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this is deja vu news live from berlin congress confirms joe biden as the next u.s. president should resolve. objections from republicans failed to detail the democrats' victory over president donald trump the senate and house of reject their beds to throw out some electoral votes for biden. i. think that isolation came just hours after an angry pro trump mob that stormed the capitol sourcing lawmakers into hiding outside police fired tear gas to disperse
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the rioters the president elect condemned the violence as an assault on the nation's democracy trust me the safety of duly elected officials fish the protests ensure the wreck. and world leaders react with shock at the chaos in washington germany's angela merkel slams president trump for stoking the violence by failing to admit defeat. i'm sumi so much gun it's good to have you with us the u.s. congress has certified joe biden as the winner of november's presidential election after a day of chaos and violence in washington the session was forced into emergency recess when a violent mob of president trump supporters forced their way into the capitol building to try and stop lawmakers from certifying the vote. congress reconvenes
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later for proceedings that went late into the night and saw several republican lawmakers abandoning their planned objections to the election result. well the unprecedented scenes unfolded after trump had urged his supporters to rally at the capitol as lawmakers debated the results after biden's victory was certified trump released this statement here he said even though i totally disagree with the outcome of the election the facts bear me out nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on january 20th he went on to say i have always said we would continue our fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted while this represents the end of the greatest 1st term in presidential history it's only the beginning of our fight to make america great again. let's cross over now to washington our correspondent oliver salat is standing by for us there hi oliver we know now that certification of the election results is complete and we have seen
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that statement from president trump is this now over. well certainly not so mean you just read it all yourself donald trump is sending out mixed messages here as he has always been doing that has been his style ever since on the one hand size he commits to a peaceful transfer of power on the other hand he says is not the end this is just the beginning also let's be very clear he did not a distance himself from the protests that cost 4 lives at this point he said we lost you our special people so all of that has happened before of course in his rhetoric and it just simply shows that donald trump will not let go the next 2 weeks now will be crucial because after that is the inauguration off joe biden as the next president of the united states and even after that trump ism is very unlikely to disappear there's a big danger now that there will be some right wing terrorism resulting out of the situation there last night that will overshadow joe biden's presidency well this all comes after what was really an extraordinary day and night on capitol hill
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scenes that we haven't seen before we'll talk about that in a moment 1st let's take a look back at what happened. unravels on capitol hill as the building is stalled by hundreds of trump supporters. battling shoes between riot police and the protesters as they break cost security. was based on the senate chambers to prevent congress from certifying joe biden's election victory literally bringing democracy to a halt. by. police then through that dawn's. was was a woman was shot by police offices and was lead to proclaim dad was
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some protesters also turned that anger against the media. yes i do not feel like we're. all. brought up early i had a rally near the white house president trump had repeated his unsubstantiated claims that the election had been stolen from him and search his supporters to randy at the capital you were going to walk down to the capitol was going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. trump then released a recorded message telling his supporters to go home but failed to condemn the actions we have to have peace so go home we love you you're very special you've seen what happened trump has now been suspended from several social
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media accounts including twitter off the tweeting to supporters who attacked the capital. when lawmakers finally got back into the senate chambers several senior republicans condemned the violence including trump's vice president mike pence today was a dark day in the history of the united states capitol we condemn the violence that took place here in the strongest possible terms. the violence was branded as a siege by president elect joe biden who warned of a threat to democracy. stormed the capital to smash windows to occupy offices the floor of the united states senate rummaging through desks. on the capital of the house of representatives threatening the safety of duly elected officials protests it's insurrection. the crowd
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dissipated once the 6 pm curfew came into force but national guard troops remain alert for potential violence throughout the night. you know all over we saw condemnation really of this violence across the board but will there be consequences for donald trump. it's a very important point of course he has 14 days left in office and what we've seen yesterday is that there can be a lot of damage in the remaining time and so a lot of republicans of course are breaking loose right now many of his former allies so the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is one of them buys president spends also his ally very cold lindsey graham senator of south carolina and cabinet is holding preliminary talks about invoking the 25th amendment that is an amendment that would basically allow another president to step in temporarily for
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the remainder of the time until the inauguration that is only used or has been only used for medical emergencies once under reagan now in this case cabinet could to declare at all times inability to discharge his duties a simple majority is enough for that and then vice president mike pence would step in for donald trump but no matter what happens next of course it's important to point out that january 20th will be the inauguration of joe biden this next president of the united states and what about concerns here about american democracy on the whole and whether its institutions really have been damaged. well this has been a very dark day in american history i think most of the analysts agree on that the damage that has been done is enormous also the reputation of american democracy if you think about the fact that the u.s. has always been leading by example trying to export democracy to other countries and that credibility is certainly significantly damaged nala countries of
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totalitarian regimes in particular like china and russia will simply say you know you won't criticize us if you don't have the situation under control in your own country that will cast a shadow over joe biden's presidency for sure and also the acceptance of course of his presidency there is a large part of the population who doesn't believe that he is the legitimate president and that damage that has been done by that will be felt for a long time. over salary porting from washington thank you very much. well leaders around the world watched in disbelief as the chaos unfolded in washington many have condemned the violence and called for democracy to be respected german chancellor angela merkel gave her reaction a little while ago let's listen and. we all saw the unsettling pictures of the u.s. congress being stormed yesterday evening and these images made me angry and also
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sad. i'm sure those feelings the shared by the vast majority of the united states friends and the millions of people who admire america's democratic traditions. and want to be goaded to move the basic rule of democracy is after elections there are winners and losers both have to play their roles with decency and responsibility so that democracy itself remains the winner and i very much regret that since november president trump has not acknowledged his defeat and failed again to do so yesterday doubts about the outcome of the election was stoked and that set the stage for what made wednesday's events possible in the 1st place but the words of president elect joe biden and reactions from both u.s. parties make me quite certain that democracy will prove to be much stronger than the attackers and rioters and i thought. our chief political editor mr
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snow was there recovering the chancellor statement for us. what did you make of what we heard from chancellor merkel. well clearly angela merkel has come full circle with us president donald trump it was her made her cooperation conditional on him appearing to those western values of democracy when she can grant you laces him to his election victory 4 years ago now we see a german chancellor who's giving him at least part of the blame for the scenes that we saw on capitol hill over the. past 24 hours and i also directly what damage she felt had been done to the very concept of western democracy and she responded saying that yes of course this didn't really paint a very positive picture of particular to those watching all over the world who don't wish democracy well who want to see a more total hereon rule this is something she's referred to many times actually
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particular throughout this pandemic that democracies need to so that they can deliver but she did also stress she would do that democratic institutions are prevailing in the united states and that that was the important message that was also being sent by those scenes well many germans have also been echoing chancellor merkel's concerns about what happened in washington and we talked to some people on the streets of berlin let's listen to what they said. i was very very shocked these pictures reminded me of the situation that the german parliament when conspiracy theorists stormed the bundestag yeah yeah what was really bad was that in the usa of all places. people managed to get through. dimension. and there was no police no one to stop them. terrible i didn't expect something like this but i guess you can expect anything else from trump strength i. do think
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that it's not a bad idea to show that a state should wield power to ensure security in a country. even more efficient when i'm alone than this from because i'm leaving. but it is also important to show that the power still comes from the people. michel they hearing some voices there from germans what about other lawmakers here in berlin how worried are they by what unfolded in washington. well they are certainly disconcerted but even within the governing coalition you see differences in how this is being received and interpreted the chief whip of the social democrats who also have the foreign ministry here in germany he said that it was now time for you have to depart from standing so close america's side whereas angela merkel's conservative camp sees this as a reaffirmation that now was the time to stand together with the united states and defend that very value of democracy i also would like to add that the german
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president who largely holds a ceremonial role here in germany accused donald trump of having disregarded the cornerstone of democracy that peaceful transfer of power he also appealed to germans that particular politicians quite clearly that in this election year in germany it was time to show that democracy would prevail and that the democracy would be stronger than all the difference is that people may half so this is yet again sparking debate over the relationship with the united states at the same time sending the signal that it's time to decide how united the west and particularly with the u.s. at the home video is our chief political editor thank you very much. well all round the world there was disbelief at the scenes that unfolded in the u.s. capital we can take a look at some of the front pages from around the world you see germany's billed newspaper here calling it an attempted coup and
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a moment of great shame well in britain the daily cook telegraph did not mince any words here saying democracy itself with under siege the pictures the striking images of trump supporters storming the capital they dominated the united arab emirates gulf news here you see that image there and we also have the nigerian tribune issuing this blistering verdict saying trump supporters defile u.s. democracy so very clear that the front pages have been dominated by this let's get some more international perspective now going to china correspondent standing by for us there hi mike ts good to see you as so we know that the chinese are trying to compare the storming of the capital with the pro-democracy protests in hong kong tell us more about this comparison. i. think. it's a story that just looks like. i. think
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i. like a bit less seriously i. have to imagine how craig newmark or she took control of his many interviews by the page if you continue to do so if you. feel. like. what you see the. sport has been used to launch cues her off supporting streatch body because it's actually every school she has sat on because. campbell alchemic you. remember i. met you some person we're going to leave it there looks like we were having so much trouble with that connection to mature spending
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a correspondent there in beijing all across europe other leaders have echoed chancellor merkel's condemnation of the attack on the u.s. capitol this is what french president in monaco had to say i just wanted to express our friendship and i'll face in the united states what happened today in washington d.c. is not america definitely we believe in the throwing things of all democracies we believe. in the strength of america let's get some more european perspective now we can speak to kratos 5 she quit ski's the chair of the delegation for relations with the us a member of the european parliament and he's joining us on the line from low poland mr i want to ask you 1st of all about a tweet that you sent out saying that the u.s. cabinet should immediately under the 25th amendment of the us constitution a declared donald trump insane and terminate his presidency so you really think
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that president is not fit to serve out his final days in office. you know years and never was a college of electors which was specifically created by the founders of the american republic to prevent demagogues from gaining who should fulfill that role and let me remind you that his own thinkers are afraid called him a moron and it was he who called for the demonstrators to march on the capitol and the question is what else he can do in the remaining 2 weeks in office and from what i hear i don't remember of his cabinet oh are considering whether or not to. the 25th remember what message you think this sends because the german foreign minister has said democracies enemies would rejoice to see images like this do you agree. well of course. you were only need to look at chinese russian or your
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russian media to prove i'd even be useful to offer to be progress would be gone by. for point. in the long run. probably some of the conspiracy theories to. continue to peddle after he leaves office. ok and well we've heard that this is not just a threat in the us we know that europe has seen populist surges as well do you think that something like this could actually happen in europe as well. book from and over like you have discovered there are a bunch of 3rd of the population of the country who care about democracy and in fact an area of view point and the 1st to go to attribute the commotion to. a kind of computer 3000000000 and what matters is the
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proportion and where. to prove democratic majority. will leave it there then. the chair of the delegation for relations with the u.s. member of the european parliament thank you so much for joining us here and. thank you for. well now as we heard earlier in our report facebook and twitter took the unprecedented step of suspending president the president's account when he continued to push conspiracy theories about the election even in his as his diehard supporters were storming the capitol twitter blocked from communicating with his nearly $90000000.00 followers for 12 hours warning that further violations of its rules would result in the permanent suspension of his account of facebook said it would be blocking the president's account for 24 hours for.
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and we have now with us alicia deter from date of his show shifted as our show on technology and social media pleasure thanks mate thanks very much for joining us now 1st of all we know that a trance facebook account his twitter account they have been blocked was that the right move to make a bigger than understandable. source in new york at the moment a lot of pressure on the one hand there are 2 guns i don't use hate speech on the other hand they have the government the freedom of speech as well so the president of the united states alston all the rules about election fraud for all of them one of those supposed to do with and reactively past lives labeling some of transpose that got them a lot of criticism from conservatives you know as politicians they say this is a form of censorship and they even argue that facebook and twitter have
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a liberal political agenda so social media platforms are walking on very thin eyes at the moment but from supporters storming the capital is a very serious incident and trump has not been clearly has not leading sometimes violent acts by a right wing groups in the past were they looking for some time order to spread it to start to spread out right violence and more hate is that is understandable in a market like that but of course here we know that you know he doesn't have his facebook and twitter accounts active right now he's released this statement about a smoother orderly transition of power so how is he reaching his supporters. right now he's not using supposin sour actually apart from facebook and twitter all that forms a lot of as well what we're talking about is the one we're talking about snapchat even you tube blocks south of the farm south can't really
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follow us at the moment but still he has it's all scorsese for example a dance between orleans. he's leaving earth office of social media at the white house he was hit on trying to be hot and he wrote that there will be an on the transition on jemima 20 or so eastern has ways to communicate it is supporters but it's still disputable of the really extreme drum circles can still be reached through facebook and twitter because they might it moved somewhere else already known to other platforms what about what we know and how trump supporters actually organized ahead of yesterday's riots. yes this is what i said before they are meeting on new forms already like the most popular ones might be par and gasp this hour that's what we have that hands that. focus on the news
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and they say they. lose those news that what is true so that it does happen and of bhangra liberation of facebook and twitter and they saw a lot of people from the right respect from moving their power for example might be the biggest one of the moment if you look under the hashtag start this year you can find out 700 horse some of that hash tag and yesterday after trump finished his speech where he told is followers to protest and mass they read the conversational part of really very intense that they really use power to organize themselves they wished resist they could use to avoid police for example they believe there is no rule about which rules to bring to break the laws that the capital. or the voters are carrying out inside so and so these are really platforms that have
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amassed a lot of relevant people so i don't think the you know they use twitter and facebook and more very interesting stuff thank you very much the host of our show a shift. 33 photos some other headlines from around the world the mayor of paris and france's interior minister have laid flowers and held a minute's silence for the victims of the attack that happened 6 years ago today in 2015 jihadist gunmen stormed the offices of the satirical newspaper and shot dead 12 people. there's been widespread international condemnation of the hong kong authorities after the mass arrests of pro-democracy opposition figures $53.00 people were detained under beijing's new security law western nations accused authorities of grave repression and a grievous attack on freedoms promised when britain handed hong kong back to china . japan has declared a state of emergency for tokyo and 3 nearby regions as coronavirus cases rise to
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new daily highs stay at home measures will be enforced starting friday for a month the japanese capital reported more than 2400 cases on thursday that's almost 1000 cases more than the previous state. let's get a reminder now of our top stories here in d.w. congress has confirmed joe biden as the next president of the united states that affirmation came just hours after supporters of donald trump try to disrupt proceedings by storming the u.s. capitol one person was shot and killed in the violence and across the world political leaders have reacted with shock at the chaos of washington germany's chancellor angela merkel has slammed president trump for stoking the violence by failing to admit defeat. coming up next on new our show conflicts and that's a hard hitting interview series with a chance of us and don't forget you can always get the very latest by going to our website d.w. dot com you can also follow us on twitter and instagram our handle there is apt to
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the conflict zone with tim sebastian. china is roiling the west and europe along with the u.s. in many countries is pushing back hard actually sure the growing list of human rights goes songs including home homes new security lol my guess is me from beijing is one cool yeah well why is his country speaking so many fights these babies aware
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how much work and really do. we still have time to. i'm going. to subset. that subscribe for. well i think that china is picking a fight or it's one country one system now isn't it and it was a cover up that not only right out right it's also still corrupt goes right through my system doesn't it china is roiling the west and europe along with the us in many countries is pushing back hard at issue a growing list of human rights concerns including hong kong's new security law my guest this week from beijing is one who yeah out of government advisor who heads the think tank the center for china and globalization wise he's country picking so
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many fights these days and where are they all leading. up to wang julio welcome to conflict zone thank you europe's getting fed up with beijing's threatening behavior and telling politicians here where they can go and who they can talk to telling the nobel prize committee who it can award and who it can't what made your government think it could push europe around like this what the 1st time for you to hear that but i don't think that that was the government position or there could be a misunderstanding or. you know there's a maybe there's a lack communication whatever. i heard from you i don't hear anything from that. here in china i don't think so well perhaps you don't hear about it in china but just days ago the german foreign minister heiko mass told beijing bluntly to stop
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threatening europe after a senior czech politician has gone to taiwan and addressed its parliament your government had warned he'd pay a heavy price for his visit there that's bullying isn't it no i don't think that there was really probably under. during arriving i think that you know one china policy has been. hold and has been really maintained for the last. 4050 years and also it's a basis of china establish diplomatic ties with all the countries that have east it diplomatic relation with china so so i think country publish should. really safeguard is one china policy and not having those official high level visit so i think it's a i can't stand china is not happy and you know the maybe the
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speaker maybe reflect that. and satisfaction so so i hope that. this is not a could be interpreted. as a china sweater or anything so so that is poverty a different operations but also when you may not like western politicians visiting taiwan or chinese nationals being awarded nobel prizes but that's your problem isn't it i mean these repeated attempts to impose your own prejudices and insecurities onto the international community ultimately doing you any good a tall are you it's counterproductive wow i think that probably a country has set about diplomatic ties with china i'm sure they go through the they've gone through the diplomatic establish in relation talks and they have actually already. bit by certain principles and the guidance so if they recognize one china policy and then that one china policy does not.
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you know also reflect the official contact putin the other country and taiwan and that should really be respected i think so if certain countries doing. that china certainly has a right to. you know express their opinions as well i think that china just just expressed its satisfaction on its opinion so i think that should not be interpreted any more than that well if you intended a strong reaction if you intended a strong reaction from the european union you got it because it's foreign policy chief you don't have burrell code china your government expansionist or thora tarion and the new empire that undermines international law did you really want to pick a fight with your largest export market well i don't think that china is the picking a fight always with china largest market no i mean it's probably both market
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for both those regions as well and as i said you know there are there are certain. guidelines and principles 11 country is that. diplomatic ties and the recognize one china policy and national. wire lated or bridged and if that is happen china certainly have a right to protest and the give. in the dissatisfaction and those of his comment i think that's fair you know that's not expansionist but you're just too sensitive about free speech and free contacts because you don't exactly have a lot of it in china yourself do you know as well non-government think we don't understand lot of. probably government policy so we speak from non-government private think time point of view but you are
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a government advisor we are listed in your own facebook page as a government advisor you advise the government the way up would do otherwise i think that does does otherwise is to of course but the we are not the government we have not gotten officials we advise in think time does otherwise people of course but. when our government so so i'm not a common spokes person so so so if i knew if i think time understanding i can explain but some i don't know i so i i cannot satisfy you of course so you are you telling me you're surprised that the kind of language that china uses these days when it's dealing with the west and dealing with other countries i mean we have. like your embassy in venezuela told those who talked about the china virus they told them to put on a face mask and shut up is that the kind of diplomatic language you think is a good idea for china to use these days well the situation you've been describing some of them haven't heard before but. i think that maybe there is
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a contest or there or there is china is also under a lot of attacks and. so i think we should really have a dialogue we should have come to the occasion of visiting i certainly think that it is planned that he has stopped. people to people exchanges and stop the many visit and also many exchanges. between china and our cyber war so that's very unfortunate and i hope that. you know we should overcome that one and that is under control i think the government is doing its best and also we see that officers is visiting some countries to conduct exchanges of dialogue which is a great i mean we did that your foreign minister came to europe and he warned again last month about the consequences of giving awards to hong kong's pro-democracy movement if you're complaining about coercive diplomacy from washington on your
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then you try practicing the same coercive diplomacy on europe that's hypocrisy isn't it i think there could be some misunderstanding i think on the issue of hong kong certainly i think that. the young people have some. of the concerns of the widening. gap between rich and poor and things like that so i think the chinese government has realized that it is so the they have launched this great baby project so there are many policies you shoot so the young people can come to you know a great brain ground an area to to have a warrant to have a study to settle down there so the sort of that many users has been has been noted in the dressing that but on the other hand i don't think we need a chaotic hong kong where airports is a blog and. you know bystander were put on the gasolines and that's led to
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letters council was installed and smashed. shop and not analyzed the expect what do you expect when china has been whittling away at the territories freedoms for some time now we've seen a crackdown on the people who led protests in 2014 we saw booksellers kidnapped and turning up strangely on the mainland because you didn't like the books that they were selling and now this new security law which has been condemned by many countries around the world as well as un human rights expert fact is this new law violates both the letter and the spirit of the basic law in hong kong and it was brought to you without any consultation so beijing now rules what i think the hong kong that is why that is why people are upset in hong kong. walk understand the situation but i think the hong kong also need stability and also order
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and the law of course and central government of course according to the basic law they have the right for the fans the policy and security of all the countries has a security law and china is no exception so i think that you can see now the hong home the stock market is about. and that they are now prepared for the largest i.p.o. in a war or divestment are back to hong kong and. it's got in business is back to normal gradually so i think that people will understand in the long run it's going to be really good for hong kong if we have these. peace and the prosperity and security return back to china or to hong kong of course but of course. there's always people more objectives once more accomplished more but it takes time you know in the gradually being one british rule hong kong 400 years the never give them any democracy so you can expect that. you know very 1st so with china of
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course but i think you know the underlying come to when you haven't you have you know given hong kong stability with this new security law you simply imposed a dictatorship and a police state the un human rights experts who just written to your government aren't buying the stability argument what worries them in their words is that cut tel moment of freedoms of expression peaceful assembly and the société and the interference with the ability of civil society organizations to perform that more full function and we've already seen that happening haven't we you talk about stability being coming back to hong kong and healthy markets since the new law came in dozens of key pro-democracy figures have been detained including 2 lawmakers that's not a that's not stability that's a police state that you've imposed what you're sort of the has your interpretations but i think that basically. given what happened in the us you
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know you can present trouble than our law or any violence or any vandal asians or this or other so so the of course china is not perfect. you know there's no. perfect policy but you know probably china was forced to because you you know china has to maintain the stability and the law and order there and so that all the multinationals companies can come back as not running away stock market account can be rebuilt and confidence can return the largest i.p.o. in the world can happen so so there's nothing is perfect of course but this is not this is not a way that is this is a long way from perfect dr wang isn't it i mean you've seen police already the weather but even the u.s. we've seen people east ready we're not talking about the u.s. we're talking about hong kong here and beijing's as you know you have
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a lot of and we've seen the fundamental freedoms turned into crimes by this new security law which you've introduced and the rest of the world did you think they wouldn't notice we had a joint statement last month from the governments of australia canada new zealand u.k. us saying the law was eroding hong kong's people hong kong's fundamental rights and liberties and you your answer to that is well nothing's perfect but the markets are doing well well what i'm saying is that hong kong as. a part of china as one country to assist you know they need to also it's one country one system now isn't it and well let me let me finish you keep interrupting me what i'm saying is that hong kong needs stability and of course. law as well because hong kong cannot be for the last 6789 months i mean there in the last year
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hong kong is basically dysfunctional and it's paralyzed and to be in airport abroad . people were put on the order of one to burn you know on the standards and the letters goebbels thought no country in the world with allow that and then there's a. all people would have loved from told me that they don't feel secure in hong kong anymore to talk legal guns are doing something did you think them when the people of hong kong would simply sit by and watch their freedoms erode and being eroded by beijing and not do anything about it did you really think that then you miscalculated bad although i think that. you know that you have there are certainly people you hang on. you know have different opinions of course that is that is obvious by the but also you have to really think that the one is new national security law established there's almost $3000000.00 you know voted.
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in favor of this law so. that is that is also a fact that we should not be glad but let's let the time speak for itself let the market speak for ourselves let's let the people find acceptance for its 6 percent i think would we shouldn you know there's only. 2 or 3 months from the slaughter let's take a longer view as you say we can see the long in fact what we really want a longer view we've already seen what the long view is going to look like because i pointed out you dozens of pro-democracy figures have been detained not only that the police have raided the offices of apple daily one of the few news outlets that beijing doesn't control the paper's founder jimmy ly was arrested together with 8.
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