the single. women. obscene that women where tricked prospect unsourced into prostitution their stories busy must be told and she forced me interesting stories. of the 77 percent of people 17 on t.w. . get out through the international media to york public health and i will show you in big books what is happening to you haven't we are not the ones who are making all this mess in the end the world isn't buying your denials mr sharp we will continue the war if they don't withdraw from our country despite fresh diplomatic talks the 6 year war in yemen ringback shows little sign of ending and aid agencies are warning of a humanitarian catastrophe as food supplies dwindle and the covert pandemic takes hold my guest this week from the yemeni capital sana'a is hisham sharma foreign

minister of the self-styled government forces stand accused of committing shocking crimes and killing indiscriminately why won't they stop. welcome to conflict zone last month you told iranian t.v. that the who were open to a fair and all rable peace my question to you is how can there possibly be any feminists or no after the terrible crimes that you and the other combatants in this war have committed. ok. now it is the end of this crazy war which was started by the saudis what can you say more than that let's stop this war and the less sit on the table and find this peace and try to mend what happened in the last few years so again you cannot just look back and see what have been done

right now to make some of what you have done all the parties not only the guys in sana'a and then i think we can make some peace for the people of yemen not for the conflicting parties where when the crimes have been committed and is particularly gruesome crimes you don't think you can just walk away from them can you from torture indiscriminate killing obstruction of vital aid use of banned weapons recruitment of child soldiers arbitrary detention and forced disappearances it's proved some of these crimes represent massive violations of international human remanded tarion law for which you can be held accountable anywhere in the world do you think you can just walk away from these crimes. everyone should be held accountable for what they have done and the last 6 years not only one of the parties and the others who have all the money and resources can hide their crimes

those who did crimes should be really put in front of the justice to courts where that means again you telling them and your movement say all nachman be put in front of the courts are you ready for that ice i am 1st and i mean 1st the national salvation government is not the who it is the national salvation government is a coalition of many political parties what we are talking about when you talk about work crimes those in the field who committed those crimes from all parties should be held accountable so let's not talk only about governments who appear on t.v. or go to meetings let's talk about those on the seal who committed those crimes and find who ordered them to do those crimes so you are trying to distance yourself from the those who think crimes are you the fact is that your war has helped bring about the world's worst humanitarian disaster which you and the other warring

parties have inflicted indiscriminately on civilians and anyone who got in your way to answer your question properly we have not started this war. this wasn't saying you'd started it not you but you're continuing it and you're huntin you and not your continuing to target civilians not your normal no no no we we are defending ourselves we are defending our people we are defending our country against the saudis and the iraqis so again we will continue the war if they don't withdraw from our country and those crimes that you talk about let's look to them let's not just make it general so the crimes committed by your people know the crimes were committed by those who were the aggressors not by the emmy's who were defending themselves let's look to the books look to the what happened in the last 6 years and then again yes where ready to face the world and say who did what and what they

deserve for such crimes mr sheriff country after country has condemned your intransigence the us said in february at the security council there can be no peace if the who thinks keep up their daily attacks against the yemeni people saudi arabia and other countries in the region you said you want good relations with the us than accept i mean immediate and comprehensive cease far as they've demanded. we want a real peace not a piece paid for by the saudis and the americas when you talk about the world condemning the who these or the i mean the forces who are really fighting them you know why they're the saudis and the iraqis have spent billions of dollars to create a certain picture about what happens in yemen and no one knows what happened in our country really the actual picture they committed most of the crimes in this country

and we know what they have done and we are very documenting that think what is happening in the international arena is what the saudis have paid for and those countries who are condemning the hope these are countries who have a lot of interest a lot of business with saudi arabia and the gulf countries well it's not just that it's money she says here we have it is not just there are some trees that are especially if they're doing that it's not just the other countries it's the united nations and their investigators and the international human rights organizations that are pointing their finger firmly at you now even now even now despite the fresh diplomatic efforts that are going on your targeting mari to the east of sana'a where civilians are bearing the major impact of new fighting but that means nothing to you does it the more you kill the more territory you acquire the stronger your position in the peace talks that's your calculation isnt it. let's. let's clarify this to the world we are not the ones who are making all this mess in

yemen it is those countries who are doing it not our country our people in yemen the national forces in sana'a are trying their best not to hurt their people we are really carpeting the saudis are targeting our enemies the cause they have destroyed our country when you talk about killing civilians we are not in the business of killing civilians and i can prove it to the world the world well you will continue as well i'm going your the european high your denial i'm a socialist the world the world you know we don't know your denials the no no no no no no the aisle we are here to talk to the world come to us the last time i happened to our country last march human rights watch one of the instruments of the un is one of the instruments of the saudis and they merit is their power so that the very end of our un so i guess you have to have a un hasselblad who has sides the un has condemned both south and i'm talking to

you and i'm talking to you about what you are in the midst of doing last month human rights watch said your forces have shown a shocking disregard for the wellbeing and safety of civilians who think indiscriminate artillery and rocket attacks towards populated areas in mary have put displaced persons and local communities at severe risk that's how much you care about civilians isn't it. we care about our civilians and let's investigate like a lot of events let's not talk to the media off and on again don't try to to change the picture the picture should be clear what you are trying now to say is what they talk about us come to us and we'll show you what they're doing to us we are not targeting our people if there are any kind of mistakes we will be accountable for it and we will do proper things for it but again when you say you you you what about the other party you just shut your arms i recall talking to him of the well i

am talking to us about what you are sensible for i'm talking to you about what you're responsible for. we talk to the other parties in the conflict about what they're responsible for now millions millions face hunger in your country and your who 3 forces disrupt and interfere with the aid coming in why is that why why do you interfere with it why on earth would you prevent organizations like the world food program from doing their job and trying to feed people if there are any things like that it should be presented and people should be punished if they are doing something improper some punish them now we started all punishments ness of trying to stop the aid to the emmys we will let's investigate that not just because you said it or they said it in the international media let's put the books on the table as i said and looked at all the details sometimes in the midst of all these things you try to make this kind of accusations without proof let the u.n.

prove it and we will take the proper action against those who did such kind of things which stop the aid to our people. mr sheriff your forces haven't just restricted to humanitarian agencies you actually threaten them as well the u.n. experts said they documented intimidation and direct threats by your people against humanitarian personnel what business have you got threatening people who are trying to feed the hungry. i'm really. hearing something new from you for the 1st time that our people i mean our government or our personnel are threatening the 8 people if such things occur we will be ready to see it and to see punish those who are doing that the u.n. has named the who say officials responsible for issuing threats all of them are from your so called supreme council for the management and coordination of humanitarian affairs those are include akhmed how made up the most and how loose

and to how our motel arco you know these people don't you do you pay them to threaten the aid agencies i know them and we don't pay anyone to threaten anyone and i haven't seen that report i was i wish i can put my hand on it so then i can take some measures regarding this subject because this is my responsibility to follow up on the subject with the u.n. you don't read the reports from the u.n. because it's another latest report from the panel of experts you know have their reporters no no no no no no no no we receive what they sent to us and we respond we have a special committee to respond so i call you are you also received i have a list specially what you just mentioned mr sharp are you also responding to the reports of profiteering by your side the u.n. says your top political leaders are competing to enrich themselves from limited

state and public resources are you one of those top leaders who enriching yourself from this war. and there are no no no no you seem to be amused tightly you seem to be amused by hodges these are serious charges but as some said no no no no no sorry not amused but sometimes surprised now again this government let me tell you this government is composed of the g.p.c. our party and the hostess and starla we are doing our best as a government for the sake of the any people not for the horses or fighting for or for any of the shows who might try to arrange themselves with this work we are ready we are ready and let me tell you the whole world we and the other party and the saudis and the iraqis we are ready to be put in front of any kind of institution and see who did what against the yemeni people we are in this war to defend our people not to get money or try to get some kind of power and everyone

knows that and we have worked for the last 30 years with the yemeni government so again when you say everyone knows that we are you asking us that the un think the u.n. panel of experts has tracked a number of illegal financial schemes that you're running to include evidence of money laundering scams creating false supply contracts to transfer huge amounts of cash to individual who see commanders and other officials are you personally involved in these how does all this corruption fit in with your honorable principle no. no no i am not involved in anything like that and the minister of foreign affairs and i represent my party the general congress party not how it is and anyone who is committing any kind of illegal action should be punished for it whoever he is from whatever side they are again this war is not to get rich this war is to defend our borders our land and our really dignity in this country

and anyone who might try to get behind this kind of accusations to forget about the saudis and immoralities crime will fail they will fail because we don't have enough resources to employ such committees of the un to know what others are doing but the time will come and we will have american companies working for us and looking to the other side what they have done how they got rich how this kind of our deals have been done to kill the amnesty for and get money out of it and then in front of the world they say that they are defending the legitimate government the real picture has been painted by un experts un investigators international human rights organizations who are on the ground who have evidence of fake financial transactions and the seizure of assets the illegal seizure of assets for longing to other individuals and companies in september 29th in your specialized criminal

court announced the confiscation of funds owned by 35 members of parliament who just didn't happen to agree with your politics and they ended up a year later being sentenced to death in a sense here but the trial was a political sham wasn't it why do you have political shams instead of fair trials whatever is said by you and it's not the full reality you said so. last month they disgraced one of their reports so again let's speak with then and there are groups and their committees and then they can ask us and we can respond but not just to wait for their reports about what you have said about this kind of actions i agree completely with you anything which is against the law should not be committed if anyone has something to complain about put it on the media fact the whole world i have no doubt that they have the economy going about the militia they have plenty complain about and there's an even darker side to let's say the us i'm not going to

have that and that i'm talking about your detention centers now the independent yemeni human rights group my town has charted some of the worst excesses by who thinks security especially by the security and intelligence agencies prisoners it says has been subjected to multiple forms of torture including amongst other things nail removal severe beatings and electric shocks you happy about that you happy about that kind of treatment no i'm not happy at all i am against any kind of actions which might really go to see this kind of i would say human crimes so why don't cherry sign about i relations should be why don't you do something about them what you want me to do. stop them you know that a real 5 years here is nothing i know i mean i get no no no no no no no no no no let's go to the right way why we are being blocked here in santa for the last 6

years take us to the un that's me to the un security council and i was talk to them not but we are in santa and we cannot take a plane to london or to new york to talk to everyone in the world you are putting us here in santa so you can talk about whatever you want and here we cannot respond to the world we are reading or your having a child you very strong now should have you have a chance to respond now and since truly 16 i will know has registered 60 no no no of arbitrary detention 770 k. know of in force just a mere $344.00 days are. numbered route is our way or numbers there marseilles are very young hearty you know the line numbers are nice as i said get us to get us get us to the international media get us to your capitals and i will show you and thick books what is happening in yemen not what the un says i get

the saudis to allow me today to take a plane and go to london and get you all of our pictures our books and talk in front of your people in england or in the us they don't allow us to take even a small flight to djibouti or other places were out of luck here in santa and you are making your own picture your own movie and thus the capitals and try to make us look like criminals the criminals are the saudis emeritus and those who support them and the us and and the u.k. not the american people not the british people they are all nobody is suggesting mr wright has resulted in a battle in this war don't have a case to answer they do i'm asking you know the case of your guys your solution in particular what the who's the forces have been doing talk and the abuse of wholesale abuse of human rights that's all carried out by who's security forces you don't want to talk about it i understand that. there is

a no no i don't know about it you know i know how you were talking about it you know the europeans were ignoring i'm not going excuses that i read the reports of the us this is but this is this is part of the story what the un says this is part of the story listen to what we will say to you and your homes and your face is out of the am and you are trying to keep us here in china and talk about everything in the world there is a big media campaign paid by the saudis by the emeritus even by the british to sell their weapons to show the world the sun and the hoses are unsubtle are the only criminals who committed things in this war you committed some of that war through your british weapons through the american weapons so again let's open it for the whole world who are you what else can one take another side we are received in this war as you well know it's not just your side knowing him there now the other no i was sorry condemned as oil reserve for it mr sharp read the report you don't you

don't you don't. you are not saying the whole truth to the world through your programs the un put the saudis and the blacklist 3 years ago that take money that lifted them from the docks and this is what will happen the saudis will pay a lot of money with the americas and you will list them from the books of the crimes they have done and they will keep the books for our people here in santa of what they did money talks and it is a sure enough to share our human rights groups have noted another pattern of your oppression and that includes sexual violence and rape directed specifically at women who are politically active the un has named a senior who see official sue transacting alleging his involvement in these methods is he a friend of the also a colleague of yours. i know i'm a civilian he's been on the un sanctions list is trying to 15 do you ignore the very serious accusations against him he thought rector of your criminal

investigation department still you don't know is really have nothing to do with these are serious allegations i don't i don't know the person but i read the report about 4 times i've been and he died about a week ago he died here in santa and again as i said let's open the books see what everyone did here and there there is another side to show you are taken suddenly on his charge lasater silly mr sheriff there is no sign that you are taking any of these charges seriously the un has confirmed that but i mean it is a necessity. and december $2923.00 individuals rate 6 women in detention facilities in and around sana several were raped on multiple occasions over extended periods do you enjoy being known for these crimes 1st i'm not a hoodie when you speak about the whole these have a g.p.c. number another part of your coalition a representative of coalition we. yes yes coalition air says a lot of your

a living in israel part of your knowledge something and other i get part of the coalition again yes but again let me tell you something we will see some of the reports of the sanctions committee the one of the u.n. and i take those reports and i sent letters to every department or the ministry concerned this is my role in this whole thing the ministry of foreign affairs cannot be really some kind of a decision making agency who can impose things on local institutions so we do our shop again anything like what you have said should be published should the world know about it not keep it only in the desks of the un and the other. institutions publish it to the world let the world are you going to do about iran's very serious charges aren't you concerned about them what are you going to do about these charges facing the who think we are a member of your car you have us our parts what are you going to do i mean we will

tell them what they have what we have received as accusations against still and then nothing how hard it is asians and they're not going to handle don't know who said you know who's going to investigate what are you going to investigate the stocks in moscow where well and for sygate anyone who did anything to any yemeni citizen i can assure you of this if i'm not doing it other people will do it mr sheriff given everything the world now knows about the brutality of who see and the corruption during this war i'm wondering what a peace time who seek government would look like especially one that is charged with torturing its opponents stealing their assets and raping politically active women does not qualify to take part in the peacetime government in yemen. ask your friends than americans what they're talking to them in moscow why why they are trying to take them on the table and deal with them nicely to get them to stop

firing scud missiles to the saudis you have to know this interests make the ends of all wars after the americans ask them of their do that well there is all these reports why you and the media are trying to show something for a certain purpose we tell you that we have not we have not done anything that might create hate against us as a government and santa well defending our country is human how do you view sunday morning if you will run weapons these are of no concern of no consequence only human rights abuses that i've listed and all and all these killings and all these killings by your planes by the saudis and american forces and does that add a blind eye on who or how human rights abuse among 300000 no wonder so that has committed crimes does not justify long formal rights abuses don't burst don't.

daunte but they're human rights against what has happened to us the destruction and the killing of about 350000 yemenis by the south the place on them out of the plains and you come you have to talk about let's say tens or hundreds of people we will investigate everything but at the same time you should be accountable you know the world including britain and the u.s. and the saudis and the amount of this for the hundreds of thousands of people who were killed here in yemen why we want to send it we get the rockets on our heads so you talk you don't talk about that you don't you talk about the torturing you talk about the problems that happen yes these things we will investigate but i guess we need investigation on the killing of hundreds of thousands of people and you should come to sanaa i know you're not and you want this i'm a you i know how to talk about it because the only one has demanded that as well thank you is the shut up shut up thanks for being on conflict so thank you thank you thank you we'll see you are going. on and on

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