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obviously you are rich. there's a warning for exceptions from the super power to become dependent on the. speed. starts feb 19th on. my to do it with very little approach and i understand that. it's not what be expected crystallizing be on your partners all year because your opinion because you're in terrible and getting everything up and running is a little bit unfair it was in doubt right up to the last minute but on christmas eve the e.u. and britain clinched a free trade deal with the post directly below now at least in the u.k. there are some hard realities to deal with and plenty of shots of the trial my guest this week from aberdeen in scotland is andrew barley conservative m.p.
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and vice chairman of the conservative party what is boris johnson so economical with the truth and why did he break so many called the. underbelly of welcome to conflict zone thank you very much for pleasure to be here i guess you can argue about whether britain's 11th hour free trade deal with the e.u. is good or bad but whatever it is why did the prime minister have to lie about it i'm thinking about he's flat out denial that when montara barrios associated with the deal. well i don't think that using phrases like allies in any very helpful i mean what the prime minister is trying to explain is that this is a good deal for britain a good deal for the e.u. in the territories that were. far less of an obstruction that would be the case
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we have got and all that the scaremongering and the stories about the cuban over the cuba calley and hold up a comma is not and we are proceeding at an early age i'm sure that you're you know we want to see l'arche victory for business and for the peoples of both of our above our unions and i think i said you you could you go over a good basis for last week or if i may say you blubaugh said over the fact of what he said which was on christmas eve there will be no palisade of terrorists and no non tariff barriers no non-tariff barriers time to mrs net that that simply wasn't true you know i would agree with that all there that there are of course at tara byers the prime minister what he what he said that's not what. he said about people i don't need a you know i think you don't know or he was once i'm going to choose which is it i mean either he didn't know he wasn't telling the truth which was at the trial the trial has to be enough to clear all the way along is the time to get a deal that works for the united kingdom as you're you know we got that deal to
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build good business and provide a very good as a starting point for a referral for the relationship between european and and really independent so when i came to flourish under tarp buyers how to stop all are in place are not insurmountable that is what the prime minister was trying to say when he said there is no power stayed. higher to me they are surmountable we're working with business over qantas all part of the teething problems that some of them might be having at the minute and so that we can move on this new year a french cooperation in the e.u. in the u.k. well i hate to nit pick but he said there will be no palisade of terrorist and no known carriage barriers and we now have what retailers are calling the biggest imposition of red tape in 50 years on the. u.k. tax authorities have estimated that the cost of that for british companies will be around $7000000000.00 pounds annually so to say that there will be no non-tariff barriers i'm sorry to keep going on about this but i think the truth matters in politics what it what does it say about a government believes
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a false statement on its website especially when it's known to everyone that it is false it shows a degree of contempt for the british public doesn't mean as i said nonsense i mean the prime minister is going to say sure nothing folate contemporary poetry is a really great deal of respect and i'm weak we trust the understand the deal but we got a deal that's good for business good for trade and and yes there are going to be eating problems and yes there is red tape and then and we're working very closely with and by the way with the. organizations on the other side of the china within the european union to make sure that these obstructions such as they are are not in place for very long and the teething problems are more wrinkles are ironed out and we're able to continue really so astutely playing with european i'll be where before we left well let's talk about some of the teething problems you call the ventilator but the fact is that the government has been less than candid over much of the bracks process hasn't it let's take the northern ireland protocol in the
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toba 2019 which mandated checks on goods going from great britain's in northern ireland because northern ireland is remaining inside the e.u. single market for goods 2 months later mr johnson insisted that the no checks why was that again ignorance or dishonesty that was needed to try and we were we were determined to make sure that when the united kingdom of great northern ireland left the european even so as one and that's what we've done was to line the northern ireland the best of both worlds avoiding a hard border on the island of ireland i think it was great i was the last thing that anybody wanted and so the i hope you might want such a northern ireland remains in the us and your course going to vote so on elements of checks on trade in. northern ireland yes that was not what he said he denied it was what mr johnson actually said was there is no question of there being checks on goods between northern ireland and great britain or great britain and northern ireland and that was simply untrue wasn't it you know i wouldn't say it was untrue
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i think now i won't be voting for heaven's sake of course it's untrue it doesn't accord with the facts it's not i'm sure that it doesn't receive a this is self-esteem is the power i had with. what we what we've achieved has been it was with something which most people thought was honest people nobody believed i'm not arguing about another meeting about you to leave the transition period i will go with northern ireland remaining a part of the u.k. single market and you customs union without a hard border on the island the bond with free flow and just about as freely as it or or we left the european you know i think that's a great success or 'd the british from having the european union compromise as well and we came to an agreement well i reached the u.k. one elaine and to respect your station or the republic of ireland over goods although i would i understand that you don't want to talk about the issue of truth and you'd much rather talk about other aspects of this deal but look what happens
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look at the us look at what happens when leaders no longer bother to distinguish between fact and fiction it can lead to massive social dislocation aren't you worried about that here in britain and i think comparing the situation in the nice change with the satiation the states might be getting a bit beyond ourselves i mean i think that the reality because it's a lying isn't it is because of the lying the gone on in terms refusal to accept the truth and that i think that a large party as well is a huge difference between trying to explain the complexities of the trade agreement between the united kingdom in the european union and accepting the results of a free fair and open democratic election which is what we've seen in the united states american i think i speak respect and. everybody in the conservative party and the government when i say we are looking forward to this one and then seeing joe biden assume the presidency of the ice base because it's bad this era. of lies to speak of democratic process united states senate is mr barry there's
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a lot of people who trusted mr johnson have been badly let down haven't i the democratic unionist party in northern ireland said they were promised they'd be treated just like anywhere else in the u.k. and they weren't a year away only no i mean the leader of the the time i had just finished a question can i just finish the question or year ago mr johnson told us to unionists that no british conservative prime minister could or should sign up to any bracks deal that damaged the fabric of the union with regulatory checks and even customs controls between great britain and northern ireland and yet that's exactly what the northern ireland protocol did in the fact as part of the single market northern ireland has to follow strict e.u. regulations on food standards plant and animal health that's fact and that's the time that strictly opposed to what mr johnson promised them report yeah exactly yeah sure metrically opposed no what the prime minister did achieve here she came
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to him leaving the european union as one united kingdom with the best of both worlds for northern ireland and the alternative was to leave northern ireland in a position where our border on the island of ireland or. we were almost in a situation preserve all about we control almost every aspect of creation on the island of knowledge of your telling me a little you would be telling me yes you're telling me what he actually signed up to but that wasn't what he said he was going to sign up to that's my point so when mr johnson declared on december the 24th we've taken back control of every jot and tittle whatever that means very jot and tittle of our regulations in a way that's complete and unfettered that once again wasn't true is that northern ireland is very much fatted by its obligation to abide by the rules of the e.u. single market at least for the next 4 years again that's fact. what we have managed to do we are nice to read the european union as one united kingdom northern ireland alongside the rest of united kingdom of great britain and of course i know i'm not
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alone and what we have achieved is something that most people thought was apology we managed to do it with very little obstruction on trade we managed to do it as one with a hard order on on the island of ireland and i was moving forward with that with a deal that allows us to to create a new relationship of friendship and cooperation something we can build on as we move forward this time a year ago this time 2 years ago people were questioning whether bracks it would even happen that we got the cross-wind fact that we have now left now left a transition period with as good a deal as we have written and yes this is in northern ireland who actually i think we have the best of both worlds is something i think we should be cheered and not and i think we should be and i predict. do you think that the hans is the reputation of the government and the prime minister when you just break a promise which you made to with do you pee in northern ireland and just brush over it you think other countries don't notice that i think what and hans's the position
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of the british government is is a demonstration that able to achieve what we have achieved and peacefully. with the good intention leaving the european union with this trade deal something which as i keep saying if only a year ago were saying which is most of us right understand so walk away from the northern ireland deal and breach international law in the process not only produced outrage in britain and europe but also in the us where you talk about the need for a us trade deal and getting together with the new biden ministration doesn't exactly enhance mr johnson's reputation with that incoming administration has it well or. track achieved was the result of our getting another one protocol agree and the eventual deal with the european union as. so you support that threat to you you don't care how long it was around you because that's part of the lives of all the characters as you've heard whatever sound is that your friend on the thread
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will understand because of the over the long been done on support of the government all the way through in its position in the go skating and that and its half except trying to do the worse for ourselves and the european union and what we were talking about was something which other countries in the world have done on numerous occasions of course stop and control it with me to talk of everything international law but we play much of it when it comes time and how do you manage to come to an agreement come to a deal which i think if you spread everything yes and so shoddy was the government's chief law officer had to resign in protest that he was because he was going to be i think he had been a prisoner in. the service life as a law abiding country does and then living it you can know who's going in agreement with britain after this really valuable european this yeah yeah but after that take off they wanted out of the deal. the government was playing hardball as many countries do when they're negotiating complex international agreements and indeed
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germany has done on occasion in the past the chief law officer resigned on principle of course i respect the idea of the president break international law however it has not come to that and which is a very good thing in my eyes and he was done and now i think we're in a very good position to move forward as i said in the build on our relationship a longstanding relationship allies france as we recorded and shared objects as we ourselves and your most intimate most in the group combating. 'd campaigning free trade all the things that we share with your opinion the steel of our skin to work and let's talk about those teething problems which you mention to those include empty shelves in some of the supermarkets in northern ireland which the government described as teething problems that hasn't done anything to pacify the. cavite unionist party says geoffrey dollars isn't the leader at westminster said the no the law in pensacola had ruined trade in northern ireland it was an insult to our
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intelligence to talk of a teething problems his colleague and pays a set the province had been screwed over by mr johnson this is another part of the deal that wasn't properly thought out was about all of these are teething problems the government is working very closely with the whole years and businesses that are seeking to transport are going to cross the irish the north island to make sure that the scenes we saw in early january are answered just markets are not at repeated there is no reason for them to be any shortage of food stocks in northern ireland so might go as that. using gaping holes they were concerned to ensure that the situation not arise again you know what we saw was there being as you say there's no reason why there should be empty shells but there were plenty of warnings not least from the national audit office 'd back in november when it slammed the government for a shortage of customs brokers i'm prepared border cites failure to build enough capacity a new custom software you report you so don't you well or there are obviously
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teething problems we are 'd forgetting that you can never get to the site of the inaudible or to 50 years or any stuff it's a failure to pass properly is not teething problem it's a failure to plan properly and you will want about it you know i think what is clear is that we didn't know the situation regarding the trade deal until the very last minute the 20 it was christmas eve and i believe that we are licensed i deal with the european union so the fact that people are criticizing the under par in this on either the government or the european customers officials in terms of getting everything up and running is a little bit unfair there were no the militia called considerably earlier than christmas eve we are aware that there are issues in terms of free stuff coming across the irish sea into northern ireland and what we none of us want to see every again and shelf and market. you know i think. we are very sure and certain the stuff we have taken since the early sixty's trying to make sure that. the stuff
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gets not nolen means that we will not be seeing those scenes nobody wants to happen in the midst of i was staggering to read in mr johnson's christmassy speech that his back sit still means certainty for business from financial services to our world leading manufacturers in fact there's no certainty it over britain's financial services is that because. there's almost nothing in the deal about them and mr johnson is of regretted that at least and he said that the us sailed to meeting them bishan in that sector so ringback certainly no certainty there in fact the old certainty was came in the losses that hit the city of london the 1st full day of trading this year i think the prime minister was saying on the 24 which is what this deal does is guarantee 7 secret where we are having a united kingdom where relationship will be with europeans for the business can go on plan for the next few years and decades. as we move forward the prime minister
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saying about harley and carrying signs were there nearly 6000000000 euros worth of you should dealing shifted right out of london on that 1st day of trading and into other european capitals the chief executive of acme exchange said it's not big bang it's bang and it's gone the city has lost its european share business has a hefty cut in tax receipts for the government and some of that prediction didn't make it its way into the cracks it is. prospectus did it before the referendum. well if there are obviously areas of the deal maybe we might just always have gone further and we might may have liked to see in financial services included in terms of the overall effect of the table what we achieved was what people normally expect hardly anybody anywhere expects the scales are cheap and the prime minister said we are to stop and say for business that's exactly what we did it says neither know what our relationship with the content of your will be for the next year and probably ask you that if the markets are
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a very good place to start with the government they don't know if they don't know because the e.u. hasn't accepted the equivalence between britain's financial services and its own so you have no idea whether they're going to do that and perhaps the only certain thing is what the office of budget what the people because then i think the next crisis when they get the office of budget responsibility says you're going to take a 4 percent hit to g.d.p. over the next 10 years that's the only certainty that's coming up really well i mean the only certainty is that i'd be making accommodation for the millionaires barons to be better to be proven wrong in some respects indeed i can't even remember the last of the all the arbitration that was and anyway near correct the last 10 years the united kingdom but the fact is in your opinion you know it's ethical or great sex or they would be coming off their nose at us by their relationship between the london stock exchange right promoter of a speech and injury and will continue to be so and i will always the european
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expecting that accepting a quick words is beneficial not just to us but to them as well well it's good of you to tell them what's beneficial for them but they may well have other ideas about it as they have done throughout the negotiations oh this comes as a new study from the london school of economics predicts british exports to the e.u. will nose dive by around a 3rd over the next 10 years with total u.k. trade falling by 13 percent that's dark predictions of backed up by figures from last year compiled by the financial times released in december they show that u.k. goods. exports have lagged behind countries in 2020 in both the e.u. and other markets where we are or were from is very hard to build up our manufacturing sector and to increase exports from the united kingdom but the dire predictions from the london school of economics from the financial times and others worry there's a desire same people that were predicting dark consequences on the day that we left the european union last year the reputational hits we go on to happen to become
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a pariah state movers in the north sea the absolutely not the case this year we're demonstrating hosting a conference he says hosting the g 7 that we are a leading player on the world stage we will continue to be so working with our friends and allies in the european union yes of course we want x. we're more yes of course we want to move ahead a sickly again at 42 united states americans should be building more british things in here and things absolutely we should be selling them abroad and that's not just is not just or is it is not just predictions just about in the 6 months to october us imports from the u.k. fell by almost 30 percent that's almost twice the drop recorded by germany in spain so there's clearly nervousness about trading with britain at the moment isn't that what people have the countries in the world in companies across growth overcome that nervousness in the months ahead as they see lowish and just blossom between ourselves and the european they see that there is nothing and nothing has changed
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within the united kingdom in terms of our mission to be an outward facing exports a retreating nation and i see exactly what we're going to be focusing on as we move ices this period of the pandemic and all the rest of the over the next few months and years after the fact that having sovereignty is little more than a myth as former deputy prime minister michael heseltine said recently a sovereign in charge control regained none of that creates a single job one pounds worth of invest. any rise in living standards that's what he said he's right isn't he and that's what the figures already are showing all of those there's an argument about whether a country is so vernon or an argument about how you develop the economy create jobs we can do both then by britain has achieved sovereignty it's independence from the european union never focuses on building off our economy recovering from coronavirus creating jobs and the prime minister is
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a leveling off across the united kingdom and that is very much where our focus is now the 2 are not until late just because one has become so big does not mean that was suddenly it was exceeding every other aspect and we are determined you can get your voters back you've got a 25 percent quota transfer over the next 5 years far less than you originally demanded and you fishermen are not accusing you right click of the trial and say why people him a promise is going to tell you 100 on my understanding christiane rhapsodic which is in the north east scotland i represent i understand very much the concerns in the fishing industry and yes we've got a 25 percent court record transfer over the next 5 years i give us the opportunity to build up our fishing industry so that in 5 years' time when we become independent coastal state taking our seat at the table and negotiate access forces and all the rest of it with european union with norway with iceland that we will be doing that on the same basis as all the others so yes i understand the frustration
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in the beijing industry it's not what they expected on day one but we have now the prospect of years of becoming an independent sovereign coast state and nice what we're working towards next we can build our own fishing industry the rain reap the rewards of the sea of opportunity that lies with us from france 25 moments it wasn't what they expected because it wasn't what you told them to expect it was never going to happen that way was it because some of that sovereignty that you won through leaving the european union you bargain the way in the day. well didn't you as you always do with sovereignty you bargain bits away seventy's bargain by britain's membership of the w t l the world health organization nato it's not an absolute is it sovereignty no it's not the british people but it was hard to an absolute it was so the absolute what the british people voted for in june 26th in was to have control over their borders and their laws and where british money british tuskers money was indeed
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being nice but we're cheap through reading your opinion and leaving the transition agreement with this deal and in 5 years time british fisherman will have control over more stocks of fish and they have ever had since we 1st joined the european community as it was in the 1970 s. it was only then by the way that the europeans even created a common fisheries policy so yes we're going to have to bide our time and be patient the last 5 years what does do is a little dust over a 100000000 times in building on our fishing industry so it can reap the rewards when the day comes that we take our seat as an independent. i would look in coastal states in the negotiations of european or well your currents and your businesses are buying that the national federation of fisherman's organizations told mr johnson recently it would be much better if you with humility and on a state that word again humility and honestly conceded that you tried but failed
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rather than implying that you've handed us the keys of our liberation when you haven't so there's a long way to go to convince your clients that you've actually got what you say you've got because in all the wrong and now they're not buying now there is a long way to go i guess now and i get the frustration i speak to the one year deal daily basis so i understand what we have to do to make sure that we gain the trust of fishermen in the fishing industry in the united kingdom but it's or banks are saying that we have got this deal across the line. we are still able to trade help scottish and british in the european union would otherwise be 85 percent were transferred by the way what the e.u. were initially asking for trouble in 5 years time given we have been a member of the congress we always say which trust own people say ruined the british fishing industry of last 4 years i think overpriced and we will return benefits in a few years all right anger about it's been great having you all called exam thank
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. this is g w news live from berlin tonight america's reconciler in chief joe biden becomes president of the united states promising to bring unity to a divided manged to protect and defend to serve and protect the read the constitution of the united states constitution of the united states so help you god help me god congratulations mr president i i and with that oath joe biden became the 46 president of the united states in his inaugural speech.

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