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what ideas do they have of their future. d.w. dot com africa megacities the multimedia. could enter. the for. islands and immunization for indonesia a logistical nightmare. it's the world's largest archipelago. shipping shots to hundreds of millions of citizens spread across more than $17000.00. from the been there very good good from actually taking a public boat is not an ideal condition for distribution of fact. ceilings on drugs

over the wall but i think it's just not safe to carry vaccines in crowded conditions not moving at least in parts of vermont. and the countries vaccination campaign is highly controversial it prioritises younger people over the elderly. the government argues that they make up the bulk of the country's workforce that the breadwinners. critics say they're more vulnerable could lose out. indonesia has dropped $1000000.00 coronavirus cases and to clamp down on the soaring infectious rate it's launched one of the world's biggest vaccine drives but its strategy is contentious. the 1st shot in tunisia is national vaccination program president joko widodo getting the jab to inspire confidence among citizens but the plan is already controversial as a prioritises younger people over the elderly even influencers have been put at the

front of the law and they include research saraswati a singer and writer who's been vaccinated since last week. so i. along with health protocols vaccination is one of the best solutions to the pandemic had upsy the limited you see so i hope that with vaccination people who lost hope last year due to inaction and neglect will regain their excitement. and join the vaccination drive says he would head up on a lot of the it would be the smile that. but older people are less than joyous the vaccine hasn't even been tested on them yet although recent data shows that people over 60 in indonesia are nearly 20 times likelier to die of cove at 19 than young people also have the most and it's boring just staying at home when i want you the

vaccine will be made available to the elderly soon god and so that a calm order now i hope that apart from protecting themselves from the young people who have been vaccinated that will also protect the elderly and children who have not been vaccinated. the government justifies its vaccination priorities largely on economic grounds. we see that the majority of these young people are those who carry out economic activities in supporting their families they are actors in economic activities so we prioritize those aged 18 to 59. meanwhile the elderly tend not to do activities outside the home because they are not the backbone of the family's economy. yet the vaccination scheme has sparked debate in the community a story you see i do not agree the reason is because the elderly are the ones who

need it more. things to do i agree because there is no vaccine for the elderly. i don't think i agree because the older ones are more vulnerable than young people. the health ministry says the elderly can expect to start being vaccinated in march or april when the biotech pfizer and astra zeneca oxford vaccines arrive. so what happens to the elderly while they wait what happens if they catch though that i pose that question to dr. who's based on bond. so they have 1st they have to stay at home and keep this dancing and also and they have the catch of the company in a levy. our health care system that's ready to. i guess it's easier to keep an elderly person at home rather than a young person but what makes you think this is the right strategy when the rest of

the world is taking on a very different approach because then the number of. arrive in the 1st phase is very very short and also that the number of the proportion of the 3 in indonesia is low compared to other country and also we have the cries in the health care system that we have to keep our work or for us we're already seeing case numbers full in some countries as a result of a vaccination campaigns is your country already seeing results. not yet or all that said it all the. vaccination around one week ago and. also the number is very small proportion so we haven't like see any you know any crease of the number of the coffee 1000 indonesia how much does logistics play a pot here i know it's very different difficult to distribute the vaccine in

indonesia. right now we have 3000000. workers and we have to pull. all of this and then from. distribute to hospital and also the. indonesia. is hot and what about resistance among indignation is that a difficult task i know indonesia was the 1st outside of china to approve an emergency code 1000 back saying developed by the chinese drug make a scene of iraq despite its low effectiveness does that worry people. it is it is a big problem here in indonesia has a stand on the the general population but also how the workers but this is the thing that the government. take a pension and then try to. see from the gut from the people of indonesia and the

other factor that could see some resistance what about how loud vaccines because of your large muslim population. so the hollow is in indonesia especially for the muslims of all the facts seen that we have to take should be possibly the certification from the muslim council so all the fact scenes should have tested by this organisation. thank you very much for joining us today. picking up on the point of efficacy all those numbers can be a little confusing it's in from outside states decided to take a look at some of the rates and the history of that. we've heard a lot about the efficacy rates of crowfoot 19 vaccines u.s. pharma pharma dharna says it's coated 19 vaccine is 94.5 percent effective. pfizer biotech code 19 vaccine has an advocacy of 95 percent of final. russian

sputnik the coronavirus vaccine trial shows encouraging results but what does this mean unlike the history of 60. plus explain the 1st ever back to use for smallpox it was introduced in 796 the disease was then declared eradicated nearly 2 centuries later in 1900 and the vaccine it was 95 percent effective in preventing small pox measles 97 percent effective but in spite of the strong maxime measles continues to spread looking at you and doctors polio has nearly been eradicated and the vaccine is 99 percent effective the flu vaccine is a tricky one as the virus mutates regularly so people have to get flu shots every year to help protect against the most common strains generally the effectiveness of the flu shot hovers around 50 to 60 percent when scientists started work on covert 916 so the world health organization said one except a vaccine efficacy of just 50 percent so with these reason phase 3 clinical trial

results showing vaccines that have north of 90 percent efficacy if we want to be hopeful about well yes but neither but just because the results have been good so far it doesn't mean we can instantly go back to life as we know it not everyone will be able to get vaccinated that includes people whose immune systems are compromised or weakened by existing conditions and it will take a while to get vaccines. everyone can be vaccinated and so now after death and thing and the way it's going to be for a while yet. and hell over to our science correspondent eric williams he's been looking into your questions on the coronavirus. british strain off 19 really more deadly. last week the british prime minister caused quite a stir when at a press conference he led with this in addition to spreading more quickly it also

appears there is some evidence the new variant the very that was 1st identified in london in the scythe east may be associated with a higher degree of mortality the announcement was based on an assessment made by a group of scientists who advised the british government they'd examined new studies and called the idea that the variant was more dangerous a realistic possibility that even put a number on that around 30 to 40 percent more deadly to clarify what that means exactly an official use the example of 60 year old man and those who today are infected with earlier versions of the virus around 10 out of a 1060 year old man die if it were 30 percent more deadly the new variant

would kill 13 of those men the thing is a lot of experts including the ones at the press conference by the way they've been reminding people that the estimate is still based on some pretty preliminary data and and also horribly complex surrounding factors not least the fact that of course we're pretty sure now the variant discovered in the u.k. is is more transmissible than earlier ones and of course higher transmissible. but he will also lead to it killing more people simply because more people will catch it and perspective is also important even if the new variant does turn out to be somewhat more deadly it's still unlikely to prove to be as lethal as the original virus was at this time last year because back then we knew a lot less about how to treat covert 19 now we're able to save

a lot more of the people who end up developing severe disease. learning more and more every day start williams there i've been for school and thank you very much for watching stay safe and i'll see you again very soon here on the w. about. the 1st. complex when china imposed a national security law on hong kong last year and promised that the principle of one country 2 systems and be basic rights that it ends with the help of critics point to a rapid or roshon of freedom 6 my guest this week is michael cole beijing member of hong kong's legislative council and deputy china's national people's congress. complex. he

sits in jail. everywhere. they now call me the russian opposition leader is emerging as a mass protest. despite shopping police violence and young people especially are protesting corruption and state despotism they are now taking to the streets everywhere across russia focused. in 16 states come to egypt. closely. carefully. don't look to suit me needs to be a good. match.

to discover. subscribe to the documentary. goldwater's over reacted personally i don't think holding a primary that's unlawful yes there's been a tightening all done to express views when china imposed a national security law on hong kong last year and promised that the principle of one country 2 systems and be basic rights that it enshrines would be upheld but critics point to a rapid erosion of freedom since my guest this week is michael t. probation member of hong kong's legislative council and deputy and china's national people's congress he says the log needs clarification so why does he still

supporting. my. michael tonight welcome to conflict zone going through hong kong has started off this new year with mass arrests $53.00 pro-democracy politicians and activists detained on the grounds of subversion under the new national security law the move has been condemned by the world's leading democracy has rights groups law associations as being nothing more than a crackdown is hong kong witnessing a dismantling of its freedoms and its opposition won't i don't think so 1st of all just like you were never deals in the world we are busy fighting the pandemic. certainly the massive arrest of. earlier this year

is about a primary being held there last year the revolving 5060 people who participated in the primaries in preparation for last year's election ok so so far the basis of. the primaries involves a lot of candidates whose election platform. avali. article $22.00 or 3 measures of career law which is to paralyze the government to stop everything from functioning to basically or pose every single funding bill regardless of its nature or come to a large goal let me ask you a little bit more about about about what has prompted these arrests because actually this is what has shocked so many about these latest arrests. has been the

offense which has been considered subversion as you've articulated last summer the pro-democracy opposition they united to decide who might stand for elections they essentially organize themselves on the organized a primary they were hoping to go for a majority in the legislative council they've been arrested yes here's how the international community is reacting to those arrests we have the incoming u.s. secretary of state saying the following the arrest warrant assaults on those bravely advocating for universal rights we have the office of the u.n. high commissioner for human rights saying these latest arrests indicates that as had been feared the offense of subversion under the national security law is indeed being used to detain individuals for exercising a legitimate rights to participate in political and public life so in other words in a democracy this would be seen as standard politics but in hong kong it gets you arrested is that not disturbing to you. ok now if you read your let me share with you the

background of this now then you have to give me some time the national security bill involves article 20 which relates to the session in other words going for it but independence in that particular law is written very clearly that anybody showing a motive to do that would be deemed to have violated the law however. with regard to article $22.00 of the national security bill which is not a session going for independence or hong kong but merely to talk to the government to paralyze the legislature to a vote no to everything gaining control of legislation and all of that there is an extra clause or condition to that which is that they have to do it through a lawful means no personally i don't think holding a primary that's unlawful. so therefore if the primary in north people

who's perform are going for home going to pendants yes that would violate 20 which would mean which would be primary it's so dangerous the close through vote in a national survey a bit however none of the candidates that enter the primaries have hong kong independence as perform however a lot of them have perform basic come in and vote no to everything and paralyze the government however there has to be coupled with a norful means not the question that i have been asking is is the primary itself a lawful no i don't think so right so let's examine all the police making the arrests the therefore the police making arrests is really the 1st step and then stay so i'm going to start a medal for practices so in other words mr teen you're calling for clarification

essentially but you know i'd like to look at some of the concerns that have been had and for example this is coming from the european council they have actually said these arrests penalize political activity that should be entirely legitimate as as i've already highlighted they say the national security law is being used during a ceremony of his all in hong kong and you may have to involve a little pluralism in hong kong the european parliament at this point is calling on countries to consider same sions against targeted officials in hong kong the u.s. has already imposed targeted sanctions as a result of these arrests it doesn't get much more serious than that and what you are calling for is just a clarification you. know let me respond. they make all these arrests and everybody is out on bail secondly the government the secretary for

justice has not human stop prosecuting anyone let alone that it may end up going to a court order not to be convicted or acquitted so this is simply the very 1st step they are arrested on the basis of a special all violating article $22.00 of the national security wall people going to arrested and they are all released on bail on the basis of suspicion of. the national security law now let me assure. every country in the world the most democratic of the democracies police arrest people no arrest people and eventually they are all off the hook and prosecution don't move don't move in government lose face or if the prosecutor comes in and you lose all these cases in court also the government would lose face this is simply the very 1st step and the

whole world is now jumping on hong kong saying well we don't have freedom we're going to hide in the crazy this and that the world to get a job you always heard. this. talk weren't there russia is simply the 1st step they are all released on bail here is what human rights watch has said what remains to be seen what is important is that what specific charge. coming through and do they go according to. the national security law mr t. in the world as has been warning that this is in fact the 1st step toward repression in fact there were warnings that this would happen for example from human rights watch who said that the hong kong authorities with china's backing are imposing mainland style repression on a city long recognized for its freedoms they say hong kong's new security

legislation is nothing more than a roadmap for repression don't these latest arrests prove those warnings true ok so your view one might want to subpoena the whole world is over reacting and i'm supposed to be the more liberal of the pro give beijing camp. membership the whole world is over reacting there you go you know the details of these arrests or what it's all above. just like supporters of honor trump in the us but how about the hong kong government's promise that this law would be used to target only a minority of people mr t. and i mean kerry lam she she went on the air waves she actually spoke before the united nations saying it would only target an extremely small minority of people who have breached the law while the life the property the basic rights and freedoms of the overwhelming majority of hong kong residents will be protected that's a message that you amplified that that you echoed for various journalistic

publications tell me mr team did you get it wrong the system seem like just a small minority of people who have been targeted these are the leaders of the pro-democracy movement the main figures more than 50 people rounded up mass arrests why would you do not believe them because they've arrested only 50 people and most likely a lot of them or never be charged the key is. who will be charged and on what basis don't we all have the patience to listen and see anymore don't we are we are all just getting super hyped and super sensitive these are people that join a primary that's the only common factor among them they are now looking into each of them where in their. journey towards

participating in the the primary where did the later and the section all of the national security or one of the key suspicion is foreign government funding to fund the primary now if they can prove that it's a whole new different matter ok so you say let the progress really is targeted towards foreign government funding local opposition to right the national government and then congress on that so you say let's not that's playing out the bait with me about the merits of the national security law or not that's a different issue i don't think that's the purpose of today's interview right sentencing of pro-democracy activists for example and politicians joshua long and agnes chao and ivan lamb back in december agassi calls it a warning shot for anyone who dares to openly criticize the government that they could be next they say incitements which is what they were charged with and

sentence on refers to the use of a megaphone to shout slogans during a protest is hong kong really afraid of people with megaphones is is that what it's come to in any country the likes of trust your lawyer will be charged with treason he essentially going to foreign government to ask them to sanction his own country you don't code that. i don't argue in order korda that's absolutely being totally non patriotic ok and it's. unthinkable. have you ever thought of that what have american go through china and china to censure in the us or a german legislator going to china and asking trying to the center in germany because they're not happy with what the german government is doing how would you

react to let's just stay on track here though i mean that is not what he was convicted of we have to say and also in order to say on track i'd also like to ask you because the national security law is not the only action we know that was recently handed down by beijing which essentially bypassed the hong kong legislature in november for opposition members were expelled from the legislature for in danger of national security the chinese parliament cleared the way for the disqualification with the passing of a resolution allowing among congressmen is that all branches leaders deemed as a threat to security or not holding allegiance to hong kong was that a dark day for democracy and hong kong you said they expelled some legislators know the opposition could to indo own. free will for disqualified because they were disqualified before the election so they no longer serve in the

chorus. they no longer serve in a legislative council mr t. and they no longer serve in the legislative council because they were kicked out they were disqualified. there were 4 incumbent veges later who entered the greys and were disqualified from the race for this term so there disqualification from entering the race carries through to this extended term this is the decision of the national people's congress the rest of the opposition this sign to retire and resign all of their own free will i keep asking them to stay in because actually i really enjoy having them endure that just danger because there were probably a lot more question and answers monitoring scrutiny in government those but they decided to give up and we were not sure why they were just out of 5 mr team but you know critics what they are pointing to here and what is so concerning to so many is

the lack of due process for these lawmakers the hong kong people there are others who just want to mr dean the harkonnen guardian of his life on the basis of going to say resolving mr team stripping the 4 legislators who have usually said i'm delighted to be an interview with your wife dizzy until you are in office determined exclusively by the executive by the chief executive terry lam and without affording them an opportunity to be heard violates the basic principles of fairness and due process inheritance in the rule of law again this is coming from the hong kong bar association so no anyone can be dismissed simply at the whim of the teacher executive isn't that a troubling sign for basic rights in hong kong where is the due process mr team for the 4 lawmakers before lawmakers there were disqualified were disqualified on the basis of day with foreign government but where is the due process me

can they appeal that decision. they cannot have back of course these are actually can appeal we don't know they can appeal that decision and it will go through the court yes absolutely we do have forces and the bickering go to dip you call and a big boost you can go to the court of appeal yes we haven't done that that's not the issue that's not what the hong kong bar association says they said that legal certainty has been greatly impaired that it introduces an entirely different way to disqualify a legislator outside of article 70 outside of article 79 and without due process. and i'd like to as well in that context mr executive has agreed worked on hong kong bar association they tend to generalize about everything these 4 legislators that would disqualify definitely can and should pew one thing one or 2 of them would probably win the appeal so yes then let me ask you as

a follow up how do you put they should put their government to test about this kind of disqualification please understand i am not totally behind government disqualifying these people all the grounds and specific. allegations that they make ok because these people have not been good friends through their games by the government are you going to see them for their good friends trainings in the government in the courts and i think they are doing that and i don't know you know when that's going to happen i think we should all we can see mr see another home government may know when order time mr t. another point that you know has concerned some is the language that has been used by the chief executive and in the wake of the dismissal of these lawmakers she said the following we need to have a political body which is composed of patriots she said she was excited that bills will pass more efficiently at the legislature in the future it seems as if. there

is no room for differing or opposing views and voices anymore in the legislative council how does that serve the people of hong kong. that's a very good that's a very good question let me answer that objectively. if the chief executive basically want to ram everything through let's go to save time. and the 1st to come out and condemn her for making that statement ok simply to make sure everything goes through minimize the question is ok and past $1000000000.00 funding barrow within an hour or 2 all right if you look at what's happening in the largest city council over the last 4 years we're trying to elect a chairman of the house committee and that's been stopped for over 9 months to

a year and no bill can never go to let's go there's the other extreme or putting everything to a stop. what i think carrie lamb is saying is that these people who are running for office in their goal ok because scrutinize the bill they need to be smart enough intelligent enough to come up with questions don't make sense so filibustering is an art you don't filibuster by repeating the same thing for you know 3 months but missed it so you have a reason and your turn in government i support it i've been doing that myself sometimes government thing i asked too many questions i don't care i came asking a bar don't repeat the same questions 10 times for new times and that's what the op wishes to we're doing at one point i think that's what kerry was talking about and there are concerns as we have mentioned that there is an attempt now to neutralize

in fact the opposition in order to have things run more smoothly for the probation side for example the decision to postpone elections by a year. into human rights watch has said the following about that they've said that in november 29th pro-democracy candidates won local elections overwhelmingly that electoral showing seems to be why they have alleged kerry lambs government has disqualified pro-democracy candidates for hong kong's legislative council and in any event postponed those elections for a year they write what a better way to neutralize the power of hong kong's example than by pretending that the city's pro-democracy movement is the result of nefarious foreign influences was postponing the election and attempt to neutralize the opposition another great question. if. 19 this is not

an act of god and there is proof that there's a massive conspiracy behind covert 19 that actually somebody somewhere invented to mess up the whole world with the sole purpose of stalking stopping hong kong legislative council election from going on then i would be very rare to hear the evidence of that but mr t. in that is no of the evil there is a last minute comes to the down they have looked at it and justification and we have a justification of coronavirus and they point to nearby countries for example singapore and south korea which both are recently held successful general elections without registering a spike in covert 19 cases on the same side they look for example at the disapproval ratings of kerry land which most recently stood at 72 percent and so now the elections get postponed that doesn't look good does it 1st of all it's due to the

pandemic and then you said well when you confuse a dependency yes half of the world has. elections. on a mail in basis right in hong kong we have a problem because a lot of our residents are voters there's been some junk across the border and because of the pandemic we have corn teen issues and basically the border was stopped so a lot of these voters were deprived of the right to vote you mentioned in the beginning of our conversation that you did not feel that freedoms were under fire due to the national security law but i'd like to just point out another example to you and this is when it comes to freedom of speech and freedom of the press critics say there has been a swift crackdown they point to the arresting of a respected reporter who produced reporting critical of the police limiting of press cards forcing news organizations to surrender materie. ells related to pro-democracy candidates arresting the head of the popular apple daily jimmy lie

denying visas for no reasons to reporters critical of beijing just a few examples here freedom of the press is a casualty of the national security law you're very certain about the arrest of mr jim you lie mr. has been behind a major push ok to get foreign government involved in funding or position to be released in hong kong in my mind mr july it's not making positive contribution toward the country to a system all right i don't want to be the judge but i don't have any sympathy for him if he's arrested you may think here is a great democracy fighting. for a thing for democracy is one thing going to foreign government known for its sanctions to put pressure on baby jane or to act differently about hong

kong is something else they are basically violating their basic law the 1st article which is hong kong is part of china and you will never achieve mr team i'd like to ask you just briefly before we go claudio is an opposition lawmaker in hong kong said that the aim of china's national security legislation was to stun the hong kong into nothingness people will be so petrified so frightened so intimidated that they wouldn't dare say anything or do anything in opposition you have articulated here that you are one of the more liberal members of the probation camp you have sometimes spoken out against the government do you personally have to watch what you say how worried are you. let me be very honest with you i don't want to be personal about needs ok so please spare me from commenting about

my impression of josh korder law or in fact georgia law whatever. my honest opinion. is that yes there's been a tightening of freedom to express views particularly when it comes to hong kong. gaining some kind of a greater control over it so that's the neat right. nomination that anybody can nominate to run for chief executive. against basic law so all i'm saying is that anybody comes up with any kind of claim that goes against the basic law yes the freedom to express such views it's much less today than before because of a national security bill we have to get there that i agree michael thank you so

much for joining us on conflicts out.

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