sascha propound is chief investigator of the for street crime unit. in full fished in all as you know and we have to understand that in our globalised world when consumers buy cheap wood in a western european supermarket. that might lead to someone being killed in a forest in eastern europe. does come that's a. clear cutting is also an increasing problem in france but here it's done legally up to $25.00 hectares can be felled in one go an area about the size of $25.00 soccer fields and what up there is the neighbors clear cut. what a mess. welcome to. when we thought i was less than 5 years ago this was all covered in sort of trees you can see from the stems that they were huge up to 80 centimeters in diameter they were just 60 years old

standing on the. last winter they took them all down how they are all. on a pound isn't placing blame clear cutting is an accepted practice here. for many forest owners that's all they know and they often get bad advice. when the trees are mature they think they need to be harvested otherwise it's like letting an apples drawdowns a branch but actually it's fine if trees grow to be 2 or 300 years old it's like i don't know the other idea. it's also a political issue the timber industry employs more people here than the current history to the lake when it's true where industrializing are forests standardizing that along the model of a monoculture we use large machinery and produce trees that are completely uniform so they're easier to put through the sawmill. he's what we'll end up with is uniform. standardized forests that are the complete opposite of natural

biodiversity for. sure they do not sit in the joint it's the same with industrialized and new growth forests in germany. in lubec can huge storm advocates for diverse species rich forests his detractors say that's not economically viable but storms forest does turn a profit for the city the felonious for the i'm not asking for everyone to sing our praise but even if they don't agree with our approach they should leave us be instead they act like they need to save the city of lubec from our foolishness. detractors say his sustainable forest management is a fiction and regularly filed complaints with the city administration. the complaints haven't succeeded but they're not giving up in. this city supports can you charms work today he has an appointment with his boss

the city's interior and environment minister. the leader of the. the wet dog means you've been in the woods today. luker henson brushes off complaints about the forest of the $5000.00 hectare woodland is turning a profit and a sustainable one. could think i'm here not to bits of wood i'm happy to invite critics to lubeck so they can see for themselves what we're doing everyone who's planted fast growing trees in recent years is now seeing how an ordinary forest fire can destroy many hectares of woodland over night finished of in it's a bit crazy that they're planning to replant and make the same mistake all over again. a forest needs time to mature even he said let's win because it doesn't fit the 2 are also critical of germany's federal forestry policies storm says the agriculture ministries plans are misguided especially because they call for

removing woody to pretty and planting more single species coniferous forests. in the fertile. when it comes to serving the public interest forests aren't the same as agricultural land forests also play an important environmental role as to forest management should call under the environment ministry of not the ministry of agriculture even if many foresters nowadays see themselves simply as farmers of trees for the steel. storm is critical of forestry practices in germany. but nature conservation is still more valued here than in many other countries. finland is one example the nordic nation advertises its forests as a tourist attraction but appearances can be deceiving europe's last indigenous people the sami live from reindeer herding the animals graze in the forests but

many young reindeer herders like yourself are watching these woodlands disappear. or respect their reindeer as life in survivor in the north. and i feel happy when i see them and feel lucky for myself to be born into sculpture their culture is under threat finland's forests are being clear cut to produce things like oil and paper. the radio heard with the reindeer is the most important to which we take care of them and teach them alive so that and take care of us and keep us. sammy settlements stretch across the north of norway sweden and finland and into the far west of russia. about $10000.00 sammy live in finland today the families share grazing areas for their reindeer. in the winter the

reindeer are returned to the crowds and counted. this circle is called get a look here we catch the raid and we separate them to these books it's. all around us depending on. what reindeer they are. it's an age old sammy tradition that's still being observed by young herders like. the people who have inhabited this land. after end of the ice age. that's how long the herds have been here to. but nowadays the forests belong to the finnish government and the government began selling large stretches of forest land into private ownership back in the 1960 s. . today's owners are out to make a profit but felling trees in this remote region is complicated and expensive the

finnish government provides a subsidy that's the only way owners can turn a profit while selling their temper at rock bottom prices to the paper industry sammy object to this practice but they're ignored has teamed up with another activist to change that they have taken so much from us and leave the garbage to us. that is how it has to stop. this area was once a diverse species rich primeval forest under you law it was supposed to be protected instead it was clear cut for the reindeer herders it's a disaster and vulnerable species are also affected of course it makes me sad to see this there's no use for us all this forest doesn't give us anything that would it's only taken away and the modern this is our lived here. read. god jews this

land they just go through it or. go around it but if it won't stay here. the wood pulp is used to make paper one of the linchpins of finland's economy there's hardly any oversight over which forests are being shelled and any complaints are systematically nor. used to state doesn't act on me if the company still in care somebody asked if. they're convinced that what the timber industry is doing is illegal but proving that is another matter. some of people have been born to fight for the rights there is so many cases in sadly history that the governments and sad people have made an agreement but the states or somebody else why alleging that agreement

yeah that has to change we just want to be. and one learn to live like for additional in the modern world. it takes courage to demonstrate against the violation of agreements and draw attention to legal clear cutting people who speak out face public hostility. paper from finland is inexpensive and many european companies would rather buy it then use recycled paper canoe to shoreham is also dismayed by this waste of valuable resources. they just would spoil and what more do we really need to use and where could we use something else . packaging paper and would be cutting down on that would probably allow us to reduce logging by about 60 percent 60 percent it would see a. yarmulke would like to see foresters in finland take that same approach then the

sami would be spared this struggle for their way of life. or just you know this person. because of the open season coming from. the state has decided at the all in to look. of certain areas where that had a cemetery and if they don't accept bookings. on the other hand there are some lots of forest commands which just go on looking in those forests forests also the herd is haven't given to cones and sammy people in finland have taken to social media to call for help and denounce the timber industry they joined the fight she is from new zealand. he is from norway. they've also found allies in finland yes and you are mo are in contact with tanian of greenpeace. we're going to connect and this is in the book

a part of the greenpeace activist is 600 kilometers away and came where there are 2 pulp mills a minute the game was in and mighty wants to prove that they are using lumber from primeval forest that are vital for the sami. together with jani a photographer he has for a nearby lumber yard to gather evidence. was. just the time of the article to the marks on the logs document the origins of the temper and the intended purchaser look likely many of. the timber here comes from a company that the activists have already run across during their investigation. it was. like oh i got to go this was the several

hundreds of us over sold one watching mustn't it just might be coming from any old forest fire you have trees of a different age you see the visit has paid off. so now we know that this one particularly up as a slogan goal in uninhabitable for at least excuses in the old forest same number there and same number here sold sickly to them it's going to be anything on the other on the 1st of the 2nd company to be all being sold it's it's one of them we know that. the activists now know which companies are operating here the guard arrives too late to intervene. and the guard asks mati what the 2 of them were doing and wants to know their names and. it was the minute that he refuses politely but firmly she. will pick.

it asks again but he's not getting anywhere just. me and jani have the evidence they need and it's time to leave them isn't that isn't it nice for. there to pulp mills in the area they want to find out which one is using the old growth temper. would hope as a key raw material here wouldn't paper products make up a quarter of finnish exports finnish timber companies are among the world's largest the matzoh group is one of them but they can't get past the locked gates. they are planning to build a new pulp mill here it will be over 2 times bigger than the present one they thought consumes $6700000.00 some people which are sold every year if it were to

create trucks it would be $400.00 fully laden trucks every day but it's an incredible amount. it's a saw enough to pulp expansion in finland correctly taking place there are plans to build 4 to 5 new wells some of them bigger than what we have previously had in this country on the logging rights are going off the board imports of getting the company processes tambour from finland russia dystonia and lat via. finland produced over 25 percent of all the printing paper smug us in papers in the world and still we have only 2 percent of the forest resources of the world so it's it tells some intensity. chinese investors are already financing new factories to some increasing demand for paula and it looks like at currently it's mostly because of cardboard so when people are buying things online from from shops like a muscle they'll be in fact in the cart forge you get it's

a home and. and you troll with the way and. that's the spot for climate on the spot but for everything. germany is still the biggest consumer of the peeper products from finland and the paper though it would for a duck soup boy if it comes from finland it might involve problems for the for the reindeer herd just it might involve problems of biodiversity and i would say that people should be more conscious of seeing more what will they use in france susana and pierre are investigating a promising idea sustainable houses made entirely of wood when they're built well they can be very long lasting they have an appointment with architect. to lead what's that you know it's a portable home you can live in it and if you meet someone a girlfriend you can put a 2nd one right next to it. if it doesn't work out you just take them apart again

but there's nothing here you know this is this is the design everything we see here is wood from the of the new forest we're really proud because we know where our raw material is being used the wood is story c o 2 and it's being used locally. when wood is used for construction it binds c o 2 longer than if it's made into paper the architect has a new commission for that. i need you. so you need douglas for yes along with other kinds of wood. right otherwise it all looks the same aspen would be fantastic for the cladding. will get quite a bit out and it should be enough for the house we'll get about 300 leaders just tell us how much and what kinds of wood you need we'll set it aside i was reserve it for you 300 cubic meters that's 200 mill so 140 cubic metres.

a local buyer and no middleman suzanna and are pleased with the results. using the wood sustainably is important but so is the way that the trees are logged . in the new back they'll be felling some old oaks today. it's a job that requires a fair bit of skill and they're planning to fell this tree a cherry trees in the way they debate which direction the oak should fall to minimize damage to surrounding trees. and its tight quarters if they're hoping to spare a nearby oak there was a block with things but the beech tree will have to come down. at least the forester's try to do as little damage as possible when they're felling big trees in anything built in should the young trees nearby could easily be operated. can you

charm carefully selected the oaks that will be felled today they only harvest trees that will command a good price the forester's long term plan is to double the amount of oak in this forest and he's well on the way. other than i think if this is a museum or when an oak comes down i feel like i can hear it scream. that may sound nuts but an oak is a living being used just like an animal we need to treat them with care for a cat eats a mouse and we humans need wouldn't but it pains me every time i have to kill an animal or a tree to meet my own needs for mind by the dismissal maybe some comment on that was i on the loggers are still debating how to fell the tree via going to good. the oak is a heavy weight and it's tilted slightly in the wrong direction the loggers are using

a winch to guide it in the other direction you notice. nothing is rushed here but the forest is stiller and the city a tiny profit. now the trainee is given a recap. of some of these you might wonder if all this effort was worth it the oak was already talking and we could have just let it go down in that direction but those young trees are the future of these forests the next generation also want to sell high quality wood this tree has been here 200 years so we should respect that and take the time to do our job properly we don't want to just yank it down we want it to fall in the right direction walt. subsea. even though there's sometimes collateral damage this forest is densely wooded and thriving.

the loopback forest draws customers from far and wide these buyers came from the minster more than 300 kilometers away they want a high quality yoke for their veneer workshop. the cubic metre price depends on the woods quality the price of every log is negotiated separately. one of the buyers points out a flaw in this section of the truck he's aiming for a good price for the old. order. but canoe to storm stays unruffled he's used to these kinds of negotiations. but the buyers are also debating exactly how much of a lock to purchase. what they'd prefer is 3 meters 50 with a minimum of knots. from all for that they'd be willing to pay

a premium for $600.00 and it's yours as well that was painless for you're going to be a washed up from your what if we take 664360 that i will not that's not enough. in the end they buy several truckloads the price is a trade secret the stuff learned by the way can which doom runs these wars is pretty much unique in germany or japan if you will forgive me and if they let the trees get old and fat. you want to find trees this size in places where they felt the trees much sooner than the rat if you hear the trees grow old in this old and study. that's what we want to sell your statements with most of them i never even think. it's a nice market but a lucrative one. the marketing of the new gets reported to the customers are also willing to pay a premium because they know they're not getting

a legally harvested timber. the. georgian forces just isn't and that's what makes german forestry appealing this is new it's not like romania or ukraine when it comes to observing regulations you know they're too lax for our tastes is a national disease and. yohannes sonnen of the world wide fund for nature and alexandru a romanian police investigator are heading out to take a look at illegal logging practices in the area. and they drove us quite far away to show was illegal logging then they said oh it's not that bad really there's no illegal logging anyhow everything's great at this from 2 years this comes in. and everyone denies there is a legal clear cutting in the area they feel like they're being stonewalled. and feel well that's an example all right i should be. there told only

a handful of trees have been felled and there's no clear cutting alexandru is frustrated with the local police. takes a sample of the wood to the ceiling well you know you see it's have been taken a specimen so that we can send it to the isotope lab as a reference to see if illegal timber turns up we can compare it to the sample and speculation. sonnen isn't just an activist he's also a specialist in wood forensics he helped develop this investigative technique he's used it a number of times to prove that supposedly legally felted word was actually illegal timber. here. in the sea and it's just so there is really not skeets we have to go forward certainly let's because it's something like he said ok let's continue.

on. as they hike up to the peak of his talks have the local police officers. nearly every road that crossed. the street there were a lot so locking is every list but oh how too late i've been a little control them maybe if there is a sion for death then sure they force yeah 99 percent have papers saying. after a 2 hour hike uphill they finally arrive at their destination most of the lodging here is clearly older but a few of the trees were felled recently. it's close to tears. would be clear here forest is told that they still around $1000.00 trees in this area.

we have forest us here badly paid and there you go to the houses of the forest us and they have the cows that's how can you ask suits houses where you earn only very little money it's an indicator let something be strong. it's a leap in our experience was rather mixed with almost amusing at times as what clearly they didn't want to put romania in a bad light with all the illegal business going on there you'd need an awfully big blanket for that cover up. illegal. son and says the main problem is corruption that's why he and his fellow activists have taken up the fight to save the forests. can you to shoreham has also seized the initiative together with thorsten vela of the

natural forest academy he wants to refute the claim that young conifer forests bind more c o 2 than older mixed forests this fall will stay in i'll set up the laser scanner this is the center of the area we want to scan if they said they were here. a scandal or. storm is convinced that mixed with winds grow faster and find more c o 2 than most researchers believe. we've got a mixed forest with trees of different ages our theory is that enhances growth he is. setting up the goals of reference bulls. the 3 d. scanner shows how much the trees have grown since the last measurements were taken . to look i'm all for now i'll press the button and it will measure everything. the device is always the same height at chest level it makes few errors than

a human would because people make mistakes every now and then. scooters and adopt this gives you solid data that you can report and you get numbers measurements that you can show people are missing the international studies of showing that a high level of species diversity for a large variety of trees in a forest in heads is productivity and growth and. that's exactly what we see in a laid back base forest isn't unique it was the this is how ecosystems work and it would be nice if forestry operations were to take that on board itself so i'm going to i'm going to. canoe to storm hopes that one day i'll be able to convince his critics. did so are the numbers are on our side and not just our economic balanchine but the ecological data we're seeing species return to our forest that only live in primeval forest including insect bat and bird species that's quite

a success as the one. responsible woodland management without corruption and without reckless over exploitation. that's the future these activists are fighting for. to own. or not to own. what about assuring economy instead. of. a change in thinking is changing the economy to create something that. the economics magazine made in germany. 30 minutes w.

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