when for business last week it israelis can gradually go back to normal life the government is issuing a green pass app to anyone who has been vaccinated twice the 2 nations can relax a little due to successful vaccination drives a bet on the future a bit they can only when the fat scenes are effective against the taishan it's. oh my goodness as finally light at the end of the tunnel a heap of countries are easing restrictions again the difference this time being that we've got a vaccine but some people don't want it including a lot of health professionals something we'll look at on tomorrow's show 1st i spoke to as the shape director of the azure institute about whether or not the exit strategies of the u.k. and israel are realistic so i think basically it is one of 2 approaches one is to try to eradicate the virus completely sometimes called a coded 0 strategy i think the other one the one i think is much more realistic is

the assumption that the virus is now here with those it's an endemic so what we have to do is try and live with the virus which means that there will be some restrictions in place over the longer term periodically relaxed. and but basically it's a long term strategy where we recognize that the virus is in our midst long term in the sense of forever. yeah i mean i think potentially just like we have with influenza influenza hits every season and every year periodic leave there are a pandemic. but what we have is a way has been actually living with it trying to balance you know the ability to. minimise any social restrictions whilst. also trying to minimize any.

oversea or mortality associated with the virus so as these what are you saying have you saying mosques are going to become. regular. we going to have to continue social distancing for for the rest of our lives. and i think what we now have are like scenes of the various active and i think that will help reduce the number of serious cases i mean hopefully also reduce transmissions i think that's a very important instrument that we've got in our tool kits we also now got a number of treatments for people who do develop serious disease and i think that is also incredibly helpful with that's been i think we should be able to actually substantially reduce movie c. and mortality but there may be periods of time where we do need to take additional safeguards and those that may include. face masks that they may include

physical distancing measures. the actual physical contact periodic lee and i think the other thing that we do need to develop and continue to develop is our testing capabilities and the ability to support people who are isolating interesting positive what would you say just finally to people who are tired of all these lockdowns. would like to see an end in sight but. may not think they can live with this type of virus for the rest of their life. you know i'm not think we're all top human this is an incredibly challenging period for all of us. what we know from our own human history is that reason learn to manage viruses and so they've been there in an arab cause nature now with coded launching what we've seen is just really very very rough it acceleration of our understanding of our roads i think vaccines having treatments available and so i

think mean clearly it's been a very very difficult period for all of us i mean i think things will get improves our i very much hope so but we need to be patient and we need to tread very carefully i think as a shape from the university of edinburgh thank you very much and to germany has seen a harsh winter when it comes to the pandemic of one region in the north has made it through the last months with exceptionally low numbers of infections what's their secret to success they have testified to and on a cot health visitor bra stock in the state of edinburgh west pomerania. is it the cool baltic greece or the rather calm and collected mindset of people in the north of germany so far they have made it well through the covert crisis especially here in the city of boston infection numbers are currently lower than the german

everett. to supernews we are disciplined northern germans are quite different from everyone else. so we're a bit more nordic and distance anyway maybe that's our secret recipe will be allowed to get so hard to try to bring the puts in rules so that it doesn't increase on the seniority does does the secrets timing might have been one reason very early on the city started testing more people than ever it masks quickly became mandatory in designated places and alcohol was spent on the streets earlier than in most places in germany. in other reason might be him of our stocks mayor he is originally from denmark and had just started his political career when the pandemic hits before that he was an entry printer helpful when leading a team. minded people looked very surprised when i said now we're

going to shut everything down it took 15 minutes and then they started working all together as a strong team and immediately put my words in action and i can understand that when the new mayor suddenly says we're going to shut everything down here it will be about it's i was dished now he wants to do things differently again the mayor has suggested opening up business is before everyone else as an example for germany. we would be very happy to offer ourselves as a pilot city that way we can look at which concepts can be implemented in the search reason for the low number of infections could be the north vaccination strategy relative to its inhabitants they have vaccinated more people than any other region in germany. and there is something else a few family doctors are gaining nationwide attention because they started vaccinating people in their own practice unique in germany because so far people

had to go to vaccination centers to get the jap administering it has been doable for doctors here contrary to popular belief the biotech pfizer vaccine can be stored at normal french temperature for a couple of days. my wish of course would be that when we have enough vaccine available in the near future that we will have proven with this model project it's possible the family doctors can do the vaccinations it has brought into this idea and let the family doctors take over. but germany is still missing vaccine doses until that problem is solved the country's north will have to continue counting on its discipline and maybe the fresh baltic breeze i mean and you're over now to our science correspondent eric williams has been looking into your questions on the coronavirus if there is something you want to know just leave a message for derek on our you tube channel and you look into it.

are children as infectious as an adult. what you read over and over when you start to research this question is something the along the lines of the role that kids play in the spread of coke at 19 remains highly controversial which is just a complicated way of saying we don't know but we're starting to fill in some of the blanks surrounding children and transmissions so so here's some of what we do know 1st of all kids in general tend to not manifest symptoms of the disease as strongly as adults do so they don't get as sick some researchers have polishes slee hypothesized that could be a reason why they don't transmit it as often even if they might have a viral load as high as that of an adult but another new study has muddied the

waters a little because it's linked viral load in adults at least pretty tightly to how infectious people are so actually some conflicting narratives there the other really interesting aspect of this issue however is that some studies show kids especially young ones appear in general to be less susceptible to catching cove at 19 in the 1st place there are several different theories out there about why that might be so but the important epidemiological takeaway is of course that the harder it is for you to catch it the less likely you become to pass it along many experts think that helps explain why schools don't appear to be driving community transmission but instead seem to only reflect it but the evidence is. no overwhelming which is why so many schools are still closed so i can hear you say

well what's the answer are our children as infectious as adults or not. and i can only respond the role kids play in the spread of covert 19 remains highly controversial. a science correspondent derek williams there finally for 10 rockets hangs in indonesia the pandemic is made having to hitch a ride in a helicopter when released into the wild just recently a critically endangered animals had been in captivity wanted thailand and were rescued by the borneo running a tank survival foundation 5 males 2 females at a mother with 2 babies were released right things were transported by chopper to prevent possible transmission of the corona virus in nearby villages poaching and habitat losses decimated the raid saying population and the coronaviruses emerged as and now the threat for the only great ape native to asia can see the helicopter

ride there and touch down into the wild. always nice to finish on a fluffy out of all story we have had wanted a very long time i thought you'd say safe i'll see you again very soon i'm been physical and i sat here all day w. about.

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