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i'm british welcome to. join us a team of experts from the world health organization has arrived in china to investigate the audience of. the international team arrived in the city where the 1st cases of them were detected. the team spent around a month in the country including. it is not. blame for the spread of the virus. is victor garber he's from the center for china from the think tank close to the chinese communist party to go welcome good to have you back on the program. thank
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you for having me mr goh how committed is the chinese government to introducing the w.h.o. team are able to carry out their work for me i think china as a whole the chinese government and the chinese people are fully committed to working closely with the w h l team of scientists to study the lies what happened in. december 29th and what exactly is the origin of this fire is this is very important i think the chinese people want to know the truth mankind want to know the truth. speaking about knowing the truth the duggar is a team out there to determine as you correctly point out the origins of this virus but there have been lots of media reports particularly and also government people who've been saying in china that the virus did not originate here that have been suggestions that it originated in italy but it was imported through food packaging
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that it was imported through the united states of the u.s. army what would you say to that is that an attempt by china to muddy the waters. no i don't think so i think several things very very important and can be verified 1st of all in december 29th teen was discovered lots of people got sick and they did their scientific research and eventually they concluded it is cause to buy a new virus subsequently named as the culprit 19 virus and generally the 23rd 20192020 the whole city of will hot with a population of 12000000 people was completely lost now the fact that china discover this solders in will hardly be assembled kunti one team should not be.
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interpreted as if virus itself originated. why because subsequent plague will have heard a lot of scientific research some different countries including very recently in spain saying that they discovered this fire is as early as being november 29th so i think that probably h. all scientific investigation should study all these different pieces of information to make sure that they do get to the real all richey's all the hours. of its need to adopt a scientific method i'm certain from the need to point out to the doublets it's also said that all of these claims are highly speculative they're just courtois of the militarism urgency chief mike ryan had to say he said it's highly speculative for us to say that the disease did not emerge in china the doubler's who doesn't agree with you. no i don't think so i think scientific investigation should be
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done in a scientific way they should not artificially include or exclude any material pieces of information and these scientific investigations and the results were not found by china it was done by spanish scientists italian scientists generally scientists french scientists i think they all deserve the attention of the w.h.o. rather than being dismissed as if it is china about them in the water so i don't think china wants to model the wall that china wants to see the real truth the real all region of the virus you speak of the scientific evidence that to go but then i'm giving you the words of a scientific person a senior out of functionality of the double retro micron who's saying that whatever you're saying essentially is highly speculative so you talk about scientific proof on the one hand yet you does for god what the scientific person is saying. no i
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don't think so i think the remarks you quoted the just now were laid before the discovery of many subsequent scientific findings including the report i mentioned published in italy very least i think just within the past 30 days also and i think probably h.-o. as it's leading scientists should really being cruel to ever seeing in the material says in their scope of investigation for one and then for example jumping the gun and come to the conclusion that the origin of the virus was seen china says regarding all the material pieces of information probably proving the other was right you spoke about the discovery of viruses in one and you gave a timeline from december to the 23rd of january when one the epicenter was if a centrally placed in
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a locked on but let's look at december it is as early as the 1st of december but a scientific journal the lancet has been saying that symptoms were observed in blue han and after that you had chinese doctors such as dr lee one young who are warning apologies that something strange is happening here yet those warnings appear not to have been taken on board and you have more than a month nearly 2 months in fact from the 1st of december to litter in the 3rd of january when serious action begins to be taken did china miss these early warnings . well couple of things 1st of all let me talk about the us who is hailed as a national hero in china and he actually read raised the red flag but still will not. make scientist he was an icon he called the alon for solace as we know mao it's not such as it's cold it's
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19 i think that sometimes you were young had all the good things haitians but she actually raised a red flag for a number of critical epidemic a problem rather than call the 13th the hard drinking time so it's really really. all the credit i'm sort of been sort of so but it needs to be with you that he didn't just say saws he said saws coronavirus and before they were to leave and then there were other doctors who talked about the mysterious pneumonia like waters and going back to those to leave and you also talked about a big t.v. that was being found in the port in the. cavities all patients all of that if you look at the of the evidence points to a new kind of corona virus doesn't bog. you know i read the chinese original text that the one and send out to his colleagues in team used the saw in chinese haiti as referring to that particular disease all at that as a phenomenon as this knowledge that is itself may or may not be very material now
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all that we know this called the 19 is spreading throughout the world but in december 29th change is not a lot because what's happened in a while as with now when i'm sad is a new species of virus it is not solved because say for all confusing the truth should not be calm on the spot i think to leave earlier than 31 year should have alerted the government agency to read it to a smaller. he let the kid into the real estate in all the theories and he was a firm on the corner on no no no sulky said we chatted messages to his colleagues urging the that there is solid freaking out if he was so relieved when we don't even know it is not the size. he actually raised a red flag about a phenomena for reaching use the sobs as we know for sure now it is not
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solace to use i don't know how he don't that he didn't warn well enough that there was something new that was happening in china. no i don't think that we have enough time to go into details fearing go into zele well let us and very very emphatically the point that some tell you when the stakes are rising to raise a red flag to lisa fry fall sobs rather that this will cease is all covert 19000 and the virus right there is a fine distinction by the dissing shin is very very impulsive i think men kind even of today do not fully understand show nature of this virus we still need to be humble and learn a lot about the virus in order to save all people brought no was should take in the foreground to the child i was 40 prepare to know everything about the holy 19 by
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ergo i think december 1900 running out of time but thank you so much for joining us with the ovules thank you so much. the militia is already facing the brunt of an expanding coronavirus outbreak but now there's a now that emergency slides heavy rainfall on its east coast has forced thousands to be evacuated and done roads into revise. this boat is floating over road. it's the only way to get to the community of calm pong could see or even several days after the peak of the flood little more than the rousseau some homes are visible the village became a swap after an estuary from the baja river overflowed during heavy storms romley been ahmad is more fortunate than many of his neighbors his home is on higher ground but even here the floodwaters rose to more than 2 metres high and his walls . his children and grandchildren have come to help with the clean up from power
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washing to hand scrubbing to do its cleaning day in all the sludge and all the money today is that they will get rid of them of all of it. the family managed to salvage some furniture with a small barge that they tied to a tree they say it's tough to see what happen to their parents' home but this tragedy has only made their family more united is a blessing in disguise i mean it would though it's a tragedy but it it brings people together and the sense of family who is always only so much always always there. as siblings and what happened makes us closer makes a stronger. many families from the village have been sleeping at a nearby mosque for those whose homes are beginning to dry out the days are spent cleaning up this is one of the worst natural disasters this community has seen in
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decades but people here tell me they do have major flood every 7 to 10 years so you might wonder why do they still want to live here to do this one village is like one family he says we're close to each other and they are strong and there is a need people there are already starting a bounce back in this village a community that stands together to weather the storms. that surface it is a. perfect model it's you that. passive drama competition rival marketing numbers atmosphere by the time and technicians hate money. fan runs via spam and.
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because we. call on you to join us. every journey begins with the 1st step and every language with the 1st word published in the. rico is in germany to learn german why not with them simple online on your mobile and free. d w z e learning course nico speak german from a to z. . greetings from berlin and a warm welcome to arts and culture with historic elections in uganda as the backdrop we look at bobby wine the charismatic musician taking on the country's long time president also in the pipeline. kenyan off their evangelists. explores east africa's pre-colonial past and globalization present in her latest
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novel. oh he's a reggae star turned politician and in uganda 38 year old bobby wine has inspired the younger generations voters were turning out in droves on thursday to have their say in a historic election that saw him face off against president yoweri museveni who's been in power for 35 years or bobby wine started his career addressing social injustices in his songs and he manifests a long tradition of politics through music in africa. to spread the good vibes with his music the singer from uganda winner of an m.t.v. music award has been a pop star for more than 20 years. this we're excited political bobby wine tells it like it is giving a voice to the oppressed in his country. many
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people are good and i really want to use a. plate because. being but he realized singing wasn't enough to affect real change so 3 years ago bobby wine got into politics to try to change uganda from the ground up now he's running for president trying to topple ury most 71 has been in power for almost 35 years. is a different generation and he's a representative of. i'm a representative of the future ready. the 38 year old musician is popular with the younger generation which makes up the majority of the country almost 80 percent of uganda's population is under 30 bobby wine wants them to fight for their own political freedom. comes to those who fight not to those who cry because the more
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you cry is the more your people continue to die so rise and defend your right. bobby one's political message packaged in a 4 minute pop song has been on heavy rotation in uganda for 3 years now the song against fear against corruption against oppression by the state. they won when. i was going the people of uganda and. people. to go out and vote. with over 80 percent because they've been in every part of uganda and it's creates evident that the people of uganda. for change. but president most 70 is fighting back government forces have been breaking up campaign rallies often beating up protestors or opposition candidates. whine has
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been arrested tortured and charged with high treason. was. i did not get in the struggle to name then a number of times i've been arrested i mean the struggle to anybody to gondor and before that is accomplished i don't care how many times on my wrist it had beaten gustafer 1st grade. i'm keeping my eyes on the prize. for you for now bobby winds fame and popularity for his protection. to charismatic bobby wind there challenging the 70 in today's election in uganda and scott roxboro has joined me to talk about this tradition of politics through music in africa scott there was a lot of focus in that report on bobby one the politician tell us a little bit more about him as a musician and how he expresses politics that way yeah i mean bob was
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a fascinating figure i mean as an artist because there's really no gap between his pop and his his his politics i mean he expresses his policies directly through music often writing songs that are direct political messages i mean last year late early last year when the penned them of the quantifiers pandemic at like any politician bobby wine gave a sort of public safety message constituency but he did a different way he actually wrote a song about the safety surrounding the coronavirus and put everything to music ok let's see if we can just have a listen to that line on the coronavirus. for starters. and thank god for. everybody out there. oh yeah. yeah yeah so i did this is this is health health messages health also you
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can dance to i'm going to be great if every politician did that i mean the anglo american like rap out her health messages. that i go into what an intelligent way to get a very sensible message across that probably one isn't the 1st african musician to actually turn to politics to tell us about a few of the other examples i mean there is a real long tradition across africa really of political activism through music and a number of very popular musicians have done the bobby wine thing and tried to run for office i mean intensity and you have professor j. he's one of the attention music biggest star hip hop stars and he's always sort of wrapped against the political corruption against injustice and took 2015 and decided to run for parliament and he won he's now a sitting member of the. parliament and you have this a cross across africa i mean instead of using daw you probably know one of the most
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famous singers in africa and definitely in senegal i'm also a strong political activist he was sort of blocked from be able to run for president himself but he supported the opposition and when the opposition can do was elected president he was made a minister who's made the minister of culture and tourism for something also you see that across africa you have these musicians using the power of their music and their and their fame to get across the real place message to take a direct stake in incredible and you know just quickly it's it's very dangerous obviously for them to be taking a stance like this in so many of these countries the winds really had. trouble with a lot of arrests arrests and beatings and of course it can get even more serious and you saw what happened in ethiopia just just last year the musician who did d.c. who was who was murdered who was killed and his his his killing really sparked an uprising against the authoritarian government in ethiopia so you can see these
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musicians they're not just expressing a political opinion they're taking real personal rest in trying to get their message across but to great effect and we're crossing our fingers obviously for bobby why know that he can affect change there thanks very much scott. well staying in africa kenyan writer yvonne war is one of her country's most eloquent voices her 2014 novel dust was highly acclaimed and her most recent book the dragon-fly see is both a coming of age story and a lyrical reflection on cultural diffusion and in it she probes the historic links between africa and asia to counter those typical western perspectives of africa's way forward. nairobi. it's home to yvonne idea. of world renowned intellectual voice of her country kenya is on the move with strong support from china which is financing bridges railroads and ports here as part of the new silk road
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a controversial project for sun. i understand that and guess that certain people are extremely worried more worried than we are about china's return to the african continent and i think we like to see that the sky's about to fall of africa's head . that's really i think the space represents the new york and the african continent 'd certainly to kind of defying what it is and where it if they want to be in the world and with who. they are there is on the way to part of an island off kenya's coast 500 kilometers from nairobi. party is the fixed point from which the narrative thread of her novel develops over the world globalization does not appear once in it $600.00 pages that is what the story is about the dragon-fly see the title of the novel is the author's name for this body of water the europeans called it the indian ocean one
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of many western imposed ideas the author breaks with. a lot of the west the thought we were so they had their mind their fantasy about africa was about our poverty our lack. and they're also obsessed with our diseases and their greatest vision for us was maybe musky tonight's china comes in and says the vision they have. with us is about roads and bridges and ports. i think it was about the scale of vision and quite frankly you know we will go for the attractive and we'll go for the attractive offer. into the heart as part of along the way we encounter the shango archaeological site where remnants were found of a mosque that some believe was built during mohammed's lifetime. ruins from the 15th century are better preserved there from a time when a lively exchange with china has said to have existed. but even in kenya these
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ruins 1st excavated by british archaeologists are largely unknown. this is a treasure this is not just a canyon treasure it's a world treasure it's an african treasure this site it means that others come into spaces like this and the right to their histories on top of it and then we've got a generation growing up thinking that they have no roots no roots in all history you have people confused thinking that their history only begins when the europeans arrived for example. and that's tragic that's part of the tragedy of africa and the tragedy of the state this column dates from the 15th century. first indicators that you have entered an unusual site is this. a probably a tombstone there would have been ceramics from china embedded here this is
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over 600 year old. the character i on a novel sets out from potter to china unwittingly retracing the. past taken by her ancestors. exports where are you i know would be hiding you know the opening chapter of the. novel is also a chronicle of self empowerment written in a in can definitely poetic language. under a dark purplish. on the mangrove. coast. i know. i'm not like conspired with the shimmering. traders.
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the big love and respect. the big . this is the w. news live from berlin. health organization calls an emergency meeting to tackle new variants of the corona virus as if scientists arrive in china to investigate the potential origin of the country and its feared the latest mutations transmitted more easily than the original strain also coming up uganda's long time.

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