men young men will queue up outside the house to rape a woman it was never called gang rape has never called anything it has called the male. i never participated i never did ok but just. anything else i want to get back to jackie because you seem to have resonated when he talked about stimulate the train here yet because i when i reflected on it later on just to understand in my head how was i. actively involved in this you know for lack of a better word i realize that for them it was a game it who has the longer stamina who had the raunchiest things to say to

a young child who was more into taming because they wanted to show off a month each other. who had the loudest voice who made me cry more. who made me scream more so it was like i can do better you didn't do enough and then the next one will come and then this one would like or you got tired after greatest a minute and they don't care if you live they don't care if you run out of breath they don't care if there's blood everywhere as a matter of fact it's like we want to see more we want to see more of your tears more of you screaming more of your blood you going in and of consciousness that's what we want to see and every time something like that happens when i lost breath or i was unconscious you could hear them laughing like oh you really did a number on her there is really good and then someone would say oh no no i'm back it's my turn now and then they would fight to come back and you sitting there in a state of my dying or my life and i actually wish that i was really dying in this

moment so what he's saying is completely right that's what they did. it in i'll come over to you now i mean you've you've been listening to to to everybody speaking your psychologist help us understand when i listen to jackie when i listen to tracy and when i listen to becky what i what i hear is that society creates a noise in which this stuff becomes acceptable and in a lot of situations becomes not just acceptable but encouraged. and i mean i want to i want to be clear that this is not just. that this is this is not a mental health issue right it's important to recognize that this is not being mentally ill people as we understand them who are doing it it's not you all psychopaths are you and social people this is this is everyday people but the culture that surrounds us the culture that surrounds you mean you not just in south africa but

around the world is one which is the sort of behavior is ok yes and big sees i'm going to come back to you because you at some point reflects it on your actions and you went through this process of performing just to tell us how that came about. it almost took a lifetime. but when i was much younger i always wondered too not to be like my father. but when i became an adult at some stage i realize i don't and in 97 i was like i don't like the person i am because i did exactly what every other thing that my father had done and was doing and this is doing to this day. so i went for counseling it took me 2 years i keep telling people that i was being taught how to be a human being right and that they don't believe me because what i wanted to achieve as a young man was a symbol new start a new family you know with

a little bit of kids here and there and and a happy home which was never ever going to be possible when i was still carrying the baggage from from my childhood how do women take back the power check how do we eat because. we're hearing it's a man's will right they play these games with the bodies of women how do women take back the power i think our governments need to review start gearing up for women who want to come out here because we need safe havens we need places of comfort and legal assistance as well if you want to report a case that should be easy for us to do as opposed to us going to the police station and also feeding violated just being by the police station a police what front line as the people who work at the produce stations should be more educated in how to deal with these issues and how to treat women in those

spaces because women come come back from police stations feeding like victims again or even worse getting raped at the police station while you're there to report a crime so it is really sort of a community ok to get a woman out of a violent. relationship where they'd be domestically not work but speaking is always the best solution we're still talking about making south africa a better place for women. can you maybe talk to us about what could be done in the kinds of places in the villages like you grew up in how we we fix the culture so that men stop playing that game so to say what so certainly it's a human. if they knew where of understanding what it means to be a man because the definition that we grew up with. not only does it not work for our constitution if it or it does not work for our partners women and

not our position but our partners we humanity we have gone off. so we need to to start almost a new culture that regards women as nothing other than human beings right it in i do just want to come back to you here. so i mean men have to sort of break out of that culture right from your psychological perspective from a young person who grew up with big ceases experience how do you break that cycle so that one of the most important things in this is when we talk about toxic masculinity this is i think what lies at the core of right is that we as men are taught that we're not allowed to show vulnerability would not allow to show emotion without a lot to show weakness and so when we feel any one of those things we express is anger as violent as aggression as hostility right and so what becomes

really important is normalizing the fact that always mean. males. or allowed to be human too so we're coming to the end of the debate just what is your message to a young woman today. whose experience some of what you've experienced how do we take back the power i think we as women are doing whatever we can to keep ourselves safe you know we don't walk on the streets after dark and we lock our doors we do everything to keep ourselves safe and i'm often asked that question and what should women do to off themselves when we doing everything we can and if you don't mind if i'd rather actually answer that question with saying you know we're in the main we're where all the mean that's what we really need so use going to stop bad male behavior because we were capturing lock down in south africa to the news of a woman and other woman being murdered and been left hanging from a tree not while he was great outrage from men because men say to me all the time but i'm not a power not an abuser i'm

a good man who where are the good men we need those men to talk about because we as women are doing what we can say in power russell's ok said mrs to man the jackie what is your as we close this debate. i think in the same ways the way we host conferences and we have conversations and we we will research and we read up on abuse men should do the same i've never seen a man who says i have i have done this except to a bigot here today who openly said ok this is my responsibility this is what i've done to rehabilitate myself but why aren't other men say ok i also come forth i take full responsibility for what i've done over the years this is the way i'm going forward and this is how educate the next boy child. yes it is. so i think i think what you're seeing is is is of utmost importance right things like sexual harassment you know such things like catcalling in the street all of these things contributed to the culture and in that the kind of stuff that the big

needs to be rooted out as well that you know the so-called locker room talk is no longer acceptable yeah yeah it never should have been never should have tracy so i think it is right we need to we need to talk about it now jackie and i 1st written books about our experience as has because he said and i think that for us was a very powerful state in our healing process is to take control of our own stories and when we write our stories we don't do it to share our shame we write our stories to give permission to other people to tell the story so i think that that's a very important part of the healing process and i think that answers your question about how do we empower ourselves as victims and i think we need to talk about it we need to break the silence take away the shame and that is the very 1st step in the healing process. and that does it for our street debate here in johannesburg and of course this conversation doesn't entail we're interested to hear what you think what your experiences have been in the country that you find yourself in of

course the conversation continues on social media but i. thank a huge thank you to everyone who took part in that debate and was so brave to share their story we really appreciate it on our facebook page we asked you guys what needs to be done to protect women better let me read you a few comments that we received novel or is a woman from ghana and she says we need gender based violence education in our schools lyrical bolt she saw him is from nigeria also believes in education but says it falls back on the family unit parents should be encouraged to discuss matters of affection with their children thank you so much for those comments with that we've come to the end up today's show but that doesn't mean the conversation stops here. feel free to get in touch on social media or drop us an email now we've

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