population have stopped it's rocketing to the levels of italy old britain. now stockholm has become a haven for young people from other countries are scaping lockdowns. is there anything we can learn from the swedish way. that's a question i lost a daughter of one of europe's largest university hospitals in stockholm in a moment 1st let's take a closer look at how the relaxed swedes have been approaching the pandemic the government has drawn both international praise and criticism for its decision to stay open during the crisis and not all swedes are convinced the country took the right path. at 1st glance this looks like life before the pandemic friends hugging each other and going on a shopping spree in stockholm here lot to do this sweet and hasn't imposed a lockdown instead authorities rely on people to use common sense and these young people see this as an invitation to come visit corey maher says he came from

ireland 2 months ago to enjoy life and quickly found like minded people. feels good to get a coffee of. the jam in the fields. of the train without being accosted by possible police members or possible security teams it feels good to be a lot of other feels good to be like existing a young person should be existing many of the other guests in the stockholm hostel agree they've come here from across europe from italy france and germany many are fleeing the covert 1000 restrictions in their homelands. right here as we discovered that he was full of other ones like me but there was you know what the same results will simply. be a lie but they live in rooms like this with 8 beds and no windows for weeks at a time linda came here after graduating from high school. when i came here a week and a half ago and saw people in restaurants talking and eating together normally

without masks i thought i was dreaming on the other hand i can't forget what it's like in germany right now. sweden has both mandatory and voluntary restrictions residents who can are asked to stay home there's a ban on serving alcohol in the evening and masks are only recommended during rush hour there have been more than 12000 covert 19 deaths in a population of 10000000 this is left some doubtful when 82 year old goes to anderson fell ill doctors refused to give him intensive medical care but after pressure from his daughter he received treatment ok. i was angry and i wondered if this really is the right way to go why are we doing this it's not working. we know that young people can spread this disease and the whole thing is far from over it will keep us busy for some time to come but cory maher is enjoying the freedom of the swedish way like going to a cafe or

a bar it's something the irishman no longer wants to do without so he can't imagine returning home anymore instead he's looking for a job that will allow him to extend his stay in sweden. the hospital's doctor chris joins us from stockholm sweden as we heard in that report it came down to the door his decision as to her father's treatment but you say it should be a medical decision not to the relatives. well yeah well 1st of all i would like to say that i'm very happy that everything ended well with this family and it's very difficult for me to comment on the specific case like this but there are some general aspects of intensive care that i would like to comment on with respect to problems that have occurred during the pandemic as you alluded to in your questions deciding who are treated in what level of care and so in this based on medical considerations of course usually in the decisions are made on multidisciplinary

team or several decisions together decide what's best in terms of treatment for the specific patient the question that we're trying to address and when discussing this is what will benefit the patient the most and sometimes suggesting an individual to intensive care is considered worth a try and meaning that the expected outcome will outweigh the risk that the treatment will expose them to in the context of intensive care this means that. they have a good chance of surviving intensive care and returning to life with a reasonable quality of life if the team reaches the conclusion. that subjecting the patient to intensive care will increase suffering and not have the sought after consequence meaning survival they will decide not to move the patients to intensive care primarily because it would be unethical to increase suffering with without any hope of survival so as you understand these decisions are extremely difficult and

we include relatives in this discussion to make sure that they understand the reasoning behind the decisions but we never ask them to make these decisions since that cycle stress of having to do so and it would be to have a so yes it's a medical decision and i'm going to do what's best for the patient in the long run so tell me how it's going in sweden with this 3rd wave now hitting. well where it varies a lot throughout freedom in some regions the spread is increasing while in others the situation is under control here in stockholm where i am right now we're seeing an increase in the larger proportion of tests positive of all tests during the last 2 weeks and we'll see a worrying influx of patients to the hospital but we are nowhere near the levels of hospitalized patients that we saw during the 1st and 2nd wave and we also are beginning to see a positive effect on the vaccinations mortality from communist definitely

decreasing among those who have been most severely history ring the 1st and 2nd wave that is individuals who are older and live and elderly care facility phenomena to me happy about that but at the same time i worry about the pressure on the health care system building up again so tell me did sweden take the right approach in your opinion so what we did was in line with the swedish preparedness plan for influenza pandemics that we had in place before the pandemic the current pandemic and it was approved by our parliament some time before the congress pandemic and it kind of sets the basis for how to deal with this situation and we never enforce oppression. from the start we have approached a virus with efforts to mitigate this effect for sexing risk groups and making sure that the health care system would suffice and be able to function that's accessible

level for all have her needs including cancer and my colleague or function as well so the 2nd thing to understand this i feel sorry to say since day one emphasize the need for public health interventions that are sustainable. and we need to induce changes in behavior that public in the public that people would be able to keep up for a long long time. just to briefly ringback on through the question if i believe we have approached upon them the correct i would say yes i don't think suppression would have been say simple given the fact that the interventions needed to reach suppression would have been associated with too high risks for us as individuals and for society. for all marie just briefly what can other countries learn from sweden do you think. i. wouldn't even think about extending recommendations to any other nation we all do what we can to deal with this extremely difficult situation i'm not you wish and hope that we all will be able to look back on this awful time extract will we need to be better prepared and

i hope that we together. can form a plan on how to deal with pandemics in the future and that we do so with a more global perspective and come passing you know all parts of the world and our response to the real increase thank you very much for being on the show today joining us there from still have sweden. italy was home to a critical hot spot at the height of the pandemic 1st wave a year on and despite strict lock downs over $100000.00 people have now died from covered across the country the british variant of the very virus is spreading there at what doctors call an alarming rate the mutation now accounts for nearly 18 percent of all cases and could soon become dominant experts say italy's hospitals could be overwhelmed again. let's get you over to our science correspondent there it williams he's been fielding your questions on the coronavirus.

why is the mortality rate for europe and north america so much higher than in asia . after the 1st few months of 2020 most east asian countries got their pandemic problems pretty well under control and they've largely stayed that way to try to answer this i 1st checked the numbers which even if you take into account a lot of unknowns and discrepancies are quite striking there really are huge differences between continents all told there have been around 10 times more deaths in europe and the americas that in asia although more than 3 times as many people live on the world's largest continent him we don't know why but as always there are some interesting theories east asian countries in particular have largely avoided the worst ravages i think there's no question that that success is due at

least in part to wide acceptance of strict social measures when necessary but but some researchers think that can't explain all of the disparity one intriguing hypothesis is that historically east asia might simply be in error. of the world where respiratory viruses like sars could be 2 are more common in the environment so so spillover and minor outbreaks with novel pathogens like it happen they are more often but but go unnoticed those events would however according to the theory lead to higher levels of resistance and populations against those kinds of pathogens in general lowering disease severity for many people when a big outbreak event occurs that idea is pretty controversial and it's really

really hard to prove and since we know that mass wearing contacts racing and and target hard lockdowns work many experts still give most of the credit for the lower death tolls in east asia in particular to those kinds of measures. their programs there i'm bent as all and thanks for watching stay safe and secure against a. kick

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