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tv   Mehr Sinn statt Gier  Deutsche Welle  April 17, 2021 9:30pm-10:01pm CEST

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you see to me the photo that symbolized apartheid the humiliation of apartheid was this one on one color and then there's a kernel from the black police academy. kid the one standing in front of a shirtless future policeman. there yeah in fact i didn't suggest going there they offered. and soon as i arrived the information service said welcome mr abbas how about photographing the police academy i thought would. i smell propaganda. because you and i decided to go and ask for something in exchange because they were proud of their school. so we went to visit the school because they could all want to leave they were all running working out. and then something clicked in my head to the click moment there it wasn't the right set up this year so it was interesting but i needed to pose them for if i smooth nonchalantly i asked the police academy director why don't you stand in front of your students particularly when you got
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here look at the guy from the information service or spy agency you gave me ok i go so he stood up in front with his stick as he and i said i don't like some stick. it said what we did really cause one who came to symbolize apartheid. i think they deeply regret it having invited me to that school because the photo was on magazine covers. for 2 of the grouchy early here member i mean i'll get the but i knew i didn't saw they'd made a mural of it in new york. interestingly i saw the colonel again 20 years later a magazine of a magazine i'd been looking for people from famous photographs let me found him he had become a general. retired and all of what he really is holding a magazine with his picture on it except what to. look at he wasn't remotely fanatic he was delightful affable. presented and ethical
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problem. is could i have the right to represent him and use. some symbol of apartheid when he wasn't a bad guy. in fact he said i made a mistake what would you say below we should have mixed with the blacks not separated them except by law goes with you i wasn't photographing the man because for the 1st year i was photographing the uniformly that you know the state he represented as he was what interests me not just here but in every situation is in the characters themselves. so i only photograph them once unless they're my family and friends it's fleeting level for them i'm interested in what they represent. me scheme in their eyes says he hopes his aunt. don't so i'm not. and should she be. sorry.
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for. the 2 minutes please. ok when you're ready. are you ok. you are starting you slated. to say action. reminds us of the title to let your pain. that's what i'm mostly photographed painting not in fighters but in civilian hands because they suffer the most groups. and that you know me wraps one of my best photographs of the civil war it was in northern ireland. you know we see a woman who had been wounded by
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a bomb planted by the ira. earlier i said i wasn't interested in individuals but rather what they represent so if you will is old so for me. is it this one woman who is suffering or b.s.s. with whole story is her suffering symbolic go all those suffering during the war. but wasn't to me the universal is always the goal. when you aim for the universal you tend to forget about individuals but sometimes to those are. comments of those of us upset what did you do afterward. when you came home after
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a conflict a war where. did you talk about it with your loved one it was designed for a friend but also who should ask them they're not here he doesn't know. what well they say. they're just. until you ask them about it. scandalous or see one of your the cons. of us and the boss had 4 sons isn't it the eldest team and i mean it and the twins iran and iraq. but i think most of that although i don't know what army or names. the 1st 2 and i'm a rush the 2nd when when he disappeared covering wars how did that go or at about 12 we made him promise to stop covering wars he did and 3 months later he went to the gulf war and when you asked him that. yes. when we reached the age of reason
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we said enough and our grandparents our grandmother also insisted that he not cover wars because we worried about him but. it also he promised or he said yes yes perhaps it basically as you said that it was either. a few months later he went to the gulf war not toward the end of the photo in time. i didn't remember that but you're right i'm here to learn to live with. one of the world's main issues that people usually don't see going to the birth father's old if you think about it 6 months a year he's alone in the street from 5 am to 8 pm that's quite unusual. in books it's a vocation this part of you. know it's your calling and you can't do anything else it's called to the priesthood he was called to be a photographer the. last question which isn't
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a question if you each had to choose one word connected to a boss not necessarily a quality or flaw one word. i'd say thank you. dad. thank you dad but i thought if i was. going to coffees. i moved a long black from. running out of times a boss one of us to shoot faster so we met every morning and filmed as much as we could to. it would make. most movement someone or something to notice that you supercomputer could be to have everything done so if you needed to work so hard maybe one of the
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menu investments lasik observes the latest value board. system. mirco hello you had chaos there's a farsi word. shruti. which goes from lovable family mayhem to bloody riots you go it means chaos is the same word. is. as an iranian is and i'm supposed to be just fine with sure he will iranians love me it was but i must not be a very good iranian because i can't seem to photograph. even when it's in front of me i try to organize it what is it will do in the world and. the one up by example is an excellent example. see it was the 1st anniversary of the iranian revolution
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february 11th 1983 lumps of the young man inflated. it is right that the people were packed so tightly that this extraordinary mr rose a down to as 16. it prolifically was it and then it was in india that i encountered the most the most is this is a suspended moment your mentor but at the same time there's a lot of action i love photos with lots of action as book with your name is happening here and there but it's all connected it's all you they can be connected by a peaceful gentle harmony you are by a clashing harmony you know when iraq. was given what has always impressed me about this image since the one i always wondered where you were when you took a new lease so let's leave some mystery and out explain some photos to much of the photos live their lives and keep their mystery to go they're always there i want to . be clear there is 0
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then the chapter on mockery look i love mockery. your proof of the perfect example was because a. president of the central african republic that's all tuffy crowned himself emperor on a golden throne the so-called long. soviet period could have been a pleasant surreal advantage if this country hadn't been among the world's poorest cecil b. mythical and he saw himself as an emperor akihito moisten and i wanted to mark that . is why i photographed him with the press just in their shirt sleeves. the quests on the trees. if you know more than any 2 don't play. and then one point with his train is ermine robe it was 45 degrees celsius in the shade what i thought he walked by the toilets i couldn't miss that the best example.
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of this one of the mujahideen is marking to jaidyn. what is he doing there. since there long it was on the way into kabul before the mujahideen took the city. so serious you'll see if you really miss is one of my best known photographs from not fully veiled woman with a microscope. the mockery is gentler what you do with all of it is your this one for example. of what you are with a woman and the car bailed. you should do could i have 2 favorites which honored all political. since you this one is in vietnam you have all the selling to coconuts like full breasts and nothing else focus that you. could put in madame perhaps my favorite is the one in the book on mexico see
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a lot of you don't wonder why he's carrying a table on his head it's surreal and ridiculous. silly at least a bit easier. in your images on religion the whole issue through twitter i've always found that i saw some violence and some mockery. both here and what is your relationship with god would you. talk about that tomorrow spirituality this paternity or.
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if you could. use his condition wasn't improving film at his home now he barely ate anything anymore and i started to worry. maybe but he wanted to keep filming he was his usual self on camera as though everything was fine. i know that he so here we have his law. also in the jews there are similar. christians buddhists hindus. and animists is that he. did all those years in contact with religion was make you a believer and to korea. why should i do find
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myself in relation to a fantasy fun fact when if it is popular and is universal here they need. to cool your teeth. because really the other day he may be laughing today. let's get on with it. seems we. better stop it down or go support then it's not that it's you but i can hear him giggling behind me about as. spirituality for you god doesn't exist i didn't say that is because one man or woman in the world believe god exists if you exist the answer is yes and other people so god exist to exist.
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who knows that so this is in mecca. and the sit on this is in indonesia quite young when true believers pray you can tell they've gone somewhere else. cloned. here's a comparison between a shiite muslim or less she and an orthodox jew enough to look sharif and there's a family resemblance to know the bone. chilling with the jews but of course another great example of a suspended moment when he took offense was the coffee ceremony in an ethiopian jewish family who had been able to emigrate by to make to his room but if i leave on the side if you've already done the christians i love this one because.
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city and there was a mass in the courtyard of the house and mahdi maybe and again you could feel the spirit of christianity. in the palm yeah but on the sample some think this is a muslim office which is a coptic christian and i remember what she uses the same gestures in prayer. the worship with the east next we turn to the buddhists the so we do like she's going around the tree for the tree ceremony she doesn't do now to induce. a couple praying in the early morning. for the for the wife is tied to her husband with her sorry. but with a lot of tranquility. to o.c. with us here you have a georgia initiation ceremony in custom oncet senegal will simply go home tonight during initiation ceremonies it iss in the early morning.
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it's what's your relationship to god you know john cordial. earlier it's a professional relationship but cordial. professionalism you know he doesn't tell me how to photograph his flock and i don't tell him how to behave towards his believers was a horrible theory of mutual respect equality and cordial all his prematurely called you know. there's room for the if you put on a photograph religion face. but everything that surrounds it. has social political economic and psychological aspects all that interests me.
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this is melissa a photographer and also incidentally my companion. she's preparing a book of her work so i'm trying to advise. there should be a secret dialogue between the photographs perhaps this could go to the nearest missing. person idea for instance. traveling with him makes me realize how little time we have and how important it is for us to make use of every 2nd that we are given because he does it his photos as. complex as he is profound i thought as he is this creature. and it carries great
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great depth off emotions and i have never known that to be possible by looking at a photograph until i thought his work. but although he said his relationship with god is charley professional i see in him a true believer a believer in the human potential of which the limits he challenges every single 2nd of his life. are subject here to. let me know when you're ready i'm ready if you're ready to start listing back or. if you remove you know you better if you were here. to say stop getting around. to go to court well let's go to beauty
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because copper years well what can we say about beauty. divinity to use it if i had a publisher in the u.s. for my book on mexico city crews said that an old art professor was italian. and every time he spoke about a painting he stood in front of it and said ah ah ah but it wasn't on going to do the same thing yeah. how many photos are there here 1616 times i'll say ah ha ha since we didn't that says it all. come.
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out discounter these up a mess and we'll move on to sadness is this. mole so sadness. listen i'm not going to go. but at my foot going up perhaps my favorite photo about sadness is this one see. you see a bride in kabul. the minute the husband is absent immediately had immigrated them oh yes i was sure it was a marriage by proxy that's a little bit of the husband was only there on a photo. stood by these you can see your face it's not a joyful face those unicorn call heinie costs you know qur'anic school in southern
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thailand. put there not perhaps the saddest photo i've taken is this one. says it was during the siege of sarajevo policy i was a makeshift cemetery because the serbs surrounded the city itself for lack of space the dead were just buried anywhere. you know every afternoon i walked past here and every afternoon there was a uniformed bosnian soldier mourning his young wife. so one for his grief was very very grade because he was there every day for whiskey to lead to.
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a bus abbas what will be found today. who knows. because when we were starting the last day of filming a bus when our boss took me aside to tell me how he wanted to end the bell because he knew he'd never see and encourage them enough. i. don't believe so private life the best chapter.
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surely and yeah yes for iranians there are 2 very different worlds god don't need and peter any. sort of beautiful name is the outside world all that is public and to me is anything private and yours and there's a very clear delineation between them. have never been comfortable in situations there's private moments and even when i was invited. to parties perhaps subconsciously i thought that i don't like it when my private life was filmed there photographed with those i feel. when i say this is one of the few times i've allowed a camera in my own. living if she was. this work on private life began when my 1st granddaughter was born she. up until then i'd only had brothers male cousins and good men son was also usually good if you saw the 1st woman in the
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family i was cherished if i meet the. daughter for the photograph to show down and i lay her sister who was born soon after ages of the people i kept on throughout their childhood and adolescence how today is now a mother which makes me a great grandfather accomplish one of those schools or feel and i thought i'm working on a book about my granddaughters showdown on a ledge ordinarily i make a selection for the film or a fellow show our house offered louche was because of the. course of it with a name caller she knew her.
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our last one as car. park street. has a dollar. short. more than a 1000 years ago europe witnesses a huge construction good. christianity firmly established itself. both religious and secular leaders mourning to display their power. to trace games. and create the tallest biggest most beautiful structures. stone masons builders and architects compete with each other. this is home massive churches for creative. contests to be.
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stored. on g.w. . as the state of the news live from berlin britain's prince philip is laid to rest. for oil pomp and pageantry are scaled back and in line with the prince's wishes and coronavirus restrictions but close family and friends gather at windsor castle to
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pay their last respects to the queen beds farewell to her husband.

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