tv Kulturzeit Deutsche Welle January 14, 2021 2:30pm-3:01pm CET
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i'm british well. you could join us a team of experts from the world health organization has arrived in china to investigate the origins of the corona virus the international team arrived in the city where the 1st cases of the virus were detected in 2019 the team will spend around a month in the country including. that began immediately. it is not looking to apportion blame for the spread of the virus. joining me for more is victor garber he's from the center for china and globalization a think tank close to the chinese communist party to go welcome good to have you back on the program. thank you. mr goh how committed is the chinese government to ensuring the team are able to carry out their work for me. i think
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china as a whole the chinese government and the chinese people are fully committed to working closely with the w h l team of scientists to study and as allies what happened. 'd in december 29th and what exactly is the origin of this fires this is very important i think the chinese people want to know the truth mankind want to know the truth. speaking about knowing the truth the duggar team out there to determine as you correctly point out the origins of this virus but there have been lots of media reports particularly and also government people who've been saying in china that the virus did not originate here that have been suggestions that it originated in italy but it was imported through food packaging that it was imported through the united states of the u.s. army what would you say to that is that an attempt by china to muddy the waters.
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no i don't think so i think several things are very very important and can be verified 1st of all in december 29th teen was discovered lots of people got sick and they did their scientific research and eventually they concluded it is caused by a new virus subsequently veined as they called it 19 virus and gender of the 23rd 20192020 the whole city of will hot with a population of 12000000 people was completely lost now the fact that china discover this sars in will highly december 29th change should not be. interpreted as if the virus itself originated. why because subsequently to have heard a lot of scientific research done by
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a different countries including very recently in spain saying that they discovered this fire is as early as being november 29th so i think that probably all scientific investigation should study all these different pieces of information to make sure that they do get to the real all richey's all the hours. of its need to adopt a scientific method i'm sorry to interrupt you need to point out here the doublets it's also said that all of these claims are highly speculative let me just quote what the doublets was emergency chief mike ryan had to say he said it's highly speculative for us to say that the disease a did not emerge in this child the doubler's of those in the group there will. no i don't think so i think scientific investigation should be done in a scientific way they should not artificially include all exclude any material
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pieces of information and these scientific investigations and the reports were not found by china it was done by spanish scientists italian scientists generally scientists french scientists i think they all deserve the attention of the w.h.o. rather than being dismissed as if it is china about them in the water so i don't think china wants to bother the one that china wants to see the real truth a real all region of the virus you speak about the scientific evidence that to go but then i'm giving you the words of a scientific sign a senior the functionality of the double murder trial might brian who's saying that whatever you're saying essentially is highly speculative so you talk about scientific proof on the one hand yet you does for god what the scientific person is saying. no i don't think so i think the remarks you quoted the just now were laid before the discovery of many subsequent scientific finding
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including the report i mentioned published in italy very least i think just within the past 30 days also and i think probably h.-o. as it's leading scientists should really think cruelty ever seeing in the material says in their scope of investigation for other than for example jumping the gun and come to the conclusion that the origin of the virus was seen china disregarding all the material pieces of information probably proving the other was right you spoke about the discovery of the viruses in one and you gave a timeline from december to the 23rd of january when won the epicenter was essentially placed in a locked on but let's look at december it is as early as the 1st of december but a scientific journal the long says has been saying that symptoms were observed in
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war on and off of that you've had chinese doctors such as not only one young who were warning apologies that something strange is happening here yet those warnings appear not to have been taken on board and you have more than a month nearly 2 months in fact from the 1st of december to litwin the 3rd of january when serious action begins to be taken did china miss these early warnings . well couple of things 1st of all let me talk about the stance of the us who is held as a national hero in china and he actually agreed raise the red flag but still will not. make scientist he was an icon he called the alon for some as we know mao it's not such as it's cold it's 19 i think i don't tell you what the i had all the good being patients but she actually raised a red flag for a number of critical epidemic a problem rather then called the 13 hard drinking time so it's really really. all
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the credit i'm sorry to interrupt so but it needs to be made that he didn't just say saws he said saws coronavirus and before they were to leave and then there were other doctors who talked about the mysterious pneumonia like waters and going back to those to leave and he also talked about the big t.v. that was being followed in the ports in the. cavities of patients all of that if you look at the of the evidence points to a new kind of coronavirus doesn't bog. 'd you know i read the chinese original text that the one and send out to his colleagues in on t.v. use the saw in chinese faking as referring to that particular disease are at that as a phenomenon as solace that the cells may or may not be very material now all that we know this called the 19 is spreading throughout the world but in december 29th
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change is not a lot because what's happened in was as with now when i'm sad is a new species of virus it is not size per se for all confusing the truth should not be down on the spot i think that he really does the view when the should have alerted the government agency to really do a thorough. he led did into the real reporter in all that he tried and he was a firm on the phone call no not no small piece and we chatted messages to his colleagues urging the that there is solid breaking out if he was so nice when we don't even know it is not the size. he actually raised a red flag about a phenomenon for which he used to sobs and we know for sure now it is not saddam's ears i don't know how he don't that he didn't warn him well enough that there was something new that was happening in china. no i don't think that we have
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enough time to go into details fearing go into zeal for the less us and very very emphatically the point that some tell you when the stakes are rising to raise a red flag to lisa fry fall sobs rather that this will cease is all covert 19000 and the virus right there is a fine distinctions on the dissing the chin is very very impulsive and i think mankind even of today did not fully understand show nature of this virus we still need to be humble and learn a lot about the virus in order to save more people brought no one should take good for granted that china was 40 prepare to know everything about the holy 19 by or go back in december 1900 red running out of time but then do so much for joining us with the ovules thank you so much. the militia is
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already facing the brunt of an expanding cone of us outbreak but now there's a now that emergency floods heavy rainfall on its east coast has forced thousands to be evacuated and done roads into rivers. this boat is floating over road. it's the only way to get to the community of calm pong could see or even several days after the peak of the flood little more than the roots of some homes are visible the village became a swap after an estuary from the baja river overflowed during heavy storms romley been ahmad is more fortunate than many of his neighbors his home is on higher ground but even here the floodwaters rose to more than 2 metres high and as walls. his children and grandchildren have come to help with the clean up from power washing the hands scrubbing to do it's cleaning day in all the sludge and all the
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today is the day we get rid of them of all of it. the family managed to salvage some furniture with a small barge that they tied to a tree they say it's tough to see what happen to their parents' home but this tragedy has only made their family more united is a blessing in disguise i mean it when those a tragedy but it it brings people together and the sense of family court is always only so much always always that. strengthens us as siblings and what happened makes us close makes a stronger. many families from the village have been sleeping at a nearby mosque for those whose homes are beginning to dry out the days are spent cleaning up this is one of the worst natural disasters this community has seen in decades but people here tell me they do have major floods every 7 to 10 years so you might wonder why do they still want to live here in. this one village is like
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one family he says were close to each other and they are strong and there is a new people there already starting a bounce back in this village a community that stands together to weather the storms. that's affected areas of. a show with you that please. the fight against the corona virus pandemic. has the rate of infection in developing what does the latest research. information and context the coronavirus update. on t w. children to come to terms. one giant problem and move in on the scene now.
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larry foolish out. how will climate change affect us and our children. w dot com slash water. blood plasma is saving the lives of people with covert 19 but there isn't enough of it that's why scientists have been trying to recreate the antibodies it contains in the lab and they've done it. they've developed defensive proteins that can successfully fight off corona virus the us president was even treated with them. but these antibody drugs aren't in wide use even though they could make the difference between life and death. all sounds
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great we still don't have definitive data but trials are set to get underway like so much of this crisis it's learning by doing and it's thanks to some brilliant minds from the world of science. this blood plasma can stop a corona virus infection in its tracks the antibodies of recovered patients can be used to treat people with covered 19 it's already proven effective for patients including loot food dutchy one point was at the start i was very sick my wife sent me here in an ambulance i spent 2 days in the normal ward but then they decided to send me to intensive care and i was just drained and. yeah my. blue tooth condition became so severe that he was placed on a ventilator it was then that dr how burned his team gave him plasma from a recovered patient at the end had the patient receive the plasma after his
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risperidone condition and his lung function to terri aerated significantly within a day or 2 he stabilized and we were able to take away the breathing support. to get the plasma you need blood donors who have already survived covered 19 their blood has neutralizing antibodies that can render the corona virus harmless. the plasma is given to the patient through a transfusion then the antibodies within it get to work fighting the virus before the patient's immune system has produced enough defensive proteins of its own. the plasma clearly did the trick for lou true dutchy but the successes remain isolated cases and the general effectiveness has yet to be proven in studies however doctors say plasma therapy is helping the most severely ill patients. many
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doctors would like to use plasma more often ideally giving it to patients in the early stages of the disease when it's likely to work best but the problem is there isn't enough of it. to realize that everyone who recovers from corona virus has a different amount of antibodies in their blood only those with a high level can be suitable donors. but can the antibodies be produced without the need for a donor that's exactly what research is in braunschweig are working on. this to contains an entire gene library so a collection of genetic material can akhilesh and we have 10000000000 different genes that's the entire repertoire of what our body has available to produce antibodies. to be. in this gene library the scientists found an antibody that works perfectly against sasco 2 in lab tests it completely prevented
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the human cells from being attacked they were then able to reproduce the antibody based on its genetic blueprint and produce the 1st dose of that antibody drug. it has major advantages over the plasma therapy because it can be manufactured in large quantities and as a consistent quality with the right funding human trials of the teams drug could begin as soon as next month and the scientists work can begin to save lives. and let's talk to chef who featured in that report we just saw you holding up a chook to the camera what was in there. actually this very small vial it contains literally the complete immune reaction of mankind in respect of 20 bodies so more than 100 people from all over the globe donated blood and be extracted from their blood the blueprints to build antibodies against almost
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everything so more than 10000000000 different blueprints in form of genetic code for antibodies against different diseases are in this wild and my letter atory has now developed a technology to identify one specific antibody which binds to sascoc 2 for example or to other viruses so this antibody can then neutralize the virus and can be used as a duck to fight the disease and it's a molecule which is mate in our own body so it's not a chemical or not an artificial substance it's a molecule which is identical to the one which is in our body anyway if we get the infection can you briefly briefly let me in on a secret had how did you actually pinpoint that out of how many did you say 10000000000. how did you do that. it's a trick which i co-invented about 30 years ago together with some other people and
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it's a. trick where we managed to connect the blueprint though that genetic information to the function which is the proteins in front of nano particles so we have 10000000000 different not all particles which can be then selected by a simple. experiment. for the binding itself and when you have the binding of the protein it has the genetic information inspect back and be done but get it back and isolate their own and get the underbody so you've managed to produce antibodies otherwise only found in the blood plasma of coverts the virus are they just as good though. well that has to be of course has to be shown in the clinical studies but in principle our antibody is derived from the blood of patients and performed in the plot. story and performed in the
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experiments we did in the preclinical studies very very effective and you knew it neutralized the antibody in the lungs and it 100 percent protect it. against infection so it's very efficient in respect of protecting against to what about these clinical studies of anybody therapies that show severe side effects like the overreaction of the immune system how can you prevent that this is a very important point and we thought of that since the beginning of the design of our own t. of our antibody and we managed actually to address this problem by changing the signal it part of the n.t. body a little bit by a logical means so that we completely avoid the simulation of this overreaction so in the clinic we expect not to see any of these overreactions which are seen in
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the other antibodies and just tell me briefly do antibody treatments provide long term protection against the virus they provide immediate protection which is different from the back side but then they only last for about one to 3 months and have to be repeated but they can be given repeatedly 100 thank you very much interesting stuff and congratulations on your work. and take a look at some of the other corona related stories making news preliminary results from a study show recovering from covert protects against infection for at least 5 months public health england trying to 20000 health care workers and found a previous infection provided 83 percent immunity similar to a vaccine. the world health organization is looking at introducing covert 19 vaccination passports for travelers some countries are already trialing them critics call the passports discriminatory and w.h.o. scientists are now in the chinese city of han to investigate the origins of the
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pandemic the long delayed trip follows months of diplomatic wrangling beijing argues the virus may not have originated in the southwest as scientists suspect. but out to our science correspondent eric williams if you've got a question here's the e-mail feedback dot english at d w dot com type expert in the subject line or leave a comment on our you tube channel. if you get a 1st vaccine shot made by one developer what happens if your 2nd shot is from a different developer. as the pandemic reaches a really critical stage in many countries in one of them britain health authorities have changed some rules on how they're going to max and a. one of them was this that for the 2nd shot in a 2 shot regime in some rare and exceptional circumstances for example if the individual concerned as they ought to be immediate high risk vaccinators will be
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allowed to mix and match vaccines if they don't have any more of the product from the 1st shot so just to clarify there are 3 candidates currently approved for use in the u.k. from pfizer biotech from adana and from astra zeneca and they all require 2 shots of the same vaccine to work as well as trials demonstrated this decision means that if someone there gets the 1st shot say of the moderna vaccine when they come back for the 2nd one they could theoretically receive one made for example by astra zeneca if the authorities have run out of the madonna vaccine the thing is nobody yet knows exactly what kind of impact that could have because there have been no mix and match trials on each manufacturer of curie doubt their own trials involving only 2 doses of their own product so the question of how interchangeable they are
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is really wide open one american professor told the new york times that in his view the british authorities in the current emergency were trying to guess their way out of the mess the british guidelines however call the move reasonable since in different ways all 3 vaccines target the same area on the virus what's called the spike protein and experts in the u.k. think a 2nd dose of any other approved vaccine would be better than no so. that all going to be honest i don't know enough about vaccine science to make any confident predictions and opinions among those who do know enough are divided but i can say i think basing decisions like this on on the reasonable assumptions rather than on hard data is risky and a lot of experts agree. and putting your
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