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nurses and doctors are reluctant to go get the jab in belgium the vaccination drive has been delayed due to the just equal problems and then there's the skepticism about vaccines which is especially high among the french speaking population they don't use reports. this is a moment to remember. colleague photographs care home worker christina retreats as she receives her 2nd dose of the biotech pfizer vaccine. 4 months is where i really hope to encourage my colleagues but also my family even the country to come and get vaccinated. as vaccination drives in nursing homes like this one in the french speaking part of belgium draw to a close many stuff still opting out. almost half of all care workers and private institutions alone in the region are hesitating even the director of this
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home is among the. kids q one of the side effects i'd say in 20 years nobody knows today so it's a bit like buying a car you feel like you could be safe but i want to see the crash test results so personally i am a bit skeptical but for the older people clearly it's a good thing it was kind of excess well put it. this caregiver is also one sure he prefers to wait because he's heard some rumors. i heard yes some production in it that can be used. you can be observed from the stand because of those production them like. kind of a stop no. and this is just the tip of the ice book false claims that the vaccine causes infertility or even death or spreading like wildfire across social media the
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french speaking part of belgium appears particularly receptive to these ideas. the head of most in home federation thumb a bell thinks making vaccinations mandatory may be the only option so far training sessions or online campaigns have failed to convince stuff i did not understand i do not understand that it was so for them this so a lot of rape of elderly people who died there so the loss of life and it's unbelievable or do is people do not understand that they can protect themself it's a big question i think we have to move move move. back at the nursing home this local doctor is trying his utmost to demonstrate that vaccines are safe is this and that's why i tell the staff here you need to get vaccinated not 70 percent
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if you want 100 percent if you can all of you in order to win this fight. many of christina rodrigo's colleagues are also taking to social media to encourage others . she hopes each photo will make a difference. how caton is chief executive officer of the international council of nurses how would i know enough people i've got enough neighbors and enough family and friends who i'm very skeptical about this whole crisis and everything involved on every level but health professionals. so we are strongly recommending health care professionals take the vaccine we have seen infection rates amongst nurses and health workers at a high level tragically we've seen nurses around the world in other health workers who've succumbed to coronavirus this is an issue about their protection and their
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safety but also our health systems we have no health care workers we have no health systems so strongly recommending that people take this but for those who have questions and are hesitant it's important to have the discussion with them and to understand the reasons for that is a really about their health and not protecting our health they're the ones doing a service to the community. i think if you're on pick the questions that people have is firstly things around the seems to have been developed very very quickly to vaccines come forward in in a matter of months that's true but that's because there's been this great global effort to develop the vaccines and you look at the processes the steps that have been gone through by the medical regulate tree authorities they have all been followed so we need to explain that to people so they sure of that some people are worried about side effects there are 200000000 people around the world who had this vaccine to date and the side effects that were in the trials of the same ones that
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we're seeing so there's no undue cause for concern there there's some frankly crazy stuff as well about people think they're being implanted with trackers that are going to monitor their movements well if you're worried about that you probably shouldn't have a mobile phone but the key here is to talk to people and explain the facts and the reality so that they do have the faxing how at the end of the day these doctors nurses and other health care workers are the guinea pigs they're 1st in line to get the vaccine so i can understand to a certain extent this anxiousness. some people have genuine questions about the speed with which the vaccines have been developed or if there are going to be side effects some people also a young girl in a saying well it won't won't affect us but i think what we have to what we have to get here that this is an individual choice that people can make for the common good so i think actually it's an act of humanity is probably the easiest way to save a life by having the vaccine because you do not know whether you may even in an
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asymptomatic white costs on the virus to somebody else you're protecting yourself you're protecting our health systems you're protecting the most vulnerable people as well and when you explain the facts to people i'm sure the overwhelmingly they will take the vaccine how could you explain the facts for us when it comes to the astra zeneca vaccine because that's the one that's really got people skeptical. as i understand it the chest the trials that have been done do show that there is great effect for people with severe t.c.'s and with hospitalized patients as as well this is that's hugely important that we stop people dying and we stop people requiring in needing really intensive hospital care as well none of us can
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afford for our health systems to be to be overwhelmed i think there's still work controls are being done on the effect if in relation to to milder diseases and moderate diseases but i see the benefits in terms of severe disease and the impact on not just people's lives but hospitalizations is really important why people should take the vaccine what about that early data shows from $28.00 to $34.00 days after the 1st healthy astra zeneca vaccine reduced the risk of hospitalisation by 94 percent. this is data which is just emerging in recent days it's stunning it's beyond what people thought was possible a year ago experts were talking about perhaps 5060 percent efficacy so that the efficacy here is she truly important and should be reassuring to people millions of people having the vaccine around the world us as well which gives reassurance around the lack of any severe side effects but also i think we've got an issue
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about ensuring that vaccines are available equitably right the way around the world so far the overwhelming majority in fact seems have been delivered in high income countries if we continue down that road the risk is that new variants that might if they ate the vaccine will develop in low income middle income countries and none of us are out of this until we are all vaccinated from the virus the world is intimately into twined we don't win this on a nation not by nation basis we defeat the virus as one world. from howard catton chief executive officer of the international council of nurses thank you. time for derek williams his our science guy with another one of your questions on the coronavirus. if we can't develop long term immunity against a pathogen through natural infection how can we do it with
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a vaccine. we don't yet know how long that scene induced immunity will last with covert 19 but this is an interesting topic to discuss anyway as as with some pathogens you really can achieve longer term effects with vaccines than through natural infection that's because when faced with a pathogen or in the case of a vaccine a facsimile of it the immune system responds with a a cascade of events that eventually wipes it out but also prepares for the eventuality that the pathogen can show up again someday if that happens the invader can be cleared out fast as a rule of thumb more severe disease appears to trigger a more lasting response and and we've learned something cool in over 200 years of experimenting with vaccines which is that severe disease can be faked and we can
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even to the body's response to some extent we got a pretty good at doing that effectively in a dose or 2 of harmless vaccine some people think somehow that immunity acquired from actually having the disease is somehow better than that you get from back scenes but but there are 2 reasons why that scene acquired immunity is actually preferable on 1st of course. is that infection with any pathogen can always go badly even in people who are otherwise healthy so if you have the opportunity to protect yourself from that risk you should take it 2nd as counter-intuitive as it might seem at 1st glance because they can provoke a more intense immune response spot by faking severe disease the longer term protection back seems provide could actually be more effective than that prompted by getting the sickness itself especially if you had
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a mild case as so many people do with cope at 19 that's why health care authorities are recommending that you still get vaccinated even if you've had and recovered from the disease. thanks for watching stay safe and see you again sir. conflict zone opposition parties in pakistan have it up and the pressure on prime minister emraan khan in a series of recent mass protests they say that he is a puppet of the military and has mismanaged the economy as inflation's fire my guest this week from islamabad is far watch out for a pakistani minister for science and technology what has since armitage changed who's calling the shots in pakistan a conflict zone but. next to go global. she
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to discover the world. own. subscribe to. documentary to. just do one call for years of prime minister non-con has actually done that by focus on you know the public's help by a very long time involved who saw this and more corruption scandals in the fall put out if you have to go is there a parallel justice system in your country in the next 6 months you will see the number of missing persons really busy do you think it's a 6 up to bill to intimidate the press i see no problem with the freedom of expression opposition parties in pakistan have been upping the pressure on prime minister imraan khan in a series of recent mass protests they say he's
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a puppet of the military and has mismanaged the economy as inflation spirals it's also concerned about the state of human rights and press freedom my guest this week from islamabad is far why choudhary pakistani minister for science and technology what has his government to achieve who's calling the shots in pakistan. mr fowler chattery welcome to conflict zone thank you for having me it's half way through your government's charm and there is rising anger at high inflation and poor economic prospects the opposition has united they say that your prime minister imran khan that he is incapable and that he is merely a puppet of the military is he. well frankly all the positions meant in the same line it's just a non-serious argument i believe. this 2 years of prime minister non-con
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has actually done that died for pakistan at the time when the whole world is actually struggling of the buggers on is probably the only conclude that has shown remarkable i would say that we have achieved the success that nor the country could have even imagined that by this onward we have we have successfully. we have. economic stability. and anything that you can imagine you know the best case scenario that you can attribute to any country in the baucus on is a is for that and that's the word has actually acknowledged by the sun for that but mr minister i'd like to ask you because let's look at the seriousness of the argument in fact let's look at the management of the pandemic on march 22nd the prime minister told the nation that the government would not institute a sweeping lockdown less than 24 hours later the military announced that the army
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would oversee a shutdown and they have been orchestrating the response ever since so who's calling the shots. that's that's actually not true the 1st this on appeal don't go into 6 february i think by this on was was i would say among the very nations that initiated. steps to secure its borders and ports in the 2nd week we actually all over. the world started if do believe. the. refereeing there was no concept of a complete block known in pakistan and prime minister there's a strict guard from day one and that is the reason that in pakistan we never would had complete lockdown we only had partially lock don't and actually very well managed lockdowns and military is part of the government and we
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actually the policies of the government have the full support of the army so pakistani prime minister called the short and pakistan army sports mr minister you know there are members former members of the military who don't agree with that assessment in fact and i just like to turn to the statements of a retired general who says the government in fact left a big gap in its handling of the coronavirus the army has tried to fill that gap there was no choice so in other words he's saying the handling of the coronavirus crisis one of one of the greatest challenges of the past decades and the civilian government could not rise to meet it who said this this is a retired general who was quoted by the financial times on april 25th 2020 but. i'm a retired iran's leaders i think in the economic condition of anonymity. look now this you see obviously a sort of
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a cliff statement so all business any oil any retired general is just like any other citizen or baucus on we don't know his political affiliation but forget about what border. and want to see is the question is that what. we have we stand today a government of the over produced results or not the fact is that baucus on is it has been appreciated by everyone on the board heading so it's not it's really ruined who said what so you have to see the consequences and deserve what he says and by this unproved success and i have to give credit to the prime minister's policies and certainly me pretty supported by this on prime minister's body suit because that part of the government let's move from the coronavirus crisis to the management of pakistan's economy was started a little bit earlier that the economy was doing very well but you know the assessment of the world bank is that you had double digit inflation last year they also say that your economic prospects for this current year remain below potential
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tens of billions of dollars right now are being invested in the major infrastructure project that china pakistan economic or dorsey pak it's happening on your soil it's supposed to spur economic growth last year you installed a former military general to oversee it could you not find anyone in your civilian government to handle it. frankly ones are doing most of their dieters as much a civilian as any other civilian and actually their human resource. we've found the best with that lost him by has served in the army but fact of the matter is that he is one of the most competent officers to handle this he knows pro and cons of this project he has served a long time and we would like anyone would like you know someone with hands on experience to handle such projects and that's why he was elected so secondly there as you mentioned about the economy you see we inherited. an economy that was in
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shambles. was literally at the brink of bankruptcy and we started initiated oversteps from that very moment today impact on the economy was far better. then at the time when we actually in. all and today by the sons of rupees dibble by his sons but his son has actually the i would say the biggest step of prime minister non-con is that he has actually germinated the industry in pakistan for it is box on export has touched the highest by this on. the highest at the moment we are nor we are not putting money to stabilize rupee by their dollar but it being we are actually the money is stable not mr minister i think let's turn now to $1.00 of iran calms big promises when he came into office and that is to stamp out corruption the anti corruption agency the national
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accountability there on the i may be has arrested around a dozen politicians from the opposition since then how many have been arrested from your party why would anyone who would have been arrested from my party there was no iraqi in interfering in the. top if there is any you should point out who should be arrested from our party. well let me tell you what the supreme court of your country thinks about your handling and how you're approaching the anti corruption campaign and a stinging decision last year the supreme court said that the anti corruption body the national accounts ability peril in selectively applying its laws on individuals when it pertains to opposition politicians for 15 months without credible charge your top bar association goes one step further to say it's a tool for arm twisting of political opponents so how can you say that the anti corruption campaign is legitimate with such
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a stance on it like that. so. i would like to explain this in a bit to you know you see this whole national accountability bureau the anti corruption institution we have not the government has not appointed even. a lot of stuff in this you know organization from its german from the german of the knob to the very last good each and every one is appointed by. be amended a lot should he or she had called on our boss either his nominee as a prime minister or them. party so the whole institution of the law itself was actually passed by a pm i learned in $1000.00 men to salman then people's party did indeed the whole organisation is actually established by either because part european milan all that this is they are charged with. not defiled by us each and every case they are
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facing are actually fly by peoples party against be a muslim or pm i lemme guess because party so it is a witch hunting all investigations of this case these cases were actually complete even before prime minister took over thirdly did is the evidence against them is not orderly evidence where you will you know pick up someone and force him to make a statement each and every is based on text. documentary evidence for example leader of the opposition shahbaz sharif is behind the bars and it is an evidence of $41.00 volumes against him each and every money he transferred out so $2.00 money laundering has been accounted for so does not think. it's just fashionable to sit to criticize the you know the process for accountability but fact of the matter is that every pakistani citizen or their holder plundered pakistan every every one more the facts of the case that is. maybe you can give this impression to the
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foreign media. did is a return thing but in fact over it is every progress on the most at all like this is our business in the matter so let's say it's not just the foreign media we have to say mr minister that the european commission assessment of pakistan also raised red flags that there are very few cases of ruling party ministers and politicians that have been pursued since the $29000.00 elections amnesty international also points out that the crackdown has actually increased since the opposition united this this past fall they have called on you to cease using the national accountability bureau to detain critics of the government where is the accountability mr minister. well frankly just. as important the goal mantra goals will be arrested for mood is a is is i going to mean and this quote an incident in modern i would say if that is any case against any good model for should. be for the it would be for
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the mob and sure that everyone's only making a political statement. that i also agree she said that mr miss mr minister then let me ask you about one particular case i'd like to talk about one very exposed person who is seen as affiliated with your government that is a retired lieutenant general. we spoke about him earlier he was appointed head of the c pac authority he's been accused of not declaring his family's assets properly as you know. so this is the person who you trust to manage your major infrastructure project but once i leave you should have games to the allegation what i believe you should against the allegation is that he didn't properly file his wife wife's assets the allegation is that he built businesses his family built businesses in multiple countries around the world worth tens of millions of dollars and the big question is you know you're trusting him to have this infrastructure
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project at the very least a does it not warrant having him stand aside while you marry an investigation to avoid any appearance of impropriety that is what the opposition has called for. i'm actually in all the allegations against him is that the 7 years of his brother. in the united states of america they have built companies they built companies in which his wife shared about 13 or 15 percent of you know the shares belonged to his wife so i am unable to understand that if this bill if this whole empire is built on corruption and that do in the united states of america where is the evidence to that and if he has transferred money to united search for america from here and some money laundering as you know under the new money laundering regime in the hole in the international and jim he can easily be comprehended but the fact of the matter that is that
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a position to use such kind of propaganda or loot to malign political opponents when it comes to hard evidence there really has nothing missed and i learned this case. you know the public's not buying it the public perception is that corruption in fact is on the rise under your administration according to reporting from transparency international so since they simply aren't terribly confident in these efforts that you're speaking about right now are they. actually. know now coming to transparency international actually i believe i have gone through the report of transparency international and i believe it's a very very good report and the emphasis is and the point they have raised are actually needs a careful consideration for example there is one point of. pakistan in description and that's because of the lower judicial court system in pakistan and i believe they're concerned you know that you've just this is and also the
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revenue departments and the police department did need to get together and all this new book out that why. people have you know the kind of they don't have fear from these systems so i believe their response international board is very right on under other hand i would like to point out there is after a very long time and by this there is nor corruption scandal at the ball put out if you have the government did this. 5 months of this government not just single scandal for a minister this is very i would say thing in pakistan because this on the country is under used to be a government of people's party and pm and then they didn't work hard for him and actually all the minister would have been good for the money mr minister i'd like to move on beyond your anti corruption campaign there's allegations of human rights abuses that have been mounting there's been recent demonstrations from family members demanding answers for people forcibly have disappeared
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a term used for state back abductions is there a parallel justice system in your country where security forces decide who is going to be taken. well frankly partisan has been into a situation for example in our districts of america build this whole guantanamo be there was a huge debate there and this happened likewise in spain the detention period actually gone up to sammy news so there was a drastic measures taken by the by the by the european countries by the america when the minutes of terrorism if you crossed all limits and that happened in pakistan as a but it's no not a melissy back in pakistan you will appreciate the biggest number of missing persons was in previous. from 2 dozen 13 to 18 but didn't one hard for years of growth of prime minister non-con government the number has actually declined very reasonably declined and i believe that in next 6 months you will see the number of
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missing persons will be 0 mr minister ok so you say the number of missing people will be 0 tell me because your government and this has been reported has finally decided to expedite a mac mechanism to resolve the issue but you didn't do this on prompt it if you. i understand that the islamic high court ruled last month that the prime minister and his cabinet could be held responsible for these forced disappearances so why should anyone trust that action will be swift and concrete and that these families indeed will get answers. actually swift and we order we order to bring in the law through which missing persons and the people in ward in the missing persons can actually be prosecuted so we are taking all the actions boss said look. i think of the situation has improved a lot and the number of missing persons as i said before has declined to a very significant this is
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a very significant change you can anyone can actually tell you and i believe that the next few months you will see this number. mr minister i just like to to driver one's attention to something that you have said on the matter publicly in fact you issued a tweet this was in february where you wrote the following these mothers can protest in punjab and yet no one will shoot them after looking at their id cards but what can we do about the sorrow of those mothers whose sons are shot in baluchistan just because they are punjabi just speak about the atrocities everywhere and say you know that the color of punjab blood is red to this tweet was sharply rebuked as rubbing salt in the wounds of these individuals is this how you deal with the grievances and the questions from the citizens of your country. not thought of this there's just so. sweet throw depiction of the situation this is what i'm saying i'm not going i think that this is not my greed but fact of the battle is that punjabi
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. youngsters really really young boys have been killed in baluchistan by the terrorists supported by by a b a laid back by india unfortunately. those go north. you know sons in baluchistan but this is the fact of the matter unfortunately india has created the situation in baluchistan the young jobbies have been killed most of this city and unfortunately does the woes of these mothers are still i mean how can you how can you describe the. describe the situational mother who is going to go into a situation where his son was actually asked to come out of the bus train there like you are going to be as you insurance very you appear to be deflecting the blame so i just like to ask you u.n. rights groups they have been calling for action in one particular case and i'd like to draw us to it that is the trade case of just contact human rights defender
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formally of amnesty international he was reportedly forcibly disappeared in 2019 or arrested by security forces under the official secrets act the u.n. says he was held incommunicado for 7 months so more than half a year he continues to be deprived of his most basic rights what does that say about the rule of law in your country and wouldn't this be a good opportunity to start with transparency and answer the un's call for an investigation. no 100 percent prime minister is very clear on that if there is any case i don't have more details of the incident that you mention and frankly i have no idea i do nor warp anything about this case but in all cases prime minister has really kept a good he said that there should be nor. is without a proper legal course adopted in progress on his. course. just on the us there is a situation unfortunately the list is going on backed by india. that
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situation is obviously what he some but actually we are dealing with it mr minister let's talk about freedom of the process censorship has reportedly been on the rise of journalists who paint the military or the governments in a negative light have faced threats human rights watch's describes what it calls a climate of fear you were once a journalist former minister of information you think it's acceptable to intimidate the press. does not acceptable in pakistan i believe. is probably one of the most free media the world can imagine we have been back it's up there is no denial of the fact that i was on the media is very very powerful. actually many people believe there should be a strong defamation laws which are not here unfortunately but by those on the media . i see no problem if you say it's a very expression if you say it's free event then please explain to me why respected programs including the b.b.c.'s are 2 language bullets and have pulled
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out of the country after what has been described as a constant interference by channels under pressure from the authorities why journalists have been charges have been brought against them others describe campaigns of online hate to intimidate them reporters without borders has condemned the campaigns they've asked the government to do something about it so where's the action. when online here do something that politicians feel is the most i feel is the most because you know when i. did the every day i feel for the was. almost the 2nd day on something and i go to church so most of the do not mr madison are the bottom line in the glitz lawrenceville it's online hey it's more than just online hate i mean the european commission and its assessment and assessment of pakistan says that the increasing pressure by security forces with the tacit approval of the government on those with dissenting views including the media this
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is what they're reporting about the situation that it comes from you. ok so 1st is that i would like to explain the online here do something that every segment of the society feeds and politicians are actually the most well known but now coming to the. idea that you said can you please name any journalists who have been actually intimidated by the state and by the agencies is there any star system issue that you can relate absolutely engine of 2019 t.v. screen suddenly went black during geo news interview with the former president because cable t.v. operators disconnected transmission at the military high command behest that's according to reporters without borders voice of america has also reported periodic blackouts for example. we don't i don't think there's any black coat involved is not invited on though i would say. we have about 150 channels the number of journalists is they can thousands so i don't see any incident you
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have been not been able to name one person who has actually been intimidated by the syrians if there is a personal case of someone like concepts and then mr minister i would say. perhaps you will believe. a justice in the supreme court who recently said in a hearing that the media in the country is not free and of the country is being destroyed in a systemic manner perhaps you will believe that statement and perhaps you can also explain to me why your prime minister has separately cried foul and said that politicians are being targeted with libelous reporting do you expect people to believe that you are really the victims here and frankly of their drugs would have caused the who hold many believe the. how many people many judges have been appointed don't matter i would believe the answer would have been seem so it's actually did you should not make such
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a political statement because it didn't come back to haunt them and it was very unprofessional for jais to say to make such statements and everyone know why he is doing what is bad known there's a case against him. obviously he has very few years there why government and others are just re-elected and of mr minister another justice on the court of great wealth and justice bok here child and when he made that statement he said that judges should ideally avoid such comments but what can be done when the country itself is not in an ideal situation how how long can judges remain silent he said but what is what is your idea of the dancers make political statements. that's not for me to decide if they're ok thank you very much this is what the ice. political statement minister for our charity thank you so much for joining us on conflicts around.
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