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it was the night of september the night when refugee camp morea on the creek and he went on flags on the farms produce started by people driven by just one wish to get out. the following day large parts of europe's largest refugee camp play in ruins. what was the reason for the fire. the movie as an estate guest and moria hasn't just recently become a problem in movie the conditions in the camp had been a problem for 4 and a half 1000000 a fire like that was foreseeable for has not been many jim. city's
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citizens demanded that refugees from syria be taking they called upon politicians to put a stop to the humanitarian catastrophe on the greek islands. thanks. to the people stranded here have placed all their faith in europe actually does europe have an answer. the question needs to free and we cannot be content with our european migration policy to get we don't really have one of the zionist was the what the e.u. has delivered to date is an absolute disgrace to european values arm silly absolute obscene. september 2023 days after flames engulfed morea thousands of huddled on the streets outside a discount supermarket we're looking for fire you can she's only 11 and has spent
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the last year with her parents and 2 siblings in the morea refugee camp like most people here she and her family fled afghanistan now after the fire they don't have everything that they had. the camps residents take to the street they want freedom they want out. the police try to contain the situation but it's battles out of control it said the stones were thrown the police respond with teeth gas. they fired tear gas even at the small children their eyes were full of tears. now the nosedive family 2 adults 3 children are on the straight. and gentlemen everything was on fire in front of us behind us there was no way out. we haven't had anything to eat for the last 2 or. 3 nights we're all hungry there's no clean
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water we drink dirty water at night the children cry out they're so hungry mommy give us something to eat. but no food no water the strategy of the greek authorities they are intentionally starving his refugees to force them into the new camp that's being set up. nearly half the people here the children. most from afghanistan few are from syria or africa. mohamed where are you going after the camp why. did you know they say there is food there. i don't know what it was like a. like many the north family has suffered an exhausting journey to get he 4 years ago they fled from afghanistan to iran finally get could only piece of illegal
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schools his father was deported 3 times when he placed all his hard on your example for. he's the one who brought us here. now he regrets it. like the us is that there's nothing we can do. we've been here for over 12 months one year nothing has happened things have only grown worse you know that. right now i can't go back to afghanistan i was in danger there. and iran things were very bad for us afghans on our feet. after the fire the villages the morea trying to regain their stride mariette mahdi ellis witnessed the fire 100 of her all of trees burned down that night to her and amidst loss. lost ours.
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because we fear. my opinion is that it's better to close camp i think so that. it will be not a prison to new camp it's now also in view of restaurant. 5 years family is down the parched and starving even though they feel they won't be let back out they venture into the air. after the fire destroyed the 1st camp many refugees hoped they could leave the island to continue their journey towards a better future. instead a new camp is set up many feel afraid and the facilities are even worse than before . clara anna
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burger is a german lawyer who spent years fighting for refugees rights on the greek islands the apparently been quick to find in pairs or you receive reports from people on the site saying there are very limited water resources and i meant only one meal a day and it is almost and after in addition the people are stuck behind barbed wire and it is it all moved and basically the situation is even less now than it was even more a year and more yes. but now the e.u. wants to turn over a new page 2 weeks after the fire the e.u. commission introduced a new pact for migration and asylum in brussels it was designed to end years of bickering among e.u. member states. for years previously european governments had already attempted to reach an agreement on how to handle the crisis with no success. countries like hungary rejected any obligation to take in refugees. or johansson he's
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the european commissioner for home affairs as the politician responsible for the new pact she calls for a measured approach. of course it's natural to be emotional because you talk about people as human beings and then many of them are in a crisis situation and of course it is good that you have emotions towards people in a crisis but just solve the problem and to be able to find a political solution i think that we should try not to dramatize migration i think that's really part of the problem we have seen too many drama queens in this debate actually and i think that we should be a little bit more sober and pragmatic. and so the proposal is full of technicalities it calls for a maximum of 5 days screening at the e.u. out of border during which security and identity checks are to be conducted in most
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cases this is to be followed by a fast asylum procedure within 12 weeks. member states unwilling to take in refugees are instead obligated to support the process of returning rejected asylum seekers to their country of origin no state is to be obliged to take refugees in. but it remains unclear if these provisions are enough to bring the skeptics in budapest warsaw and prague into line. the basic approach is still on changed because they would like to many age the migration and not stop the migrants that's different kind of approach the steel on that the bank saying hold to manage a while though i agree. we are very you parliamentarian balazs he'd vaguely from hungary's ruling party says the proposal doesn't go far enough the real
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breakthrough would be if the commission had said that illegal migration must be stopped altogether. and they didn't say there so let's see what the negotiations will bring our position together with a number of other countries. have been clear i think. but even those willing to take refugees in a skeptical e.u. parliamentarian teaneck a street from the netherlands green party says the new regulations won't really change anything what is very clear is that the biggest obstacles that we face now will remain an important ups there is the principle of the rule of the current up there regulation that the 1st member states were the asylum seeker and there's europe is responsible for the application and for the whole procedure and this will stay. in practical terms that means that countries along the mediterranean such as greece and italy will still shoulder the biggest burden and the past years
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have already shown that this approach doesn't work migration expert. from the european stability initiative also has his doubts. just. it's smart and sensible to aim for a faster asylum hearings for anyone arriving at the end user orders but if you don't look at the why that hasn't worked in the greek islands in the past or ask yourself what's missing if you keep tuning that out and simply insist on faster hearing it then the next attempts will fail just as much as the previous attempts have then people will once again be trapped in camps for months and conditions will say as bad as they have been. there are 5 such camps on the greek islands on less bo's chios say most liberals and course they're all just a stone's throw from the turkish coast at the height of the crisis nearly $42000.00
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refugees were stuck there waiting for their hearing. when the corona pandemic began in early 2020 the morea camp unless both was placed under quarantine 20000 people locked up in a camp designed for 2800 inhabitants spoke of heightened aggression fights and stabbings it was a good advantage for the us they weren't allowed to leave the camp when the authorities started building fences around moria the inhabitants panicked that panic they fear they were being imprisoned in addition to being in lockdown to this list so didn't look down. food was in short supply as were blankets heaters electricity some had been living here for almost 2 years they felt that europe had forgotten them. in munched 2020
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several e.u. member states offered to take in a mere 1600 unaccompanied minors and other vulnerable individuals out of the camps one month later the 1st migrants travelled to. luxemburg and germany to understand the idea behind camps like moria and how they even came to be built we need to look back at 2015. if back then hundreds of thousands of people headed west for europe. they were fleeing from the wars that had destroyed their homes in syria iraq and afghanistan. the situation in refugee camps in neighboring countries had become unbearable.
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if we didn't look pretty good so i don't find it looking back at 2015 i think it's important to point out that that year was a complete exception to the norm as the middle man from figure on the floor of the mediterranean hadn't seen anything like it for the past 50 years of things cut us off that's because the world's largest refugee crisis in decades had unfolded right in front of europe's gay flight into an opossum thing from that perspective it's a bit unprofessional to say we are preparing ourselves for the next time a 1000000 people come our way them out of anonymity and there won't be another $1000000.00 migrants within a year in the forseeable future it's recent new ever claims there will be is just trying to stoke up fear and that steers the debate in the wrong direction. for years germany to had opposed the distribution of refugees among a huge number states citing the dublin regulation that made the country of a rival responsible for incoming refugees. then in 2015 chancellor merkel
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decided to let hundreds of thousands into the country for humanitarian reasons. to doubt survey does. the vast majority of people in germany are still willing to take an refugees and other vulnerable individuals. but you have to go after them and i think that shows that a large percentage of the population does not consider this to be a disaster. but even back then merkel's decision of vote mixed emotions in europe. i really admired america by taking that initiative and making clear also to other member states we should do that we should offer protection to refugees and it's really to blame for the other member states to shy away and leave for america alone with her attitude. many blamed brussels the not creating european consensus on how to deal with refugees but the root of the problem lies much deeper hungary took
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a different approach its government stated they would not tolerate the e.u. or fellow member states dictating terms to them and forcing them to take in refugees the. mass migration can change a country in a number of ways in a relatively short time it can change it socially it can change of culturally stickley etc you cannot force upon economic migration and mass on on countries countries and people have to have the liberty to say yes or no question hungary respects other member states who may wish to live with mass migration and want to work hundreds of thousands millions of people coming here and it's their decision but we expect a very also respect our decision. in the german state of north rhine-westphalia thousands of refugees arrived in the fall of 2015 in the city of dortmund or the
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railway station to sold off airport. people and just it all for so eager to help at 1st we couldn't even engage all the people offering their help and i kept telling them to please bear in mind this was a marathon not a sprint. and that's when it most likely still need the help in a few years and it was challenging for all of us but we knew we were doing the right thing is to get. other european countries also open their doors to refugees but most some 900000 came to germany but it needs germany's open arms other voices could also be heard. the earth the loudest were right wing groups protesting predominantly against muslim refugees since then many european politicians have feared these movements could attract more followers the foreign policy spokes person of the c.d.u. c.s.u. parliamentarian group is you again hot he knows just how sensitive the subject of
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refugees is in his circles yes and that was yesterday someone turned to me and said that we really needed to be careful with how we dealt with refugees to make sure we didn't get into the same situation as last time he was scared of being branded as right wing simply for worrying about the refugee situation he doesn't sympathize with the right wing and has no issues with foreigners or people in need he just wanted everything handled in an orderly fashion and i think that's an opinion well worth being a hurry to. in order to reduce the number of migrants entering the e.u. several states took action bit by bit the so-called balkan route was closed making it harder to reach the e.u. via turkey on dry land. in september 25th dane hungary closed its border to serbia in march 26th game other countries including slovenia and croatia followed suit. maybe so-called hold spots had already been set up in
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italy and greece they were designed to identify and register refugees directly at the e.u. border where they could then proceed with their asylum hearing. morea on less boss was one such hot spot. for him and not let on for instance of it and retrospect it's a lot when fundamentally wrong in 2015 but the hot spots on the greek islands were supposed to act as distribution centers and hopefully they were meant to enable rapid processing new comers were to be registered quickly and distributed within member states staton. but this did not happen and in march 26th again to deter more new arrivals the e.u. struck a deal with turkey where several 1000000 refugees were stuck in transit the main idea was that turkey was to stop these people from finding their way into the e.u. . anyone who wrongfully entered greece from turkey would be
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sent back. for every refugee return to this way one syrian refugee living in turkey would be allowed to enter the e.u. . in return turkey was promised free visas for all its citizens and fresh association talks with the e.u. along with 6000000000 euros but the deal was only successful in parts of anyone's fragments going to land in us the if we ask ourselves what we can learn from the e.u. turkey declaration then i think the answer is i'm supporting refugees and a 3rd country you know the 6000000 out of paying out 6000000000 euros for syrians in turkey significantly lower the number of syrians trying to enter the e.u. irregularly find that part worked. what didn't work has now become our main
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challenge and i do also for them although the numbers were low although one year after the deal in april 27th only 6000 people were waiting on the greek islands for a decision on their applications hiding it as we still couldn't manage to process them quickly. and if i had this vision that was mostly a question of political will and a strategy of the greek authorities and. as your other guest editor john. these created dire conditions in the camps and international dilemma. in april 26th seen the pope visited list post to offer comfort to those stranded on the island back then many had already been waiting for months for a decision on their asylum application today waiting periods can extend to over a year is this by design in these or do in this case there's only one explanation for why people are still stuck on the island deterrents it is a legitimate illegal and immoral to instrumental lies human beings as
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a means to that end because of. the fight. we face this is more in october the 2019 the camp director really a lone journalist to see how the refugees were living so we filmed with a hidden camera to see for ourselves what the situation was really like. that. i was. we met fi you get a mohammad by chance i had just arrived 3 days ago and was still new to it all shouted a sad sad yesterday was very cold and we didn't have any blankets at night we switched locations. that afternoon cleared out or not so we spent the night by the wayside then it started to rain so we moved to the larger camp where the african stay confident that if we didn't want to come here our parents did for us. this is
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where they slept the past nights right next to the entrance there's a sleeping hierarchy at the camp newcomers have to make do with mats then they can graduate to a tent with often 4 families in one finally they can move up to a container with 15 people together. was this is where they are. not for food they have to wait 3 times a day many go hungry the new arrivals don't receive any cash for the 1st 6 months so they have no choice but to line up you know. financially this is a smelly toilets to. say this is the state of our hygiene and if we see a doctor because we have a cold he tells us to drink water. then and this have that's why we don't want to come you know the ones and they say the key one is a very far away man it's my parents accompany me to the toilets and such it's still dangerous. we see how these
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children we see how these children their mental condition deteriorates. and they attempt suicide if they have self harming tendencies. on top of that so on the minute they completely stop relating to each other. you know each other their childhood is taken away from them and we see their parents as well they have lost hope completely. they have an incredible sense of guilt for having brought their children to europe. as good as they had hoped this would be a safe place that would provide education. and then they have to cope with the reality of the morea candidate where none of this is available for them. and they fall into a total depressive state so the. parents and children and she didn't across the valley lost the small village. some 1000 people live here alongside they knew.
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what used to be empty streets and now life may. opinions in moria are polarized few can still agree. that yesterday they took our cable right out of the ground they stole my animals and slaughtered them and they've ruined everything i suppose we're expected to leave to make room for them i doubt there is any other way that's the problem we can't stand it here anymore should i or myself and take to the streets and they've taken everything from a dysfunctional fiance to the one because these people have rights even mention of they're in pain they've lost their homes i'm on the side if this isn't their fault and there are others who are to blame. to make it to europe many willing to risk their lives in persian they say we're playing the game it's like the hunger games if they lose the game they lose their lives. their whatever and some new
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refugees have just arrived they played the game and made it this far and to be in turkey we were crammed in a delivery van and they didn't fit in my music just this time they played the game and now they're in the bus that i went into was with. bealefeld in westphalia in 2015 some 6000 refugees were taken in here. their fun was just 12 when he made his way to germany from afghanistan through turkey and greece he traveled alone without any relatives he was born in iran he hasn't seen his mother in 5 years she too is on the run and has been trapped on less boss for about a year with her 2 small daughters he looks at their pictures every day
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says will stick around it's long she didn't know how long it would take. well he thought she'd be able to continue on to germany so she thought it would take about a month maybe 5. she also witnessed the fire in moria on the 8th of september this was a sure it was awful she grabbed my 2 sisters and ran out of everything else all their clothes and belongings and it all burned so but and. christine naaman from the aid organization by its cries helps reunite families but it's not easy feel thora sees examine each case very carefully some parents deliberately send their children ahead to germany alone in the hopes of being allowed to follow in funds case greece has now issued a takeover request. the german government the federal office for migration and
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refugees has rejected greece's request they argue that this is not a case of hardship as separation from your family apparently does not constitute don chipp case. we definitely want to challenge this decision before courts and we've already requested an injunction with our local court of claims we want the court to rule that the author already is responsible for reuniting the family must do so. we hope it will. be sure this is i want to be able to help my mother's best and when we come. and us them i can't i don't know what i'll do. sure in a minute i just want to help my mother of us and i hope her application is processed faster and that she'll be allowed to come to germany to snow. and indeed the oath or t's do give their consent 3 days after speaking with their
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phone we received word that his mother and sisters have been allowed to come to germany. that. their fury is freezing cold so too in moria fire grandma hammad has been in the camp for 5 months now i'm fine did you say paul right the ship was cold last night. what did you do. said i used several blankets otherwise it's too cold. fake his father comes to gracious. how would you know. there was a commotion at 4 in the morning that woke us up it wasn't like somebody had cut the front flap of a neighbour's tent open and was trying to get in. or that they were in the hospital. tents being slit open muggings robberies the
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desperate stealing from the destitute it happens almost every night in a camp where 40 percent of the inhabitants the children decide security hygiene is another issue. they don't leave their parents don't leave the tents at night not even for the toilet because they're scared of being assaulted by gangs. this is the life that people are living instead of going to a toilet using diapers or using a plastic bottles a lot of people instead of going to authority using diapers or using a plastic bottle german doctor since is from sun an is a voluntary an aid worker he tends to find a family medical treatment is an exception to the rule here but is the government have any doctors here in these in the area that is not in this camp you know it is
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the center for disease prevention send the doctors to give new arrivals preliminary check out of the store but it's basically to make sure they still have. those kind of tortoises. but even if their bodies survive the ordeal it's nearly impossible not to succumb to the psychological strain that weighs on adults and children alike . while the children argue a lot. that means. they yell. so the grown ups are frustrated in the children get into fights. exactly even before the fire there were plans for a new camp out in the middle of nowhere. to house 78000 people and to replace morea many locals wouldn't have it then if you like just our islands are not some prison for lost souls there are people who want to live their lives but the refugees will destroy everything here. it's going to be
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a long battle but i think we will win it. shortly after the battle over the new camp again some locals tried stopping refugees from even reaching the island of los boss they confronted aid organizations blocked the streets to moria when u.n.h.c.r. camp went up in flames run amid all the chaos thousands of children including 5 a mohammed is there anything good here. no no scenes do you see anything good here . i don't think the party in iceland they saw in their vacations on these islands. the fed oh you might like it but we don't you can come and go as you please we have to stay and i. think i wanted to go to athens. but on and what's there things are good there they
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say no fighting. it's been 5 months since the new family has arrived and they still haven't been heard athens is like a faraway train meanwhile the new government there has tightened asylum regulations anyone arriving after january 2020 receives a decision within one month one out of 2 applications from afghanistan are approved but anyone who finally makes their way from his boss to athens will most likely end up here in victoria park many sleepier according to the new asylum nor approved asylum seekers are provided food and shelter for 30 days after that they're on their own how can you survive with a newborn baby in a public park i had only been here for over a month now it's a broken life in this heat we can't find an apartment it's too expensive but are
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not fun at the. creases government seems to be operating under the assumption the recognized refugees will continue further north even though that would be illegal hardly any want to stay in greece anyway and the poor conditions in the islands are meant to deter others to live in these living in moria makes you depressed absolutely. what does that mean depressed. you lose your mind. in late february 2020 tensions at the turkish greek border mounted and turkish president into one opened the border. that's just for coming on and that completely backfired the greek government responded with an iron fist you know it suspended the right to seek asylum which is a basic human right for several weeks and it violently forced people back over the
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border it gives to be granted sort of. the. grease sealed off the border and lift downs and of migrants stranded on the other side. of the region that you don't want from this you at the beginning of this year the greek government decided to close the border despite the fact that area one was using thousands of people as a bargaining chip and it's thought that shows that we need to demonstrate strength that the extra mile border keeping the aspect of human rights in the back of our minds and we need to show that we won't let air go on blackmail us as well as even the from the other on a place in the us and. then some 6 months later on september 8th morea went up in flames. throughout germany people took to the streets to demand more refute g.'s be taken in including in cologne dusseldorf villa failed and other cities in north
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rhine-westphalia. i don't think we are treating them fairly we are so privileged and we have the means to help but we don't. really need to make clear that we are ready to take in refugees view has plenty of room handlin well off. of course we need a european solution but if germany doesn't lead the way who will follow this is all that got me. the city of cologne office to take in 150 p. . will other cities and towns also offer help. is also willing to take another 150 people. they've had time to gather experience with helping refugees since 2015. of them in the community accommodation facilities currently have several 100 spots available now on a completely empty but all of them can make room for several more we can take in
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individual us as well as families of the un's either but if i were to be told that we had to take in several 100 people today we could mobilize enough resources at short notice to actually fit them all in one as long as there isn't a european wide solution and i don't think there's any insight then each municipality should be allowed to decide how many they take we have been saying for a year is that we can handle more refugees that are but minister palaces aren't allowed to make that decision without approval from germany's interior minister and he doesn't want germany going it alone. if we do that then you can say goodbye to a european solution and in this new you are in the past years i kept hearing the same remark in brussels from other member states they say this is our problem and we shouldn't be bothering them with our problems or in 3 months. one day after the fire 400 miners are flown from les pauls to the greek mainland 10
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european countries have announced that they're willing to take them in germany will take in 150 but this had already been agreed upon before the fire. meanwhile the endless arguing between member states continues. hungary and austria the north inspired when germany announces it will take in some $400.00 refugee families from less boss once again there is some chinese and humanitarian aid will simply create new incentives for more people to come to europe. and. if we really did work together with the greek government to get people off the greek islands and bring them into europe i'm sure the camps would fill right back up again. that would create a so-called pull effect fic and send the wrong message to other refugees that. basically we'd be telling them that if they ever managed to reach a greek island it would only be
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a matter of time before they'd be in hamburg or. mentions it as of india and packing those less bills so if we just take a few kids out of lesbos then some european governments think that each single child could be the incentive for another 1000000 people to come on. that's ridiculous. the only thing europe a green zone is that rejected asylum seekers should be deported. the up to those who have been rejected must leave that's the vast majority of people arriving at our accidental borders. then the citizens of europe will be happy to welcome those in need that way we can stand up to right wing populism 2nd if we can assure citizens that the people coming in are true refugee community 50 years. but many attempts at repatriation fail because the countries of origin
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not willing to take these people back. found the it's now it's the past years have taught us that europe can only manage to deport those obliged to leave the country in large numbers when the countries we depend on for cooperation are made an attractive offer was attractive is because men. within the e.u. will manage to pass the new pact on migration and asylum will depend on its member states but they are as far away from reaching a consensus as they were 5 years ago. and when it comes to migration 5 years of agonizing debate have shown that there's nothing left to say all that's left now to be honest is different sides insisting they were right who made the right call in 2015 those who wanted to close the borders or those who wanted to show humanity simply i hope we will manage to cut through this gordian knot and admit that both sides have valid points and we were in a situation where this migration policy has been blocked for several years and that
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in my view means that those that have the lowest ambition on migration has actually been able to set a standard and we are paying a price for the trust between member states who are paying a price when it comes to solidarity between member states and migrants are paying a price for the idea behind moria has failed but what will happen with the hotspots if the e.u. migration pact is passed i'm afraid we will be faced with moreas even more rios in other places maybe even other border area. yes of the european union as long as this solidarity principle is not really sorted our a-t. and i think therefore we will be stuck in this situation of in human situations and very long and insecure waiting periods. is there any way to solve
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this how. poor and under to convincing hungary poland and other governments that have no interest in finding a solution isn't going to help either their news on not only or will it serve germany's interests. venti if the german government were to say now that irregular migration has slowed more than it has in many years i feel we could build a coalition with other countries to show us how it's done in the dusk if you and we could implement our goals quite quickly to fictional ford it would inspire others to join and that would be a truly european approach and for that's how the shang in zone or the euro came about this was that that's how the european community came to be in 1950 it was founded by a group of countries that got together to solve a common problem. but until we reach that point it seems there's still a long way ahead of us meanwhile the catastrophe in moria continues despite fires
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