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gigantic coincidence. that sam previously the earth was just in a mess the chemistry lab up on me. where the improbable but. the truth of the creation of our solar system with our planet is a bit like winning the lottery the day after so. many firsts. starts feb 11th on t.w. . are you telling me that you would go ahead with a strike on iran what do you think we are going to do pray know we are going to be freddoso during the trial president triumph with an amazing scene if the administration made clear that settlements are legal there is no work your patience . there is a palestinian authority that has its own life an independent many countries are
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watching anxiously to see how the new u.s. administration will reset relations with them after 4 years of donald trump and especially in israel which is bracing for a cold wind is blowing its way from washington my guest this week from jerusalem is the community affairs minister sakhi how made me how well his government reacts to joe biden's new policy on iran and his waning tolerance for the expansion of jewish settlements. and their very welcome to comfort zone thank you joe biden was barely inside the white house before you the israeli minister for community affairs publicly criticized his intention to rework the nuclear agreement with iran and labeled him an appeaser why pick a fight with your closest ally we definitely need
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a new agreement. with iran with. all the countries involved but we are very much against repeating the same mistake that was done by a previous administration during obama's time which was a very bad agreement both for the world and $30.00 so negotiating a new agreement with something there must be. current. the result should be different from the 1st time my question is how does that serve the interests of your country accusingly a bomb a ministration in which biden served as vice president of appeasing iran well it's not a secret that we were very much. opposing obama's policy the prime minister and how appeared physically in the american congress explaining why it's
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a big mistake and the mistake was the effort to appease the iranians hoping that this policy of engagement would bring them. to be part is president obama to be part of the family of nations well it didn't happen 5 years passed we still see the same behavior the same terrorism encouraged the same indorsement of radical groups in lebanon. iraq syria and also yemen so this is the major problem we have to change the policy and it has to happen through a dialogue between israel and the united states yeah but you also warned that if mr biden revives this nuclear deal israel would be forced to attack iran's nuclear
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installations is this what you're saying do you imagine you can stage an operation like that without close coordination with the u.s. well of course violent confrontation is the last resort are you telling me that you would go ahead israel would go ahead with a strike on iran without the sign off by the united states that you do it on your own. without consulting the u.s. again again i do not predict and i cannot predict what's going to happen i hope that the american administration the state the permanent members of the security council state will be much more determined and resolve than ever before will not change the regime of the sanctions that was initiated by trumpet administration will go forward putting maximum pressure on iran to change
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its behavior if it's not going to go if there will be a new agreement that will endanger the very existence of the state of israel what do you think we are going to do pray no we are going to defend ourselves in any way that will be effective you seem to ignore the fact that iran is still observing some of the terms of the j c p a a deal including allowing u.n. inspectors access on the one of the most intrusive nuclear verification regimes imposed on any nation also snap inspections doesn't that isn't that worth holding on to or do you want to just scrap the whole thing you know the green man was definitely not violated by iran for a long time they were working according to the agreement because it's their interest they want. to be valid to the very last
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2nd of its term yes actually i don't know which door until your friend donald trump the middle give iran the deal no we don't have problem with iran letting their agreement donald trump would withdraw from the agreement iran would stay and follow every paragraph. to kill the end of the agreement this is the criticism that we have we have the agreement is very good if it never expires it's very bad because it will expire eventually several years what we demand is an agreement that is not only good for iran because once it is expired they have the digital mysie to enrich uranium and to reach a nuclear weapon we want an agreement that will be the same agreement but for 50 years 100 years this is our demand iran has said it has no intention of
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acquiring a nuclear weapon you don't believe them but why should anyone believe you the government your government and its prime minister has a long history of crying wolf i've been shown ever on this has been going on for almost 30 years we remember in 1902 mr netanyahu solemnly predicting that iran was 3 to 5 years away from having a nuclear weapon what happened without what happened is that through the years united nations security council made several resolutions banning iran from going forward with its elicit progress more and more facilities were revealed. each and every one of them was illegal was not. being. allowed by the international community the one in the towns the one in the 401 in 4 do all those are secret facilities that we found in the world found that are being
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established but we've seen your warnings year after year after year you were warning about iraq as well in 2002 that was your target netanyahu went to congress warning that saddam hussein was hell bent on achieving atomic bombs as soon as he could they still haven't found those atomic bombs are that and then there was this famous famously and accurate prediction from him that if you take out saddam saddam's regime i guarantee you it was have enormous positive reverberations on the region that was nonsense too so you don't have a good record in your predictions coming true do you i think that you're totally wrong because america and president biden just weren't several days ago that they are going to prevent iran from having a nuclear program and the whole world knows that iran is dedicated to achieving a. weapon of mass destruction it's not an invention. the fact that it was prevented through the years due to various activities that were taken by the whole world
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especially the sanctions of president obama there get his term now trumps sanctions so i don't think there's any doubt that iran is trying to build the bomb it's not even something that is in dispute mr nick may let's talk about israel and the palestinians mr mr biden is already calling for a hold to what he calls unilateral actions including israeli settlement activity in the west bank and demolition of palestinian homes are you going to do is he asks i haven't heard any anything from the american administration the new ministration about. the policy of the united states for many many years was against settlements but during the time of president it was an amazing shift it was an historic change and for the 1st time the history of your relationship with our
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best ally united states ministration made clear that settlements are illegal and they are not preventing peace on the contrary without was just a trump card illustration saying that that was just a trump an illustration of mr biden's nominee for you know an ambassador has said that he's already calling for a halt to unilateral actions including israeli settlement activity in the west bank and demolition of palestinian homes so there's obviously a change in underway here my question is are you going to do is mr biden asks i'm not aware of you know there are many ambassadors but there is a president and there is a congress that's public opinion. in our experience the majority of the people in the congress republicans and democrats alike understand that israel is into the anthem area because this is our. actually land this is our homeland we're not your
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answer is no so your answer is no you're not going to do as mr biden asks you're not going to do what he asked you're not going to hold settlement activity and stop the demolition of malice tinian homes no unfortunately my answer is the truth not no or yes again i'm telling you i haven't heard any change in the policy of president vis a vis the settlements if there is going to be such. a change you'll be very sad but we will have a dialogue with our friends in the administration for now the american understand that israel is in today and somalia because it's our land and this is why trump made. peace initiative calling for accepting all the settlements where they are never uprooting jewish settlements into the anthem area if mr biden will change the policy of the united states will have a dialogue with him but i don't think that if it's realistic to think that it's
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going to happen mr haneke may as for the demolition of palestinian homes by november last year you had demolished nearly $700.00 palestinian structures more than in any other full year since 2016 some of the buildings you destroyed it actually been donated as humanitarian assistance was it of no concern to you that 869 palestinians this last year have been thrown out onto the streets homeless in the year that kovac 19 took root and spread like wildfire do you do either know or care what happened to these people who were turfed out into the street. well there are millions of jews and millions of palestinians living together in in the land of israel i'm talking to the people who have run out of their homes pyotr militias i had the stand and they say what you talk about and i ask you to let me
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answer please so there are millions of jews and millions of palestinians living in this country 99.9 percent of them live in their homes and nobody throws them from their homes once there is an illegal building or community or any other infrastructure that is not according to the israeli low with the most it it happens to jews and it happens to palestinians and i can name you and i'm sure you do know of illegal settlements that israel demolished in the grown in better open in a far more now i just named you 4 places where the supreme court in israel made an order to demolish the houses of israelis jews who were living in those homes they were kicked out of their homes they were uprooted from places they were
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living in for many many years but mr ahmed big numbers are not known for bold the numbers are not comparable to a human rights group your human rights group b'tselem pointed out that since 1967 israel has dispossessed palestinians of more than 2000 square kilometers on various pretexts and in violation of international law you've built over 280 settlements in the west bank for more than 600000 jewish citizens so you build a lot for jews and you tossed palestinians out into the streets. well i beg to differ i think that every decision is. made after the trial after the court decision you know the israeli court is very much. affective and honest and has a reputation all over the world so every decision that is being made is being ruled
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after a court decision so i am i really believe that everything that is being done is totally legal and according to international law and israel you know well that's certainly disputed by large numbers of the international community and all the human rights groups let's talk about the normalization deals that you have with some of the arab states the u.s. the united arab emirates and bahrain last summer you referred to these deals and you said maybe this will convince the palestinians that it's time for them to do whatever the u.a.e. are willing to do to see israelis not as enemies but as friends you want the palestinians to be friends with the people who have consistently demolished homes and built on occupied land in violation of international law and that right
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well you keep repeating using. fake news israel is in the dance a martyr which you. call the west bank but this is the death of my bible it's not something that was invented by you or me and into that somalia which exists for 33800 years the jewish people is building its life once again it was never before and stayed there only occupiers and we came back to our homeland we are eager to have peace with the palestinians we are ready for them to have their independence in any way that does not. jeopardize our very existence they start negotiating with israel in 2046 years now they are not ready to enter a room and to sit with us and to try. to reach an agreement which is
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something that the u.a.e. did and bahrain did and morocco did and sudan did so this is exactly what i said if the palestinians would follow the arab countries that are now in peace with israel and will reach an agreement they will gain from it but millions somehow it they're reluctant to do it they're losing from it well it's not exactly a comparable situation is a because the us and bahrain haven't lived under occupation for 53 years and when it comes to judea and samaria what we call the west bank your own supremes court has ruled that you are holding that area in belligerent occupation they say nothing about your right to the land which you talk about polygyny an occupation you want the palestinians to be friends with the people who have imposed this polygynous occupation on them so the last 53 years is hardly comparable to the situation of the u.a.e. in bahrain is it again my friend these are not affected in 994 reach an agreement
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with the palestinians which. stablished a palestinian authority. which is not under our occupation it has a problem and it has a constitution it has an army it has elections every time they want to have elections they have embassies more than israel all over the world we don't occupy them we don't really tell them what to do they have their own independence in so many ways and they mentions an area but still we need to reach the. final arrangements for the way we will live with this tunnel me with this policy or authority and as i mentioned unfortunately without no justification in the last 6 years they refuse to reach an agreement with us and even to sit in the same room with us this is a big mistake and unfortunately it causes tragedy to the palestinian people you
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tell me that you don't tell the palestinians what to do do you have any idea how many times your forces raid the homes of those palestinians in the west bank when you now want to treat his friends do you even know the average number of those raids on palestinian homes according to un dater and this is just 420172018 soldiers broke into your soldiers broke into palestinian homes throughout the west bank $6400.00 times an average of $267.00 incursions a month about 10 every night is that the way you hope to make friends with the palestinians and why do you think we do it. we think that we do it because we enjoy it i was a soldier in israel in the in the there somewhere for years my 3 sons were soldiers injured and somalia for years and they do exactly what you describe try to prevent terrorism and violence and atrocities and thousands and
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thousands of israelis were massacred in terrorist terrorism activities that unfortunately were initiated by terrorist groups injured and some are in gaza i'm optimistic that the palestinians begin to understand that violence is not going to kick us out of the our land we are eager to live in peace with them and hopefully in the future they will accept the idea that president trump try to encourage to reach historic journey an agreement that will put an end to hostilities and to animosity between the people i believe that it's possible nobody believes is possible with egypt and jordan and bahrain. and sudan and morocco and it happened it will happen eventually with the palestinians once their leaders will come to their senses and understand that we are here to stay at least a 100 meter forever stanek but you had
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a perfect opportunity to show your desire for friendship with the palestinians by sharing your curve it vaccines with them but you haven't done that to 2 tiny gestures a 10100 vaccine doses were sent 2 weeks ago for medical personnel and sometime soon 5000 doses again for medical personnel why is it the palestinians living under occupation in the west bank don't get the same access to like scenes that israeli jews are getting living side by side with them and settlements by the discrimination again you have to understand understand that your facts are not correct. as i told you the palestinian authority's independent they have their own budget they have their own life and they made an agreement with countries who have seen both of them they did it with russia and china and other countries unfortunately they had problems. all these agreements were
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not fulfilled not because of us that because of problems between them and their colleagues so we voluntarily were ready and are ready to give them 5000 words in units and we are in the process of doing it for their medical. people in order for the medical people the doctors the nurses at least to be vaccinated. fast as possible and the same goes with the people in gaza that are not under occupation as you know israel withdrew from gaza many years ago. 2 decades ago and again the gaza is totally dependent they have agreements with other countries so i can tell you this if the palestinians will ask from us we will help them your explanation is being bored by influential people around the world by the un or indeed politicians in the us we had new york congressman jamal bowman saying netanyahu must ensure that both israelis and palestinians have access to the target
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vaccine to scrutiny is another reminder of why the occupation must end and a colleague of his congressman weiner. said he was just appointed a concern that the government's exclusion of palestinians living under israeli occupation despite making vaccines available to israeli settlers in the west bank so they're not buying your explanation mr. my friend i don't know why you keep repeating the lies of people there are probably incorrect because there is no box you patient. there is a policy in authority that has its own life and independence and budget and agreements about the fit nation with other countries repeating the lie is going to going to change to reality it is our interest that the palestinians will be vaccinated you know why because they live with us howden and 30000 palestinians
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every day crossed the border into israel to work with us 130000 people so our interest is that they will be vaccinated they made an agreement with other countries with russia they believe it's cheaper maybe it's more effective maybe it's more rapid this is that when they met the occupation is a lie because your own super in court confirm that you are holding judea and samaria in belligerent occupation those are the words they've used several times over the years so it's not a lie it's confirmed by your supremes allowed to lie it's illegal it's it's a lie it's a legal term because it's not occupation because we are not physically ruling over the life again you know that there is mr abu mazen he is the president president of what. president of our independent palestinian authority when he gaza bro he has a plane a plane of world of of of policy to an air force when he goes out he meets to show
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a passport he doesn't want we even have an airport he doesn't even have an airport mr allonby because the human element of it is again some of the airport you bombed the airport several years ago there's now you want to keep on lying this is up to you there is no airport into the somalia international airport was never there and it will never be because it's a small place but he goes through the israeli airport and he goes with the palestinian fast for he's not under occupation and he is welcomed all over the world and he goes to the united nations and nobody tells him what to say and he's criticizing israel in the most harsh where words and this is a good image because we are democrat democracy and we accepted policy that has their own intentions and their own history and their own spiritual so this is the situation but what he doesn't want to do unfortunately he still gushing
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with us to reach an agreement with us this might happen in the future probably when mr abu mazen is no longer the leader of the palestinian authority or i tacky haneke bed pinga caviar complex un thank you very much for your time. thank you very much .
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