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rich. but in europe there's a sharp warning whoever accept money from the new superpower will become dependent on a 2nd is rather shaky the chinese state has a lot of money it's disposal. and that's how it's expanding and asserting its status and position in the world the physical. china's gateway to euro starts feb 19th on w. . this. coming up today the field and mistrust. of us fight. historical distrust of facts. and drive we look at what's being done to counter it plus. an historic win defeated indian cricket team beat australia off a training run to clinch test series.
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welcome to. glad you could join us with going over this case is on the rise pakistan has just approved. over $1000.00 vaccine for emergency use the approval comes just days after the thought of these green lighted the oxford astra zeneca vaccine but pakistan is also hosting moss trials for another chinese made over 19 vaccine can sign nobody will the testing requires thousands of volunteers but they're tough to find in a country that anti vax sentiment runs deep and past vaccination campaigns have even turned. vaccination teams going door to door in pakistan they are part of an immunization drive against polio but these health
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workers also need protection over the past decade more than 100 vaccinators have been killed in targeted attacks fueled by conspiracy theories and misinformation hostile anti facts as a republic health threat in pakistan in need of an antidote especially as the country prepares for mass immunizations against covert 19 phase 3 trials are underway here for chinese vaccine developer can see no boy logics but researchers are still in countering mistrust and fia with this kind of. misconceptions in fact anything you're due for the 1st time you have come across people who have this fear factor part of the problem. fundamentalists people who are trying. superstitions and this. vaccine might. it is. and then maybe that's the reason why i'm still struggling with that scene when it comes
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to the coronavirus pakistani authorities are also struggling to communicate the dangers and the urgent need to stamp it out in a recent poll more than a 3rd of pakistanis said they refuse any covert vaccine that became available for more let's bring in charm and charm from asia to vaccines approved for emergency use but how does the government plan to convince people to take them. well i think the government has not been doing much to kind of incentive you want sort of all we know that do work scenes have been approved by the government but we do not know how is the government going to do direct snape. lish so unlike india where we see the state mission prior is happening at the moment we
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don't see anything in we don't even know when the vaccines will be or where it was in the market is it going to be a private sector group is it going to be a state or dr we are clueless at the scene i'm so many people are reluctant to get vaccinated. they don't believe that growing up my mistakes is serious we see that there is. skepticism in box start so it will be very hard for the government to convince people to get vaccinated we don't see a must drive happening but it does have not been done and the law and so it's always a chaotic and we see that the government does not apply you spoke of skepticism in general when it comes to the question of vaccines and vaccination. arkansas don't want to meet in the things of the order of vaccination drive in the troubles that it has faced in pakistan in the past then explain for us from in why that is such
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a general distrust of vaccines in pakistan. oh we have to understand that stymies as a nation they love conspiracy theories that it is happening it happens and some do share box on its low profile and. most people believe that it is best in the conspiracy. they also believe that bill gates is trying to. get some chips and their bodies to go right back seeing you see that the clergy that islam clerics are against it they have been summoned izing against their backs the vaccines as it is our alarm issue many people believe that it is not a lot it is thought in by ship of what happened as we see them you see increasing
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and asked all the dimes on board you are girders because there is a skepticism that best an agent has gone to pakistan and they are trying to use effects edition crisis to start their did edge and what happened we must not forget that brenda's are not in this all are all gotten leaderless assassinated by those groups and do it ours and 11 there was a point where it's a nation right where should he offer him he was a gas or didn't box was. allegedly involved. as a as a spy for the cia so a lot of many people who understand believe that the best countries are behind these campaigns to. destroy their action or do. not and most of all sorts of conspiracy theories and boxed up right miranshah don't know about us cases continue to rise in pakistan how is the government coping.
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i'm not going to get all of the race because i as i said earlier be don't see any problem by the government we don't have the vaccines at the moment and we don't know when i'm on the going to come to boxed on that is no social distancing there's no government really do. social distance there's no law down there because this is all in the shops only people are made a readies are taking place so nothing out what has been seen by the government in that direction someone shouts from thank you very much. and it's to cricket now where india has produced a stunning test series win in australia they pulled off a record run chase the brits been to see lisey's $21.00 india's triumph follows
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a rollercoaster few weeks where they were without many of their top names for much of the series in the 1st test itself they were bowled out for just $36.00 their lowest ever total in test cricket. and that with has twitter going crazy for my india batsman such a comment in a photo as the god of cricket in india at least said a court if you ever score 36 or less in life remember it isn't the end of the wild he could have been talking about my test scores the school of australian make spinning great shane warne applauded the team for showing quote tremendous character resilience courage and belief and indian prime minister narendra modi to congratulated the team for its court remarkable grit and determination. mark meadows from the double sports join me to tell me more about this incredible india where members of the words right mark welcome so for those who are not
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familiar with test cricket what's the fuss about well yep people might know one day cricket while the big hits in the resident as test cricket tends to last 5 days and you might wonder how can you have drummer in a sport the last 5 days of course a test series is simple test matches so it can take weeks sometimes months and yet this test series has been absolutely incredible so many twists and turns and it's going right down to the wire in the very last match and you know pundits fans alike i think this is one of the best series of test cricket ever played and it really is phenomenal just how amazing was this victory i mean let's go back to the 1st test as we saw they lost very heavily they scored 36 their lowest ever test score. and that was with their captain the side virat kohli one of the best players in the world he then goes back to india for the birth of his child and interesting hang on we've got 3 more tests to play here in our talisman isn't here yet to go on when the 2nd test they put up a fantastic effort in the 3rd test
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a draw and then they go on with the 4th test at the gabba in brisbane sort of the spiritual home of a straight in cricket really and i mean should man bill 91 bishop and 89 the run chase 329 that he's a record run chase in brisbane just absolutely amazing their best to spin bowlers who are missing in this game no one gave them a chance and they've gone and done it it really is that good that baby is a good or for this really but there can be no sirree with this fantastic room and then this test series the government award a series now this is almost equal in importance if not more than the ashes series against england yes i mean against england has been the benchmark for so many years but we've seen several series now between india and australia where the games have been incredibly close yes there's been some sledging there's been a bit of needle that's kind of added to it what was nice is a few fans were allowed into the stadium in brisbane quite a few indian fans actually so amid all the coronavirus chaos that was really nice
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and maybe extra special i mean just to put it in perspective this is the 1st test defeat by a stay at the gabba in brisbane since 198840. what about you don't ever want to tie what effect did this have on the world those japanese are not well known only to test cricket last 5 days there's a world test championship has been going on for 3 years the final is going to be in june in london coronavirus permitting and now india are top of the table so they're looking good for that final we'll see how it pans out corrector and mark thanks so much for coming in. from one extraordinary feat to another this week 10 nepalese mountain is made history by becoming the 1st team to climb to the top of k 2 and back in the wintertime get to the 2nd highest peak in the wild after mt everest and if the last mountain above 8000 meters to be conquered in the punishing winter months when wind speeds can exceed 200 kilometers an hour and temperatures can drop
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to minus 60 degrees celsius and one of the expedition members a sonar sherpa filled himself high above their malas just metres from the k 2 summits. but that's few it's worth climbing in the winter time to get to the top of that's it for today there's more on our website the double dot com folds flesh is show believe you now with more images from we'll be back tomorrow. by.
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the fate of the corona virus pandemic. has the rate of infection been developing what does the latest research say. information and contacts the coronavirus update . on t.w. . hauser virus spread.
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and will. introduce through the. weekly. is called spectrum if you would like and information on the crown of virus or any other science topic you should really check out our podcast wherever you are. cats can also finance and. science. the world spent 2020 on defense. trying to play catch up against a fast moving pathogen with simple tactics like mosques or social distancing. but in the medical field innovation became the name of the game scientists develop
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vaccines at breakneck speed putting governments on offense they're inoculating whole populations to outsmart these prickly little competitor and looking at other ways to innovate our way out of a crisis. a survey by the consultancy mckinsey shows 90 percent of executives from all fields expect kovar to change the way they do business but it's an opportunity few feel equipped to pursue the study also shows commitment to innovate fell last year except in the pharma and medical sector. is this simple lightbulb a weapon against the coronavirus. rosario valis think together with other researchers the dr invented this l.e.d. lamp its light has certain frequency characteristics which could destroy the coronavirus. this light bulb is similar to an ordinary one you screw it in switch it on and it works. in the light and then destroys all
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microorganisms by destroying their structure that is the outer membrane and in the case of the corona virus probably also the protein spike the stain. used by. this is already worked with bacteria and a series of experiments carried out by the researchers together with the a chalion military have now also shown that the special l.e.d. light destroys the corona virus and it's not harmful to humans either. now we have to fine tune the whole experiment in some way because we must not forget that up to now we have done the whole thing and laboratory conditions which are different from the normal environment. the coronavirus pandemic in italy has also inspired other inventions for instance when ventilators became scarce and hospitals and doctors sounded the alarm these young
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researchers quickly developed a valve model and their start up company the valve can be produced with a 3 d. printer and attached to a standard commercial sports snorkeling mask. the next day we took this to the hospital they tested the ventilator for half an hour then a doctor came and said they work we need $100.00 of them within the next 24 hours. and that means even. another new invention is this anti covert carpet it reduces the amount of bacteria and viruses carried into rooms from outside step on at once and your shoes are disinfected the carpet automatically releases disinfected when it senses weight. the inventors of the empty coronavirus lamp hope they too consumed implement their disinfectant and hospitals and schools. and let's talk to get. from the swiss science and technology institute. a lot of the know how behind these sorts of inventions was around before the pandemic why weren't they already
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in existence i mean they would have made our lives so much better and could have stopped more than just the corona virus also the common flu and many other things that's true and that's a very good point you say that miss it is the model or if inventions are now reaction see the needs for these new technologies. and decide there is no. barriers we need to buy these credits which did not exist before and certainly not to the same extent so we actually reduce young person. because of the needs and markets. and then we seem to be outdoing else selves on other levels when it comes to vaccines say developed in record time in order the just one we've got more than one. true. and we might be worried that we are wasting money on the $1.00 hand we are putting lots of resources and research there has been more than $200.00. and so as much as you
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know we praise the winners and we might even complain that the media making money we should not forget that a lot so actually losers and very long. more lives and just wasted money. using a lot of wasted competition in other words we could be working on other fronts not just vaccines but also treatments and cures. yes and more than that so of course we're putting a lot of money and brains in short comic related issues but we should not forget that the earth if other problems that we need to tackle and so we've been diverted a lot of research our way from from all of these other questions so as much as research is accelerating we might be worried that there is a slowing of research in these other. she's a science back to innovation what about the sharing of the knowledge of something
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like a vaccine as some of these companies are holding on to their pay and some of that truth lots of knowledge has been shared scientists do talk to each other and we know a lot and you know we collect information from from parties from countries institutions no less the fact that firms wants to keep their ip rights for really as business as usual and i know that some some some some people in some countries complain about you know the strong enforcement for effects of research to be good but we should not forget that firms private firms emergency to card use those as boston on. government can actually save the patents parties ask for compulsory licensing and start producing the facts and themselves so based on that what would you say the role is that money does play in innovation in this case is that profits that's driving innovation these big divisional profi is simply
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driving. innovation. but nevertheless many many many people in the pharmacist getting just 3 are not just markets and mine when you know these are people working on you know. people to really care about getting out of the crisis and that's who are mississippi is the mother of invention that is you know very poor as well of course isn't it also in times of crisis and when there's a lack of funds that we become more innovative that is very much true and we have seen so crisis you know cost you know that i do the early days of the underneath respiratory device and we're seeing very very creative solutions and also history suggests companies that invest in innovation through a crisis outperform in the recovery. is that what we're going to see in this case do you think most likely. a crisis is the group that is
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a great soundtrack to invest in innovation but it's very short forms and felt you know he can afford to do so and we should not forget that research has been i mean you know issues research and innovation not uncovered but in general it has been slow going people have to stay at homes that might not have access to collapse so it's extremely challenging to maintain a high get if your vision very company in particular and the big question will we innovate enough to prevent the next pandemic. we don't be able to prevent the next and then but we can certainly mitigate effects and the only way we can do so is by keeping investing in a strong science to say to you we need a strong science augustus and we need to fund universities but not on the rest and need to have. an appropriate me gratian so think of that of the developers the pfizer bio in take. one of of of the yeah it's actually
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a turkish migrant right and so we need to work on a strong science a system that goes as far as immigration policies an indication ponces and it's on me with you know a high performing knowledge states that will be able to meet to get us out of the mexican didn't get us from the p f l thank you very much for being on the show today. thank you and his our science correspondent eric williams with your questions on the coronavirus. what lessons are we learning from covered 19 that might help us deal with the next pandemic this excellent question has way more answers than i can go into here but some lessons are obviously more importance than others at the top of the list i'd say is what we've learned about rapid response a sars cove to completely outran our ability to get on top of it early because it could spread faster than we could react i don't want to go into why or
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who supposedly did what wrong early on because because i think it makes no sense to play the blame game but it does make sense to look at how we can speed up international response to spill over events like the one that started this pandemic because if you can be certain of one thing it's that they're going to happen again in the future and that means in my opinion giving the w.h.o. or a successor organization the money and real backing it will need to recognize threats the clay or emergencies and react faster and more independently of the nations that make it up a 2nd important lesson that people have learned from this pandemic i hope is that human health doesn't exist in a vacuum that it's closely tied to the health of the environment we actually all
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know that already things like error and water pollution kill millions of us every year and and the repeated emergence of new diseases is directly tied to the fact that we know really can and do go to pretty much. every corner of the planet while destroying the habitats that act as buffer zones between us and pathogens that can jump the species barrier when that happens but science can help but it can't provide instant fixes and where science can really help most i think is not in the accelerated development of vaccines although believe me that's been really amazing to follow but instead through its potential to help us reach the longer term goals of greener more sustainable society it's ones that recognize how dependent our own
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health says on the environment around us. on they forget fine dining in the pandemic but that's not stopping stock shifts from outperforming themselves example receiving his. this week his boss a restaurant am has been setting up creations from a food truck all for takeaway says through cooking you can touch people something generally off balance in this crisis. it's for watching stay safe and see you again so it.
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is do we lose life in berlin the drug bridges are growing up again tougher restrictions look to be on the way for germany amid an already tight lockdown chance i go america brings forward talks with state leaders over what can be done to keep the country one step ahead of ever faster spreading covert $1000.00 variants also on the program with riots and a pandemic to contend with on the home front the world's eyes are on the usa to see
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what follows 4 years of trump's america 1st this hour we'll take a closer look at just what joe biden is walking into plus a harsh winter conditions have raised the specter of lethal heating meshed methods and hypothermia in a spanish shanty town we were poor and how madrid authorities are feeling thousands of people who say they've been forgotten. on landmark thank you so much for your company this hour but we start here in germany where chest anglo-american and state leaders have brought forward a meeting to discuss extending coronavirus restrictions in a bid to keep ahead of new or transmissible variants of the virus so here is now
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a graph that illustrates how germany's incidence rates are has developed over the past 10 days that you see here right behind me. it's an important indicator that reflects new infections per 100000 people and as you can see right here there is a downward trend from 154 back on january 9th to 132 of january 9th 13 well there is still a long way to go for that number to drop below 50 which is when the spread of the virus would be considered under control or germany's current measures are due to expire at the end of the month but now an extension and even tighter measures could be on the way. people in germany are preparing for tightened coronavirus restrictions here a 4 likely outcomes from tuesday's political discussions in berlin one that the existing measures will be extended until mid february that means large parts of
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public life will remain closed like schools and daycare centers and also shops museums theaters and dining restaurants. to an obligation to where medical musk's the federal government wants these to be compulsory on public transport and in shops as is the case in bavaria with f f p 2 mosques these off of better protection than regular cloth masks but they're more expensive so the new rules would probably also allow for cheaper surgical masks 3 more working from home the government wants to impose stricter rules to stop office workers from commuting as much pushing their employers to let them work from home. for possible nighttime curfew they're already in place in some regions along with strict of border controls but it's unclear whether they would be imposed nationwide. and there we can talk now to one of the
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chancellor's chief scientific advisors ralph plyler is a veralyn just he also has the european bioinformatics institute in cambridge ship england from which he joins us a very warm welcome sir the current lockdown isn't having the desired effect are more stringent extensive lockdowns the answer and are they sustainable well 1st i know the borrowed banks magician but that doesn't matter to the doctor is working but we don't know where we belong is working on but no new variant b 117 which created a lot of problems already in the u.k. is creating a lot of problems and i don't know what's important spain so we may have an epidemic inside and pandemic and that is this group. is new berry and so while the other variants driven down as it happened in the november docked on in the u.i.a.
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business maybe again. we have a rise of this variant and in a very explosive way it will start rising quickly again so events why it's necessary to carry on with lockdown and potentially also add some additional measures and i personally believe it's necessary to add some measures what would those measures be what would you advise the chancellor. well i think 1st it will be a race between. sins as many people as possible and. so it's not locked on measures which are important but also. to not vex nation as quickly as possible and proper banes of variance blocked all measures i think the easiest and cheapest win for germany
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would be to introduce much more widespread home office use that is. a relatively. calm list intervention which is not very costly for employers and employees and is not restricting very much good but in terms of people measures you mentioned before which obvious cause and i think there are other people who are much more knowledgeable about it can judge which ones are suitable for driving down mobility and therefore interrupting potential infection changed now you brought up the vaccines of course that we had all planned our hopes on the vaccine at rollout it was supposed to be our way out of this pandemic but the rollout here in this country of vaccines is taking a lot longer than was hoped can this program be accelerated. so negative as you would address it i think the we have. to vaccine was
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vaccines were developed in an incredibly quick and short time it's marvelous success story and of cause and you need to produce it you need to deliver it you need to clients. things can always go better but i believe overall it's going very well. and with new vaccines coming onto the markets more vaccinations can be done i think it's it could be a bit better but not much better so i think we just need to get through it vaccinate as quickly as possible as many people as possible and then in the end we as a society will win this race oh well there are there is a debate going on because there has been a supply delay because the e.u. commission who is coordinating the vaccine rollout in europe did not order enough vaccines but let's move on to the approach that this country has embarked on it is
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primarily vaccinating the elderly and frontline workers not the general population do you think that is a mistake. movies was a good choice for saving lives because if you vaccinate the older population we are the ones which i thought the highest different rates among infected and so best protein they are not the patients under these these are elderly people most of which. a lot of people actually think cause they usually don't read so much in the community and have so many contacts but they are most vulnerable and i think it's good right this is an open society to protect the most vulnerable. feiler scientific advisor to the german chancellor thank you sir for joining us. by phone i accept we're going to turn our attention to the united states because as
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joe biden becomes us president the world is watching to see what kind of a country he will lead back on to the world stage well 4 years of trump's america 1st turned the idea of u.s. leadership on its head as replacements 1st task will be to rebuild and reshape some crucial relationships. chaos in washington a pandemic out of control. an economy on the brink. not your nation profoundly divided ruled that you likely would not run the us has enough crises going on at home to take up the energy of any new president but the rest of the world looks every bit as daunting. as china is now a rival superpower. russia is openly hostile and climate change threatens everything. unveiling his foreign policy team joe biden said he would tackle all these challenges by rejecting trump's slogan of america
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1st and reviving american leadership at the head of the western alliance america's back ready to lead the world not retreat from it once again sit at the head of the table ready to confront our adversaries and not reject our allies this new spirit from biden is being warmly welcomed here in berlin and in other capitals around europe and yes on this crucial issue of china the europeans have started doing their own thing. the e.u. has just agreed a sweeping investment treaty with beijing ignoring requests from the biden team to wait and work together i'm glad merkel herself was the driver of the deal which will be a money maker for german companies. it's not a great omen for biden's plan to hold a summit of democracies he wants free societies to line up together to challenge china seeing it as
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a growing threat to mock received everywhere he'll want europe fully on board european leaders too often condemning china over human rights abuses but that rarely turns into action and many a wary of being sucked into a long term conflict between the u.s. and beijing with any european hey this could expose the underlying tensions in the transatlantic relationship which burst into the open under donald trump if europeans believe that they can remain neutral in a growing rivalry between the united states and china and sort of have equally good relations with beijing and washington and at the same time expect the united states to be the 1st responder whenever anything happens in europe i think they're living in a dream world that that's not going to be possible this was the heart of the crisis between the u.s. and europe during the trump years school and european allies as freeloaders and
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that has shaken trust perhaps even permanently because one day trump or someone like him could be back now if europeans look at the transatlantic alliance that is a strong agree of course and that world and who are good. and europeans need to build up their own research and their own strategies to be able to act in a more indeed and the death throes of the trumpet ministration have added to fears that the u.s. has become fundamentally stable a power that allies can never again depend on in quite the same way. ultimately that means that biden success or failure at home will profoundly affect what he can achieve abroad he says america's back. but the rest of the world is asking is it too broken to leave. richard rocker our chief international editor reporting there he's with me here in this studio for more so richard is america too broken to lead
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the world well of course the great strengths of democratic societies compared to say or thora tarion systems is that they can change that you can have a competition of ideas you can have a transition of power and you have regular opportunities to recover from crises and that is certainly the framework in which biden is presenting his administration both domestically and internationally kind of saying that this is administration of recovery and consolidation for the united states but on that he faces at least 2 quite serious problems one domestic one international 1st of all domestically democratic norms and practices have been severely undermined and stressed in the last few years now of course we've seen that reach a peak now a crescendo with donald trump denying the simple fact that he has lost the election you know they're showing that there's a kind of unraveling in the belief in
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a accepted facts and sorting them apart from fiction and that has the potential to really undermine democratic processes going forward as well and then secondly internationally the matter how biden positions himself there will always be this nagging thought in the back of countries minds whether they're friendly towards the u.s. or unfriendly internationally is that somebody like donald trump if not trump himself could be back you know this really undermines the u.s. position so joe biden will have to show really extraordinary leadership domestically and internationally to overcome both of those issues are i mean that is a lot of doom and gloom read stephanie got is their work cut out for him what can we look forward to the positives from a biden. ministration yeah well from a use of european democratic perspective certainly you know there's a lot to like in the new administration firstly simply you know coming out being friendly talking about multilateralism countries working together as an approach to
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solving problems and of the reverse of america 1st that of course is seen as very welcome also biden stated intention to rejoin the paris climate agreement to tackle climate change also to return to the multilateral approach to dealing with the problem of iran's nuclear weapons programs both of these things as things that are seen as very welcome here in europe let's talk now about china because that of course is featuring really really largely when it comes to foreign policy in the u.s. is that the only big issue that biden will have to tackle well certainly not i mean i think it's one of the biggest challenges for the united states and for biden's attempt to work with allies because it was we saw in the report there i think the fear will be for the biden team that when the chips are down for the europeans they want to pursue their interests they don't necessarily blindly want to. follow what
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the united states is saying on an issue like china and you see that also with the nordstrom.

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