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a weekly radio. if you would like any more information on the kroner virus or any other science coffee, you should really check out our podcast. you can get it wherever you get your podcast. you can also find those at w dot com, forward slash science. let me move in. we're still learning about because at 19 we know it came from an animal. but does that mean they also need the job? out very friends can become carriers and the disease. and in rare instances turn into a risk for owners. me safari, susan shelters have started a no q liking a lions and wolf to protect us and the animals experimental vaccines are
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specifically made for them. conservation is saying we brought the so now self by our respective nature, posing animals ever closer to humans. ah, a team of experts met for the 1st time this week to help develop a global plan to stop the spread of diseases from animals to humans. meantime, russia has developed the 1st corona virus vaccine for animals releasing an initial batch of $17000.00 doses. researches in finland and the us working on similar jobs . this cat is the pioneer all be at an unwilling one cash. the cat is one of the 1st recipients of the 1st ever cove at 19 vaccine for animals. his owners, daniel and l 0 say they signed up for the vaccination just to be on the safe side.
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all of us, all our cat goes outside a lot. sometimes he doesn't even come home at night because he's doing his own thing, but he lives with us. so we're always concerned, he could bring an infection home with him. we plan to start a family and heard that cove. it could be dangerous for pregnant women. so it's better to be safe, it doesn't hurt the cat disbelieves, and look at the vaccine, will provide these cats with immunity from the corona virus for at least 6 months, according to the doctors here. so what would animals can show respiratory symptoms of the disease problems breathing a cough or a loss of their sense of smell? essentially the symptoms are the same as they are for people just in a much, much lighter form, which i guess missing with experiment probably. but it's not the symptoms themselves that are concerned here. the world health organization has warned that animals, including minx could become carriers for the corona virus and even pass it back to people. last year, 17000000 minks were cold in denmark,
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after some of them caught cove at 19 the russian made vaccine called carney vac called could prevent that. according to developers, the country's veterinary and agricultural watch dog crossing was not as or began trials on rabbits. dogs, cats, foxes, and other animals in october. now they say the job is ready for mass production was much better than what the rest of the vaccine was developed as the preventative measure, something aimed at the future in case there are negative situations like the development of a mutation that can be passed between different types of animals, we shouldn't forget that any measures for disease prevention for animals prevent people getting sick as well. because around 70 percent of human diseases come from animals. you either go behind it or drivel up. now, the vaccines developers say there has already been demand for the job from businesses in several european countries, including in germany are said it was not sore recommends the vaccine for animals
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kept in close contact, including at for farms and zeus. they say that for now, pets like these cats are very unlikely to become a risk to their owners. tell us met and is president of the institute. are we taking things a little too far? it's almost fascinating animals or is that the strategy that we may need to beat this pandemic? i think we have to define what animals we actually mean. if you talk about pets, for example, i mean pets get infected from their infected owners, but there is no single documented case that pets actually transfer the virus back to humans. the situation is different for, for producing and most like, for example, mnc. there are the infection in mnc farms originates from yeoman's, but then mink replicate the virus to a large extent and then are able indeed to re infect humans. so there are
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documented cases in that aspect when it comes to pen. how much of this is a money maker, would you say, and how much is essential in terms of pets? i think i mean, dan, that the prime procedure and not to infect them is to keep a distance if you are infected yourself. so if you are, are in isolation, then keep away from your pets as much as possible. i don't think there is an indication of from explanation of, of pets in terms of, for producing animals. the situation is a little different. there we have the possibility that the virus replicates growth in deep in these farms to a very large extent, and this can suffice to then re infect humans. so, vaccination in this particular setting might be one of the options. of course, they are autos and the preferred option for me at least would be mixing that humans into 1st place so that humans are not alone, no longer posing a danger for any most, whether they are pets or whether they are for producing animals. in for producing
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animals, we have seen a situation that the virus because it, it replicates it multiplies so much, that variance gets elected. and some of these variance could at least radically indeed, pose a problem. so there might also be an indication from x in eating, just kind of most to avoid the appearance of variance. and a good point, we should think about the animals as well. of course, a lot of fun animals. they're already pumped with antibiotics to prevent the spread of diseases. and that's had all sorts of adverse effects on our health to i mean it and the situation with farm animals and corporate 19. there is no reason for concern as far as we can see, livestock and poultry are to a large extent, are absolutely resistant towards this virus. at least this is true for, for
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a pix and it's, it's true for a chicken and ducks and turkeys. cattle show a very, very limited susceptibility, which also doesn't pose a problem at the moment. so, i mean, in terms of that kind of animal, i think we are on the safe side, towards the intervening in nature, in general, got us into this mess in the 1st place. couldn't more intervention increased risk? i mean, viruses are part of nature and the function of ecosystems. i mean, it's true. viruses are proud of nature, and humans are proud of the animal kingdom, initiate environment. so basically, i mean, this is what biology is all about. but on the other hand, i mean, they have been interventions in was pub, wildlife populations that were beneficial. if you have a defined population and a defined pathogen, a defined infectious agent. this could work. and examples are, for example, rabies fox mediated rabies, which has been eradicated in century or by bait,
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immunization of foxes. classical find fever has been eradicated from wild boar. also in central europe, i paid immunization, and in the past has been eradicated globally. but i mean, these are special situations and i fully agree, i don't think that vaccinating wildlife populations or any intervention and wildlife populations gifts and it gives a better situation. i think, i mean it's more the change of human habits, winter ice, which is required to avoid the spill over events, but even to spill over events that happen probably irregularly. i was a part of nature. well, you mentioned we should all get the job. a lot of us is some other way we can change our behavior to lower this risk. i mean, it's difficult to define clearly to interface between wildlife and humans or livestock and humans, but definitely lowering risky contexts,
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whatever they may be, is definitely one of the major measures of, of a decrease in risk in general, just for all to decrease, decrease the risk in the spill overs that is has to do with direct contact with animals. it has to do with going into wildlife habitat to strongly interfering with wildlife populations interfering with bio diversity. so this is a whole range of measures that actually need to be taken into account was fat and lighter. president of the nice, lovely institute. thank you very much for being on the show today. you're welcome. as far as vaccines for humans go, here's a good question. for derek williams, our science correspondent. oh, can you mix doses of different scenes? oh, circumstances are really kind of forced opinions to shift some on this issue. to give you an idea of how complex it's become. let's look at the situation here in germany
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until a few weeks ago, mixing and matching vaccines was pretty for bowden here because the only safety and efficacy data that we had came from trials involving 2 dose regimens of the same vaccines. and because diverging from bad would mean sailing into kind of uncharted waters. then, very rare cases of serious blood clotting events start to be caused by the astrazeneca vaccine began popping up in younger people. and that prompted of the word easier to reevaluate recommendations for people under 60, who had already received a 1st dose of astrazeneca and them for the 2nd administer dose. the authorities now recommend using a messenger r n. a vaccine like the one from pfizer, via on tech,
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a brand new spanish starting now indicates that that regimen is both safe and maybe even a lot more effective. but, and the weeks before those results came in, the authorities had to make a choice. and they decided that one risk, which in younger people is very rarely developing a serious blood clot after a 2nd dose of astrazeneca that, that outweighed the risk of mixing and matching vaccines. in general, most experts seem to think that receiving a follow up dos that's different from your 1st those shouldn't re pose major problems. still, the health authorities are pretty conservative and they want really a lot of solid proof. a recent british study looking into some combinations, indicated that mixing and matching, while apparently faith also sometimes provokes more side effects than 2 doses
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of the same vaccine. other studies looking at a range of different combinations or ongoing and we, we should know a lot more by the summer in derek williams. there, i'm ben for all in. thanks for watching. stay safe and see you again. so, ah, to own or not to well, what about a sharing economy change in thinking it's changing the economy to create something new the you cannot mix magazines and really in germany next on the w
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to the point in the clear positions international perspective. the past 10 days, i've seen the worst violence between israelis and palestinians in years, a deadly flare up between the israeli army and the militant group that has people the world over asking middle east crisis. what can stop the cycle to the point in 60 minutes on dw, ah little guys, that is a 77 percent. the platform is due to be being issues and share ideas. you know, i know the north africa population is growing. and
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young people clearly have the solutions the future seventy's present. now every return on the w me ah, ah, ah, ah, i think there's a world market for maybe 5 computers. that's what i, b m chairman thomas j watson is meant to said back in 1943, a good example of how bad we can be at predicting the future. and that includes the inventions that have the potential to transform how we live and work this week on
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made. we're looking at the innovation economy. well, you can have the best idea in the world, but if you can't capture people's imaginations, that amazing invention of yours will never see the light of day. you need funding to get that. you need investors, as you have to be convincing, they're the ones you have to win over 1st well before the consumer. the other thing is that the investors have to believe they're going to get their money back from you and make a return. hopefully a big one. it's risky business, but no pain, no gain. and the rules haven't changed even in this pandemic. or maybe you could say covert 19 with the appetite for some real risk taking a life saving vaccine and a huge money maker. early investors in the german company by own tech, and now sitting per se, one of them with acting on behalf of the venture capital fund, wanted to come up. we put in 13 and
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a half 1000000 and this got our shareholders in return of 600000000, and that's not the end of it. that's more than a 44 fold return on the investment. it's a success story that could help other companies attract, venture capital. will it make financing innovation easier? ah, this woman knows how hard it can be to find investors. she's pleased by on tech u. s. f. like every success helps the industry and the start up seeing his her own start up linked patients and doctors, but isn't turning a profit yet happy times where they're finding capital is key when starting up a company, especially right at the very beginning, you start with seed funding, that's the 1st financial support, the early funding stage as the business idea exists and maybe a small product to an option kind of product. this is followed by other funding
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stages. a start time should have time to grow before it has to turn a profit. anyone who has money can give it it's the employees of big venture capital funds, who are on the lookout for ideas with big potential for interesting for us when a company thinks about where it will be in 10 years. and what we'll have to do by then to change the world rather than where it is now. and what i'll do next year in this man has that kind of long term vision and play us back man is a biochemist and an investor. he's driving with this for every new promising approach. he's set up a company in total, i've set up 15 companies and one of his companies market devices like this. it's designed to find biomarkers within 20 minutes. that indicates where the septic
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shock is imminent. another is researching a medication that seeks to harness an antibody to stop the muscular leakage and prevent septic shock. it's about to go into clinical testing. but phase 3 study is expensive. how can hind, the company's chief business officer faces the challenge of raising 18000000 euros? can she do this and, and a lot of we have to be transparent about where we are headed. what are the risks? but i said the opportunity to put him in the area of septic shy patient numbers is sky high. we're talking about 500000 patients in the u. s. senior each year. big crazy figures on to doesn't that which is a time. nevertheless, it's still hard to attract 18000000 euros to venture capital, especially in germany. it is equal the edge of this one like who has venture
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capital funds are much more willing to take risks than european ones. and so they have billions at their disposal. whereas the european funds might have 50000000 or 120000000 miles from new york and my own, that's 16000000 meg is and we desperately need more money. and above all, more people in wealthy countries who prepared to invest a small portion of the money into something like that. we just think in germany alone, private households have savings with 6000000 euro vicks. how isn't there a big risk attached? if the company is into success, the money is lost. ah, my own tech is an exception to that rule against the company made losses, but investors were prepared to keep injecting fresh capital even well before the corona virus pandemic. the found is with tirelessly trying to develop that at the
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time. unproven serra buick approach can see me sort of a way to really have clearly defined work. and at times i thought i see it as a privilege that we are able to live our dream didn't in the, in the context of aidan. so we're champagne and his wife is lame shield i g. the team behind the by own tech code, they vaccine have migrant backgrounds like one in 5 company founders in germany. the same goes for sophie chung to, according to the germans startups association. these founders get less capital on average, feeler cleaned them. it because many founders with immigrant backgrounds who i know personally and i include myself, we've managed to turn the sense of being different, are being treated differently into something positive for me personally. it spurred me on to prove myself to say, i'll show you what you want me to revise the background. and it takes many innovations are still out there waiting on hard drives or in the bar at trace. and
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many entrepreneurs, the eager to prove themselves, but only when they find investors will their ideas be able to bear fruit and ultimately bring returns. otherwise it's down the drain, which brings me to one innovation that most of us have been sitting on for almost every day of our lives. the whole toilet. it's an invention. so convenient, progressive and transformative that we've dedicated a whole segment to it is our reporter, kathy and folly man on the history of sanitation, me penicillin, vaccines organ transplants. all these innovations are rightfully hailed of medical milestones. but if you ask me another invention, we don't really talk about in these terms more than deserves to be held in the same regard. yes, suppose i was speaking about the news
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. you should give a crap about your crap or because it has a huge impact on your life and humanity in general. many of us take modern sanitation for granted. at this worst, it's an icky subject to be avoided due to what you know goes in there. but that's exactly the point goes in there, and the manager's like, you know, then now that's mainly for the vast majority of humans that it's walk the earth once they've done their business, they were kind of stuck with it. and that's by no means a problem of the past. even today, many people around the world don't have access to adequate sanitation that has dramatic consequences from disease to violence, to a negative impact on the local economy. the market sector itself actually has huge economic potential. this annotation industry is a multi $1000000000.00 business that goes well beyond the toilets,
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into the collection and the treatment of weight and the production of products that can be re integrated into global supply chain. let's not get ahead of us. so why did it all start me? throughout history, fantasia, for and less sophisticated appeared and disappeared repeatedly. the earliest facilities me know, the period around 5000 years ago in places like today, scotland, crete, and most impressively pakistan. the in those we looked at the nation was living in they actually walked closer in their own houses and the water supply entered also each each house. so that station watkins, ne, quotation context, which is quite similar to what we're using today. the 1st major breakthrough in modern lou technology came when sir john harrington invented the flush toilet in
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the late 16th century. he wasn't english poet, member of the 1st run court. funny enough answer, a game of actor because ajax devised featured and elevated tank, emptied water into a bowl to wash away its contents almost 200 years later in 1775. the trip was patented trips a small amount of water in the drain to prevent sewer gases from rising up. aside from liner updates down the line, this is pretty much how modern times work today. you push a button which opens the valve in the tank and the toilet flashes are floating, device lowers, and eventually opens another valve, letting new water flow into the tank. when it's full, you're ready to go again. when the target itself is only half a deal on really changed, again, is how you dispose of always after it's left to mould. not too crazy to say that
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without them the industrial revolution might not really as happened in the mid 18 hundreds exploiting populations and urban ization that to ramp and outbreaks as diseases. in english cities. many diseases spread because drinking water was contaminated with sewage. the 1st person to discover the direct link between human waste and an outbreak was a physician named john snow. after a call or outbreak ravaged a london neighbourhood in 1854. the proof that several cases had clustered around a single water pump boot next to assessment, which was the go to solution for waste management in those days. then came the great state. that's not the title for a new pix arsic. it's what londoners called this horrible state that enveloped the city in the summer of 1858. london's waist had been dumped directly into the thames for decades. but unusually high temperatures made the fall odor rising from the river and nearly unbearable. this was the final straw and eventually that to the
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construction of one of the world's 1st modern switch systems. when we revolution started on elsewhere, modern sanitation came with it. but with so many other privileges of the west, they had to create the colonized peoples did not get their fair share. they are currently 2400000000 people in the world without improve sanitation, without sanitation facilities in their home or workplace. and there's 4500000000 people over half the world's population that don't have safely managed annotation systems from the toilet all the way to the treatment of the way. this creates a huge problem and then developing world where then people, since they don't have a toilet are deprecating in the open. this sanitation crisis causes several serious issues. chief among them, risks to health, lack of access to adequate sanitation contributes to the transmission of diseases and viral outbreaks was in response to good during the, during the
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a bowler at the end 201415. and i saw the 1st time the, the, the importance of these basic facilities, according 282019 report by the world health organization. inadequate sanitation is estimated to cost 432000 deaths due to diarrhea annually open this occasion also puts people is becoming victims of violence, especially women. they face a higher risk of being sexually assaulted and these issues also have long term knock on a certain. it stopped skills for example, from going to school. if they can't safely and hygiene, if we go to the toner or when the administrative, then they may not go to school and that often happens. being unable to attend school makes it much harder to earn a living later on, let alone escape poverty. to tackle the issue wholesale, the shopping centers, putting on johns and running into the sunset, they support communities,
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education and finances to pick start a sanitation economy the toilet bar to coalition and came up with the sanitation economy approach in 2017. and it's made up to 3 distinct areas to vastly over simplify by combining a marketplace for toilet related goods and services with the marketplace for sanitation and a data driven sanitation infrastructure. communities can establish a growing, self sustaining economy in order to facilitate a transition from thinking about sanitation, the cost to thinking about it as a business opportunity. we've worked with the asian development bank and world bank to understand the economic potential of a driving sanitation economy marketplace. so we looked 1st and foremost that india as an example. and what we found is that there's a market opportunity of $97000000000.00 us dollars in 2021. allow me another big aspect of the future sanitation economy as innovation. the service
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on taking quite a multifaceted and there are many solutions that need policy and financial interventions, but also from when the technology is needed, relatively speaking, since the great thing, not all that much has changed and how we handle sanitation. but another pressing global issue is pushing activists and scientists to rethink the status quo. climate change climate change is this can be even more challenging for us on a taishan because, for example, in flooding, increasing them where people are relying on site connotation. ok between blood can walk out the contents of pit latrina was the ones in the state. well, who they are going to cause a help? how's it was? this can destroy the wolf, the pipes and other infrastructure. if there's droughts, then people might not have enough water, water and sewage systems. while climate change exacerbates the issues of honorable
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sanitation infrastructure, outdated sanitation systems in many developed countries are worsening. the effects of climate change flushing the toilet accounts for some 30 percent of a person's average daily drinking water consumption. older toads use up to 14 leaders of water per flush even though 3 leaders might be plenty depending on what needs to go down the drain. in 2011 the 1000000 and then the gas foundation initiated the reinvent the charlatans. it awarded grands to researchers to develop sustainable tal technology that could function without connections to the public sewage systems. teams, adults, university of technology, for example, are using the grant work on a water saving toilet system that employs microwave technology to transform human waste into electricity. cranfield university in the you, k, use the grand to finance the development of the nano membrane toilet the country. human waste, without any external energy or water. the time it relies on the mechanism activated
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by the pull of a lever and vaporize ation. after vaporizing the ways the liquids are filtered to a special membrane. sorry, crap recap. tyler had shared to in history for centuries. and continue through so many, many people around the world need was and we all knew it. so next time to take for your 1st name, just make calls for a moment and reflect the monumental acts of angel, prize, ingenuity, and perseverance. you're about an impulse between what your hands. afterwards throughout the pandemic, many of us have got used to the idea of working remotely. after all, the less we come in contact with each other, the less chance we have a spread of virus. but what about health care itself? before over 19 turned our lives upside down. the trend towards tele medicine was
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already developing. not every ailment requires and in person visits, the doctor, the crisis is only served to increase our appetite for digital consultations. oh, i need to see a dermatologist it's short notice except the next available appointment is in fair months time. but then i discover a doctor offering online consultation. after entering a few personal details on her website, i find myself talking to her just a few minutes later. yeah, i have that i get paid. yeah, my hands have been really, really dry for quite a long time now. and the, it's a bit to talk 9 tough wishing your hands more frequently might have impaired your skin. it's natural protective barrier. this can lead to a kind of x ma. so the 1st thing you need to do is apply hand cream a lot more often. the online consultation costs $30.00 euros. i consider
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that a price worth paying if i had a problem i was concerned about as i get how quickly and easily in many cases we can look at the patients who make an assessment based on the severity and extent of the problem. and then also determine the degree of urgency. of course that's no substitute for personal contact. you still need doctors surgeries for physical checking or for certain technical equipment needed for a more precise diagnosis. the reason being to get the video consultation serves as a preliminary finding for diseases, whereas the visual check by the doctor is enough. this form of medical treatment has only been permitted in germany since 2019 in the corona, virus era, patients are happy for the opportunity to save time and avoid risk of infection and demand historic. like so many other areas of life medical care is now also becoming
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digitalized. people with chronic conditions can, for example, have their blood pressure monitoring remotely by stanford clinic next data health care management experts, affiliate unkind thing says patients in germany have become increasingly receptive to the concept of telemedicine. this is lead to greater willingness among investors to provide funding that enables young companies to acquire new technologies. carbon dioxide can bit of us into a lot of firms in germany, of insufficient funding going on. but i, especially the case, would start at all a laugh and that's no changing. and some areas we're seeing many parts of the health sector getting a lot more capital, isn't enabled us to catch up with us. for example, with all our companies now have a better setup all round off with competent team so they can develop a broader scope. it seems that all my brighter intricate, couldn't the digital doom has benefited and given birth to a lot of startups. swedish company crew has developed
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a digital health that allows users to consult with the doctor at live. after registering on line patients answer a series of questions about their symptoms and can then request an appointment. the cruise network now extends to 900 doctors across europe covering all manner of medical conditions. and i really infection in terry l infections, headaches, many different types of pain, diarrhea, and vomiting i infections. everything that normally a general practitioner would deal with short notice. based on the alarm that tried putting your head down, said that your chin meets your chest. painful? yeah, yes, i feel it on the right side of my head where the pain is the services available in scandinavia, france, britain, and now in germany to doctors speak of range of different languages. in germany,
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consultations are offered in german or english prescriptions, sick notes and referrals are all issued electronically. but doesn't that raise data privacy concern? i start feel a lot to hand off. a lot of people will have questions because it's also new sources and data privacy concerns are always great when it comes to health matters and then we're seeing people getting used to it pretty quickly. they know that it works on the doctors who have tele medical treatment training are able to find out a lot by asking the patient questions. and this is often digital applications are now commonplace and health care world. in addition to remote consultations, they now also enable after care for acute and chronic diseases, ordering medication, compiling patient data, and even psychotherapy services. ah, when it comes to serious life threatening conditions, there is no substitute for
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a proper visit to the doctor. but telemedicine can offer supplementary health, and in germany, for example, health insurance companies now cover both types of treatment. you can say telemedicine, remote working with a catch with fewer reasons, to go out, you're moving a whole lot less. but that's where self motivation comes into play, and i'd much rather go for a jog than sit on a trap train or bus to the doctors. just ask all of clear the yes good. so here we go. times. so it's 41, a good warming up. it's really important stretching very important, behold, going to actions. it's warming enough time to maybe see me me,
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