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for the conservatives parliamentary group as germany prepares to move on from merkel even what state does she leave her party and her country. you're going hard to welcome to conflicts can no 16 years of angela merkel and these days the c.d.u. has lost ground in the polls there's been a bitter fight for her succession in the party and corona virus is hitting the country hard issue leaving behind a mass i think we had seen a fair tough debate on the question who might successor might be successor from the union. from for chance to ship in germany. 2 weeks ago we were good formed about that both chairman of the 2 parties america stood up and see as well and i'm. that's it from city who both want to run as candidate for

a chance at ship and it took 9 days of discussion in different formats as a party and then the decision came out that i mean i said to chair osa c.v. and private stuff most members fadia would be candidates i think 9 days it's not too much to take such a important decision and looking to zip code in a situation we have heard and learned yesterday from the meeting from the prime minister's visit chancellor that we make huge steps forward concerning that situation we are now about 25 percent of population and i want to talk about in particular that that battle for succession but 1st let me ask you about a the state of unity at the at the very top though because in the past month merkel very publicly criticized her successor and the party arm in washington you've just mentioned over lock down policies does merkel not want the c.d.u. to be in the chancellor a 4th term. we don't have the feeling that the chances are both in voice in that

fight between the 2 party chairmen and i think a standing neutral in that position there's some debate i think we in what i just heard about meant you know what i'm talking about forgive me mr hart is is that she publicly on a highly viewed television program singled out that star failing to activate an emergency brake in the face of rising cases he also criticized her lockdown measures as treating citizens like under age children so with rhetoric like that flying back and forth between the top politicians tell us this public display of disagreement when the seating is future claim for the chancellorship is shaky does she not want the c.d.u. to retain power and i don't i don't see that and that way and we have to stipulation germany that we have 16 state governments and the federal witness stand it was different kind of combinations. if governments nearly all are led by

coalitions and i mean it's having a coalition including the liberal party which is opposite to the federal government it's a federal level and it's a huge challenge to bend the different minds and moods and the different parties in the coalitions and the states and the chance knows about the difficulty especially i mean that's the test was the liberals which are much more in favor of the opening of business and restaurants for example instead of staining and up and locked down and this debate was tended by i mean that's it and i think the proper way and look at to that point he reached a. state having a one person majority of the parliament and running a successful government for a over 4 years now this is a impressive result but could there not be not more unity that is the question you mentioned earlier that the cracks that have been openly displayed in your conservative party young in the process to pick the candidate for a chance of described as chaotic public very messy 5 months before you go to

a national election don't conservatives need to be more united to win and i think we are on the night of no behind i mean i said i and expect that it is a christians also union in bavaria and its leader marcus it has stayed close behind the candidate on the left that we have had this debate in germany also and of the seventy's as you remember 3 years later the chairman o.c.d. with him of course tensed up by getting 48.8 percent of elections and $3083.00 or 4 but now it's. estimated of the people concerning the result of selection and what will be their real results in 5 months there will be huge huge gap between and i hope that you didn't see that and see as who will increase they are. there they have a pulse and all. so the result at the end and this also too true the fact that.

most of the people expect that city who could do it better than others have your pens the right hope though on the right candidate because 72 percent of your conservatives disagreeing that you didn't pick the right candidate they say that the c.s.u. candidate marcus said are not the c. to use on lash it was better suited to become chancellor so why didn't you take the most favored candidate i can tell you my experience it was in the spring 17 if my 2 choices from the social democrats far off was fall head off i'm going to mark it as a chance that candidate of society would seize with the time put to a 2017 elections and nobody believed that it was easy you can do it again and looking to results as a social democrats with multi choice came out very poor off after the last

elections because momentum few on the popularity of politicians it's nothing that we can trust on concerning the outcome of elections and i blush it by himself he wants to fall behind the acting prime minister of finance with this figure in may 2017 and he won the election but the bottom line is that the base did not support lash at the base of your party your grass roots in your party are said to be frustrated and fact if you're not even listening to them how should people think that you listen to the country don't don't don't believe what you can read in the blocks from. others and my estimation especially from the debate ends of proof 2 weeks ago where we discussed it was up to 70. questions to the candidates in that group meeting and there was. a program to round it that marcus sort of us was spinning that and i am sure that if we would have boat. at that time that would be of

a charity for i mean i said don't believe the fake information that is sponsored by those who wants to have got that can stop it it's a fight it's not fair and i think that it's important i suppose i started by the sword and by by by the 59 percent that said that i'm in la should would would not be a good candidate according to the dutch law on trying for example i mean there's many polls that that that go in that direction but i just like so mr how many of those people can judge you on that how many people you know about i mean let's say it might consider us much more popular than. we and in germany as prime minister of bulgaria and i see you chance for me lesser to become much more popular and on the campaign trail and he will at the end of city with the elections but just briefly i mean the c.d.u. has already lost key bellwether of ational elections in the past months do you worry the same might happen on the national level i don't i don't think so i would like not like to have it i think we have to have the heart to do hard work but you

can't do that what does the results in the last elections were i mean last had reached a 6.7 percent plus in the last elections it was over 17 and michael save the pseudo last 10.4.5 per cent of area forces it was christian social union therefore i cannot i cannot see that with merkel sort of be on a better track concerning success than was i mean i should bottom line there is a sentiment among many in the country that they're tired they're tired of the corona virus pandemic in fact 79 percent also they say that they are not satisfied with the way that the government has managed the pandemic doctors are warning that i.c.u. beds are filling up it's quite a contrast because last year germany was being held up as a role model for fighting the pandemic did merkel get too comfortable i think we have some points but germany isn't a leader you're ok if you look for example to the rate of people that died with corona germany or. in the top group. with.

significantly lower numbers and several different other states especially sweden are also u.k. also but we have a problem concerning the vaccine the challenge for european union is that we are able to develop excellent vaccine like buy and take work seen from from germany but that we are not able to put to use it in high quantities not able to produce it and i quantities because we have kept cities for production of formats like approach not as not as for example in china or even on us and we have to to face the challenge in europe that we have to come closer to a point where we also were able to produce such things in our course will get the vaccine that's certainly something that we're going to talk about but let's talk about the other tools they have had at your disposal because there's been a lot of confusion about the government's measures the delay of the rapid test rollout for example ahead of the easter holiday merkel she tried to institute

a hard lockdown then rolled it back after harsh criticism then took the extraordinary step of issuing a formal apology has merkel lost her way. i think some of us and exuding me we would appreciate to have something like a hard look down for the 2 easter weeks of the week before and off they used to because we think that schools were closed in that time to feel holidays that also business stone around the stone and their code would be good chance to refuse the fiction rate in germany by doing a hard to lock down for 2 weeks but this was not possible to agree on between 16 different and had so for the goodness and germany and due to the fact that the health policy is mainly driven by the states the federal government cannot push through such a measure looking back to what we have had in the last weeks i think the number of

people that expect that such a hardship down over at euston would be better than that but we did it's increasing but that's have us nothing and now we have this regulation that funded. we have to shut down from 10 in the evening up to 5 in the morning i hope that we'll have to reduce the number of convictions the majority of people say though that the federal government has simply repeatedly promised more than they could deliver on the measures that it has had at its disposal and you know you're talking about these these these lockdowns and how isn't it in paris being seen countries for example i think u.k. and the us slowly opening back up on germany is still talking about harsher lockdowns highly controversial night curfews dramatic changes to the law for a so-called emergency brake. i think you're going to all those other countries and you mentioned you mentioned to u.k. the people in those countries have to face much harder and much much harsher transcription than we have had to germany germany was under relatively smooth

swayed to have his pictures to to to civil rights and that in the face of and go fight in corona and chance that told us looking to london with as it was a general in february if you have an infection rate of about 1800 you have not to put measures by the state because people are afraid to go in street they are afraid to go to work they are free to go for shopping because they see the long cross off of medical cars standing at the hospitals and no place for 444 people that. they need help in the hospitals and this is what we know the german even we have liked the. way she even the situation in the hospitals was always under control and therefore it's might be a little bit more difficult to convince people in germany that we are not on the secure side but that we have to be and take attention on what happens and that we

also have to take my chances of future and the debate is ongoing and the debate just maybe depart in germany than in other countries right because we have this federal system between the states and the federal level during the race to vaccinate the population as you've mentioned in germany ranks 15 however when it comes to e.u. countries that have administered at least one vaccine doses among adults adults according to the european centers for disease control is this really a number that a country like germany should be proud of is this the best that the government could it. we decided to take the european common european union solution because we say we have not invited if we wait seen all germans but people in countries around germany and the cliques united and i think this might come back to us as a boomerang if we don't. creature flu vaccination of all people that are close to us was almost restricted it was on the borders which close economic and. ties and therefore the decision was to follow the european union programme but it's

not just about following the european union graham it's about being you know average at best within the e.u. in the way that you have been executing that program and i'd just like to bring in you know one of your fellow lawmakers alexander starts from the s.d.p. who says germans they long believed that they lived in a well governed country one that was better run than most other states in europe both assumptions have turned out to be wrong does he have a point. i do not approve this alexandr coughing up stuff which is a petition for appreciated put it from my point of view of it but of the opposite and he has to his duty is to to put its figures and questions are in critical points we have but look at 2 of the campaign running now 1st i would like to mention that the german government never promised to have another situation and what seen. as other would see the situation that it is all proposals of the

government about quantities of oxidation and the fog come off what's a nation is for food we are now up to 25 percent of the population and day by day we could get more than close to one percent in addition to that though that we can be sure that 100000000000 those of that scene for 80000000 inhabitants in germany might reach a situation that every german can be very good at and adult german can be vaccinated up to end of july 1st that's an aged and send most of them all to a 2nd vaccination and then in july or august i saw all the other us market and 2nd thoughts and so much on a says will see if you can dilemma because you are sufficiently yeah yeah ultimately though i mean even you talk about this common e.u. approach to vaccine determined they thought that that germany is very strongly supported however here now in bilateral talks with russia to secure doses of the sputnik the vaccine is lateral put in really your best hope to solve this vaccine

fiasco issue and you know many i would i would. put in a quick scene in case that european medical agency imma might confirm that this is a good vaccine for the pity with this put in a case that they are not so many quantities of their product that you would not be able to sell it to other countries look into that what happened for example in the balkan states for some of the states. for example they have information that they can get some vaccine from sputnik as have learnt in the last days they didn't have anywhere to see it and now and now they are not able to deliver to the people because at the quantity it's not they have x. if they've got seen might be will but. also the protection papacy capacities in russia and other states it's a moment too weak to put to support a piece of it but people want to deliver and even watch of arsole and i'd like to

move to international relations now merkel continues to back putin's north stream to pipeline despite fresh calls from the european parliament the us and beyond to pull the project over security concerns why is medical still holding on to north stream 2 when it's a stain on alliances and it puts fresh cash into putin's pockets concerning is in austin to approach equating germans to have net never had the chance to convince our partners in europe and us that this pro to protect is not timing security interests of europe because one of our former chancellor scatcherd us especially involved in that project and so therefore i can understand that nobody trusts in a neutral and neutral assessment of that by the german government but i can tell you stopping that project no would be a favor for those who invested in said project my convention at the current conviction that said this protest is economically

a failure i think you would too what do you mean by that project mr what do you mean stopping the project because i mean there's supports for example within your party reports excuse me of growing support for a moratorium in your party so 1st of all is that is that what you're talking about and if that is the case is that the best hope to kick the can down the road so essentially someone else an ally the next chancellor can take decisive leadership on whether or not this pipeline will ever operate it would be possible by german law maybe it might be really puzzled. by german law to stop that project but then you have to compensate all those who are invested in that project because you can stop that project but it's a on a legal. it's built on the legal base and therefore you have to compensate those who invested in that and my my belief is that that this protest is economically a failure because we don't need to that pipe to get enough gas for germany or europe and therefore all all those companies that invested in their project have to

face the challenge that they that project potentially this project is economically economically a failure and in case that the german taxpayer is company pumped compensating that for those companies they would laugh about and therefore i think we should concentrate on the question what about energy security of europe german government should present to our partners in europe and us a broken how to be talk about security of energy in europe and with that although it's a question of russian gas can beyond but but but but mr hart you know russian aggression has been on the rise for years of course so the question is how did you get to this point and is it time to admit that merkel finds herself in a bit of a trap over north stream the project as you've highlighted more than 95 percent complete pulling political backing could be costly. didn't merkel missed her window to take decisive action is she in a trap of her own making we took russian gas also in the seventy's that said times of the union gas in the seventy's been bieber and the cold war and we've learnt

that economic relations for us or to soviet union it's a time now to russia not not at risk for security but also a chance to make. it dependency of russia on european politics and maybe to influence for what happened in this country in the long term situation i i think that we have to discuss about independence of fewer people union energy security. he backed the proposal of us we should take more gas we'll ukraine instead of north for him this doesn't change the fact that it's russian gas that is that this is gus that comes that cut that comes from states with companies and russia and the independence of one source like russia for gas it would not be changed if we decide to not take it that it was grossly too but with the ukraine there few of the arguments of the other side also very weak let's let's switch gears just briefly

and talk and talk about china are you concerned that germany is falling also into a trap when it comes to china because after years of fostering business ties your main business association is now saying that the west strategy for opening up china has failed they call it a wake up call is it a call that germany is potentially answering too late we have a german in the pacific strategy and we have 10 sheets of the opium commission 2 and a half years ago on a more tough strategy on china i think we should mention 'd u.s. and north america very close in the question how to be face even creasing. because if news of china by mixing political and economic interests together and i know as a german that we as germans have to to lose a lot because some of our industry is very much depending on the and bed profits they they do in china but look to that watch in china is ongoing increasing

pressure on people on human rights and also increasing pressure on taiwan we have to we have to take a more tough way including the question of our economic relations how tough do you think that strategy though appears to the chinese when you have human rights concerns overshadowing this investment deal for example with china that germany pushed through in december on it under its presidency you couldn't even get any meaningful commitments on. human rights there were just they promises on labor rights including forced labor did it send the wrong message to pay shipping european union did that was for example us to preserve us before i think i was going to g. is and should be the common strategy of the best in both to create shine effect on to following international regulation and international law and having a set of regulations back china's agreeing on and we have the chance potentially

also the chance to judge on whether they follow on not expect them to have said sure why the west situation as a disparate tension we now but i think only a common approach between u.s. and european union is helpful on that field and therefore i expect that european union and also the acting and the new german government have test to. close their o's together with north america because a leverage is much bigger if we work together instead of doing it on a on a single signal or by the total way between european union and china let's go back to the elections 16 years of angle americal she came to power with a new cd you after helmut kohl do you think that the end of her era will also lead to a government where the c.d.u. need some time in the opposition to rejuvenate i mean we've talked about divisions in the party the pandemic and assertive russia and china are you heading for the opposition i think that the government needs see who sees it will and i hope that

this it was easy it would also present the next chance because of the fact that we might come out as the biggest party out of that elections and looking to that but i'm going i'm actually reached i think the economic benefit. of hope. is perfect we never saw such a. continuous and long. boost in the economy in the last decades and we all. to see. the field such agony came for folks we have some maybe they have some some some at the legs of way we have to do this is for me even for insecurity issues closer relations between us and in for a repeat for the security issue even in china going to see in russia obviously you're going to we have to leave it there thank you for joining us on conflicts on that bike.

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