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you know we're very improbable but. the creation of our solar system with our planet is a bit like winning the lottery there is a danger that the at. least earth. starts february 11th on t.w. . i've been thinking about the idea of flying cities for a long time as our planet circles the sun we humanity and all planetary species are travelling at a speed of 76000 miles an hour the idea of flying cities isn't really that utopian from a cosmic perspective if i told an astronaut about it he'd tell me what we're already flying.
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thomas said i said it was artworks explore the pressing issues of our times reflecting on how we can live more sustainable lives and use our resources more sparingly he's also interested in alternative means of travel and how art can inspire us to think outside the box. a little bit. i'm just. going to go over thank you. very much for the kind of q. . the argentinian performance and installation artist takes an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with scientific research into.
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situations like when he launched this experiment in bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. this is sad to say knows beilin studio where he plans and prepare as his many projects. satirist i know has always been fascinated by the interplay between art and science he studied art and architecture in argentina and then attended frankfurt's. art school on a scholarship he also took part in a nasa research project. has become an internationally sought after artist in part because his work ponders some of the most urgent questions we face today such as how can we shape our future and how much responsibility do we carry far actions. kimiko marcellus's for me who is to say no you might as well ask me about the some
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of the different parts what makes someone the course and they are or you but i want to know if i have the feeling we as humans tend to see ourselves as extraordinary as somehow superior to other species. but in reality we struggle to forge real relationships with other species or does it not real relationships founded on solidarity are essential to our progress this is. santa sena began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. that year he showcased his cloud cities project at butlins hamburger bought off gallery this project like so many others question the way we live as a society and in vision and new forms of human coexistence and community. his beilin show featured a network of cloud like that visitors could climb into what would it be night to a now. such
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a floating city to live and what was there. what matters to sara sena is that we realize that everything is interconnected that way just parts of a greater whole. since this does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility when we do you work more grow more companies or the inside of a lot of those who are i think responsibility can mean confronting certain problems and tonight you can see it going today we face pressing issues like global warming and then equality i want to live i mean don't know what they see we're lucky and but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet of whom
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one of them in sort of a get out of it but it's ok i don't think it is enough to see individual answers to these issues in either allowed to follow that we need global all encompassing answers as he moved book that's why i'm always looking to forge new alliances adopt new perspectives and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately need set up where you want to come here in new york and then there's a couple. in orton 2018 santa said no showcased his own ad installation at paris's laid to tokyo contemporary art when you get focused on the importance of and how we as a species live take this vital element. santo santo set up 76 spider webs to make. the add more tangible as it were spiders have
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inhabited the us to hundreds of millions of years and seems to spin their intricate web. by their webs were a starting point in your life have been fascinated by them for a very long time they are connected to the spiders they are a part of their body and you know low rider can only sense a small bug is near because of the vibrations it sends through the well. without the well but it could neither feel nor see its prey like it was most spiders that make webs are blind. by creating a web they're essentially creating their own sensory ability. in them to feel the world and other species around them. the installation translated the vibrations of spike his movements into o.d.s. signals creating a kind of ironic need symphony. here
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tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds the more people pass through this room the more the particles around the spine does register these movements and sounds creating a form of interaction between them under visitors. we . started with my obsession with spider webs so we set out making all kinds of them mocking our. technical you also invented a machine together with the technical university of darmstadt. they. brought my
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idea to life if you like the basically gnashing uses laser signals to we've entered that well so they're going to really they last move them because. they were no i mean if we were that got many academics interested in giving up until then i said nobody had managed to create such a detailed map of spider webs and the silicon valley my team and so i got i did buy the massachusetts institute of technology and max planck institute to get them to study spider webs and their surroundings to to better understand these creatures that they that i knew better than that i'm innocent and you know. 'd what they're hoping that on these letters along with spiders and spider webs and recently as they've played an important moment in his office holder what exactly fascinates me about them and when did this fascination start or tickle me so i
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thought oh how to him what will i always say you work with spiders i always say no spiders work with me merely because they've been here for more than 200000000 years so we can only learn from them not the other way around my work is almost anthropological an attempt to reconstruct today's image of what it means to be human in this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants i'm trying to redefine our relationship to those with whom we share the planet money. together with natural scientists sarah said now has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spiders and that behavior. i don't look at me supermajorities admit personally. what strikes me at my studio is that many people still suffer from a rag and a phobia a terrible fear of spiders and i mean it to you or separate it ok let's have it and when a people visit the studio and realize that it's largely a populated by spiders and. spider webs many of them grow uncomfortable these going
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forward. and we just in those i mean if we kept puppies or kittens here people would say oh what pretty kitties they don't usually do that when they see spiders. yet spiders are very different you must aim not only to differentiate between the various species but to see what unites spiders and what separates them from one another from the other to discover the co relationships and synergies between species think about a system when you come into one of the spider nets have a special symbolism because you see all these connections these threads which go from one side to the other and they figure that out so if you ask me what fascinates me most about spiders it's the special beauty of their webs no just a lawyer.
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in his installations which take up entire have rooms sadness and plays with the patterns and shapes found in his ideas website. visitors can even enter into a huge web and experience the world from a spider is destructive we're. an open open sort of with many of my works because i'm not thinking about the spectator yoga i'm also not thinking about the outside world which makes us feel foreign or different little who can with these words i'm trying to create something all encompassing for and that's why i like to work with really large surfaces if you move around on one side of this where the people on the other side move to when i move around i cause vibrations which influence the space that i need them in and the spiders respond. maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another which my work is about. adding these
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kinds of connections and going through out of the ok it's not just about seeing what's around us and i'm interested in interactions if there is i'm with him on a variety of levels and with different groups of people who know. what can we learn about ourselves from working with other species and does this change the way we deal with one another. sarah center doesn't aim to definitively ohmss such questions rather he uses his arts to get people thinking. and his work algorithms visitors and to an interactive network they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and others. seem quaint he employs many different disciplines in his art astrophysics engineering and biology he even explores musical composition with the help of
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spiders so why is this kind of into disciplinary work so important to have workers that important on the part of you think that context you're on basically 91 of these there are no doubt at all because it keeps opening up new worlds when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective you're missing out on all the other perspective the other ways of sensing reality or thinking about it it seems to me that these days we often forget about these other realities. is it prompts people to change their perspective and encourage dialogue sort of said always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and experts from a variety of disciplines. he wants art lovers to be open to gauge with a broad spectrum of finding is. one that's can't. should start as soon as imagination is humans long held fascination
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with flying. in our time the dream of white has turned into a nightmare that's due to the way we fly isn't it about the time we're flying is a total disaster because we're reliant on fossil fuels on lithium on batteries or other kinds of all materials expect to meet their extraction endangers the survival of many species. for we need to find new ways of making the notion of flying a possible dream again when knows. when we don't want to. send a senator has been experimenting with flying arrows solus sculpture at such a variety of locations around the globe. only by the song and carried only by the wind and the mabel flights without the consumption of
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fossil fuel a radical concept. this is how to mass that i say no started to become interested in the possibilities of a new. one he holds ara-c. the aerial iraq. with disinfectant then the muscle propelled him i think the term that best describes the era we're living in now is the capitalists i don't see the age of rampant capitalism. the era seen as an epoch of hope and age which is radically different from the capital of scene. i think i'm into the. eye. does everything that changes our habits but not the climate. helps to usher in
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a new era the moving one we call the era seen. an aerial age and the era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another and of the environment and work together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this iraq. thomas said us a nose area seen projects requires a radical rethink on our part to enduring natural resources rising emissions climate change and the extinction of many species destroying the very basis of our life on us. air is seen places as not human beings at the center of. protecting not polluting the element that keeps us alive is its main goal a way of making amends to mother or us while that may sound like a utopian ideal sad to say no and his team have already proven that some of their
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ideas work in the real world. in argentina the era seen foundation team is already set several world records among them the 1st manned fully solar free flight with a hot air balloon it reached a height of 272 meters covered 1.7 kilometers and was airborne for over an hour. the teams next goal is to be able to transport several people at once powered only by the sun's ultraviolet rays and fulfilling the dream of emissions free travel. on the saloon and on this earth will put on these sculptures rise up with the 1st thing people say is there how can that be it's mesmerizing and a magical moment here proof of the book suddenly the sculpture in turn is and there's something on it that was written by another person who is it is so me it's like an onion the more layers you peel away the more questions arise as to how these things appear sort of course because it was a. we
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just got back from argentina and we were working a lot with indigenous communities there they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment. that there is lithium mining going on in their territories. argentina chile and bolivia border the area where the so-called white gold is being mined he said. and for every ton of lithium we know that 2000000 liters of water are required. there are $71.00 kilos of lithium and one tesla this is an area already plagued by drought. if we start to excavate lithium to satisfy the consumerism of today's capitalist society everyone who lives on the edge of the the salt flats will die. along with the animals and the vegetation there and the communities who live there will be forced to leave. school was in pain or that's why we are asking how can we
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change our habits so that it doesn't lead to climate change. what kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium you know. we can't wait for everyone to agree air travel will have to be very different in the future. sadder center's project has become a global movement artists scientists designers and activists have joined the ara scene foundation that he set up. a community. it's one that comes together and engages in regular.
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in the present moment i like the thought of a community that works like a collective and. that's why we have established 2 foundations in ophelia one of them is called iraq now feeling. like arachnophobia its members are friends to spiders and their webs it is a nonprofit organization that is working to save certain ecosystem and the kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio. to this community is researching how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms. is a 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio is called aero seem to consist of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people who are pursuing it as a hobby there are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not
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just by changing individual mobility but by founding a movement for change. and the era seeing community have developed an explorer in collaboration with mit and the red cross it enables anyone to build a floating explorer sculpture and calculate its flight path and flight generation via e. source software each flight gathers data about air quality temperature humidity and pressure which is fed back into the software giving us more a more information about our planet and what set a cent oh kohls it's highways in the sky like the jet stream for instance. kerosene is an open invitation to everyone who is fighting for a future free field and dreaming of a new kind of boundless borderless made. slogan is from home. to homo from town to. for me
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art always means an art dialogue or an exchange one that for example the art involving the spiders and spiders weber's. we have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world clearly. the categories that exists today tend to separate us from one another rather than to unite us. it seems to me that art can help us in this process of one way if a new heart has this ability this generosity or this innocence is that putting those in our you continue to search with childlike innocence and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world with other eyes for what he . said to say no is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the wild he said that he can better understand our planet and of course most. all of. those. projects in the event
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horizon has taken him to the new uni's salt flats in bolivia the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. and. is going to. be there in the early hours of the morning a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats and for just a few moments the horizon looks as if it has been ever. the surface of the earth forms a giant mirror of the universe that surrounds us 'd it's a fascinating meditative phenomena and. you can even see reflections of light emitted by the large magnetic cloud and neighboring universe 163000.
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that if we show sort of reflection about the future is of central significance. what plans does he have for his own future. what of the impulse of a new benefit we're going to do of course a little 100 more when he was my plans for the future are to continue working as we have done recently and they found at the same time to increasingly question the logistics of the art industry the transport of artwork and my own mobility christians who are from and to consider alternative ways for us artists to be present or if if we become conscious of our planet and its atmosphere then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board the co passengers in our world that there are many that we need to consider how we can continue this journey together and what or who deceived you. i mean all rise to what's going on here and now. it's also
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an invitation to engage with bunning question about off each. one a little can i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who we province will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people. and if we can already fly at an altitude of up to 272 meters for almost 2 hours and then i hope that in the future you'll be able to travel to interview me from colombia for example without your having to take a plane i was at the lesson but the journey is the destination the journey we will often lose our way on this journey but we will continue on with enthusiasm and hope for any a it becomes a. bomb
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was fishing when i arrived here i slept with 6 people in a room. it was hard. i even got white hair that. learning the german language head you know a lot this gives me a little push maybe to in truck loads of say you want to know their story. it's worth fighting and reliable information for margaret. it's about billions. get about our work. it's about the foundation of a new world order. the silk road. china one. to expand its influence with his trade network and so on the conflicts are typical the
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consequences unpredictable taking a look of the shaking the chinese state has a modest money at its disposal to push it and that's how it's expanding and asserting its status and position in the war on the face of the bondholders. china he's promising its partners rich profits but in europe there's a sharp mornings you could never accept money from the new superpower will become dependent on. china's gateway to europe. starts feb 19th on the job.
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