and you too. i was wrong i didn't need to 77 percent takes on slavery. of the single. women. obscene woman where suspect into prostitution stories 'd told him she forced me into 60. of the 77 percent of people 17 on t.w. . get out for the international media to york. and i would show you and big books what would happen if you have a we are not the ones who are making all this mess in the world isn't buying your denials mr shop we will continue the war if they don't withdraw from our country despite fresh diplomatic talks the 6 year war in yemen shows little sign of ending and aid agencies are warning of

a humanitarian catastrophe as food supplies dwindle and the covert pandemic takes hold my guest this week from the yemeni capital sana'a is hisham shara foreign minister of the self-styled government these forces found accused of committing shocking crimes and killing indiscriminately why won't they stop. welcome to convict on last month you told iranian t.v. that peace were open to a fair and on rable peace my question to you is how can there possibly be any feminists after the terrible crimes that you and the other combatants in this war have committed. ok. now it is the end of this crazy war which was started by the saudis what can you say more than that let's stop this war and the

less sit on the table and find this peace and try to mend what happened in the last few years so again you cannot just look back and see what have been done right now to make some of what you have done all the parties not only the guys in sana'a and then i think we can make some peace for the people of yemen not for the conflicting parties but when the crimes have been committed and is particularly gruesome crimes you don't think you can just walk away from them can you from torture indiscriminate killing obstruction of vital aid use of banned weapons recruitment of child soldiers arbitrary detention and forced disappearances it's proved some of these crimes represent massive violations of international human remanded tarion law for which you can be held accountable anywhere in the world do you think you can just walk away from these crimes. everyone should be held accountable for

what they have done and the last 6 years not only one of the parties and the others who have all the money and resources can hide their crimes those who did crimes should be really put in front of the justice to course what that means you will not want your movement same argument in front of the courts are you ready for that as i 1st. i mean 1st the national salvation government is not the who it is the national salvation government is a coalition of many political parties what we are talking about when you talk about work crimes those in the field who committed those crimes from all parties should be held accountable so let's not talk only about governments who appear on t.v. or go to meetings let's talk about those on the field who committed those crimes

and find who ordered them to do those crimes or you're trying to distance yourself from the who think crimes are you the fact is that your war has helped bring about the world's worst humanitarian disaster which you and the other warring parties have inflicted indiscriminately on civilians and anyone who got in your way to answer your question properly we have not started this war. this wasn't saying you'd started it not you but you're continuing it and you're huntin you and not your continuing to target civilians not your no no no we we are defending ourselves we are defending our people we are defending our country against the saudis and the america so again we will continue the war if they don't withdraw from our country and those crimes that you talk about let's look to them let's not just make it general so the crimes committed by your people know the crimes were committed by those who were the aggressors not by the emmy's who were defending

themselves let's look to the books look to the what happened in the last 6 years and then again yes we're ready to face the world and say who did what and what they deserve for such crimes mr sheriff country after country has condemned your intransigence the us said in february at the security council there can be no peace if the who thinks keep up their daily attacks against the yemeni people saudi arabia and other countries in the region you've said you want good relations with the us than accept an immediate and comprehensive cease far as they've demanded. we want a real peace not a peace paid for by the saudis and the americas when you talk about the world condemning the who these or the i mean the forces who are really fighting them you know why the saudis and the iraqis have spent billions of dollars to create

a certain picture about what happens in yemen and no one knows what happened in our country really the actual texture they committed most of the crimes in this country and we know what they have done and we are very documenting that think what is happening in the international arena is what the saudis have paid for and those countries who are condemning the host these are countries who have a lot of interest a lot of business with saudi arabia and the gulf countries well it's not just it's money she says here we have it is not just some trees that are especially if they're doing that it's not just the other countries it's the united nations and their investigators and the international human rights organizations that are pointing their finger firmly at you now even now even now despite the fresh diplomatic efforts that are going on your targeting mari to the east of sana'a where civilians are bearing the major impact of new fighting but that means nothing to you does it the more you kill the more territory you acquire the stronger your

position in the peace talks that's your calculation isn't it let's. let's clarify this to the world we are not the ones who are making all this mess in yemen it is those countries who are doing it not our country our people in yemen the national forces in sana'a are trying their best not to hurt their people we are really targeting the saudis we are targeting our enemies because they have destroyed our country when you talk about killing civilians we are not in the business of killing civilians and i can prove it to the world the world well you will continue as well as on your mind your the love isn't hiding your denial an official of the world the world you know we don't know your denials the no no no no no no the aisle we are here to talk to the world come to us the last time i happened to our country last year human rights watch one of the instruments of the un is one of the instruments of the saudis and

a minority is their power so that they're the enemy and how are you and so i guess you have to have a u.n. hasselblad who has sides the u.n. has condemned both son and talking to you and talking to you about what you are not just of doing last month human rights watch said your forces have shown a shocking disregard for the wellbeing and safety of civilians so who sees indiscriminate artillery and rocket attacks towards populated areas in mary have put displaced persons and local communities at severe risk that's how much you care about civilians isn't it. we care about our civilians and let's investigate of like kind of events let's not talk to the media off and on again again don't try to to change the picture the picture should be clear what you are trying now to say is what they talk about us come to us and we'll show you what they're doing to us we are not targeting our people if there are any kind of mistakes we will be

accountable for it and we will do proper things for it but again when you say you you you what about the other party you just shut your arms i recall talking to you here or there when i am certain to us about what you are sensible for i'm talking to you about what you're responsible for. we talk to the other parties in the conflict about what they're responsible for now millions millions face hunger in your country and you who think forces disrupt and interfere with the aid coming in why is that why why do you interfere with it why on earth would you prevent organizations like the world food program from doing their job and trying to feed people if there are any things like that it should be presented and people should be punished if they are doing something improper some punish them now will either not punish those ness of trying to stop the aid to the emmys we will let's investigate that not just because you said it or they said it in the international media let's put the books on the table as i said and looked at all the details

sometimes in the midst of all these things you try to make this kind of accusations without proof let the u.n. prove it and we will take the proper action against those who did such kind of things which stop the aid to our people. mr sheriff your forces haven't just restricted to humanitarian agencies you actually threaten them as well the u.n. experts said they documented intimidation and direct threats by your people against humanitarian personnel what business have you got threatening people who are trying to feed the hungry. i'm really. hearing something new from you for the 1st time that our people i mean our government or our personnel are threatening the 8 people if such things occur we will be ready to see it and punish those who are doing that the u.n. has named the who say officials responsible for issuing threats all of them are

from your so called supreme council for the management and coordination of humanitarian affairs those are include akhmed hammett after all most and how loose and to how our motel was you know these people don't you do you pay them to threaten the aid agencies i know them and we don't pay anyone to threaten anyone and i haven't seen that report i was i wish i can put my hand on it so then i can take some measures regarding this subject because this is my responsibility to follow up on the subject with the u.n. you don't read the reports from the u.n. because it's in the latest report from the panel of experts you know have their reporters no no no no no no no no we receive what they sent to us and we respond we have a special committee to respond so are you also recently had a list specially what you just mentioned mr sheriff are you also responding to the

reports of profiteering by your side the un says your top political leaders are competing to enrich themselves from limited state and public resources are you one of those top leaders who enriching yourself from this war. and there are no no no no you seem to be amused tightly you seem to be amused by hodges these are serious charges but as some said no no not a story or not amused but sometimes surprise now again this government let me tell you this government is composed of the g.p.c. our party and the hostess and carla we are doing our best as a government for the sake of the any people not for the horses or for the of or for any of the shows who might try to enrich themselves with this work we are ready we are ready and let me tell you the whole world we and the other party and the saudis and iraqis we are ready to be put in front of any kind of institution and see who

did what against the yemeni people we are in this war to defend our people not to get money or try to get some kind of power and everyone knows that and we have worked for the last 30 years with the yemeni government so again well yeah everyone knows that well you i just know that the un think the un panel of experts has tracked a number of illegal financial schemes that you're running to include evidence of money laundering scams creating false supply contracts to transfer huge amounts of cash to individual who see commanders and other officials are you personally involved in these how does all this corruption fit in with your honorable principle no. no no i am not involved in anything like that and the minister of foreign affairs and i represent my party the general congress party not how it is and anyone who is committing any kind of illegal action should be punished for it

whoever he is from whatever side they are again this war is not to get rich this war is to defend our borders our land and our really taken it in this country and anyone who might try to get behind this kind of accusations to forget about the saudis and immoralities crime will fail they will fail because we don't have enough resources to employ such committees of the un to know what others are doing but the time will come and we will have american companies working for us and looking to the other side what they have done how they got rich how this kind of art and deals has been done to kill the enemy people and get money out of it and then in front of the world they say that they are defending the legitimate government the real picture has been painted by un experts un investigators international human rights organizations who are on the ground who have evidence of fake financial

transactions and the seizure of assets the illegal seizure of assets belonging to other individuals and companies in september 29th in your specialized criminal court announced the confiscation of funds owned by 35 members of parliament who just didn't happen to agree with your politics and they ended up a year later being sentenced to death in the sense here but the trial was a political sham wasn't it why do you have political shams instead of fair trials whatever is said by you and it's not the full reality you said so. last month they disgraced one of their reports so again let's deal with then and there are groups and there are committees and then they can ask us and we can respond but not just to wait for their reports about what you have said about these kinds of actions i agree completely with you anything which is against the law should not be permitted and if anyone has something to complain about put it on the media they always have

operators they have to leave it on the line about the militia they have planned explain about and there's an even darker side to that they know it and that's the heart and that i'm talking about your detention centers now the independent yemeni human rights group might sound as charted some of the worst excesses by who says security especially by the security and intelligence agencies prisoners it says have been subjected to multiple forms of torture including amongst other things nail removal severe beatings and electric shocks you happy about that you happy about that kind of treatment no i'm not happy at all i am against any kind of actions which might really go to see this kind of our human crimes so why don't cherish signing up i should be why don't you do something about what you want me to do. stop them you know that i really have 5 years here is not

enough i mean i get no no no no no no no no no no let's go to the right way why we are being blocked here in santa for the last 6 years that has to be you and test me to the un security council and i will talk to them not but we are in santa and we cannot take a plane to london or to new york to talk to everyone in the world you are putting us here in santa so you can talk about whatever you want and here we cannot respond to the world we are reading or your having a child you very strong now should of less than half you have a chance to respond now and since 2016 i was on a has registered 60 no no no of arbitrary detention 770 k. no been forced to submit 344 days so here you number out is are they are numbers semi-solid sorry you had it you know your numbers are nice as i said get asked that arse get us to the international media get us to your capitals

and i will show you and thick books what is happening in yemen not what the un says i get the saudis to allow me today to take a plane and go to london and get you all of our pictures our books and talk in front of your people in england or in the us they don't allow us to take even a small flight to djibouti or other places we are locked here in santa and you are making our own picture your own movie and thus to cut it off and try to make us look like criminals the criminals are the saudis the emeritus and those who support them and the us and and the u.k. not the american people not the prettiest little the ohio nobody has i'm guessing mr right i realize the investments in this war don't have a case to answer they do i'm asking you on the case of your guy your so elation in particular what the who's the forces have been doing talk and the abuse of

wholesale abuse of human rights that's all carried out by who's security forces you don't want to talk about it i understand that. there is a no no i don't know about it you know i know how you were talking about it you know you have a sense. if you know and i'm not going excuses that i read the reports of the u.s. this is but this is this is part of the story what the u.n. says this is part of the story listen to what we will say to you and your homes and your places out of yemen you are trying to keep us here in santa and talk about everything in the world there is a big media campaign paid by the saudis by the iraqis even by the british to sell their weapons to show the world the sun and the hoses are unsubtle are the only criminals who committed things in this war you committed some of that work through your british weapons through the american weapons so again let's open it for the whole world who are you and what else can one take another side we are received in

this war as you well know it's not just your side knowing him then now the other now 30 condemned as well threesome referring mr sharp with a report you don't you don't you don't say you are not saying the whole truth to the world through your programs the u.n. but the saudis and the blacklist 3 years ago that paid money that lifted them from the box and this is what will happen the saudis will pay a lot of money with the americas and you will lift them from the books of the crimes they have done and they will keep the books for our people here in china of what they get money talks this is a chance to share our human rights groups have noted another pattern of your oppression and that includes sexual violence and rape directed specifically at women who are politically active the un has named a senior who see official sue towns are being alleging his involvement in these methods is he a friend of the also a colleague of yours. no i'm

a civilian now he's been on the un sanctions list is trying to 15 do you ignore the very serious accusations against him entire rector of your criminal investigation department still you don't know he's really had nothing to do with it are serious allegations i don't i don't know the person but i read the reports about sol turns up and he died about a week ago he died here in santa and again as i said let's open the books see what everyone did here and there there is an asylum to show you are taken suddenly he's charged lasater slowly with the sheriff there is no sign that you are taking any of these charges seriously the un has confirmed. and december 29 teams who 3 individuals rate 6 women in detention facilities in and around santa several were raped on multiple occasions over extended periods do you enjoy being known for these crimes 1st i'm not

a hoodie when you speak about the whole thesis i am a g.p.c. member another part of your coalition i represent our city of coalition we. yes yes the correlation here said a lot of your assertion israel the part of you only something and the other let's get part of the coalition again yes but again let me tell you something we did see some of the reports of the sanction committee the one of the u.n. and i take those reports and i sent letters to every department or the ministry concerned this is my role in this whole thing the ministry of foreign affairs cannot be really some kind of a decision making agency who can impose things on local institutions so we do our shop again anything like what you have said should be published should the world know about it not keep it only in the desks of the un and the other ministers i mean institutions publish it to the world let them know what do you going to do

about iran's very serious charges aren't you concerned about them what are you going to do about these charges facing the who thinks we are a member of your car you have us our part what are you going to do look i mean ok we will tell them what they have what we have received as accusations against still and then nothing is aisha's and then nothing will happen now you know who said you know who's going to investigate what are you guys doing is ok peace talks in and muska where we'll investigate anyone who did anything to any yemeni citizen i can assure you of this if i'm not doing it other people will do it mr sheriff given everything the world now knows about s.s. the brutality of the and the corruption during this war i'm wondering what a peace time who think government would look like is specially one that is charged with torturing its opponents stealing their assets and raping politically active women does not qualify to take part in

a peacetime government in yemen. ask your friends stand their occurrence what they are talking to them in moscow to why where they are trying to take them on the table and deal with them nicely to get them to stop firing scud missiles to the saudis you have to know this interests make it to the ends of all wars talk to the americans ask them of their do that while there is all these reports why you and the media are trying to show something for a certain purpose we tell you that we have not we have not done anything that might create hate against us as a government insana well defending our country is human like the abuse of the money he will run when the seals are of no concern of no consequence only human rights abuses that are listed and all and all these killings and all these killings by your playing by the saudis and american forces and does that out of line by how

doing right is abuse of us 300000 i know one of saddam has committed crimes that's our job for a long formal rights abuses daunte but that doesn't but. daunte but the human rights against what has happened to us the destruction and the killing of about 350000 yemenis by the saudi planes on them out of the planes and you come here to talk about let's say kinds or hundreds of people we will investigate everything but at the same time you should be accountable you know the world including britain and the u.s. and the saudis and the monarchies for the hundreds of thousands of people who were killed here in yemen why we want to say that we got the rockets on our heads so you talk you don't talk about that you don't you talk about the thought sharing you talk about the problems that happened yes these things we will investigate but again we need investigation on the killing of hundreds of thousands of off people and you should come to sanaa i know you're not and that's how the u.n.

has talked about the only one has demanded that as well thank you mr shut up shut up thanks for being on conflict so thank you thank you thank you we'll see you again. on i'm. going on and on and on about. on about. the and. the big. banks are. going to. the alabama going to cut to a. democrat

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