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from inside my. indoor not more. even. i was into it and. my choice in this car because even the way to transmitted to trolls. is it all just a lot of hot investors have been snapping up hydrogen related stocks as if the gas were in short supply it's the most abundant element in the universe like on our sun
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but on earth it's mostly extracted from fossil fuels and meeting carbon dioxide in the process what's got traders excited at companies promises of clean hydrogen electrolysis splits water into hydrogen and oxygen doing it cheaply could be the holy grail of green energy so it could hydrogen become the fuel of the future that's what we're looking at today are made and been physical and ship prices of companies in the industry have soared more than 500 percent in the past year there are several reasons 0 emissions vehicles are all the rage many countries are going koppen free in the next few decades u.s. president joe biden has thrown his weight behind the sector and the european union plans to scale up or new level hydrogen projects in polluting industries like chemicals and steel but a lot of the focus are fire has been on cars the question is will hydrogen powered cars overtake their electric cars. what's the
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deal when we all supposed to be driving plug in electric cars they're on offer as part of car sharing plans in many cities. but now they're closer to things. over the past 2 decades several hydrogen models have been unveiled though most of them use hydrogen in combustion engines but what about hydrogen cars with electric motors like this one. we also the head of the german hydrogen and fuel cell association about the advantage over plug in each car. plug in electric cars have a distance problem and ranges are growing become with up to 4 hours recharging time who wants to set off on vacation and have to take a 4 hour break every 250 kilometers it's not an option. how does this h 2 powered car work it involves a kind of factory known as a fuel cell. from the air and hydrogen from the time come together and react in the
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fuel cell producing electricity that powers the car's electric engine. what comes out of the title pipe. unlike combustion engines no exhaust fumes or carbon dioxide are produced. but only a few car makers manufacture them such as hi i'm dying on toyota and the technology remains expensive a car like this toyota mirai costs 79000 euros at the moment in the future a new model is expected to sell for about $64000.00 euros why is it still so costly . and why the vehicles are sufficiently well developed to be sold at ordinary car prices if they were mass produced. but at the moment there's a lack of demand perhaps also there's not enough state intervention to ensure that enough vehicles are accepted. that's all well
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and good but so far the hydrogen itself is mainly produced using fossil fuels not exactly climate friendly. the phone hoover institute for systems and innovation research has calculated how much h.t. would be needed in germany to fully exploit hydrogen technologies and it's unlocked . in 2018 a total of 560 terawatts hours of electric power was used in germany even if electricity consumption stayed the same in 2050 as much as double that would be required to produce all the hydrogen needed for fuel cells and for making synthetic fuels. to generate all those extra power germany would have to expand wind and solar on a massive scale to produce both enough hydrogen for transport taishan and enough electricity for other uses. that would mean. in the process of if we want to or are allowed to use hydrogen for mobility then this hydrogen can
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only be generated with renewable energy source. we would have to build up trade relations with countries with huge amounts of space sunshine and wind available and that are willing to become our energy providers of the future. sustainable energy plants would have to be built there so hydrogen could be produced and transported via pipelines or ships to germany to transport you. ok so the message is renewable energy would have to be expanded massively to produce enough hydrogen but not only is there still a lack of hydrogen but also with the necessary infrastructure such as filling stations in the capital there are currently just 5 hydrogen filling stations and a total of 19 throughout germany. filling up takes just 3 minutes and then the car can travel 500 kilometers. just emotional made of driving 100. costs just as much as with
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a diesel engine so it's not more expensive for the customer the industry has agreed to build a significant number of filling stations up to $400.00 of them without looking at exactly how many cars there actually are. support from policymakers not just to expand renewable energies but also hydrogen production in december the german government launched a new pilot project in chile where siemens plans to produce synthetic fuels using hydrogen experts think that h 2 technology in the form of fuel cells is also being taken more seriously. you have people to 10 years ago it was more like an engineers dream it's such a cool and clever technology and we now have clear binding climate targets in the green deal gave us more ambitious targets we realized these are not attainable with conventional combustion engines we simply need different technologies. on the other hand to the global market for hydrogen on synthetic fuels made his growing scientists found with the institute calculate that the market value will reach up
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to 190000000000 euros why 2030 and as much as 680000000000 euros by 2050. good prospects than the hydrogen technology. in 10 years many more of these vehicles looks to be cruising through the country. but it's still not a given hydrogen as a fuel for cars sounds great the gas could one day play a major role in slowing global warming still it's not always the best technology that wins it's the one that clinches market share and rides the network effect some analysts are warning of a bubble a frenzy of hydrogen related stocks has companies trading at extreme prices based on expectations that their revenue will surge in the future despite worries about possible headwinds for the sector it was a similar burst of enthusiasm about 20 years ago that proved short lived and
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another thing is abundant energy source has to get a lot greener 1st to make an impact on the planet if it really hits the streets that is or takes its place in other industries. hydrogen is considered an important energy source of the future it's supposed to make up a key part of europe's transition to sustainable sources of power. the dutch court of rotterdam is investing in h. 2 in a big way. it's planning to build a hydrogen network covering the entire ports aiming to become a hub for producing importing and transporting biggest to other european countries but is hydrogen truly green. hydrogen itself is actually colorless but it's called grey blue or indeed green depending on the manufacturing process used to produce it today most hydrogen is grain it's made from fossil fuels like natural gas and coal
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and produces high levels of c o 2 emissions. blue hydrogen is also grey in the sense that it too is gained from fossil fuels but the climate damaging c o 2 is captured and stored in empty gas fields under the sea for example. so the carbon footprint is significantly lower. in the green many factoring process hydrogen is derived from water and this is the only form of 82 production that can be described as sustainable and a lot of positive all hydrogen is overseen because it's always the molecule true but the different manufacturing processes determine how high the greenhouse gas emissions are and how clean the hydrogen is. green hydrogen is produced by splitting water into oxygen and hydrogen with the help of electricity.
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but that electricity doesn't always come from 0 emission sources. so even green hydrogen is only sustainable if the power used to make it comes from renewable. such as wind also low power. only then is it produced without emitting any carbon dioxide. if it's to be green and sustainable the hydrogen has to be produced using renewables you asked it. but what if a country doesn't have enough renewable electricity to cover the need for green hydrogen production. germany for example has insufficient wind and solar power so by 2050 the country will have to import 45000000 tons of hydrogen the risk there is that transporting it of a long distances by ship or pipeline could cause further environmental damage. and what was 131 point of course a certification we need a global certification system to really prove that this hydrogen has been produced
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from green electricity. going to right now we don't have that because there's no agreement on it yet. another hurdle for a quick transition to truly green hydrogen is the cost. been the moment in. if you compare renewable green or even hydrogen with fossil fuels under the current regulatory framework then it's a very expensive option and another for the total value and. but as more electricity is produced from renewable sources green hydrogen should become less expensive. predict the cost will more than half by 2030 but so far the production of green hydrogen is not widespread in the european union. experts predict that the blue option where the c
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o 2 emitted during production is stored remain a key source of hydrogen for years to come. well germany is keen on expanding its capacity for hydrogen production the aim is to produce the gas on an industrial scale with 0 emissions this green hydrogen would be used not only for fuels but also for heating and generating electricity still produces like to cope and sites get are investing billions of euros to make production climate you troll with the help of hydrogen power even oil giants are getting in on the act be developing a renewable hydrogen project at its refinery here in germany to replace a big chunk of its fossil based hydrogen consumption the road to greener energy needs to ems land the northern german district hopes to play a leading role in the country's transition to renewable energy.
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tim huisman coordinates the development of hydrogen production infrastructure in the region. this weekend together with the offshore wind turbines to generate the power that will be used to produce hydrogen in a carbon neutral process. behind using hydrogen is to achieve c o 2 neutrality that means transitioning from fossil fuels using renewable energies replacing all that natural gas and petroleum by alternatives and that has to be. solar energy . is in good shape economically with modern industrial and commercial enterprises well funded with taxes the region can afford to invest heavily in the energy transition. oil multinational b.p. runs a huge refinery in m's land. refineries like this one are among the biggest industrial
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consumers of hydrogen several tons per hour i needed to remove sulfur from the gasoline and diesel produced here. but what's being used is so-called grey hydrogen derived from natural gas you know process which emits large amounts of climate damaging c o 2 the plant is being converted so that in future it can produce carbon neutral green hydrogen and. don't forget that there are large fergus's and plants like these large amounts of energy are needed here it's 120 megawatts 128 reactor tubes filled with catalysts it's highly energy intensive and produces lots of c o 2 the new plant a pure. needs much less energy with almost no c o 2. but it's very expensive without state subsidies it would be difficult to realize the plans. to be subsidized green hydrogen costs more than great hydrogen
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so there's no economic incentive for it why would a market driven company use green hydrogen but it just costs them money and their customers won't pay for it so subsidies are central and both the german government and the e.u. agree that they will be in the billions. in. making industrial facilities more eco friendly cost a lot of money at this power plant green hydrogen could soon replace natural gas. and german energy multinational plans to build one of the world's biggest hydrogen production plants on this field green hydrogen is opening up entirely new business opportunities. in which we can temporarily store the large.
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vailable industries and power plants that are switching to a. stored energy. co-ordinated tim who says it's important to implement green hydrogen quickly that way the existing natural gas pipeline system can be used for distribution allowing the hydrogen to be transported to every corner of the country. will be dispensable in many sectors which is why it should have been invested in years ago. but it's only now that the course has been set the 1st green hydrogen plants in should be up and running next year. well one good thing about this pandemic for the planet has been the fact that most of. the night and he will sort of travel.
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an economic catastrophe because one in 10 jobs around the world are interested and officials reckon. probably again until 2023. and what they could do in the meantime is trying to clean up the business choosing to fly comes at a high price in terms of emissions. we might soon change that with 0 emission hydrogen powered aircraft but is that realistic. remember when flying was fun. and adventure for free spirits and jet set feel and. then look at all the fossil fuel that has to be burned to get you flushed the sky. flying is the fastest white into the climate crisis how do you think. that there's hope and innovative ideas the industry is trying to reduce its carbon
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footprint. there are many many reasons to believe in hydrogen. will lower flight soon be eco friendly what's behind the green hydrogen hype. more than 20000 planes when operational around the world before the pandemic carrying over 4500000000 passengers and 29000. most of them were frequent flyers on domestic flights in the u.s. and china and they accounted for about a quarter of all of the asian emissions the problem with aviation and that they're a very tiny minority of the world takes a huge share of that message while 80 percent has never seen any. direct c o 2 emissions from a vacation accounted for at least 2 percent of global emissions in $21000.00 doesn't sound like much so unfortunately it's the most energy intelligence activity
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that. by and while you can get an electric car or swap meet for veggies there isn't really a viable eco friendly alternative to long distance air travel yet. how did we get into this. let's go back to where it all began. the world humans. are stories of. itself. you know a promise of a world that is increasingly connected to it was a jet set activity flying was so exclusive because it was very expensive share plan it was like eliminating. an ordinary us domestic grand trip cost around $600.00 back in the 1970 s. and one paying $4000.00 in today's money but then the market was deregulated low cost carriers emerged and growth became target number one we've got it this year
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alone 100000000 people haitian fly for the 1st time and if you people from the privilege of a few into a service from many. of these are markets this is a population that is as a 1st to fly for for probably more access to the freedom it brings from you have ports to new markets to sky west of limits for the aviation industry. until 2021 to coronavirus it grounded most of the world's aircraft but the industry is expected to bounce back soon. we think that we will see a return to. traffic by the end of the war ok so people want to fly and will fly but does it have to involve blasting fossil fuel emissions into the air. perhaps not and the industry has been quite creative and proposing alternatives. that at least. 1214
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different technologies that have proposed. this stuff i guess professor for tourism and transport in sweden focused on a vacation since the beginning of his academic career. i think. everything. replacing aircraft that was early in the ninety's. was completely new airframe models like this one. blended wing technology to save kerosene so long. plant based fuels the so-called biofuels are all the rage. and company kalen for example prided itself on using them the great thing about biofuels is that we can make them using algae. sugarcane seeds we don't even from cooking oil fuel is great for c o 2 but there isn't enough of it around that's like a lamb is getting everyone together to produce biofuel on a large scale ok and the leading ally in by
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a field but actual share of biofuels was only 0 point one percent of their total fuel consumption and $21000.00 in the end they were sued for misleading marketing. recently about electric aircraft and we were convinced that the electrical revolution would happen in aerospace as well so we launched a fully electric powered aircraft which we called the. approved tech that was canceled the year before it was scheduled to make its 1st flight well. as a scientist measure progress and that is emissions going down and we haven't seen that. now hydrogen is supposed to save the planet. that were believed in what hydrogen represents is most pivotal why they say hydrogen has at least 3 striking features number one it's a versatile energy carrier and can power aircraft with high energy demand where
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better its would be no alternative. hydrogen can be made using renewable energy meaning the production can be environmentally friendly did so called green hydrogen is what they want. what we're talking about here is really powering aviation for noble energy. it does not pollute hydrogen when burned emits new c o 2 and almost no air pollution which of course is the biggest plus ok sounds great but. and 2035 is this ambitious they're said to ourselves to come in service with a green after green something fried come out for are crossed. 2035 why so late the core challenges are to really build an aircraft that can safely run on hydrogen biggest storage and a whole new design will be needed before hydrogen planes can take off. and the
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infrastructure fighter jet needs to be developed from planes to refuel into production building up a coherent hydrogen system takes time and costs a lot of money. and finally there's simply not enough green hydrogen available yet the share of the new builds worldwide is still too low to produce enough eco friendly hydrogen for the industry right now the hydrogen we use is almost entirely made from natural gas and coal. and of course it's all just a promise and promises have been broken by the time it does work it may be too late the problem with hydrogen is that it doesn't well yet well it's simply not there yet despite industry assurances we are being upset everything we can to reduce the sea with through my work for church the c.e.o. of the future scientists like stephan gosling remain skeptical. well off the train
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5 years of think i'm entitled to an opinion so i'll just tell you right out i don't think the sectors any interest in taking. everything we've seen in terms of discussion on proposals has always just been a proposition for the future as long as the aviation industry is business model is based on fossil fuels and growth initiatives will continue to rise that's why activists and scientists are calling for stricter regulation we need to governance through to address this problem if we leave it to the alliance i'm very skeptical we will see a solution so back to our original question will our flights be eco friendly. put simply no they won't hydrogen. and will need more time to reach its potential but we can help reduce emissions knowledge by making choices about how we travel and traveling less one of the possible because technology alone will not be able to save our planet. we can do that i am was.
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this is the doubling years lie from ballet in the european union increases the pressure on vaccine manufacturers astra zeneca brussels demands of vaccines from 2 plants in britain must be shared with europe rather than reserved for the u.k. assures that because c.e.o. says the company is not the legally obliged to deliver to a particular deadline also on the program to police in russia right properties and offices of jailed kremlin critic alexei in the valley the homes of other russian politicians are also search for bring about natives to live from moscow. i mean
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today is international holocaust remembrance day 76 years after the liberation of the nazi concentration camp auschwitz is called on to commemorate the 6000000 jews and others killed in the genocide and to never forget. i'm told gail welcome to the program. the european union has told the drugs may cost was not a cow but it must supply the block with more doses of its coffee $19.00 vaccine brussels has publicly expressed its frustration after the company announced delays to delivery obs citing that it's a huge base to plants of produced a fewer doses than expected the company responded by describing the delivery date set out in its contract with brussels just talk its rather than legally binding bad
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lives with the e.u. is insisting the shortfall be made up with doses produced at u.k. plants which the company says should go to britain because it placed its order 1st is the e.u.'s health commissioner stella karaoke this i'm not even. 27 union members are united. in our agreement. not even. know we provided the investment up front you know if you get the binding commitment from the company to do you even before. not being able to manufacture. again. and. that may work. but.
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let's get more from do you know who comes from the ground motus in brussels welcome go to there has been a day of claims counterclaims and angry messaging between the 2 sides i'm going to bring us up to date. i think to a key points theory akitas made here and one being that the best effort clause that apparently is in that confidential contract that the huge commission now has asked us resented got to put on the table so that everybody can see that there is a clear commitment to deliver the vaccines promised 80000000 in the 1st quarter not just the 31000000 that astra zeneca has now indicated they could deliver so making clear that a best effort clause is not an excuse but it's pretty much a standard if you buy a product that hasn't been produced yet and the 2nd key thing that kerry akitas made clear today is that there is no hierarchy of factories astra zeneca is a clove of company if there is a supply problem as let's say in india or europe or the u.k.
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it doesn't matter it cannot be that just one client and the u.a.e. you being the biggest client has to carry that burden off that supply problem so does she have an or else one pressure can the e.u. exact. she made clear today that there is no talk about export ban because obviously a number of journalists trace that questions about vaccine nationalism and she said none of none of that is on the table what the e.u. seeks is fairness and they want that the contract they have signed is fulfilled but it was very clear at the end of that press conference she said that no company should be under any illusion that the e.u. does not have the means to understand what's happening so the message here for companies is don't all this for a fool we know what you are doing and the transparency mechanism that has been suggested by the european union will also show them and that is if you if you want a warning shot that now if that scenes are exported from the e.u. the e.u.
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will monitor this and potentially that could also lead to a ban but she ruled it out for the moment and we're talking about a vaccine this from astra zeneca that hasn't even been approved for use in the e.u. yet and now then a questions about its efficacy in older patients so what can we expect to hear from the european a medicine stage and say. we really have to wait until the end of the week that's when the approval from the european medical agency is expected there are reports that data is still coming in from astra zeneca as we speak right now and that there is not a lot of data on the group of elderly people of $65.00 plus only 6 to 8 percent have been participating in trials and that is not a lot that is less than of the vaccines that have so far been approved so it may be that the european medical agency will give
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a lesser approval for older age groups on on that particular vaccine for masters anika but that we really have to see we can only speculate at the moment but i thank you for that gayle go watch us in brussels. germany is considering additional radical steps to try and slow the spread of coverage 19 including drastically reducing international air travel to the country the government is worried that restrictions currently in place may not be enough if new more infectious variants of the virus continue to arrive. for now german airports like frankfurt remain open to travel but that could soon be a thing of the past according to the german government the plan put forward by the country's interior minister means air travel into germany could be reduced to new 0 if the new more contagious variants of the coronavirus spiral out of control in a 1st step mandatory tests for people arriving in germany could be introduced. and
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we don't think about reducing our air travel to 0 we'll talk about more tests when you arrive in germany right now you can come from countries like egypt i was out having a test the fear of new variance is real in germany several hospitals have stopped new missions and some staff are in florentine because they've tested positive for them scientists are now feverish lee working on establishing just how widespread the mutations are. the german government once a year of white solution to stop the spread. skin take biotin in for north ending highs in the musical we're still edging people to refrain from traveling to high risk countries particularly those where variants have been found. we're also discussing the european commission's new suggestions to tighten conditions for travel into the e.u. and for trance european travel mitnick of us from the n.d.p.
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to for shaphan german politicians face a dilemma the current restrictions on public life in place until the 15th of february seem to be working the number of daily new infections has been falling overall but in light of the thread posed by the new variants of the virus it's highly likely that they'll have to be extended. police in russia have been conducting searches at several moscow addresses connected to russian opposition leader alexei valley. you know what. this is a time to break down the door of his wife's apartment and also search mr the pounds home we'll see some of his one fund and his team studio rights come after his team held mass protests in cities across russia on sunday calling for the opposition politicians released from prison. let's go straight to our really sure when moscow welcome and tell us more about these roads
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well we've seen really a flurry of these raids across moscow this evening almost simultaneously including at the apartment that. wife is that you were in the violin there we heard from the scene from our colleagues who are there at the moment that the her lawyer has said that she's not being let into the apartment to see you again now by and there the head of. these anti corruption fund has said that at least one of the people in the team has been arrested as well and he also said that the police apparently say that these searches are part of a criminal investigation into calls to hold a protest during the pandemic referring of course back to those protests that happened last weekend but looking at it from a distance it does feel a bit like
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a crackdown against the allies of election of i me because girls mr novelli is in prison. the demonstrations were broken up by police so this is the this is what this is the russian state flexing its muscles. well some critics certainly might say that we have seen after previous big protests as well police and authorities opening criminal investigations against protesters and that's what we've been seeing this week as well the authorities have opened several around 20 criminal cases so far against protesters including for police violence for calling for an authorized as they say protests or blocking traffic so it could be part of that that we're seeing at the moment but it's also worth pointing out that these searches come almost at the same time as. journalists from
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bell and cat and the insider and other media outlets published a new investigation looking into what they say is are the same people who may have publish excuse me poisoned i like saying now vitally they say that those f.s.b. agents that they say were involved in that poisoning may have also poisoned at least 3 other public figures since 2014 so the timing of this is rather strange i would say really show it in moscow. as we look at other stories making news around the world will start in russia. no house of parliament have ratified the extension of the last remaining nuclear arms control pact with the united states the lower house the state duma voted unanimously to extend the new start treaty for 5 years her time to time after u.s.
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president joe biden and his russian counterpart vladimir putin reached a deal. at least 53 people were killed when a passenger bus and a fuel truck collided in court in western camera well hard to say dozens of others were injured in the crash near the town of shan nearly 30 people are being treated for burns in the oven hospitals. germany's parliament has mocked international holocaust remembrance day which commemorates the $6000000.00 jews and other victims of knots as the day falls on the anniversary of the liberation of a nazi concentration and extermination camp auschwitz at the end of the 2nd or speakers and ceremony in the bundestag warned against the resurgence of anti semitism. my day of remembrance for the victims of the brutal nazi regime representatives of the country's jewish community took part in the commemoration alongside german officials including president frank voltaire
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steinmeyer and chancellor angela merkel this year the ceremony also marked 700 years of jewish life in germany charlotta cannot block holocaust survivor and former head of the central council of jews warned of a worrying recurrence of anti-semitism he was in michigan i don't need to present you with a timeline of anti semitic incidents in our country they take place openly blatantly almost daily conspiracy theories are becoming more and more popular thing once again anti semitism is bringing in votes it has become socially acceptable again the bendis tax president echoed cannot blocks concerns it is need us meadow it's devastating to have to admit that our culture of remembrance does not protect us from a brazen reinterpretation or even a denial of history if you thought rich nor does it protect us from new forms of
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racism and anti semitism such as those reading in schoolyards on the internet or in conspiracy theories will still be informed by. but the ocean spark and death count remain the chilling reminders of just where such thinking can lead this year the site lies empty due to the pandemic with the 76th anniversary of its liberation marked online by an ever smaller group of survivors there is concern that the lessons of the past could die with the witnesses the director of the site's museum says that virtual events are no much for a visit. to the phone but over the nothing will replace the opportunity to experience the place the authentic space because this isn't just about seeing and listening this is about looking around walking around touching experiencing the perspective and understanding. it's a genius ski hopes the museum can open again soon so that people can once more come
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