the very sort of gathering that occurred on we could clearly devote the rest of the show and many others to the role of social media but let me take us on to the newly inaugurated impeachment proceedings the 2nd impeachment proceedings against donald trump mitch mcconnell. who is still the senate majority leader that will change after next week but he says that. he also thinks impeachment actually might be a way to separate the republic can party essentially from donald trump as a harmful influence going forward do you think that's right. i think it's potentially right just because of the technicalities of it it at least opens a path towards donald trump being barred from running for federal office i think there are some constitutional questions that will probably have to get resolved if that conviction does occur in the senate that may lead more senators to be willing to convict than was the case a year ago in the previous impeachment but i think you especially given the limited

showing of republicans that we saw yesterday only 10 in the house vote for impeachment it's not at all a foregone conclusion that there will be enough senator republican senators who are willing to convict this president he remains largely popular even after the events of january 6th and a lot of his voters i think are very likely to turn on politicians in the republican party who vote to convict him and especially if it involves barring him from that office in the future and let's drill a little bit deeper on that. for anybody who did watch that congressional debate yesterday it was striking how many republicans continue to justify donald trump's unconstitutional actions by essentially pointing at the finke the finger at the democrats and listing all the alleged wrongs they had committed why do so many stick by this man i think jamie made exactly the point the right point and we are

already approaching b'nai election the midterm elections and the experience of the last 4 years told us and every republican who is distancing him or herself from the from donald trump becomes the target of some kind of political revenge inside the republicans and him into the about the president so even with. even with donald trump about to lose paul in the foreseeable future i think he remains a pivotal player in the political scene and everybody at least in the in the republican party maybe not everybody but a lot of. people in the political puppet simply afraid of him and that explains that maybe silent the if they would vote differently or would have folded different to us today but they can express publicly on the other hand soraya in america politicians need not only voters but also donors lots of money and we are seeing increasingly important business interests distancing themselves from donald trump

including the banks that have loaned him money over many many years what impact could that have on the republican party and trump isn't going forward i think that would have the most impact out of everything that we've talked about but you have to look at the language that these businesses are stating when they say that they're pulling back it's temporary i mean there are very few have said we're absolutely going to donate to him we're absolutely going to donate to republicans even like the amounts for example that were given to holly in a 1000 here 1000 there it's not there's a question about whether this is something that's really that they plan to sustain it or but it but it definitely has gotten the republican attention having said all that i think in the end 74000000 voters you know it was 74200000 voters voted for donald trump you cannot discount this i mean he received even though the g.o.p. has lost the 77 out of the last 8 you know popular vote when you look at election 7 out of 8 of them doesn't matter i mean this is

a large number of people and they are they even after what happened on january 6th most of them still remain loyal to donald trump and the people who you see leaving the g.o.p. or you know they're all people who are more moderate who are basically traditional g.o.p. is what's going away there are not i mean i haven't heard or read about really anybody who is a mag a person who has you know i don't know felt what happened on the 6 was so bad that they should abandon donald trump jimmy could the republican party win the popular majority if it alienates a large segment of the trump voters. i think honestly because of the demographic changes underway in the us it's highly unlikely the republican party will be able to win the popular vote in a presidential election anytime soon their hope is the electoral college and i think many feared that donald trump was actually compromising that potentially in recent months given his legal campaign related to the state legislatures and issues

like that so obviously that's the conundrum there in 74200000 votes was an incredible success for donald trump compared to the expectations he actually increased minority support of republicans which no one expected and so the talk after november was about the republican party big becoming a multi racial working class party taking the working class away from the democratic party that is probably more difficult now after january 6th in a very white mob essentially that seem to have a racial agenda in many cases well and donald trump repeatedly playing the race card yes but again he drew more african-american men to the republican party and that election has batiks and so some of the more moderate figures in the party my old boss marco rubio governor nikki haley i think their hope was then to take what donald trump did to bring more working class voters and you have soften the edges i think that becomes again much more difficult given what we've seen over the last

week but that was their hope and watch to see whether donald trump is able to be an organized political force in republican politics once he leaves office surprise super quick question because i do want to take a look over all this means for biden and harris but let's say that trump going forward did split away from the republican party and found his own independent movement and that somehow he got enough money to us and create the media empire that our report mentioned would such a movement be able to win again a majority popular election in the united states historically at all it doesn't seem to be the case i mean look at ross perot he didn't go very far with it either . i have a hard time imagining that he will be successful in doing that and i think creating this media empire that he wants to create a school require money that he certainly have right now so i'm cautiously optimistic that he won't do that that he will try to stick with the republicans and that this is going to cause great issues for the party i don't think it's going to

come together soon so beyond the political polarization that we've been discussing the incoming democratic team faces a pandemic that continues to rage across much of america and is exacting a painful human and economic toll are joe biden and coming up to the challenges that they face. joe biden and kamel harris this will steer the fate of the u.s. for the next 4 years the stage is set for the incoming u.s. president. and. after also winning the runoff in georgia democrats have a razor thin majority in the house of representatives and the senate for the 1st time in a very long time. u.s. vice president camila harris will be the deciding vote that will also allow democrats to push their agenda through the legislature in the future giving them some much needed breathing room for example when appointing supreme court judges in

the future. or on new spending proposals for a coronavirus for the environment. and socio economic policies all proposals that republicans are likely to block there may be only a short window of opportunity to pass important legislation the midterm elections are coming up next year by then the razor thin democratic majority could be gone how much of the democratic agenda can biden harris really get passed. so let me ask all 3 of you joe biden has repeatedly promised to be the president of all americans to. heal the divisions marcus you said in your opening statement he must find ways to appeal to the trump voters how what are the 1st things he needs to do one to 3 in his 1st 100 days i think the 1st 1st task is pretty obvious cope with the consequences of the crisis. i would recommend something not to do to

reverse the takes reform of the. troubled ministration because that brought so many people into into labor in particularly the low income low and low income. and given the public opinion polls of every day before the baby draws it becomes obvious that the economic success of the trumpet and the situation was crucial for his in curing and and for the success of john been a distraction and he would be very cautious simply to reverse what has been accomplished over the last year jimmy fry what would you say what are the absolute top priorities for the incoming administration if they're serious about healing division i think the big i really think it's one and for me coming from a republican perspective is to avoid the progressive impulse i mean nancy pelosi has the smallest house majority i think since after the 2nd world war

a 5050 senate despite the fact that they have the vice president can break ties is not really control of the senate when the way unless you remove the filibuster which would be incredibly damaging i think the ability of the country to move forward and i think joe biden understands that given has you know the general approach to politics but he's going to be getting prodded by the left of his party and he's going to need to realize he's president for 4 years and he can ignore those calls for now while he tries to bring the country together. well if he's really desperate i mean if things aren't getting better then pardon trump i mean take that take that wind away you know not make that man look like a martyr i mean that's something that he may have to actually consider. i can't believe i'm saying that a day after he's been impeded by you know but i also think you can make policy that biden has promised to really give the middle class relief to bolster good jobs good wages and so on will that reach the disinfectant trump voters well he has to make sure it does i mean he has to win back that workers' party because as jamie mentioned the republicans have become in our the g.o.p.

has become the workers' party which which is not traditionally what has been the case thank you very much to all of you for being with us today and thanks to you out there for tuning in see you soon. have a. modicum of a. clue

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