tv Extra 3 Deutsche Welle March 4, 2021 1:00pm-2:01pm CET
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this is the news live from berlin protesters in me. after the bloodiest day since the military coup began funerals are being held for 38 people killed on wednesday but pro-democracy demonstrators returned to the streets despite the army stepping up its crackdown also coming up. no end yet to germany's coronavirus shutdown chancellor angela merkel says the lockdown will be extended for another 3 weeks but she doesn't know steps toward a gradual reopening to. us it's been
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a big year for china be the only major economy to grow during the global pandemic we take a look at what we can expect from this year's national people's congress. as welcome to the program united nations human rights chief has called on myanmar security forces to hold the crackdown on peaceful protesters and release those who have been unlawfully detained the demand follows the bloodiest day since the military coup began last month a total of $38.00 people were killed on wednesday but as people gathered across the country to bury and mourn the victims demonstrations continued and pro-democracy protests leaders promised more. yesterday she was a protester today. recession carries her body through the streets of mandalay
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carlson and 19 year old university student shot in the head during a protest against the military coup on wednesday. at her funeral relatives surrounded her open coffin as mourners passed by paying their respects all singing revolutionary songs and chanting anti can slow. green emboldened protesters have returned to the streets of me in mar with a clear understanding of what's at stake they know their defiance of the military coup could cost them their lives. we don't want anything from them we just demand that our mother and censored she is back and the power is in the people's hands we don't want the military ruling the country that's why we're protesting and i'm also ready to die instead of others when soldiers come back again. and i don't. the military to his rant up its response with a show of force scrambling fighter jets to make several low altitude passes over
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mandalay. both sides unwilling to back down i mean maher remains on a razor's edge. and i'm joined by former un special rapporteur maher the human rights expert 38 dead yesterday still people are back on the streets protesting is there really nothing to me the demonstrators and. i don't consider. the people of myanmar i did it they will not. live under it is illegitimate military junta. so what makes the myanmar case so special. well you know if you go back to the history of myanmar they have done during the military junta their 1st could it tongue was
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in $62.00 and they've lived under several credit times within the could. and it was a dreadful period of time but it is civilians have to endure you know in history me and my used to be very prosperous and one of the leading countries in southeast asia with 50 years of severe brutal military rule you know mine has turned into not a very prosperous country and now since 2015 they've started to enjoy what looked like very close to a democratic country but and then military is cracking down again on the peoples of. so that we seen a lot of international condemnation and even some sanctions is the international community giving enough support to the democracy movement that. i really think that
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international community can do more they can go the extra mile but they really aren't doing more to a lot democratic transition in a free democratic society in manama and what you can see yesterday was another terrible day and you can see that there's been death by gunshots aimed at the head and several die with gunshots to their head and we are i am informed that there were 2 under aged children in those casualties to victims who are 14 years old and 16 years old and since the 1st if that were 8 we have about 5 children that have lost their lives. so what else then could institutions like the un for example do to
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end these atrocity and restore democracy what instruments does it have. well the u.n. has. a doctor resolution to security council can a doctor and a strong resolution. against john manama but right now the security for this case security council is almost the front when he comes to issues that do not please the fancy of the russians and the chinese especially if it's really in their and their negative interest so do you think it's russia and china that need to be convinced to do more. yes i think. among between those 2 founders to china and he to be convinced that it can do more in china i recently came out with a statement that it. will not have it will not support in unstable neighboring country
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and that it will support tree and democratic transition program now that i think it's time that china really make sure that this is what they plan to do and that they are willing to deliver and at the same time member states of the united nations can do more by naturally by seizing all it millet our. economic engagements with military enterprises in manama seizing any military to military corporations in manama and i speak also to international financial institutions such as world bank and i.m.f. i mean a human rights expert and former special rapporteur for the u.n.
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on myanmar thank you very much for this inside thank you very much and are some other stories making headlines around the world at this hour police in sweden say they are investigating a possible terrorism motive after 8 people were wounded in a stabbing rampage the suspected attacker was shot and arrested by police following the incident in the southern town of atlanta police say they did not have any prior information about an imminent attack. the european union says a unilateral moved by britain to extend the grace period for border checks between northern ireland and the rest of the u.k. is a breach of international law the u.s. threatening legal action saying the extension violates the terms of the break the deal. u.s. capitol police are tightening security after announcing evidence of a potential plot by a right wing militia group to breach the capitol building on thursday the capitol
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police and others in u.s. law enforcement have been facing criticism for failing to prevent approach from more from storming the capitol building on generous 6. germany is extending its coronavirus shutdown by 3 weeks until march 28 but some restrictions will be ease to allow non-essential stores and other businesses to reopen in areas with relatively low infection rates chancellor merkel announced the plan after extensive talks with state leaders they agreed new measures intended to offer at least a glimmer of hope that live at some stage will return to some kind of normal. the talks between regional leaders and chancellor angela merkel stretched into the night with state premiers having to negotiate a number of details but when merkel finally emerged she had an optimistic message for the german public despite announcing the lockdowns extension until later this
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month then. you know we're at the threshold of a new phase of the pandemic. i mean it's a phase which we can't go into carelessly but i think it's important to say with justified home. the leaders agreed to a step by step reopening strategy for businesses schools and public spaces with emergency breaks built in each new step will require affection writes to remain low less than 50 cases per 100000 people over a 7 day period if infection numbers begin to spike then the measures will quickly be reversed however contact restrictions between households will be slightly eased as of next week the reopening strategy also focuses on vaccinations and mass testing jabs will soon be available with many family doctors to try and boost
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vaccination numbers starting next monday people in germany will get access to one free rapid test a week. most the regional leaders understood the public's desire for normalcy but stressed optimism shouldn't come without caution when you think the office her job now to make sure that the next steps we take are smart ones the steps should allow us to open up a bit more but at the same time these should set us back months in this pandemic. with elections looming and public pressure growing regional leaders want to curb restrictions quickly but they also want to avoid having to potentially return to yet another lockdown. so what does that exactly mean our political correspondent nina is standing by to shed some light on that is this the much awaited change of strategy well it is a change of strategy whether this is the end of this whole debate and the entire
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crisis that's a completely different matter of course the new more contagious varian's already make up about 50 percent of new infections here and the infection numbers have started rising again even though germany has been in lockdown for 3 months here and if you add to that sluggish start to vaccination process and a complete lack of testing strategy so far you've got a situation where many people have been losing patients and they've become very vocal in their criticism of the government's handling of this crisis and they say simply extending the locked down ever and ever again is not going to work anymore and i'm glad america hard wanted to allow opening up of areas only if the number of new infections was very low but now she's been overruled by the 16 leaders of the federal states here who say we can cope with slightly higher infection figures and open up carefully if we step up vaccination and testing massive you know at the same time so in practical terms what does it mean for people like you and me for
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average people around. i just had to bring this chart with me because it is a very german thing to do of course we've got a 5 step plan but to be honest with you it is very difficult to understand even for people like us who deal with topics like these on a daily basis and so basically the new rules of this 5 step plan are you need to know just where your local area stands in terms of new infections and depending on that figure your regional government will then decide just which areas can reopen when so him berlin for example where below $100.00 new infections per 100000 people in one week and that means that our regional government can allow for museums to open from next week on which for example if they have a clear hygiene concept and then we need to wait 2 weeks and see whether the numbers a stable and then berlin can open theatres and allow for outdoor dining with negative
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test result etc and so on but it is very difficult to understand frankly and the opposition is slamming the crisis management and communication of the government as a total disaster and it is true that the info on this chart for example is not available in languages other than german yet for example well it's incredibly confusing people reacting. it depends who you ask and 1st the rules are very hard to understand and the opposition are extremely vocal in their criticism they're calling on young spawn the health minister to resign for a matter of reasons and many observers slam it as a slap in the face fungal americal the chancellor has had to cave in to pressure from those who've wanted to open up for a long time but then we asked people in the streets here in berlin today and you have to say that many of them do see the conflict that the government is finding itself in the pressure is there to open up but at the same time there's the real risk of running into the 3rd wave which is also what top fire ologists of warning that this decision to open up gradually is the beginning of the 3rd wave that my
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tape me hard so briefly what about the vaccination drama but we heard about the local g.p.'s that will be allowed to do the vaccinations in their practices from the end of the month some say better late than never and then there was some good news today that astra zeneca will also be recommended officially for people who are older than 65 or so here in germany and that will then hopefully help ease the supply constraints which have led to this very slow vaccine rollout in this country . our political correspondent. thank you nina and we have some of breaking through news coming in germany's vaccination authority has approved the use of astra zeneca coronavirus vaccine on the over 60 five's according to a statement from the german health ministry several countries including germany had initially restricted the extras in a car shot to people aged under 65 or in some cases even under 55 for lack of data
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on its effectiveness in older people. now a new global studies shows that countries with high obesity levels far higher death rates from cope with 19 report from the world's beastie for federation found that the covert death rate is 10 times higher in countries where more than half the population overweights this study does not address it catches the corona virus but who dies from it the authors are calling for people living with obesity to be given a vaccination priority olivia barataria of a company is joining me now the director of sciences science and programs at the world obesity federation joining she joins us from london to tell us more about the study findings has this been an overlooked factor in looking at covert mortality so in the last year we have been studying this at rapid pace and we have been finding associations between obesity and $1000.00 complications in the last few
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months from studies from several countries i think what our report shows is that 90 percent of all cope with $1000.00 related deaths have been in countries that had at least 50 percent of their population with overweight of or obesity so it's something that is coming to like now people are starting to pay attention unfortunately it is too late has been years that all of us public health professionals have been advocating for more action on obesity and unfortunately now we're paying a high price for it and the country is suffering most mainly which countries are they. yes right now that's what we're seeing but i think it's also important to note that some countries that right now have low rates of obesity and low rates of or to of coping 1000 mortality like for example vietnam also have very rapid rising rates of obesity so even if right now those countries are not suffering if we were
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to have another pandemic in a decade or so those countries would suffer as well so the problem really is urgent concerns all of us tell us also about the effect the obesity factor has on public health systems in the pandemic well the problem is that people with obesity are suffering because they can't access or treatment they can have surgery they have problems just checking in with their own physicians and even before defend them if we know the health systems are not prepared to handle to handle obesity most medical schools don't even teach obesity in their curriculum so we have right now a disease that is so prevalent and so urgent and at the same time health systems that are not prepared at all to manage it or to treat it and to prevent it you also demand priority for the overweight in getting the job and the other recommendations from your study. i think that important thing here is really to look at the science
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and not the narrative you know unfortunately the narrative that we are fed is that people with obesity i lay see if they lack discipline and willpower when the reality of the scientific reality is that obesity is a disease and if we look at the contributing factors for a coping $1000.00 complications the 2 main ones are age and b.m.i. so based on science we need to par at ty's people with a b.m.i. over 30 for vaccinations and besides from that we just won governments to really take action against obesity to adopt the roots framework which is recognizing obesity as a disease ensuring obesity monitoring of visitor prevention treatment for obesity and adopting a systems based approach we need the coordinated response because this is a really complex problem in europe just telling people to know it last and move more it's not going to cut it it's not enough. believe it or as a couple comes in from the world to b.c. federation thank you very much for this insight. that's
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a look now at some other developments in the coronavirus pandemic the european union has started a review of russia's sputnik v. vaccine moscow says it expects several you countries to approve its use this month greece is extending its current lockdowns through march 16 of the cases of new infections have continued to spike for days millions of vaccine shots from the free kovacs program due to arrive in nigeria and go and the democratic republic of congo last week ghana and the ivory coast received the 1st batches from the u.n. sponsored vaccine. and looking now at some other world news international criminal court has opened a probe into alleged war crimes committed in the palestinian territories since 2015 the investigation will target both the israeli military and the palestinian militant group hamas it comes after the i.c.c. ruled last month that have jurisdiction over territories occupied by israel
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including the west bank and the gaza strip. israel's environment protection minister has accused iran of links to a catastrophic oil spill off the israeli coast the spill is one of the country's worst ever ecological disasters israel says it's found the ship responsible for the slick and is calling it environmental terrorism has been no immediate comment from iraq. german track area of tons as reported a loss of $6700000000.00 euros for the last year as the cold $900.00 pandemic led to travel restrictions and tens of thousands of flights being canceled during the crisis the allen was propped up with a 9000000000 euro cash injection by the governments of germany belgium austria and switzerland whose main airlines also belong to loved ones of. buckingham palace says prince philip has undergone a successful heart procedure the 99 year old husband to queen elizabeth the 2nd
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been in the hospital for more than 2 weeks the palace says he was treated for preexisting condition and will remain in hospital with few brain. it is one of the world's most spectacular displays of political theater china's annual national people's congress it starts on friday votes delegates welcomed president xi jinping in a ceremonial event today while the congress largely rubber stamps decisions already made by the communist party elite does give some indication of where china is heading the country's leadership uses the meeting as an opportunity to roll out some of its most important new laws for. red flags are flying on tiananmen square head of the most important event on china's political calendar this year's national people's congress takes on a special significance as a coincides with the centenary of the founding of the communist party which in the
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end. it's been a big year for china the only major economy to grow during the pandemic delegates are expected to approve its 5 year plan a blueprint to expand the middle class which already counts $400000000.00 people. it's a quick rebound from the coronavirus means china couldn't see america as the world's largest economy by 2030 so sort of economic nerds are going to be looking much for us where the economy is in terms of momentum through 2021 year over year. but it's going to be you know it's good growth. that they'll get will be around 7 or 8 percent would be my guess. president xi jinping will aim to keep the focus on national pride innovation and self-sufficiency. in the run up to the congress he launched a major propaganda campaign to claim poverty in rural china was over. the congress
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will also move to quash any criticism of the communist party china wants to tighten its grip further in hong kong the high profile trials of hong kong democracy activists has brought attention to beijing's crackdown in the territory it wants to ensure hong kong is firmly under the control of what the party calls chinese patriots. we've always seen some very difficult days recently on kong and over the past few months to see you know again and again and see beijing is coming to be set rules and change the laws if they don't action and i think it will be very all eyes you're seeing is the n.p.c. yet this thing going to be getting more laws which are going to direct him and. i'm reducing the role of on kong. people running on. the congress also gives an insight into china's defense budget last year military spending fell to its lowest in 3 decades. rising international tensions especially over taiwan but also over the
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south china sea could see the congress approving more money for the armed forces this year well with regard to china the u.s. secretary of state has warned that washington will not shy away from confrontation with beijing in his 1st major speech antony blinken described china as the 21st century's biggest geopolitical test the challenge posed by china is different china is the only country with the economic diplomatic military and technological power to seriously challenge the stable and open international system all the rules values and relationships that make the world work the way we wanted to because it ultimately serves the interests and reflects the values of the american people our relationship with china will be competitive when it should be collaborative when it can be an adversarial one it must be as we begin speaking that they just
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space x. efforts to send people into space ended and another rocket exploding but found a must still says the test was a success the company's s n 10 unmanned rocket blew up just minutes after landing but the touchdown represents the 1st successful landing of this type of rocket shortly after the initial moment was celebrated starship. into flames you know must lead to tweeted rest in peace s n 10 on rebel discharge the prototype rockets are being developed to carry people to the moon and later to mass. you're watching the news as a reminder of the top story we're following for you generals have been held in myanmar for 38 people killed in the bloodiest day since the military coup began the un's human rights chief has told on the military to stop killing and jailing protesters and the release of those who have been unlawfully detect.
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to. enter the conflict zone to sebastian. the world health organization is on the phone from doubloons who saw exists only dealings with china during the time damage my guess is me from copenhagen is the european regional director of the w.h.o. homes clearly those years old you guys are usually the ducks to stand up to the
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sometimes controversial come it is pretty cool to point. out on d. w. . right now what we have to do is to do everything we can to get oath will be funded the use of the chinese communist party will use all the global public as of today before not sit down to single old countries why has there been no formal and public protest about trying it withholding the data you almost full want. and you explain that to me we are focused on saving light the world health organization is under fire from governments and scientists over is dealing with china during a pandemic many think it's been too soft on beijing and too willing to accept
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everything it's told my guest this week from copenhagen is the european regional director for the w.h.o. how close was his organization of the guts to stand up to the chinese when it needs to. punish crew go welcome to conflict zone your recent fact finding mission in war has provoked a firestorm of criticism from many scientists and others around the world they're complaining that your messaging seems to give far too much support to china's preferred narratives which are neither impartial nor objective why are you doing that. well let me remind you that i'm the director for the region which covers the 53 european member states right in china doesn't belong to that one but if i speak from the let's say a genetic point of view did
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a poor thing is being written up as if we are speaking know will be made available and if we take to the issue of transparency accountability and reinforcement of the international regulations that's globally speaking certainly one of the main points that the independent panel for pandemic preparedness and review is looking at right now well you don't see that independent because you know you're pushing the notion the virus may have circulated elsewhere outside china before it was identified in wu han and that is one of beijing's favorite scenarios at the moment this idea was even included in your missions term of reference document and this had to agreed be agreed by the chinese government before you were actually allowed into the country so you were towing china's line right from the start weren't you well. please allow
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me to remind you i am the region director for the 53 european member states not a director general in geneva i think this question would be very best versed to be told you need for the specific region but let me make a more generic point here that the world health organization is not the world health inspector that we are governed by do world's nations right and that's something. you read your credibility is on the line here your credibility is being questioned. last year japan's deputy prime minister actually called you the chinese health organization as opposed to the world health organization. so i want you worried about your credibility what's happening to him is that in the world health organization is a technical organization and from the very beginning dubnyk show has been acting fast if you look at the 1st report was sent to the ritual the 31st of december
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immediately after degree actually triggered the structure it's called incident management structure to get ready for an alarm at the highest level that is what's happening and of course there will be what we call a very for in sick after action review who said what who said what to die or has a right now i understand that and therefore your full report your full report is still awaited but up until this point you've said you've upset a lot of people the american bio safety expert professor of chemical biology for instance richard a bright spot for many when he called your mission a sure rod it has no credibility he said its members were willing and they were at least one case eager participants in this information the pre-determined pre-ordained purpose of your mission was to raise the false flag proposal that the
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virus originated outside china and arrived in through international travel or internationally shipped frozen food no serious person he said. was if i were. right oh $2.00 points if i made the 1st one is still in the midst of the pandemic so we are focused on saving lights including a global roll out of the vaccination number 2 as i am responsible for european region we already are taking forward very important lessons learnt from the pandemic. well you may be taking for lessons but you're upsetting a lot of people in the process the white house itself the biden and ministrations said last month we have deep concerns about the way in which the early findings of the investigation were communicated and questions about the process used to reach them the fact is this mission of yours that went to war and may actually have made things worse my dead relatives i don't want to speculate because i think that would
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be unfair as my territory is the 53 european member states over here but as i was mentioning the degree to director general was tasked by the work of assembly last year to establish a independent panel for a pandemic preparedness and review which has delivered its 1st interim 2nd interim report recently to the executive board and they for sure will be doing the job what we're doing here in the region every single day and talking to ministers to prime minister to presidents right from what they make at night and to help them to contain the virus well everybody is awake at night wondering whether they will get to the bottom of the central question which is how did this outbreak 1st a car now at one point during your mission to china china refused to hand over information that the w.h.o. had been requesting for some time my question to you is why did the organization
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not insist on access to all relevant data before you actually went to china well i think that's a question of degree 2 or geneva but what will you could avoid in question mr mr you represent the w.h.o. and therefore you have to sell what they're doing in china in an investigation to your european partners i'm asking how you can do this when they seem to be obvious holes running away this investigation has been proceeding. i have a mandate write a report to the 53 degree to european member states but of course we're part of a global organization absolutely right and that's why in any degree of foreign i think germany has been quite straightforward on that one when it had the e.u. presidency and which is a very strong supporter of a degree of reform that there is an issue globally vith accountability in the reinforcement of the international regulations particularly if countries or not
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allowing independent mission or if they do not share data at the global level and that's something that has to be taken forward the w.h.o. is as strong as that piece that we are giving to and as of today we are not set up to single out countries why why has there been no formal and public protest about china withholding the data you asked for why. can you explain that as i was mentioning the degree cho is working with its member states it is government by the world's nations to protect health know there is a independent panel which is looking right at the mandate of the ritual should be strengthened and one of the main outcomes of the in i must warn you that your attorney is now answering over your opinion now of china withholding vital tenser that is standard practice standard practice to ask for in the case of an outbreak
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of a pandemic now do you prioritize 2500000 people around the world who are now dead from this virus well over 100000000 infected or are you just content to satisfy the whims and desires of the chinese communist party which is more important for you do you serve the chinese communist party or do you serve the global public because it doesn't look as though you serve the public at the moment i am serving there tim i am serving as i have told a number of times now the 53 degree utopian member states right that's what i'm busy with working around the clock with the states to get it and there is a degree childer for which will be decided by the work of assembly inmate right now what we have to do is to do everything we can to get out of the pandemic and how do we do it number one scaling up defection nation effort very important number 2 to be very vigilant that the mutants do not decrease the efficacy of finance asking
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understand i understand mr kluger about that but you're not answering my questions which are focused on your mission to china and the concerns that it has raised clear concerns internationally both in europe and america now in the course of perversion for china's is not that is not my mission team this is not my mission this is a mission of the world which has. been decided by the world health assembly you run for the bank of our marriage pocono ration in europe basically when you represent the world health organization in your many people in europe are very concerned that this mission wasn't independent wasn't objective and hasn't done a proper job in will right and i wanted as a regular station right to insist well what i'm doing see point number one degree too has been acting fast from the very moment that
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a report came out of one number one number 2 the degree to repin region is already acting upon lessons learned to number 3 we are taking forward already the most crucial issue which is to get out of the pandemic that is the top priority that i am busy with as the leader of the director europe in the 50 member states than that time and understand that i want to talk about the mission to woo han in the course of their visit your team poured cold water on the theory that the virus may have leaked from a wool hand laboratory and caused the outbreak there they called it highly unlikely and that too has provoked a wave of condemnation from scientists across the world why is the theory of a leak from a were on the barratry so unlikely as far as your team is concerned. well i would like to stick to my mandate of the 53 director european member states of course i'm in contact with my colleagues right and particularly the director of the
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director country office in china one of the best public health experts i know the geneva and i think really that we should give the mission the tone the quite this pace to finish the report which will be followed by a press conference and then all this questions ben can be asked i think until the report is finalized that we should give them the space to look at the different heap of this really well we already have plenty of statements from the team plenty of statements from the team leader which have caused concern so we have to deal with what has been said already it goes to the heart of the credibility of your organization when there were questions raised about safety issues in the laboratories. your team leader ben and barak said on february 8th that they were reassured by hearing of the high bio safety protocols hans laboratories but what
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else were the chinese going to tell them where they're going to admit them and there they had safety problems well how naïve this is this i was not that i yes meant to represent me. sure but let's be straight forward here i'm responsible for the 53 member states of the richard if you want you know concern about this notion 2 were are you telling me that you have no concerns about absolutely no concern we are meeting every 2 weeks with the director director general with the 6 region the rector's as the global policy group to exchange and look at the lessons the lessons are number one know any country know any organization was ready for a pandemic of such magnitude i think that is the 1st thing and we have to work on that one the 2nd issue is that on them prepared this is a global public goods and that's why established the pan european commission on
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health and sustainable development to keep a black health at the top of the political agenda and assert one which you have to work on is the rest of the people in science which are also discussed to dr anthony fauci recently because if the people lose the trust in science then we would be vulnerable for any future pandemic while the point is that the scientists are losing faith in you and there's international condemnation from scientists let me give you an example bruno can are from france's national center for scientific research said that by pouring cold water on scientific theories and pushing beijing's narratives the w.h.o. has been committing credibility suicide there were so many conflicts of interest obfuscations in your team investigation he said it's as if you'd asked iran's president to lead an international check on his nuclear program you can hardly be indifferent can you to the kinds of criticisms that you're getting from scientists
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. right we are absolutely not indifferent team i mean overly solid like this you sound like. no no absolutely not and absolutely not i mean leaving no one behind that's the core of the whole mission right and we need to look how to improve but let me remind you that degree cho it's like a good employee a government organization right so the member states are setting the agenda we try to and then to fight the best practices to share the best practices but we are not calling out no it's up to the member states if they would like to revise the international has a glacial but i think we should not underestimate the fantastic work which has been doing but experts by the staff of the ritual giving every ounce of themselves day and night to try to get out of this pandemic and this is still to go to distil to save lives and to suppress the transmission particularly with the rapid spread of
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the mutants do you trust china there's the w.h.o. trust china the over king all member state that's not what i asked you and little that's not what i asked you i asked you whether the w.h.o. trusts the information that china gives you it's a yes or no or helen say yes so there you go i stand right so china does not belong to the degree to a tipping region i mean that you have to acknowledge so i think that's am not talking about which you have not talk i'm talking about the w.h.o. as a whole the world health organization is a how would you represent in europe and i'm asking you a simple question which has a yes or no answer which you don't seem to want to answer does the w.h.o. trust what it the information it gets from china that's a pretty simple question yes or no. absolutely and we have longstanding relationship with all doubly chill member states we have country offices in 156
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countries the day after the 1st report was coming out of whom we were in touch with the chinese authorities but this is a evolutionary process even do one mission we not come back with all the answers more questions are giving rights to more questions and 2005 if i do as he said you don't have stood you correctly you're saying absolutely you do trust the information you get from china is that right the overworking to get their hand in hand with all the member states we have been asking data we have been asking service the old member states but don't press me please particularly on the china mission because we have a region that ector in the west pacific region it would be very unfair from b. to answer those question into detail i have not been there that would be speculation so i am here working day and night with the 50 member states of the
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dilatory region and i think i really would like to stick to that mandate well i want to ask you if you're so keen to say that you do trust china and you've been working closely with china china is one of the most strictly censored countries in the world so to accept anything they tell you without supporting evidence would be extremely risky you'd have to agree to that wouldn't you but i think again this is not a question to meet him right to me but it is a question to you i am what i keep telling you you represent the world health organization in europe you have to have a good message is important thing that has hit the hit the w.h.o. in many years. sure but this is a federated organization right you have 3 levels over there i think it's off to have to acknowledge is quite unique in the united nations so we have a director headquartered in geneva we have the 6 regional offices and i am here representing the world health organization about amending it from the 53 degrees
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member states and that's what we're doing we acted fast in the european region even before the 1st case was attempted in france we already put up 8 incident management structure and since then everyone has been a repro filed in the office over here learning lessons during the pandemic to improve public health infrastructure to get health at the top of the political agenda and to really move forward as the model and technical force towards universal health coverage yes but none of that is any good if you are not trusted if you are not trusted and you are not trusted at the moment and the u.s. state department acumen china china made with whom you're working closely it accused china of systematically preventing a transparent and thorough investigation of covert nineteen's origins choosing instead to devote enormous resources to deceit and this information now you as an organization has really sort of the time i say can i just finish the question
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please you as an organization have released information which china gave you without any warning that it comes from a sense and state so you are part of the problem aren't you if they have been if the u.s. state department is correct and china has been putting out in deceit and this information you have also put out deceit and this information. well the team you were mentioning a number of times the united states of america 2 weeks ago i had acting or investor of the united states of america here in the office reach was very clearly expressing the trust indeed a ship of the debris shorty's office for europe and he collaboration in many had to talk to the region director of the united states central control that dr anthony cho did i felt a very strong level of trust every single day i had a conversation with the prime minister to present the officer involved to use the
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civil society so maybe did we have to agree to disagree but i don't see how we can because the white house itself said last month as i pointed out earlier we have deep concerns about the way in which the early findings of the war have investigation were communicated and questions about the process used to reach them that doesn't sound as though the white house is very impressed with what with what you've been doing doesn't. disappear there is a process in place not him and i think we have to give the process ample time to do its job and meanwhile what we really have to focus on i mean we saw a decrease in the number of cases a decrease in the number of deaths but no we see a resurgence and we see a faster in smith's ability of the mutants the people are very very tired of the public has restrictions and i think this is the top priority as of today let's get this around the table and then after which we will do a forensic examination what happened what could have been done better what went
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wrong and we are very open minded after the able old break degree chill tremendously to 4 and bitter debate to a health emergency program but right no the focus is on saving lives and this can only be done as a core effort him leaving no one behind and this collective effort can only function if there's trust in it and i'm telling you and the scientists that i've been quoting and others have been. telling you that that trust isn't there and one of the reasons that trust isn't there is that during the course of this pandemic you have repeatedly thank to beijing for sharing the map of the genetic map of the virus immediately you said which wasn't true and you said its work and commitment to transparency were very impressive and beyond words that was a gross distortion wasn't it to praise china for transparency knowing how it's threatened and heresy those of its citizens who try to tell the truth that is a huge insult to those tourists is very important interest is very important i
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fully agree and you lot are very important in fact this is the course well i would have a different opinion here i mean the core of my vision for health in the region is all about what do the citizens expect from their health authorities and we have a very sort of truth truth that they absolutely truth expect the truth it's a human right to have and i'm visual to tell the. truth will come out in the let's be fair trade hasn't been coming up she says i'm probably you haven't been putting out the truth you've been thanking beijing for transparency when they've been arresting and intimidating people who try to tell the truth and you know that. well digits outside of the w. european region team so i don't want to speculate over here because i'm really working in the 53 countries but let's what is my concern my concern is that the loss of test of the citizens in science and public health because if we don't get
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that one corrected we would be very vulnerable for a future pandemic and that's what we're working very hard on with the youth with the civil society with the patron of this office that we have to bring in those voices and be very self-critical but right no i would like to repeat because it's so important is to ship press the fires because the fire is still out there tim and we really have to focus on that one and pull together people deserve the truth millions of people have over $100000000.00 people infected 2 and a half 1000000 people died people deserve the truth they haven't been getting the full truth either from china or from you how we can you possibly restore trust in your organization unless you're seeing to address that central issue yes when i am hearing different voices to be honest i'm definitely did need to be
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improvement of each agency but this lack of trust that you are citing in the w. rypien region is not what i'm hearing i have been calling 2 times at hoke my governing body board to look what we are doing to criticise if need and to go forward and in that sense trust yes i mean trust is very difficult to build it's easy to be lost it's a never ending story but right now doubly is the only milty lateral moral and technical force to inspire countries to achieve health for all and we can go to very difficult places that no one else can go including fragile states so that is very important how screw grasping good to have you on the program thanks very much indeed. my pleasure good.
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