by secretary blinking that european and american perspectives on how to deal with china converge i think from a european definition of china being a partner a competitor as a satanic rival at the same time i hear from secretary plink and a relationship with china will be competitive but it should be collaborative what it can be and adversity and what it must be i think this is a lot of common ground and i see we need to adjust it there again we're getting away from the subject of human rights and i understand you want to steer it away but the fact is you're becoming known for some pretty questionable ethics in china last year the boss of fox wagner her but this was asked about the wisdom of opening a factory in shin jang where up to a 1000000 we go muslims are incarcerated for indefinite periods affectively in labor camps and he said he didn't know anything about it is ignorance the best defense that your industry has these days. absolutely not i think. and you will not hold me accountable for any potentially misled opinion by any

senior german or businessmen what i'm saying is that taking this to extremes and say that simply decouple the relationship is not working for anybody in the world may remind you that it was the former prime minister of singapore who you go in foreign affairs made the point don't make a choose between a relationship with china or with the united states we need to be able i think to about 2. choices between respecting human rights or not caring about it it turns out the german firms are supplying the technical backbone for the huge textile industry also engine jank where hundreds of thousands of forced to work in the cotton fields do you like the optics of that particular scenario. i think we have we have just in acted alone or in the german parliament which requires. significant compliance of german companies also in the supply chain so throughout the world in securing human rights and labor standards and environmental

standards not necessarily to the delight of everyone in business i think we have come to a conclusion in a law that will be much more effective and that i'm pretty convinced that we will achieve many objectives in this regard not by government to government relations but ensuring that global companies in their supply chains are taken hold in responsible also by their customers for securing that minimum standards for labor and environmental safety. safeguarded across the world in their global supply chain is mr nick your firms have supplied machinery that was almost certainly being operated by slave labor in shin yang i asked you whether you like the optics of that particular scenario according to customs data obtained by the south china morning post sales of german parts for textile machinery engine john have gone up 30 times over the past 3 years 30 times while the reports of appalling human rights

abuses multiplied in that region week after week do you or do you not find that unacceptable. i find it hard to accept. not being able to do my own research on whether the specific thing that is. created or suggested there is is valid but it is a major issue of concern as you as you raise it as as i mentioned as if we are in acting legal requirements and obligations on companies to safeguard. respect for human rights and minimum labor standards across the world in their global supply chains that is something that we are just in acting that is i think not a question bilaterally applying to china but on a much more closely scale. and. that is what what we need to do it is it is a piecemeal process it is difficult it is challenging but what i'm telling you is that just trying to occupy the potential the potential presumptious moral highground as we do not do business with anyone in the world anymore is not

a strategy and it is that sometimes suggested with particular vigor. towards germany by those who would then prefer to fill the spots for that business themselves so i'm a bit opposed against hypocrisy in this regard that is these are standard that sort of like universally to everyone and where not one particular country should be singled out for other reasons well one country which is supplying more than anybody else to the textile industry in cian jank where slave labor is being employed deserves to be singled out doesn't it and that's your country and what you don't particularly find this is a proud moment to be confronted with this news that you are supplying these companies engine jank but your party seems to have its head in the sand where this is concerned doesn't where this whole issue is concerned well as well as the as the red line here you appear to have crossed it don't you by supplying this machinery

to these firms inching jan yes or no face simple i think we are in germany we are not. state run economy we are. a market economy we we apply a certain minimum standards i have just mentioned that we are in acting in new law with regards to global supply chains of german manufacturer us. so that is something that we are doing i think not every single ringback exports decision by a german company i think can immediately be attributed to. the german government when you can do something about outside you could do something about it if you want to and you can condemn it in your party and then it in your child's like will condemn it but you don't but you do and that's telling in itself isn't it. said we have just acted a new law on compliance to human rights standards in global supply chains we have work in particular with the textile industry to. have

a seal of approval for compliance with certain the labor standards avoidance of china's child labor never saying in places like bangladesh. or otherwise so that these are issues that are in a global economy that are more and more intertwined with continuously we have these difficult challenges but what i'm trying to work towards is that we use the leverage of international firms to. impose labor standards across the globe which i think i'm pretty sure will be much more successful as a long term strategy as trying to impose that by government to government relations ok and in a time we have left out of pocket in the time we have left mr nick i just want to look at what many people are calling the coded vaccine fiasco in germany it's not what you needed in the run up to parliamentary elections later this year and crucial regional contests this weekend there's a polls already show huge dissatisfaction 2 thirds of germans say there are unhappy

with key aspects of your covert policy particularly the slow backs in nation program front is you've become accident prone. doesn't the government's running out of steam well i think what i see is that for for understandable reasons i think patience is running out with people who have been. exposed to to lock down. policies for quite some time and there's a lot of impatience understandably there was a lot of hope regarding to vaccination i think some of the expectation of probably being unrealistic i've always taken the few if by media 2021 we would have universal vaccination this would be a very good result and i'm pretty convinced we will get there. i think they're going to different strategies are trying for that you have the main professional body for g.p.'s the german association of g.p.'s saying it was bad enough that the e.u. ordered too few vaccines too late but now we have all these jobs being stockpiled and used now that is unforgivable isn't it that's coming from the main you know we

were fashionable body. we will be opening the vaccination program and of this month's toward the g g piece and i think that will have to make a major contribution to those i think if 50000 g.p.'s every day rex and 820 people each we will have $5000000.00 vaccinations per week we will we will be able to complete this by by the end of the summer but it's also fair to say that for the g. piece. a minimum supply of. of vaccines per p. was necessary to involve them if we give 1010 vaccines per week to people put it into a very difficult decision we're now rolling this out more universally and i'm pretty sure we get there we took different decisions and some of that will have to be critically reviewed from hindsight to focus on that on the over 80 years old of those being in care homes we took some you don't have a long time around public perceptions you have these key elections coming up and

your party's reputation has been further damage by the scandal of 2 of your fellow m.p.'s forced to resign because they netted huge commissions on deals to procure mosques other scandals are also piling up along with the accusations that your party is shoddy and corrupt is it. i think we have we have seen individual cases that are totally ashamed me and totally unacceptable i think we need to go through a very clear process of making sure that compliance with asic of standards is is insured. i think this is nevertheless individual cases we should not try to use them in a democratic fashion to discredit parliamentarians and politicians who serve the public to its best interest but we are of course in a responsibility ourselves to to clean up whether unforgivable. violations of manhattan are a lot and he says a lot of things is filing up on there another cd you member of parliament axel

fisher is being investigated for us to spectate corruption prosecutors claim he and other former and current members of the understand receive voting bribe some azerbaijan he says the allegations are groundless another philip down 2 is under scrutiny for his lobbying work for us company is this the tip of the iceberg in your party what happened people got too greedy is it let me let me let me be very crystal clear on the other by john of the council of your issue i took over the position of axel fisher at 2800 to take care of the anti corruption investigation in the council of europe which we undertook where and a number of members were banned for life from the assembly both mr fischer and mr strengths were no no longer sent to to the council of europe by my party in 2018 both of them have not been renominated as candidates for the next parliamentary election sometimes in a democracy clean up takes takes a bit of time right ok and variously quaver with but having out of time where i

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