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that protection. is what impact will the elves. because change doesn't happen on its own. make up your own mind. w. wait for minds. from. the world is in flux and china's rule is increasingly important but in our coronal world order getting reliable information from inside the country is difficult and. that was that was. what exactly is happening in china and how should we deal with the country's growing influence we put these questions to acclaimed artist and activist by way way once a prisoner in china and now living in exile. fear so many human rights
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lawyers disappearing every months every year where ozzy. that's us really should ask her. the battle for china's future role in a world that is currently being fought in hong kong by thousands of young people. joined his group as titan tears since the beginning of the pandemic and there's no sign of that changing so is china open to a dialogue. if there's anyone who knows how to deal with china and what's at stake in hong kong its chinese artist ai wei wei. his critical artwork often got him in trouble with the chinese authorities and after a period of detainment he eventually left the country in 2015 k.
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walk. i think i. can go back but i don't know i want america to come out. by way documents everything and shares his life and work with more than half a 1000000 followers on instagram we arranged a corona safe meeting with him in cambridge england and asked him how we should interpret the information we are getting from china. the entire now where often information is not very clear. and not only west but the to their own citizens to trans people internet is censored and stayed around the machine is is purely. tells parviz. am how do you think china has handled the
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outbreak. after the beginning there in the they have agreed has said taking. control information isn't the very essential task for the party so they don't see the information objective but are rather users who are hurt or benefit the party. i'm wildly has been making confrontational artwork and documentary films for almost 40 years as a place. in mexico. highway studio in beijing was a free zone in the city for many years but in 2011 he was arrested and imprisoned for 81 days since the corona virus outbreak he has been analyzing the information for more on this city where the doctors who 1st reported the danger of the new virus were silenced delayed last for clear record because they stopped the
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doctors to tom bodett they they question them. in the police station asking them to confound and made the agreement not to talk about this and you more sold that period of time. seize. a big advantage to spirit. i'm sure it's not their intention i'm sure they miscalculate to the situation i'm sure they don't think of the route grad school. you know great deal what happened is the whole world also heard the pig but you know communist party they will never meet this kind. mystic you know never. they are people. he meets this kind of mistake. so the information we receive from
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china's official channels is limited and often to be taken with a grain or 2 of song in who hung however a small group of citizen journalists have gone in search of the truth. they share facts figures and images with the world via social media. words i told him that. you should. be good. to water dish. was out in the draw. have you followed the citizen journalism reporting from yes there are a few. they did the reporting. a small group of citizen journalists became active in the early days of the pandemic and were hung since once again the government was releasing so little information
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snowden. you can see us well these are the same you know but different level. because in the west so you have journalism you have a different party you have freedom of speech so it's march difficult and costly for western government to make a life but that doesn't mean they don't want to make up why all the power want to make. but it was a fun being. here and what is your for. you see the whole. this is someone who survives although you miss that you. know we're. human beings but that we have no rights you know never. never have a chance to speak out but our self sits there anyway. so with all the while doing.
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so that. she. can be in for example he was a businessman. those people are already in our e.p. poll they're not on tech columnist they're not trying to. stay power. consarned about the fact they want to tell the truth. to show solutions to the base. one of which you all because. it's a show that you good. she.
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says of the big show. some of my desire. for you know the wisdom of the what do you. use or how do. you lie you go everywhere you go there's a lot of you are doing that you well you. do was probably the most of. those if you don't you would you. know. i don't. mean they're going to you will find you soon the no one is on top.
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of you. being put in jail and disappear nobody know where they are i'm. it's a very very. strange one the west demand the information i don't have now we'll see we are very transparent you know all the information. don't tell where where they put those individuals. you know there are so many humorous lawyers disappear in every monster every year where as if. that's where some really should not ask. and then nobody asked the ticket or salerno most situations. that is bad because that does send a clear signal. the understand of the west doesn't really care. so long as those those activists are still present.
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there's no independent judicial system the can arrest anybody can make anybody disappear make me disappear or disappear 81 days it's no lawyer my family doesn't know where i don't know where i was being put he knew of block off and driving the wrong and you know very secret location a military base. what struck me is that the you were trying to dialogue if an indeterminate how do you see that i'm crazy guy in dialogue i love the. conversation as a serious a response i i think. i'm dealing with a human being who military goes. lights up like this and sitting up to see like this and the report to them if i want to go to pastoral or
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wash my hands you know ira step every more so it is good training for me. to say the word we're sorry to tell you why you gold here some would never recognize you. that is at his her heart to hear you know because she was. yes for. i i make me feel very sorry. i know. they don't believe a watch and they're saying they're doing their job. you know i feel pretty positive you know why they have to do that. do you think of your father yes last no mormon dyson couple of whom he was in jail for
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years and then he acts out for 20 years. i grew up with him and the whole he functioned that helps me a lot. in sr he's young yet same exact same province now and they put that we were. his how many times i was ridiculous. he tried to commit suicide several times. but he still has a tough man he has been going through all those small stiff and cold situation lot where you saw the physical punishment man totally you saute but he's some 5 ft i around him very much. to go while watching the other boys and that was are those are. eager to get off to somebody other look at why they're going to do the work part of what it's insured up to are. you know
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wasn't a very good knowledge about how you doing this and here was yours i don't know was it the one. who got a lot of you know none of that true or. are you not sure when you are. similar to doing. the citizen journalists in china have received little support from the west so far. if you ask modern citizens be 80 percent are various such as why there was a communist party. because they are the number no another condition the whole life is about a person wash it's very successful. and there's so people doesn't really care that
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much so the words truths never be mentioned they're watching. a central television which is for god and i read day and then very successfully. the mind the set the whole nation. so that is really dangerous because you have 41400000000 people which i mean informed. but what percentage just. follows this said center mr aris interests in europe percent 0 percent or below 0 because the. internet has been very well controlled strongest civilian states created. not only controls the formation of the big. country. your
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fish. image fingerprint your blood type your your. what do your buy and the who would talk to. you you are asked and the whole see your health condition and all this are completely states hence. that gives such advantage for them to man 10 so called their stability. their improving those technologies the information control and the lies in. are we facing their future of complete serviettes oh yeah that's for sure not future where you preserve that computer civilians. the chinese people don't seem
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to worry so much about privacy. they're not a worry to 1st. train never really had their. private property. there's a communist society and there are subtle points you have no private property you don't have privacy. you know you used to believe. everything belonged to the nation even your body your mind. and in the house for 18 milling communist about brits 80 meeting this biggest. dark society in the world. some couples that one day get into the party they have to receive their red heads and the to repeat this 3 sentence to be loyal to the party willing to
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sacrifice our recent include life of the 2 protectors secret from the party. what a kind of party needs a secret. but that's china. can anyone become a member of yes if you. accept. this through. the example you are going to your trust the people who are liable you can keep a secret. you will never do for you are those troops that you can become one once you become a member you are privileged because your trust that you are part of this mafia family. since the last virus outbreak sars in 2003 china has changed quite
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a bit thinks i way way the west still seemed very far away then where is now western economies are much more dependent on china. the arnold had not become a soul. becomes so important in pass the time these 30 years. their speed of development catches up. almost become number 2 or number one nation u.k. even imagine. and can see every developed nation such as europe or us are deeply involved under depend on the economy of attack and. i think the west. for their own
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advantage. you know from their all profit they lead to their you know not to questioning the legitimacy of the so called a common values being practiced in their society saw human rights commission and the many many are looked. as being neglected by the west. as fine as long as we have a deal you know there's a lot of profit. huge profit. in the west dealing with china because you never imagine such a big labor market. deeply want to work in our body want to work and they work very fish and to me they're a good worker there are you know. they don't have protections on snow you mean. no more no workers' rights no
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all no or hell seashore as snobs here know you are a mental control so all of the sense of the west cannot develop or doesn't want to develop because there's such little profit there were turned out to do it and try and they did the market while state capitalism marsh her. the market for capitalism so they can design 5 she did and design something which still have no market yet. now i think the west facing huge problems. in the. but the same time doesn't play the same or same venue or same groups. they don't have 4 clear ideology other principles no ideology at all it's
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a set of less reach that's not ideology. so what to do. i think. this continuously be a problem between the west and china. i think it's not fair competition so you feel you are not clearly. the competition. the west or be in the. business of one type offered by a lot. but i think. western doesn't do that well. as it is no all the european union is just totally break and.
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interests and there you see how deeply germany has. something to try and. cheer many industries have clearly announced their future depends on time. and as a nation so of course they follow us lead france and other nations. are a nation in europe. for a. partial you could work for their principles just try though. the you know the prophet i i think confrontation also is kind of dialogue. and. sometimes you can have a piece for dialogue but sometimes you need to come from fish.
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to make you feel for the harm caused by the op or i mean as being all or almost a year now. the situation is that spirit of the young people their naive innocent they believe nick the they will not loose the ground of our freedom and they fight really fight to defend. the same time was on the other side does central government garment they don't give a damn you know they don't care they would sacrifice i would assume i need to make. me come calling become stable. sold the. brutal police forces. they arrested most of my goodness.
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you know it's very hard to fight for such states because they're professionally hired to do their job and this young people have to do it after. school after. working ours as their song united and as they have for clear mission and a very impressive very brief brief intelligent determined. but that and could be very sad.
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but they seem somehow to relief that they can make a difference. they are making some difference because. this whole generation become more clear about who they are the enemy the sun the home all impossible and i think of those deeply rooted i know their names so much. in the battle is now over. but. a. little. that's a good if we all did our own to help a lot of us that's
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a sense of offering them a speech. top of the warriors. and it can be small noise but has to be. beamed to those homes. really it was a call to those have been good to us and told to the ethiopians the change was. truly just trying to hold it for you still would you try to be the final cheese with the beer bottles or more shit on them she allowed him to cut your labia shit. will.
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