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up at the top of the hour my colleague l 1st will join you that i'm sara kelly and thank you so much for watching take care. of her. usual worries about the. military. on the old house will be on the grid friends and to me it's korea remains true. join me for a deep dive into the green transformation from a tribute for the concept. of.
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a source of national pride in germany karsten for freedom status and german engineering with the voice that our prosperity today is and we can see people without the car and without the cars of the week our prosperity of tomorrow will not be possible it is. the car is the engine of the german economy an industry that employs millions of car makers have long enjoyed a special relationship with politicians and the message is the car stands for germany it must be protected from other sacrifices are made in the interests of the auto industry march corporations influence politics in germany and in europe joan collins street has traditionally been very political in brussels it takes just one question of interest control and in influence but the biggest fraud scandal in recent history has tested the cozy relationship between car makers and. allah
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titian's. it but i'm extremely angry. the mood is shifting many are calling for fundamental change at the same time new competitors are entering the market especially from china. we were told we can if we keep doing the same old stuff up in a world where germany is no longer an industrialized country. in the middle of dealing with this credibility crisis the auto industry is dealt another heavy blow coded 19 up sales have slumped assembly lines are at a standstill the outlook is poor without firm political backing the industry could be headed toward an uncertain future is the era of the german automobile coming to an end. one of the most important automotive hubs in germany. here people have long
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depended on local car makers and their suppliers for their livelihoods but past successes aren't worth much today as dieter zetsche a warrant shortly before stepping down as c.e.o. of dime or no laura tonight chip says pain will exist forever. all months it was better believe the consequences would be devastating he's the district manager of the german metal workers union i-g. matal in baton burton back on november 22nd 2900 the union rallies to protest recently announced job cuts. a fair bit today i stand here in chicago looking out for the 15000 that's workers who are saying boss this is not the way to do it. 4 months before the coronavirus pandemic shuts down europe many employees already fear for their future. more than 500000 people work in the
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automotive industry in budden burden back. to these accounts it's a whole system that's affected full supply is prefab development and so the not doesn't truth of the butcher overhead presses the retail us and the list goes on and on it's clear that without these industries the polites will go out if those. car manufacturers and suppliers are in a difficult position. their business model is shaky many companies have few answers to the myriad challenges of the future. job cuts are one way to reduce costs. it's not now they're saying we'll get rid of some employees now i might need new people elsewhere in reality it's about cutting costs in science as i'm no longer doing this here and jobs being i'm doing it elsewhere to get the workers not only blame auto executives for failing to find innovative solutions they also hold
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politicians responsible you pointed to delegations are reacting far too late they always support the automakers who are actually responsible for the problems they should be ensuring our jobs are say i don't like the auto industry employees are often weighed down by insecurity and accidental fears germany the nation of cars is also plagued by self-doubt. the germans and the automobile share a long emotional history. at the end of the 19th century karl benson got leap dimer laid the foundations of what would become the automotive era. the internal combustion engine is the flagship of german engineering following the 2nd world war cars are mass produced. let's it was the years of hunger deprivation and war there was this opportunity you could go or if you wanted when you could afford to do it with your own car. so suddenly the world was open and. politicians commit
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fully to nurturing the auto industry. basildon roads was cheaper than expanding public transport in the 1950 s. there was so much faith in technology and the future that people said we're going to rebuilt the city. they made this car oriented city with wide roads easy access for cars all these tore down neighborhoods to do it so. the whole country is rebuilt with cars in mind when problems arise politicians stepped in to help during the 2008 financial crisis the government introduces an environmental bonus to help the industry. in the 1st you have. to live or is every an up to 20 vehicles for. 500000000000 euros exclusively for the auto industry the relationship between car makers and politicians is a close one and fostered by former german chancellor's. who had practiced and or
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decades being a car country has been part of germany and that drivers have freedom on the roads that car companies do their business here this idea has actually grown in importance over time. in 29000 more than 800000 people were directly employed by the auto industry but the mechanical engineering metalworking and textile sectors all benefit from the high volume of orders from car makers to an estimated 2000000 people depend on the auto industry for work that's nearly one in 20 of germany's working population this globe is clear why the copper plays such a central role for us. when it comes to politics automakers have long enjoyed a special status. if you don't want some of the industries especially close to my house it's obvious to me. terms of industrial policy it's perfectly clear the
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automobile is the lifeblood of germany's bavaria business total the auto industry is key and germany is we have a great responsibility for the many jobs that depend on it i mean. for years political decisions that benefit the auto industry have been made not only at the federal level but also in the e.u. parliament. the environmental organization transport and environment campaigns for sustainable transportation in europe. uli a policy going over advisors parliamentarians for the organization she sees the effects of the auto lobbies influence on a daily basis i think for many many years what we have seen working here in brussels is that there is really a lot of protectionism on behalf of the german government towards the industry protecting the auto industry often comes at the expense of the environment in 1909
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the e.u. wants to require manufacturers to take back obsolete vehicles germany's environment minister green party politician you're going to team supports the plan however it would be very costly for the car makers car chancellor gerhard schroder intervenes in a turn about 13 abstains from the vote in brussels. the motion fails. you are willing to give the auto industry you've been untouched. since the arguments before the automotive industry are of such great importance for the chancellor that's at the highest china's position so i know it's going to cause its own for the moment sometimes it really feels that the government is in the pockets of the german manufacturer and a lot of the time the german government has intervened and really supported the business interests all of them in the factories here in brussels in your decision making. kristina dec 5th works for lobby
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control an organization investigating the influence of the auto industry on the german government the idea that this is the d.d.a. the german association of the automotive industry is one of the most powerful lobbies right here in the government district it's a stone's throw to the chancellor as office which means easy access to politician was. the major german automakers also position themselves close to the bone does talk the german parliament b.m.w. votes wagon and the vdare. and of course dimer. a short walk from the german parliament is the folks walking group forum. come up and have found out that the group representation is located upstairs that's really the lobbying office so they exert influence on the government from here if
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mr steak former government spokesman for both choice and macro works here michelle young hasn't had the office that he used to head merkel's office you can see the relationship between politics and the current lobbyist very close. longstanding relationships give auto lobbyists special access to government personnel. the auto industry people go in and out of government offices there on a 1st name basis they have a tight relationship closer than almost any other industry here. top politicians regularly move on to jobs in the auto industry. one prominent example this month. he was a former federal transport minister for the center right christian democrats and a member of parliament for more than 30 years after leaving parliament he became the chief lobbyist for the b.d.a. his letters to the chair. or begin with dear. maximillian formerly the
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press spokesman for the christian social union now the chief lobbyist at b.m.w. and echoed funny claydon a member of the christian democrats federal executive committee. in 2006 he was the party's federal treasurer. in september 23rd teen fun claydon was serving as minister of state in the chancellor's office 2 months miter he became the chief lobbyist at di mark. scott in fact frankly i got inside his employment contract with time there while he was still working in the chancellor's office you have to ask do has interests already lie with his future employer or is he still making decisions for the common good which is the job of a politician or political system. lobbying is a permitted part of the german democratic tradition what is unusual about the auto
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lobby is that it's consistently staffed by high ranking ex politicians hildegard miller the current president is no exception as under the americans former minister of state she's well connected to the chancellor's office shortly before the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic she is seen as a beacon of hope someone to lead the auto industry out of the crisis for her annual salary at the b.d.a. more than 1000000 euros. if we're going to continue to fund our a top politicians demand high salaries and only the large corporations can afford that hardly any environmental association can afford a top politician as its chief lobbyist i hope you can see. our environmental and societal interests falling by the wayside who is politics for. at the federal transport ministry in berlin parliamentary state secretary stephan bilger tries answering the questions. there are various legitimate interests that includes
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employees in the automotive industry as well as residents who want clean air means to man has a ministry where of course tasked with reconciling all of these different legitimate interests that is what we are trying to do here day in and day out as was. and what of the environmental interests in the transport ministry in 2019 german transport minister andrea scheuer met 11 times with representatives from the automotive industry despite requests if you did not meet once with environmental groups that is and this is a huge imbalance and shows what mr scheuer stands for he stands for protecting the german car industry minister not the environment and consumers and so that's. you know a lot of real government support has shaped german industry policy for many years. since the late 1990 s. parliamentarians have discussed stricter limits on c o 2 emissions but instead of concrete rules they decided voluntary measures are
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enough. the former environment minister defends the decision. of all she commitment to to recycle goal is not bad simply because it's voluntary the question is if the goal will be achieved and if it is there's no need to bring out the most talk just tools of persuasion and. it quickly becomes clear that the industry is falling far short of it c o 2 reduction targets. the car industry the car sector in europe for example is one of the biggest contributors to c o 2 emissions so we have to go faster and the car industry has to go faster but instead of preparing on time investing and rolling out technology they prioritized profits in the good he is the u.s. where they didn't have any regulations to meet. meanwhile the issue of climate change grows more serious every year in 2007. until americal now chancellor of
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germany speaks out in favor of ambitious e.u. climate targets but in 2013 when political groups in the european parliament agree to drastic cuts in c o 2 emissions from passenger cars medical intervenes. because the stream germany some of the larger manufacturers were not happy with the agreement so merican came to brussels with a mission to weaken and adjust the regulation to that meets with the text of the new law has already been approved by member states the vote should be a mere formality. you know is there when at the last minute the plan is stopped in its tracks to all be called up by the council to say we're very sorry but they groom and no longer halts we have to renegotiate and there was an open drawing of the room members of parliament was saying that this is unprecedented we just agree that you gave us your word and so there was a real scandal in the european decision making. after tough negotiations
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a compromise is reached car manufacturers can count especially fuel efficient vehicles several times toward their overall balance using so-called super credits the strict limits have been eased until america is pleased with her success as a company that's why the term super credit has a super meaning if i may add. this in the tradition and we're a country where cars are manufactured and that's not the case in all the e.u. states and you can see from the boats at the european level that there are different approaches as they stand how each industry ashamed but the idea that we are somehow putting on the brakes. protecting the interests of one's own industry is a legitimate political goal but has it gone too far in germany in 2015 the u.s. environmental protection agency discovers illegal software in. v.w.
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diesel cars the software manipulates data related to the emissions of nitrogen oxides which are especially hazardous to health it's the biggest fraud scandal in germany's recent economic history and all the major manufacturers are implicated the art and the auto industry apparently feels very secure in germany the government hardly intervenes and always shields them from consequences so that creates the breeding ground for something like the innovation scare. the diesel scandal plunges the auto industry into crisis and prompts environmental protests the mood shifts if i'm extremely angry before going to halting waves of algae from put these prosecutors are investigating stadler in the diesel scandal prosecutors say there is danger of collusion. a turning point for the entire industry. journalist and consultant don don lemon has been covering the automotive industry
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for many years. and often he would sleep don't forget not only the german government but all of us the taxpayers fund research in the automotive industry that would if you gave a lot of money was invested in the development of hydrogen fuel and electro mobility over the last 10 years and nothing came of it so politicians got angry. put it they felt they were duped. but politicians also shoulder some blame the german car industry slept through important innovations being made elsewhere in the world for years economic interests were prioritized over the environment and public health it's a high price to pay road traffic today accounts for about one 5th of all c o 2 emissions in germany to leave for the federal government has never been interested in sustainable mobility. car summits were not a place where that was celebrated its instead it was about safeguarding what already exists in sri. what kind of industrial policy can reconcile the needs of
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the environment and the economy it's a question that's of existential importance for a place like stuttgart. the city's former green party mayor fritz kuhn has unique insight into the conflict between these interests. the government's job is to determine emissions limits to nitrogen oxides and so on . and the automotive industry job on the economic side is to provide the best to be a cold on top of the best doesn't just mean the fastest and biggest it also means environmentally friendly vehicles. for decades made in germany stood for innovative manufacturing. put more than 5 years after the diesel scandal the transport ministry is reviewing its policies with a critical eye. since the opportunities for innovation have been missed sometimes
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by politicians but also by car makers and in-house now it's up to them to bring these innovative vehicles to market with. the i.a.e.a. international motor show september 29 team the automotive industries message is clear car companies are turning over a new leaf folks wagon plans to switch entirely to battery powered vehicles by 2040 dimer and b.m.w. are also focusing on battery powered vehicles but they promise to develop other driving technologies as well but change takes time dimer estimates that its fleet of new passenger cars will not be completely c o 2 neutral for another 2 decades this week that may sound like a long time but in fact it's only 3 product life cycles of feeding and it's not much time when you consider what a huge transformation it is for us just. many have long since lost confidence in
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the car companies outside the halls of the i.a.e.a. 25000 people demonstrate for change they want a mobility revolution that cuts out fossil fuels and the influence of big corporations. the diesel struggle cost the star conic product the car in a completely different light. and it intensified people's awareness of environmental issues like the guy who is climate change things it's not jug it has to be taken seriously the one day we'll look back on this period and understand it was a time of pop culture change because. amid this transformation disturbing news about a new virus in china starts to circulate. we now have a name for that does is it is called lead 90 and and i will spell it c. all v.
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a deep hyphen 19. what it will still take time to understand just how hard this virus will hit the world why it in stuttgart in feb 2020 the threat is not yet felt at di my management and the engineers are working hard to make up for lost time. c.e.o. . is steering the company through a difficult time. to tell us what's on offer be the transformation of the auto industry is causing a lot of internal people which affects our company to normal because we're investing huge amounts in electoral mobility digital technologies new business models neuer shifts at the same time but in order to be able to finance these new investments we have to significantly improve our cost efficiencies on a few notes. the company plans to invest more than 10000000000 euros in the do.
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element of new vehicles. but di miller is still struggling with the fallout from the diesel scandal litigation costs fines penalties product recalls all these go on the balance sheet in the negative column. in order to be as cost efficient as possible cuts are made to personnel. and we've outlined a plan and set clear targets for not cutting with a lawnmower as it were spreading cuts intelligently in different areas and in our goal by the end of 2022 is to save 1400000000 and personnel costs all costs of course. 1.4000000000 euros even before the pandemic as many as 15000 jobs are at stake. and major suppliers also want to cut thousands of jobs past mistakes are taking their toll on. the dog show it will be interesting for many years the german automotive industry did not take the environmental
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movement seriously enough times be they have their quarterly reports on the stock exchange stick but they were not sustainable in an ecological sense vons now bats coming back to bite them because the electric car that people always talk about isn't really here yet. in fact the race for new driving technologies is taking place primarily outside germany in china subsidies and purchase premiums drive technical innovation. in 2016 the chinese government makes a decision with far reaching implications sina china wants to force or to make has to make a production quotas to its. failure to comply could result in heavy penalties this puts pressure on german manufacturers for them china is the most important market nearly one in 3 cars is sold there. the germans were once the industry's
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pioneers now they find themselves on the sidelines other players are making the rules. and then give them a key you know who runs the world markets like china and china has made it clear decision in favor of electric mobility. if we don't change and if we keep doing the same old stuff we'll wake up in a world what germany is no longer an industrialized country. china is on the rise just days before the coronavirus brings the country to a standstill people here are confident. nearly 500 electric car manufacturers are registered in china in 2019. 1 of them is neo in hoofing. thousands of electric vehicles roll off the assembly line here every month the automaker is building s.u.v.s with a premium market vehicles designed to compete with dimer and b.m.w.
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so how did coffee to with this tradition though yes we swallow 100 years of history we have a commit a lot so battery car is still is a little bit less complicated from predator was there or you'll like that it gave us a chance. so you see what is coming from that paulo on the 2nd a platform. victor grew heads production at neo he says the company's success would have been impossible without political support. they are supporting build up the project stations because these studies station involvement actually is the one of the key factor across time or to choose between the traditional no all your car or badly for. victor cruz says. china's targeted
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promotion of electro mobility could be decisive in the end. german friends should think about when it will focus on that otherwise china will verify. that that i think. by 2017 china already has 190000 public immobility charging stations in germany at the same time there are just 9500. the fact that alternative driving systems have been ignored for so long in the birthplace of the automobile frustrates even some german developers china welcomes them with open arms. the former b.m.w. executive daniel keshet co-founded his own car brand in 2017 bitin electric vehicles for the premium class.
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i think germany has spent a long time trying to diesel cause a flood he's a much the question but he changes a threat or an opportunity with as a stall stall we of course see a huge opportunity in this kind of charges if we can basically start from scratch with a blank sheet of the top here. a pioneering spirit full of optimism the former giants of the industry have some catching up to do. vincy friends and if you're leaving with making good money and a successful career then you don't feel any pressure it's going on for if i remember myself opposite 345 years ago we were in absolute to not electrum ability with moscow productive i think people have gotten a bit too comfortable with their own success we've got rid of them i know for. the neocon church believes the future of electro mobility is here in china.
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this is due in large part to chinese industry policies. that are killed us and we built this clones here and i 18 months you know because i like to say that the chinese speak with a lot of support from the local government and see these effect as simply a determination hit to drive this change forward quickly and speed is crucial because the competition is famous in one book if you really want to seize an opportunity you have to be fast friends you have to get him during the short window of time and carve out the spots in your. in january just before the coronavirus knock down 340 robots stand ready and waiting for their 1st shift some 300000 vehicles are expected to roll off the production line here each year german engineering made in china she not and is the china has introduced a very good subsidy policy but what you're showing always looks pretty much what the actual working conditions are like as specially at the level of the suppliers
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is another thing altogether i'm going to put believes it's the sleepily to it's an industry policy that is ruthless that does not take social cultural aspects into consideration of the that's why i'd never consider it a model that is transferable or even worth striving for as the street i'm stephen smith the. chinese communist leadership is pushing ahead they want change not compromise. the german government also says it wants to put e-cards on its roots the goal 1000000 by 2020 not even a 3rd of this was achieved. before he got politics certainly has a major influence because we set the conditions on the manufacturers have to implement them but in the end it all depends on the customer so its customers don't accept change it will be difficult and that's really. the demand for electric cars in germany falls far short. with expectations is it the customer's fault. there
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could be kind of a customer always has a say that's always true as the customer i'm actually a little bit the king because i can actually steer the industry has been i don't agree with the industry's point that the customer is the chooser uses that use as as they say so i would say if the kind this she put the same marketing power they do today on s.u.v.s towards clean 0 emission vehicles their sales would else or go . in the e.u. the pressure is growing on automakers to start driving change. the diesel scandal weakened these companies position those who fail to comply with emission limits in the future will face costly penalties. the car lobby nonetheless continues its efforts to influence political decisions in favor of the internal combustion engine. karim adelie is a french green party politician and
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a member of the european parliament she chairs a committee on transport and tourism and. when implementing stricter environmental regulations she often encounters pushback from the auto industry a favorite tactic of car lobbyists using exemptions to circumvent emissions limits that are already in place that was the case in january 2028 when the emissions limits for nitrogen oxides was discussed at this committee meeting you know up in the out last in no europe implement your a 610 dead in 2007 but thanks to the diesel scandal we discovered that in fact the euro's 6 standard was not being met by common effect rest with them. in 2017 the e.u. introduces more realistic emissions tests this is a problem for german auto manufacturers whose vehicles cannot pass muster when tested fairly. you have to act. in this case exit from clayton immediately turned
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to his government contacts that he wrote e-mails he called the chancellor's office and he said this is not the way to go it's too fast for us we need different limits he essentially put the brakes on and even alex changes have since become public which show how the chancellor his office reacted what. that was in october 2015 when they simply said you don't know how to meet the standards send it back don't worry you can exceed them by 110 percent until 2020 and then by 50 percent after 2020. karim adelie wants to get rid of the exemption. he said no not on european standards are very ambitious but if you look at the standards in the u.s. and in japan they are actually twice the strict disaster especially for nitrogen oxide emissions don't go to no more than 600000 criminal death and your reproducing
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nitrogen oxides admission was remarkably much you like. nonetheless in summer 2020 it looks like the exemption for excessively high nitrogen oxide emissions will remain in place short term victory for the industry. the e.u. plans further restrictions on pollutant emissions. to meet the 2030 limits sales of e-commerce will have to increase more than 10 fold. then without warning coded 19 strikes sending the auto industry into turmoil and threatening its very existence. the near global shutdown plunges the world economy into its worst crisis since world war 2 bills have slumped assembly lines are at a standstill the outlook is forced. automakers
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are hit full force. this boat lot happened was incredibly serious the existing problems with the industry's transformation were laid back when the realize they were in one of the deepest crises that i've personally experienced so with us with something we've never seen in germany and never had to face in the auto industry. in china the pandemic is also hitting pioneers of emo billet. was considered one of the most promising electric car startups in the summer of 2020 its financing dries up the company lays off almost all of its employees. whether or not cars will ever roll off the production line here and then change is an open question germany's automakers turn to politicians for help millions of jobs are at stake. knowing he tells the support that puts
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people back to work but we'd be pleased if politicians would consider the idea of providing incentives for consumers for goods while about 6 is what. the industry receives backing from the premier's of germany's automotive states but more than 60 percent of germans reject the idea of subsidizing the purchase of a new car environmental groups call for a fundamental change in transport policy a change in attitude that's felt even in the halls of the federal government in june 2020 the german government decides on a coronavirus stimulus program without the auto industry's import and with it this is a price. we couldn't simply put together an economic stimulus package which is what it's less likely done it has to be a package that looks towards the future aspect it's. going against the car lobbies wishes the package includes no generous subsidies for the purchase of diesel and gasoline engines. for the automotive industry it was really quite
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a blow and i don't think they expected it overpowered i think this is the most visible sign that something is changing in the relationship between politics and cars and political culture what impact will this have on germany's car industry romances will spare her fears those calling for change will be left in the lurch and since it's my nicholas until he gets my biggest concern that the because of the economic pressures and the risks facing these companies too much with the whole issue of alternative solutions my stall again this i'm afraid of the depth of the crisis will result in companies disappearing from the markets and then the whole system might start to wobble this is the. how dependent is germany's economy on the well being of the automotive industry. scientist from the economic research company prognosis study this question in 2018 c.e.o. christiane birkhoff explains. this is in the automobile industry automotive
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industry is in a decisive pace right now due to various issues particularly the technology shift towards electro mobility we must ask the question what is the future viability of the german auto industry industry. to answer this the researchers sketch out 2 possible scenarios. in one the german automotive industry masters the challenges ahead of. us under the and the other scenario is one in which the german automotive industry fails to do so or at least fails to do so comprehensively and to sell there is a reason to at least consider this possibility for me to smile in every going to see. if german automakers do not manage to innovate they could face a bleak future according to prognosis the automotive industry would shrink by about 40 percent by $24051.00 in 3 jobs in vehicle manufacturing would be long. which
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would have repercussions for the entire german economy. and of currency of you one question is what is the impact of 500000 fewer people working in a sector that significant income but you can also see that the entire german economy doesn't immediately go down the drain i think that's something that's important to understand these days for st. even if the automotive industry were to suffer such massive losses the study forecasts a relatively moderate overall loss of economic output 4.6 percent by 2045. the short term impact would be considerable long term however looking back at the country's economic history gives cause for hope. indeed lets them foot the other mood in the last 40 years we've had all kinds of industries in germany that became world leaders then died out and just keep the textile industry chemical industry consumer electronics and we can do we see these losses reflected in the development
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of the gross domestic product on the know because each success lead to other strengths and lifted other sectors of the economy. and over a period of 20 or 25 years i can basically imagine something like that happening in the automotive industry without these places suffering any substantial damage and chop. a comforting prospect even without the renown auto industry there's still hope for prosperity and jobs in germany. but it probably won't reach that point germany may be behind when it comes to email but the car industry is still counted among the most innovative in the world and it has a good chance of catching up where will germany's car companies be in 10 years germans and else to quote use the best cars in the world and i really really hope that in 5 or 10 years time germany will transform transition and. the produce in
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the best electric cars in the last. burger is also optimistic despite the pandemic. still from the middle convinced of the auto industry and germany will get its act together for community to missed most of the optimism is only justified if top executives quickly realize that climate protection is not an afterthought but a major undertaking of the next 20 years to nixon sponsorship. is tough and i hope they'll get their act together survive this transformation and move forward bravely and that will still have a european auto industry and 10 years time 2 years. hopes to see a shift in the relationship between the automotive industry and politics. your version is this the end 10 years that i would like to see the auto industry imbedded in a broad democratic social discourse standing for
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a mobility policy that is oriented toward the common good will be to its critics to . the year 2020 will go down in the history of german industrial policy as a turning point it's the year the german government decided that while the car may be important it's no longer more important than everything else. to the point strong opinions are clear positions international perspectives. a number of museums here in germany have large collections of songs on one african but the government here is now talking about returning at least some of the priceless treasures to africa so why has it taken so long to find out on to the points transmitted to the point. if 90 minutes on t.w. . both for the over match at home the
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