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facing scare tactics intimidation. and i wonder is that we were heading as well. my responsibility as a journalist is to get beyond the smoking mirrors it's not just about the balance we're being neutral it's about being true. and. this is. coming up today. in the wilds for most this country. begins. with a chinese vaccine. and whether. the
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pandemic. welcome to. you could join us indonesia has begun vaccinating its people against covert 19 the world's fold most populous nation has placed its faith in a vaccine developed by chinese companies sign of president. became the 1st to receive his shot to dozers a prescribed vaccinations are free for all citizens. to vaccinate at least 2 thirds of the population to achieve immunity but trust in the vaccine has been an issue in the majority must the mission of now certify that the vaccine is acceptable reporters went west java to see what people that thought about the government's
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campaign. i don't want the vaccine i have more faith in traditional medicine but now. i want to be vaccinated it's for our immune systems. maybe it will make indonesian people more resistant to this decease which has become a pandemic. and. probably a lot of them alike i won't hesitate to be vaccinated but only if the vaccine is proven effective i want it so we can be healthy and not get infected with co that. regular. i hope that the vaccine is provided free of charge. if it isn't free i hope it will at least be affordable for all citizens. i have infections were
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decreasing rapidly many people are tired of staying at home hopefully indonesia get better soon if it isn't about something like. that but as long as the government can't offer any certainty we're still in a grey zone so hopefully the government will provide assurances to the public that . the government isn't prepared because of indonesia's rising population in remote difficult to reach areas the vaccine should be a viable everywhere for one. in my opinion we're not prepared indonesia's population is enormous around 270000000 people and we've only got around 2000000 doses so far so we're still far from ready with yeah yeah i'm going to think it's a good thing that the indonesian government is preparing for most vexing nations. but it will take time because not everyone is aware of it the public should be
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better informed so they are willing to be vaccinated our health is precious. let's bring in a dickie body monism epidemiologist at griffith university in queensland australia mr bogeyman do people across this vaccine. it's just a mummy smile a collision in a nice and these. dark and just really are so small fraction of only 3 or so they used scotland you know the facts in this we said this in are because the room or site has been spread far must and i was 6 miles i was only of the the under me and you know during the despondency as the recent sitting in front of me this is the 1st time in human the story the un the fox in fact if you east just started before the fox in
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come up that's the writer's time in humans that's why the influence the money thing now. but there have also been questions of of this particular vaccine in terms of its efficacy i mean new york they had of it as are most from brazil or the efficacies only a little above 50 percent whereas opposed claimed by indonesia to some around the 65 percent mark is that also contributing to the naysayers the government. doesn't address these who. are these discrepancies. or are probably at least so it really that influence and more of these folks in has it and so but because actually there is not problem with the sept the us there isn't a not problem with the efficacy because the me one requirement is high speed. at least if we caught we on plant at least is above 50 percent and maybe.
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they 70 percent so how does indonesia plan to go about a vaccination process because here in new york for example order people who've been given priority every comes to vaccination but that is not the case in indonesia. unfortunately as the country who are saw of dealing with these are struggling with the fundamental now we are i mean an easy hour just have now as the days and tools is in effect in one of their states because with technology and easy to distribute but there are weaknesses that adamantly their weakness is because the range of 8 is. 18 to 59 percent and also because the trial in new leases this elite is our
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only get that the out in there are very stark. some basically government. or not it's kept from the finally start regularly these so while they await the. final result they have to choose the strategy huntly so they do the 1st step of arson essential health care workers to protect them around the state in productive aged but i would strongly. advise the government that they. have thought the honorable and over that next step a soon or rather than later dicky put him on indonesian epidemiologist at griffith university thank you so much for talking to us. just. militias king has suspended parliament as part of a state of emergency purportedly to manage the rise in coronavirus cases in the
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country activists and opposition lawmakers however claim it's an attempt by a weak government to stay in power prime minister we have been yes ian has headed a shaky coalition since taking office last year the state of emergency suspends not just palm and but also any elections to form a more stable government yes in proposed emergency measures at the same time that a near lockdown went into effect across some regions to control the pandemic. malaysia under strict movement contro amid a partial lockdown life has been brought to a standstill here as to number of coronavirus cases continues to search and among these tough measures a declaration not heard in 50 years. so at the last yesterday i met with our king his royal highness to go on to present to his royal highness our ministerial proposal that
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a state of emergency to be proclaimed by the king in accordance with article 155 of our constitution. the move allows the prime minister to suspend parliament and delay general elections until at least august critics say the weakened government simply wants to avoid leadership challenges. this emergency has nothing to do with the pen demick maybe there's another agenda maybe politics that's what i feel this is. others support the government's rationale that the emergency declaration was driven by health concerns and elections will be held once it's safe. malaysia is now recording more than $550.00 s. and thousands of new infections every day. for frontline work is the health emergency needs to be brought under control as soon as possible. and
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correspondent david greene from kuala lumpur a day of state of emergency and localized lockdowns to deal with the pandemic are lockdowns insufficient in tackling this hope emergency you know if we had had stricter enforcement of the requirements and been in place for months now maybe we won't be in this situation it's hard to say for sure but there has not been super strict requirements in the mass where and i've been in the restaurants rob sometimes in the chef with his mask followers chin if we had better requirements in terms of spacing between customers and restaurants in terms of acting and force if there had been better and quicker use of contact tracing maybe it would we would not be in the situation now but it's hard to say for sure but the state of emergency is not only about public health it's also about politics. speaking of father thinks people are calling it. an attempt by the government to stay on in power is it. well the current prime minister he says he is basically as of
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last week lost the majority of support in parliament and he's been hanging on. by a thread all along so there were concerns that what we could see is a collapse of the current government parliament being dissolved and then snap elections during a pandemic now we had snap elections in the eastern state of sabah last year and what happened is a lot of people from across the country went back to their homes at a stop at a vote they caught cove in 1000 coronavirus and brought it back and it spread across the country so there were real concerns that we had nationwide elections that maybe we could see that on a much bigger scale now so you've got the concern about that you've got a concern about a weak government that's in power right now and having all those collide obviously the minority parties are saying this is just a way for and they try to cling to power other people saying look he's got that we've got to do what we have to do to avoid snap elections. and speaking of the state of emergency and its relation to the government go over 19 pandemic what does
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the special powers of the state different margin see gives the government that enable it to control its own brick i mean basically the government doesn't need the prime minister doesn't need them and to approve laws he could bring tighter laws in place you use the military police potentially if you want to try and force stricter lock down it basically will give them almost unchecked power that's what this gives them and this potentially could last for several months i mean they could rescinded it any time they can to take it back but in theory right now we're looking at the possibility of seeing the state of emergency perhaps to august briefly the the quote about the situation in the country. when we had a record high number of cases yesterday 3309 deaths total or up to almost 559 yesterday and the total number of cornelius cases past 141000 the situation has gotten dramatically worse in recent weeks. there are concerns that if it continues
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at this pace that the health system would be overloaded it would not be able to handle it they're going to be in colombo thank you so much. and that's if it's of it is of course more of did. we even know with the start of indonesia's massive back so there's from campaign for dark morris is that. the fight against the corona virus 10 damage. has the rate of infection been developing what does the latest research say. information and context the coronavirus update 19 special. on t w. children to come to.
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one giant problem. in. the 1st year you. may need the change in a fuel economy. how will climate change affect us and our children cars. and e.w. dot com slash water. fighting the pandemic could become a battle against it. lock downs have halted the flow of cash to workers and companies forcing governments to step in. so we need to provide more immediate relief for working families and business is now now. countries rich and poor
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of burning through vast amounts of money but it's old onload. taking on debt like never before and could be setting a dangerous precedent. leave younger generations to foot the bill and their financial future is already look lake. economists will have to dig deep to get out of this crisis but the pandemics not the only guilty party the pace of global public debt accumulation has increased by tens of trillions of dollars over the past few years. us. vast sums of being spent to bail out the ravaged economies hundreds of billions of euros in germany. in india. in china. than to midnight it states trillions.
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governments have to borrow most of this money but who will pay the debt back. today's elderly short today's young. much public debt only comes to you decades later that means today's young will carry the can in many countries. there is already a shortage of jobs and training opportunities higher taxes and spending cuts are quite likely in the future so are today's millennial as the main losers in the coronavirus crisis. not necessarily they might also stand to benefit if the investment is focused on shaping the future . education digitalisation. environmental protection. if firms are kept going through the process jobs should become available again holders of government bonds should eventually get paid out for days young will
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inherit public debt but some of them will also inherit government bonds so members of the same generation will be paying each other back foot. if an economy grows strongly repaying debt won't be a huge problem. protracted crisis by contrast would be a disaster. inflation bankruptcy's mass unemployment would be much worse for coming generations than inheriting a pile of public debt. laurie passons is british academy post-doctoral research fellow at royal holloway university of london what do you reckon dangerous precedent or a sound way of funding the recover it. well i think you know answering that question they thought this thing that we have to consider is the sinks in between public debt and private debt as an individual something often gets conflated in
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public discourse but nevertheless it's a very important distinction to consider when we think about recovery and debt terms from this crisis now where as an individual who takes out a loan on a credit card for example has faced terms of interest in repayment a country which takes out that takes out loans usually in its own currency and this has huge implications for the way in which that debt is repaid for example a currency which takes on debt has influence both directly by the issuing of government bonds and also indirectly fiat influence so that the central bank which can change interest rates and also the supply of money said a country which takes on debt whatever reasons actually has quite a significant amount of control retained over the way in which they repay it and actually this make this possible to take a number of strategies to that repayment and there are some examples quite recently one of the positive things is that the 2008 great recession actually gave us some examples of better and poor practice in that respect right here in the u.k.
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for example where an example of not doing terribly well because of the huge emphasis on austerity cuts in public service isn't causing about as much debt as possible to quickly which is now generally thought to impeded the recovery from that 2008 crash so i hope that in the wake of that code 19 crisis we see a different strategy more broadly accepted in morning which we see a broad push towards to its growth and widely shared prosperity rather than emphasizing that that in itself is a one that's working in both developed and developing countries. well the important thing to think i think about about the difference between the south countries like germany and the u.k. countries such as india bangladesh cambodia is that in many cases those dead on held in then national currency so that was a very different spin on things essentially so whereas we want to control the times
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about that in a country in the global south you tend to help hold debt for example in u.s. dollars or one of the available currencies such as pound sterling as a result of that means you don't have that control over the terms by which you repay that debt now this means that you have to repay it even if it is economically extremely damaging to do so and so this is by no means a new issue is something which has been going on for a very long time and it is likely to be accelerating the very significant way by the debts accrued as a result of the 19 crises just to give you some idea of the extent to which this already goes on just the interest payments alone from banks in new york and london have amounted to around $4.00 trillion in payments from the global south to go no it's not it's already considerably more than the total sum of development aid spending so many ways we have a situation where as a result of debt is the global south developing the global know it's more than the other way around so we'll look at this depends upon what the dollar is doing what
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the u.s. economy is doing and let's look at the total public debt in the u.s. as a percentage of gross domestic product from the global financial crisis up until this crisis the graph gets scary how we going to keep up well how is the u.s. going to keep up. well i mean the u.s. is being the homes of one of the major currencies in the in the world has a huge advantage in that respect it can do a lot to include its ways in which it repays that debt and it's an important of course to consider not only a single graph in which you're looking at debt but also the wider context if you will public health response involves people staying home if you think that their workplaces are too dangerous and that's going to influence the spreading of the virus in places like that and if you want them to actually stay at home then you simply have to pay them in some respects and that's what's caused and done an different way to european countries but through the same basic idea of the fiscal stimulus checks that been written in the u.s. as a result of those necessary provisions which are absolutely essential if you want people
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to stay home if that is your public health response then we see these huge increases of debt but nevertheless you have to consider the counterfactual web by all of these businesses and all of those individuals who are unable to have any income businesses were unable to maintain any of that any of their own going financial commitments and as a result of that when you wake up from the crosses you find yourself essentially emerging into something of an economic wasteland so that's what all of this money has been in the set up so it's essentially an investment now in future prosperity whereby we have the same economic tools and landscaping infrastructure has to rebound to that position that we were in in the 2020 and what happens if we don't wake up from this any time soon if we are forced to stay home a lot longer if another pandemic hits right after this one. well i think of course it's a problem that we all hope not to have to face i think however it's important to retain a certain degree of optimism of the future especially in relation to our economic
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behavior of course the attitudes that we take into this recovery will be hugely important in allowing us to rebound strongly and return to something like the normality which we knew 2020 so optimism i hope towards the latter part of this year will be the order of the day thousands university of london thank you. it's that part of the show where we put your questions to our science correspondent eric williams. what's the chances on a long hole flying out of contract 19 on the plane. i haven't been on a plane for over a year now but i've heard from family and friends and colleagues just how unnerving flying has become especially on long haul flights where people can be cooped up together for for upwards of 15 hours at a time it's become an activity somewhat fraught with uncertainties since since the
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science we have on transmission in airplanes is still pretty meager that's because you can't run a tightly controlled experiment involving an infectious possibly deadly pathogen on a long commercial flight instead you have to see whether outbreaks might have originated on one and then extrapolate backwards which is always a tricky business that's what a study from new zealand did with a flight that arrived there from dubai in late september now passengers who fly to new zealand at the moment have to quarantine for 2 weeks on arrival and they're tested for the virus twice during that period 7 out of 86 passengers from the dubai flight tested positive during that quarantine and because most of them had tested negative before takeoff the scientists believed the indicators were very
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strong that the infection had happened in flight they based their hypothesis on a range of data some of it epidemiologic but also the in-flight seating plan when the symptoms began and the genome sequences of viruses taken from each of the past . years perhaps the most compelling evidence for me was proximity how close the people who ended up infected sat in relationship to one another on the plane that rule for dots by the way was a family and the scientists the original transmitter was one of the people represented by a blue dot all the all i found the study a very convincing that transmission on a long haul flight can happen but we still don't know how rarely or or how often it happens or or what factors exactly might contribute to it.
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before we go the economic impact of the pandemic is leaving some poor communities with no choice but to resort to using natural resources to meet their daily needs that includes destroying the habitats of these guys the w w f conservation group has issued a global deforestation warning it says madagascar is hard hit almost all species of leave of face extinction small primates native to the island as hope they let tourists back in soon to support sector and locals from chopping down trees.
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