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tv   Frag den Lesch  Deutsche Welle  April 17, 2021 9:15pm-9:31pm CEST

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next is the story a photographer atar the news will be back at the top of the hour in the meantime you can get all the latest headlines on our web site that is d.w. dot com or follow us on twitter and instagram i didn't mean this on the go for that for me and the entire team in the newsroom thank you so much for a company. like . usual worries about the. need to. honey over on the green friends post and to me it's clear remains true. join me for a deep dive into the green transformation remain for you for the council. i
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imagine the boss the great franco iranian photojournalist 20 years ago we made a book together. to go through photograph the world for 60 years to bearing witness to all the major events of our time since nasa needed by his unique vision in a career i suggested we make a film about his work he said it was too soon and refused to be filmed in the truth he said one only made such a film right before dying from. new features the. 20 years went by and the boss said if you still want to make the film now is the time we don't have much time find a team fast and we'll start. abide by
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a bus. let us remember a boss died a week after we finished shooting the smell. went out ok ready ready to go by spoke about take one. there should you have any of them or what the of them in the halls was on 3 i really became a photographer in 1968 when i saw this photo a lot i knew i'd be a photographer because my own future is that it is there when they seek to create your own that's what i call
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a suspended moment remotes responded. to their version of buying superman not freezing a situation i'm suspending it for the lead because i wanted to see mike the subject kept doing things after the picture of all her life worth of. about a boss suggested we make the film together he knew he wouldn't see up and actions of and i'd have to do that alone tell minnesota. i asked him to use that hand of his symbolic i mean it's. like here also sadly violence and fear is the biggest chapter in my work there won't come i. buskers your book will be your loss because i've
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covered a lot of violence. i admit that i was fascinated with violence by sort of all of you also cannot just the flat out violence of battlefield it's a revolution. but also violence toward animals put on sound. live your laws over islands of religion you lost me or when i started my work on god over the photos speak for themselves you were still your or cliff would. hope how i would be fishing but when you're working you don't think there's no time for emotions. i must have an emotional screen between what i see and myself so the budget doesn't mean i'm emotional less it just means i react later made to what goes into my subconscious. when it comes back.
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nightmares like time bombs. the bomb but they'll go. through is what i put up that emotional scream but sometimes when i saw children suffering i broke down electric car it happened several times. this was in sarajevo and the medical they brought in the body of a boy killed by a serbian bomb. i couldn't help it but it. was headhunted it's hard to comprehend that you were there at that age at 26 photographing someone else's war but how did you handle that you want to go driven as a photographer you just do it's the job i mean you don't ask those questions although
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it's a job you don't ask those questions you posed were talking about courage about how it takes courage could courage often comes down to a lack of imagination he was. very often. said but at that age you think you're immortal. so she didn't evolve him almost i repeatedly remember becoming mortal during the iranian revolution in 197879 and you see it's on these that. when i run out in the morning so i'm going to i wasn't sure i'd make a. call or through very over here when i go to vietnam or bangladesh i'm concerned otherwise i wouldn't go because i concerned as a photographer and the only hope but in iran it was different i was both concerned and involved because it was my country my people my revolution 1st before it
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was hijacked so you believed in it i was you know of course but maybe there was a tipping point for me a lot so i must be able to walk and this was the moment i remember it clearly here could who are they sick of committing the 1st 4 generals of the shah's army who were executed after a secret trust i thought about us and this is no longer europe aleutian covered as best you can but it's not yours. since i want to call you british open this was before the revolutions victory line from you can see a woman being lynched because the militants thought she was a supporter of the shah in the super. bowl i remember well they were running over in korea and i was running backwards and taking photographs. with it it would come and play and there's always someone who has no photos no photos and i responded in
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processing off r.c.u. story history already has supported work history flipped a switch in their heads as though the photo wouldn't be published right away so the political police wouldn't round them up at night he could have put he's quitting the escape by going i said history they let me be going to see quantities is simple these 2 are you missing. look problem said taking the picture wasn't the problem according to the problem was whether to show it right away i looked it could see my friends and i am going to meet at night and talk about our days. it was my friend said abbas you can't show that photograph from crisis to tarnishing the revolution but you're going to time people said the violence only came from the shows a regime to regime show you can't show that 2 of them ok so i said sorry but although i may be for the revolution it was early on as you put it but i'm also a photographer with a responsibility as a journalist and a target for myself and to my readers there's already said i'm showing it right
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away. is it with we love won't quit with sweet. i'm under enough i'm the at one point the woman fainted or do we. not me the army intervene so. i was in for a cold i was taking a picture on a slide because it was dangerous if you even if you don't want to and a soldier saw me and came at me with a grenade on his rifle i was afraid he would set it off and if he had i wouldn't be here. i didn't give him the history span i just left the ship why do you suppose but i thought if i woke. up miserable at worst day of filming and it just didn't i tried not to push a boss to talk if he didn't want to i had this strange feeling that we were all trying to get our parents too small.
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and old or obese they refine that is not and separate a street. love your long. who was it good to require not only your but. says he would be here for the upkeep of about. so when you call pollution. but triple vision it is a. rather well know. how you. put your foot was in the 1st photos of khomeini. well mobile home you can really see that tension inside. your personality. your
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bangladesh in bangladesh. in many you can see this demonstration by islamists who wanted to real law instead of the civil code so critical to the media and called again their faces say it all. and then of course the consequences are supposed to be up that's why this photo comes afterwards. surgery number the consequences were that this young man lost both his legs because by not explode a bomb in a movie theater because movies are illicit he lost both legs. and you should know muslims don't have a monopoly on fanaticism it is. sit there seventies this is a snake handler service not to say a mouse it's a cult which thinks that if you're a believer they're getting this from the bible and nothing can happen to you just so that i be able to see only clearing poison or get bitten by
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a better miss nakes and be just fine by this when you move during the service with music playing and you get out of venomous snake and pass it around all this when you move the bus the moment it's quite something a. question or. photograph or graph is a greek for someone who writes with light clearly clean but it can also mean someone who draws with light will obviously got them oh so you keep they seem. so. obvious almost that many of the. new year i supply them with employee roles and so many of you. think i lace it all up i mean i would . in 3 percent if i the highlights. of the moment was when i was
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a nothing left of. us he told matter as girly man i saw. merely what. he also. left it up to me healy who has opened warmly showed. the lapita people who sit on a list i was able to call you. and all of us here we can move on to humiliation. in sheets and there was one situation in which i really felt what the palestinians feel that sort of daily humiliation to me is sure which here it was in gaza city gaza. is a less street after an attack the israeli army had cut off the road. what is you know so the palestinians have to travel along the beach if i was with my driver and i said stay exodus sigs that he says you know now this is judgment day you know
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no solution on the on. and i was of course once you know my sense is the greatest humiliation in my series in 1978 before the iranian revolution in apartheid era south africa. goes into writing club you see blacks white woman and in need everyone in their place. or show put you see a police dog training school in me says the astonishing thing was that it was all the targets were black and all my little maid thought that was normal. enough for talkies somebody see to me the photo that symbolized apartheid in the humiliation of apartheid was this one on one corner and then there's a colonel from the black police academy. kid the one standing in front of
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a shirtless future policeman sitting there yeah in fact i didn't suggest going there was a they offered us and some as i arrived an information service said i was welcome mr abbas how about photographing the police academy i thought would. i smell propaganda. because you and i decided to go and ask for something in exchange because they were proud of their school. so we went to visit the school they could know what to do they were all running working out. and then something clicked in my head to click moment that it wasn't the right set up so it was interesting because you thought i needed to pose them. known so long i asked the police academy director why don't you stand in front of your students. here look at the guy from the information service or spy agency you gave me ok i go so he stood up in front with his stick as.

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