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sascha propound is chief investigator of the for street crime unit. and was not in full force in all this in i know we have to understand that in our globalised world when consumers buy cheap wood in a western european supermarket. that might lead to someone being killed in a forest in eastern europe it. does come that's a. clear cutting is also an increasing problem in france but here it's done legally up to $25.00 hectares can be felled in one go an area about the size of $25.00 soccer fields and what up there is the neighbors clear cut. what a mess. when we've got our was land 5 years ago this was covered in sort of trees you can see from the stems that they were huge up to 80 centimeters in diameter they were just 60 years old
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standing on the. last winter they took them all down how they are all. on a pony isn't placing blame clear cutting is an accepted practice here. for many forest owners that's all they know and they often get bad advice is the best and when the trees are mature they think they need to be harvested otherwise it's like letting an apples drawdowns a branch but actually it's fine if trees grow to be 2 or 300 years old as i said and that's all the idea. it's also a political issue the timber industry employs more people here than the car industry. it's true we're industrializing our forests standardizing them along the model of a monoculture we use large machinery and produce trees that are completely uniform so they're easier to put through the sawmill. is what we'll end up with is uniform . standardized forests that are the complete opposite of natural biodiversity and
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therefore. do the lawsuit in the jordan it's the same with industrialized and new growth forests in germany. in lubec canoed storm advocates for a diverse species rich forests his detractors say that's not economically viable but storms forest does turn a profit for the city the following year for the i'm not asking for everyone to sing our prize but even if they don't agree with our approach they should leave us be instead they act like they need to save the city of lubec from our foolishness. but. detractors say his sustainable forest management is a fiction and regularly file complaints with the city administration. the complaints haven't succeeded but they're not getting out in. this city supports can you charms work today he has an appointment with his boss
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the city's interior and environment minister. oh to be. in the wet dog means you've been in the woods today. luker henson brushes off complaints about the forest of the $5000.00 hectare woodland is turning a profit and a sustainable one. could you guys in here know who bits of wood i'm happy to invite critics to lubeck so they can see for themselves what we're doing everyone who's planted fast growing trees in recent years is now seeing how an ordinary forest fire can destroy many hectares of woodland overnight finished it in it's a bit crazy that they're planning to replant and make the same mistake all over again like a forest needs time to mature side even she said let's win because it doesn't fit the 2 are also critical of germany's federal forestry policies storm says the agriculture ministry has plans are misguided especially because they call for
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removing woody to pretty and planting more single species coniferous forests. referred to. when it comes to serving the public interest forests aren't the same as agricultural land forests also play an important environmental role as do forest management should call under the environment ministry of not the ministry of agriculture even if many foresters nowadays see themselves simply as farmers of trees for this field. storm is critical of forestry practices in germany. but nature conservation is still more valued here than in many other countries. finland is one example the nordic nation advertises its forests as a tourist attraction but appearances can be deceiving europe's last indigenous people the sami live from reindeer herding the animals graze in the forests but
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many young reindeer herders like yourself are watching these woodlands disappear. or respect their reindeer as life and so arrive are in the world. and i feel happy when they see them and feel lucky for myself to be born into sculpture their culture is under threat finland's forests are being clear cut to produce things like oil and paper. to the radiator that the reindeer is the most important to which we take care of them and teach them alive so they can take care of us and keep prosper. sammy settlements stretch across the north of norway sweden and finland and into the far west of russia. about $10000.00 sami live in finland today the families share grazing areas for their reindeer. in the winter the reindeer are
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returned to the crowns and counted. oh. this circle is called it look here we catch the raid and we separate them to these books that's. all around us depending on what time of the raid do they are. it's an age old sammy tradition that's still being observed by young herders like. the people who have and have bit to this land. after end of the ice age. that's how long the herds have been here 2 and. but nowadays the forests belong to the finnish government and the government began selling large stretches of forest land into private ownership back in the 1960 s. . today's owners are out to make a profit but felling trees in this remote region is complicated and expensive the
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finnish government provides a subsidy that's the only way owners can turn a profit while selling their temper at rock bottom prices to the paper industry the sami object to this practice but they're ignored has teamed up with another activist to change that they have taken so much from us and leave the garbage to us. that is it tough to stop. this area was once a diverse species rich primeval forest under law it was supposed to be protected instead it was clear cut for the reindeer herders it's a disaster and vulnerable species are also affected of course it makes me sad to see this there's no use for us all this forest doesn't do us anything. taken away and the modern this is our lives here.
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just go through a door. go around it but it won't stay here. the wood pulp is used to make paper one of the linchpins of finland's economy there's hardly any oversight over which forests are being shelled and any complaints are systematically north. if the state doesn't act is to understand some progress to. they're convinced that what the timber industry is doing is illegal but proving that is another matter. sam and people have been born to fight for their rights there is so many cases in sadly history that governments and sad and fearful have made an agreement but then the state or somebody is violating that agreement yeah that has to change we just
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want to be. and one wants to live like for additionally in the modern world. it takes courage to demonstrate against the violation of agreements and draw attention to illegal clear cutting people who speak out face public hostility. paper from finland is inexpensive and many european companies would rather buy it then use recycled paper canoe to store them is also dismayed by this waste of valuable resources. they just words and yet what would do we really need to use and where could we use something else. packaging paper and all would be cutting down on that would probably allow us to reduce logging by about 60 percent 60 percent it would see a. yarmulke would like to see foresters in finland take that same approach then the
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sami would be spared this struggle for their way of life. and i guess you know this person. because of the open season coming from day. the state has decided that it wont to loke. certain areas where that herd assembly and if they don't accept bookings. on the other hand there are some thoughts forest common she just go on looking in those forests forests also the herd is have and given to send sami people in finland have taken to social media to call for help and denounce the timber industry they are trying to fight she is from new zealand. he is from norway. they've also found allies in finland yes and you are mo are in contact with tanian of greenpeace. we're going to connect and this in the book
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a part of the greenpeace activist is 600 kilometers away and came where there are 2 pope nelson at the game i was in and wants to prove that they are using lumber from primeval forest that are vital for the sami. together with jani a photographer he has for a nearby lumber yard to gather evidence. was. just that the methodical to the marks on the logs documented the origins of the temper and the intended purchaser look like he made me out of. the timber here comes from a company that the activists have already run across during their investigation. was. a cook like up to go this must be several hundreds of
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years old so one mother mustn't it just might be coming from an old forest there you have trees of a different age you see the visit has paid off. so now we know that in this one particular area of her this will be a goal and on that happy to sell for at least its use in old forest same number there and same number here so will sickly and it's got to be a neat on the other on the 1st of the 2nd company to be called being sold it's it's one of them now when all the rest. of the activists now know which companies are operating here the guard arrives too late to intervene. and the guard asks mati what the 2 of them were doing and wants to know their names and can. you actually look at them monte refuses politely so put firmly.
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the guy. it asks again but he's not getting anywhere he just. marty and jani have the evidence they need and it's time to leave them he said that as an attorney spoke to. their 2 pulp mills in the area they want to find out which one is using the old growth temper. would hope as a key raw material here wouldn't paper products make up a quarter of finnish exports finished him or companies are among the world's largest the matzoh group is one of them but they can't get past the locked gates. they are planning to build a new pulp mill here it will be over 2 times bigger than the present one they could consume just $6700000.00 subs cubic meters would every year if it were to create
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trucks it would be $400.00 fully laden trucks every day but it's an incredible amount. it's a saw enough the pulp expansion in finland currently taking place there are plans to build forts of 5 new mills some of them bigger than what we have previously had in this country and the logging rights are going off the board imports i've been seeing the company processes timber from finland russia estonia and latvia. finland produced over 25 percent of all the printing papers magazine papers in the world and still we have only 2 percent of the foresters sources of the world so it's it tells on intensity. chinese investors are already financing new factories just an increase in demand for paul and it looks like at the current limits mostly because of cardboard so when people are buying things online from from shops like a muscle they'll be in fact in the cardboard you get it's your home and. and you
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troll with the way. that's the spot for climate on the spot but for everything. germany is still the biggest consumers of paper products from finland and the paper though it would for a duck soup boy if it comes from finland it might involve problems for the for the reindeer herd just it might involve problems of biodiversity and i'd say that people should be more conscious of seeing more but what will they use in france susana and pierre are investigating a promising idea sustainable houses made entirely of wood when they're built well they can be very long lasting they have an appointment with architect. and i want that you know it's a portable home you can live in it and if you meet someone a girlfriend you can put a 2nd one right next to it. if it doesn't work out you just take them apart again
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but there's nothing here that this is this is the design everything we see here is wood from the of the new forest we're really proud because we know where our raw material is being used the wood is story c o 2 and it's being used locally. when wood is used for construction it binds you to longer than if it's made into paper the architect has a new commission for that. i need you. so you need douglas fir yes along with other kinds of wood. right otherwise it all looks the same aspen would be fantastic for the cladding. form will get quite a bit out and it should be enough for the house at about 300 metres just tell us how much and what kinds of wood you need we'll set it aside for i was reserved for you 300 cubic metres that's 200 mill so 140 cubic metres is.
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a local buyer and it no middleman susana and pierre are pleased with the results. using the wood sustainably is important but so is the way that the trees are logged . in the back they'll be felling some old oaks today. it's a job that requires a fair bit of skill and they're planning to fell this tree a cherry trees in the way they debate which direction the oak should fall to minimize damage to surrounding trees. and its tight quarters if they're hoping to spare a nearby oak there was a block with things but the beech tree will have to come down. leave the forester's try to do as little damage as possible when they're felling big trees and then being built and sure the young trees nearby could easily be operated.
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canoe charm carefully selected the oaks that will be felled today they only harvest trees that will command a good price the forester's long term plan is to double the amount of oak in this forest and he's well on the way. other than i think a very good this isn't the when an oak comes down i feel like i can hear it scream . that may sound nuts but an oak is a living being just like an animal we need to treat them with care for a cat eats a mouse and we humans need wouldn't but it pains me every time i have to kill an animal or a trade to meet my own needs for mind i could do with a so maybe some comment on that reside on the loggers are still debating how to fell the tree via. the oak is a heavy weight and it's tilted slightly in the wrong direction the loggers are using
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a winch to guide it in the other direction you notice. nothing is rushed here but the forest still earns the city a tiny profit. now the trainee is given a recap. of some of these you might wonder if all this effort was worth it the oak was already tooting and we could have just let it go down in that direction but those young trees are the future of this forest the next generation also want to sell high quality wood this tree has been here 200 years so we should respect that and take the time to do our job properly we don't want to just yank it down we want it to fall in the right direction walt. even though there's sometimes collateral damage this forest is densely wooded and thriving.
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the loopback forest it draws customers from far and wide these buyers came from and then started more than 300 kilometers away they want a high quality oak for their veneer workshop. the cubic metre price depends on the woods quality the price of every log is negotiated separately. one of the virus points out a flaw in this section of the trunk he's aiming for a good price for food and all. they want to give us a little but canoe to storm stays on ruffled he's used to these kinds of negotiations. a lot more like the buyers are also debating exactly how much of a lock to purchase. what they'd prefer is 3 meters 50 with a minimum of knots. from $30.00 for that they'd be willing to pay
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a premium of $600.00 and it's yours as well that was painless for your good looking . for stuff from you what if we take 660 for 360 that i will not that's not enough. in the end they buy several truckloads the price is a trade secret we just got burned by the way can which doom runs these wars is pretty much unique in germany or japan if you will for you know if they let the trees get old and fat. you want to find trees of this size in places where they fell the trees much sooner fourchon the rat if you hear the trees grow old in this old and study. that's what we want so you're famous with money from my neighborhood . it's a nice market but a lucrative one. that i didn't want to get reported and i don't like the customers are also willing to pay a premium because they know they're not getting
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a legally harvested timber. that. georgian forces just isn't and that's what makes german forestry appealing this is new it's not like romania or ukraine when it comes to observing regulations you know they're too lax for our tastes is in washington d.c. and. your highness sonnen of the world wide fund for nature and alexandru a romanian police investigator are heading out to take a look at illegal logging practices in the area. when they drove us quite far away to show was illegal logging then they said oh it's not that bad really there's no illegal logging anyhow everything's great at this from to you. and everyone denies there is a legal clear cutting in the area they feel like they're being stonewalled. yeah well that's an example all right why should be. they're told only
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a handful of trees have been felled and there's no clear cutting alexandru is frustrated with the local police. takes a sample of the wood to the scene they got in the game it's just it's taken a specimen so that we can send it to the isotope lab as a reference to see if illegal timber turns up we can compare it to the sample and speculation on your highness sonnen isn't just an activist he's also a specialist in wood forensics he helped develop this investigative technique he's used it a number of times to prove that supposedly legally felt word was actually illegal timber. here. in the c.n.n. so it's really not skits we have to go forward certainly looks because it's something like that she said ok let's continue. along with employer.
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as they hike up to the peak your highness talks to the local police officers. nearly every road that crossed. the street there were a lot so locking is every wish but a how to live a day how little control them maybe they have out there is asian for that yes oh yeah 99 percent have papers named. after a 2 hour hike uphill they finally arrive at their destination most of the lodging here is clearly older but a few of the trees were felled recently. it's closed to clear out quickly to the forest as told that they still around $1000.00 priests in this area.
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we have forest those here badly paid and there you go to the houses of the forest us and they have the cows that's how can you ask suits houses where you earn only very little money it's an indicator that something is wrong. with our experience was rather mixed use was almost amusing at times as was clearly they didn't want to put romania in a bad light but with all the illegal business going on there you'd need an awfully big blanket for that coverage. in uganda she's going to take. on and says the main problem is corruption that's why he and his fellow activists have taken up the fight to save the forests. can you to shoreham has also seized the initiative together with thorsten vela of the
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natural forest academy he wants to refute the claim that young conifer forest spined more c o 2 than older mixed forests should go and stay in i'll set up the laser scanner this is the center of the area we want to scan the place and in a year. scandal or. storm is convinced that mixed with winds grow faster and find more c o 2 than most researchers believe. we've got a mixed forest with trees of different ages our theory is that enhances growth. setting up the bulls of reference bulls. the 3 d. scanner shows how much the trees have grown since the last measurements were taken . to look i'm off and so now i press the button and it will measure everything. i have the device is always the same height at chest level it makes few areas than
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a human would because people make mistakes every now and then. scooters and adopt this gives you solid data that you can report and you get numbers measurements that you can show people the international studies of showing that a high level of species diversity for a large variety of trees in a forest enhances put activity and growth and thus open all doors with your invalid because that's exactly what we see in lubec this forest isn't unique it was that this is how ecosystems work and it would be nice if forestry operations were to take that on board itself so i'm going on both the. canoe to storm hopes that one day we'll be able to convince his critics. did so on the numbers or on our side and not just our economic balanchine but the ecological data we're seeing species return to our forest that only live in primeval forest including insect bat and bird species that's quite
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