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hey, a positive message there from germany's yen drake among the favorites are greece's entries to funnier with this song. and finland blind channel has a slightly different bite, something for everybody. as always, that is our time or documentary theories is up next with a look at women and islam on the call from berlin. i'll be back at the top of the hour with more. thanks for joining. ah ah, utility species explanation looking to do this, the language of your research team to the pacific to include which of wales starts june, boy,
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msw. ah, the thing about covering women's faces because it's beautiful and you don't want to get that attention or because families one to not show their women faces. and that also comes from ownership. a female body. and patriarchal societies, men feel like they have the right to tell a female in their families cover her face or to cover her hair, her body. and so i took that kind of to the next level and just removed my face. so it became something like, let's say like a modern r o to
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be happy to be successful. and we try so hard, but there's a lot of people who will try to bay us because they all just think that we are not guilty enough and they don't want us to be in control. they don't want to be successful in speech, my chest every time i feel i can feel the checks which was really scary. i see in the a knife setting them in and i used to so to,
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to shut on. so i chose this 1st because it means every hardship come good thing. i feel like it's related to women struggling with just being women. you all the past, the present and the future with the heart. they can really love job as you balance the mass of the world. the shows is filled with them a ration when i see women stand up and prove that they will not conform to remarks about this or the way that they dress. women are not just a bag of flesh views, their social use and centuries has been signed and our bodies where became the battle grounds of patrick acts of races. now we,
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i think we have enough now we are mobilizing organizing across the countries, including in europe, in order to reclaim our voices and to reclaim our authority. the protest in morocco's capital robots under the lou here having sex before or outside marriage can lead to a one year jail term. the north african country also has harsh penalties for abortion 28 year old journalist has sony sent accused of parent offences. the case has driven many to protest and to demand self determination for women. ah, the standing up for their rights. young muslim women worldwide expect move from life than their mothers. and they put up with less. they one legal equality for women with or without head scarves. and that love the freedom to go out without a husband, brother, or father, as guardians. all across the muslim world,
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women are fighting social change the the story as well. how much 1st wife had each continues to inspire muslim women today due to was the suppression because she was a very successful business woman. she knew how to choose the right people to work for us, situate profit for 100. she turned off a lot of marriages as being respectful reach you, but a lot of men i at the time, almost 1500 years. she knew how to say no to man. she's the one who asked. perfect mohammed get married, so she has the guts to know what to say with this is the man i can see the cause i think is good for me. i would say has each i was empowered. she was an empowered woman. sarah, most so is
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a political scientist. she works for the women's injury. oh, massage. were in paris, the group sites for equality and justice in muslim families. her own family originally came from morocco. as a teenager in france, she encountered prejudice against her faith time. and again, i was well spoken child. i was very loud. i was very proud to be able to memorize so many sort of from the and if any being the elder daughter and mom is not easy because the community looks up to you. but when i was young, i didn't feel this pressure. i was actually talking up to my father, i liked reading the and out loud in the mosque, i wanted to become like him. i wanted to be able to preach to leave the prayer. and at that time, and while growing up, i didn't really see the manifestations of by to keep within my own religion. because i was too busy fighting against the summer for me and racism in society in school, in the looking for a job,
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leisure activities and just in the streets in france. way agenda equality is enshrined in the constitution and religion is strictly separated from the state. many people are critical of conservative as lum. since the ism is terrorist attacks of 2015, the number of his lemme service attacks in the country has increased. many of directed against muslim women for alter and muslim f zane of missouri. the problem isn't religion or the koran. the patriarchy, elmer's rock was born in hanover, the daughter of moroccan immigrants. she argues for an open and critical interpretation of islam. and she puts muslim gender chaise under the microscope. the john is traditionally islam. it's actually a religion. it has to be a title that doesn't mean and the floor in my book,
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emancipation in islam is that the situation for women hasn't improved. i knew there wasn't the role of the woman in islam whether she can be emancipated within islam. is one of the big questions of our time on that because we talk a lot about islam around the world, not just in germany, unit is emancipation possible. and islam, i'd say yes, but it's incredibly dependent on you interprets religion and what mindset she has all flaked or device. you guys can these are since the 2011 revolution, the country on the mediterranean coast has been in a state of upheaval. the islamic scholar up dennis sheet sharpie was a member of the commission for individual liberties and equal rights. its goal was to find solutions to achieve more rights for women. and he slammed the
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author. islam cannot stand in the way if the emancipation of women knew the christian museum, nor can christianity or judaism lives on. but i said can't in principle because the position of women was always explicitly inferior in the monotheistic religious traditions. they extend all 3 religions only to our religion. so we have to make a distinction for fair between the religion itself. lamb, the tradition that stems from that religion at that i'd be sure, is yours. a suit said in paris, the seaman via cries are being avoided. it's named after the health minister for, for abortion rights and france in 1975. 1 of the nominees is
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then recently the french rock for many years. what was the turtle magazine show me at the door in 201512 people were killed in an attack on the magazines office since then. and there recently has been one of frances fees, this critics of islam. these landfills and so city, it's on the farm, islam, the women is worth less than the man and is subject to him. the subordinate, the women are dependent on their guardianship will not their money their will, what their sexual desires, these which the woman is not allowed to resist, no matter if she has a wife or a lover that will do as soon as a woman reject the model prescribed by society, she is denigrated as a whore. no, for she has a woman without morals, in the eyes of society, say it was a city,
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lebanon has a long christian tradition, but muslims make up the majority of the population. 30 years after the civil war, the country is divided along demographic lines. jumanda had done grew up in a conservative catholic family. the experience made her an atheist, the lebanese journalist brakes to be with her weekly tv program. the topic today, violence against women. it happens in my society and other arab societies. women are re, to what's between their legs. this is how men conceive honor, the owner of the family. their own honor is tied to what a woman does with her body. she is denied the basic rights of sexual freedom. and even if she is suspected to have done may be some thing that is not
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right by the standards of the social and religious norms, she is killed. the main problem is that this killer, this assassin, gets away with it because it is called a crime of honor. and it's the crime of this honor. it's a crime point. the sun is sole from birth to death. a woman constantly here is the word. schumer and her mom had her shoes. my name is, jane. don't be graceful. that's what they used to say to one girl shush! and her mean sin had all. so those are the 2 words that accompany a woman all her life. between shame and sin, some of us want to snatch a bit of free. if not many, who had political say was a buffet soon. i
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where the curzy tammy ma am or even mean? show the thing for that to mean. do you have been said in the bush and sewing on it in me? oh, don't be a man, you mean call in and out of who you want. and the key this is who are at marie m a, mary in the and i've chosen this sort of because it's a school that said a brave woman who with and creation. and we find occurrences of the defined
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feminine in this 1st is through the words men, the merciful, which comes from the good word doomed the islamic feminist. this cause operates at 2 levels. on one hand, it's a scholarship that critically revisit and unpack dominance. well, you just interpretations that are discriminatory against women. on the 2nd hand, it also aims to produce new knowledge that makes a case for gender equality. but within and islamic about buying. the objective of the movement in his priority is to challenge dispatcher reading and to bring in woman lenses to bring in feminist fences in the way we understand. and we approach islamic textual sources. oh cyrus ro at my sama, is knowledge building coordinator in 2009, the n g. i began working in on a little more than 250 activists islamic scholars. and louis from 47 countries
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took part in a call for equality and justice. in muslim families and religious values with central to the appeal, those who believe that islamic feminism is an agreement or that islam and feminism, i contradictory, in fact, they need to check their own assumptions when you believe in feminism, you can't exclude other woman and other struggles from this collective struggle with a wise, you're not true to your feminist ethics, islamic feminist, most especially one to empower practicing muslim women to help them enforce their rights as mothers lives, and citizens. according to islamic tradition, men hold play over women. as guardians, they decide on education, independence, work, choice of husband and children. the
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to nation fallacy has sharpie has been in muslim feminist edison. she was young. she studied physics in paris in the 1950s. for a long time she taught at the university of tunis, one of the few women to do so. she's concerned that women in tunisia and cities are increasingly wearing head scarves, again. symbol who move if i like to think back to that time a bit. my mess my father and mother fitted for back then the women are all dressed like europeans in general. came my comment. i love to show my grandmother for free because she didn't always wear hid scobee say to perform much when she was at home. she was just herself,
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is yellow combat just slightly gyptian women to new scene women who've been struggling since it started the 20th century defense. in the, in 1956, denisia gained its independence. the 1st president, her beeper, gave himself as an advocate for women. he ushered in considerable improvements like the prohibition of polygamy, divorce laws, and the introduction of a minimum age for marriage. girls and women gained access to schools, universities, and the labor markets and the elections and within dependence. in 1950 sinks president forgive to show that chris he don't president, he was convinced that women should be emancipated good. the fact that women list
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reported by the father and grandfather very early on how it was with me. my father thought that academic success was very important to me more ways to make sure that my educational development was taken as seriously as my brothers, jude or men to present the most divide. hickman academy of sciences is located on the gulf of tunis. 5 thick volumes of books originated here, titled the koranic text and its variance. up to the sheet sharpie, went for years on the contextualization of the koran. jewish and christian sources were analyzed, including arrow make and syrian literature. the latest edition shades new line from the familiar text look are only ma'am. on the koran, it sounds as revelation, it was an oral and taxed the text. it was not a fixed, written taxi. don't so the document have today gene,
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this revelation. so nick, you know, is many the work of people. and then it isn't the revelation itself, not that i might do in the work we do, helps muslims, and also non muslims. you get more to do away with a literal reading of the text. in the lift you need to sit in demand. it's an approach that usually leads to great interest in the spirit of sin rather than in the literal meaning that the nearly all of the koran. 114 series contain a lot of ambiguity. ah, so we ask question, how do we know we know? how do we know if this interpretation is actually an interpretation of what god had
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in mind? how do we know if this is a source of authority? why this male scholars through the centuries had more authority than a woman today living in one context for understand this text for her own experience from a woman's perspective, tenicia is the most liberal muslim country in the region. even so reforms are needed. islamic scholar also use of has written extensively on issues like inheritance, low polygamy and homosexuality as they relate to the koran. uses compares the interpretations of males scholars from the middle ages to those of today and critiques their positions because of fast. she's been threatened by islamists raheem a low noodle, similar to a lot of methyl louis, he comes and they're all in the special fees. j. j. copeland, re you and you do when you're in a lash or whatever you're good to say to how you we will not
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new. not new. yeah. you love who had the love last so like 20 for the light. yeah. verse $35.00 plus this 1st cause very much by heart because it addresses god as light to evoke jews. i see this light as the spark of consciousness that encompasses family people, animals and things to do. now it confirms that god is everything that and that there is only one that he can just got new, local stuff like that you. no one knows the interpretation but god does the problems even ambiguity, jenika. on the contrary, i think these ambiguous readings are an asset. they allow the tech to open up the problem. the problem comes when someone think, okay, this is the meaning now says love, this is the true,
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and i'm going to impose it on other that's really the issue. the love football you read the koran, you can't just settle for what other people say. you can listen to them, ask questions because we didn't in fact, you should sometimes the law. but above all, you have to take responsibility for your own interpretation. you ah, it is in christianity and islam. all 3 religions research are common patriarchs, abraham. ah, me, i believe that there are women who are trying to reconcile their faith with their own human dignity however they can. but personally, i believe feminism is either secular or is not specially for talking about the
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taste religions. they're very butree are called all 3 of them. i mean, women is just to read me that islamic feminists have found arguments for the equality of men and women in the koran story of creation in sir, for verse one, god didn't create the woman from the river of the man. he created an original soul, not saying where he does tame, which is a feminine term in arabic. and took miss in justices of their time to the justice of their time. it gave women many important tribes in the patriarchal culture of 7th century. yeah. but at that time, the notion of justice doesn't include the idea of equality between men and women because gender equality is a modern concept to be learned, immune is shavelle and l y d rock mag washy. me, me, me or the line id id me off is
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that would be should be the oh, who are in a mostly i don't shut off the give me because i love to give my family god created to get it before you asked us to give them one of the possible the dana high doesn't spend much time in france anymore. she left the country because of rising is lemme phobia. and now this in london, she to seize islam as a source of empowerment for women. it said that mohammed gave dignity back to disenfranchised women. let's see, do please let me, society and the women had the same status as animals or possession. they didn't have the right to inherit. they were the inheritance. girls were killed at birth.
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then islam came on and said, no, women must also have the right to inherit, that change in women's status facts. and with revolutionary women with no right. who could be killed or given away? became people with the right to inherit property, dash picked simply 34 versus 11 states that a woman should inherit about half of what a man gets. the reasons for the unequal treatment is that women didn't usually bear responsibility for providing for their family. ah, so it was taken for granted that men should be allocated the largest share of an inheritance. ah, should it be? the verse says that the share of inheritance is the guaranteed minimum for women.
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but there's nothing wrong with giving more than that to to do. the priest was really these days, women work. they participated in family life. i split expenses with my husband. he was having more money to say, and i pay my taxes like a man, like any room to play on pieces. so is it just a viable through religion? i only get one as much as my parents' inheritance. when the koran doesn't oppose the quality in that situation, so i think they could do karone allows men to have up to 4 winds. critics of his lum claim. this is miss such any an instrument of male domination.
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there are 3 races that talk about believe me in the what i can say in this what a title, woman. and you look at the 1st verse, it's gives you the 1st step solution. you can marry one to 4 wise. so you caught now, mary 10 and 15. it is restricted, then you have to convert that. com and say you have to treat all of these wives equally. so you can just, it's not just a maximum. you also have to keep in mind justice and equality. but then you have the 3rd verse that comes and this 1st verse, let's just say it's that actually even if you want to be equal, god knows that you can't be mailed interpreters or patrick's will look at this verse and say the her and gave me the right, to marry for wise, but they don't look at the 2 other versus do you treat them equally? if and if you claim that you do? god says that you can't. huh. the head scout for
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women is one of his lambs, most controversial requirements, especially in the west that what does the koran actually say? and can thinness? we're head scarves when it takes to see here in a french context, in an environment that is vehemently opposed to the head scarf. i am a rebels, a militant feminist, but it would look, i don't want anyone to tell me whether i can wear a head scott or not. it's just enough not to be pressured by anyone in my family. for small. my mother was against me wearing one incentive goal, but i told her that i hadn't asked for her opinion due to this was, but i just want to wear it one day and not the next to me. i don't care what people think so. so in the name of gender equality and now denying muslim woman to control their own bodies to appear in the public space. we are punishing them by excluding them from the schools. and now there are people who
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talk about binding the job also in university. we are excluding them from workplaces. we excluding them from nature activities in the minds of right we movements and french radicals because it became an obsession. the most often used to 1st crime the so called islamic, hence gothic to some criminal good is a verse that simply says you've coverage can be used by the female lap. what's in there for me, but that has nothing to do with a requirement to cover the hand dispute or the see the let them mr. mendoza, he made up because hello. hello inside them and i look what
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a memorable pelham i live in china. my, let me add them. so the law allows him. this is sort of the line up from the put on . actually this is the 1st sort of that prophet mohammed has received. and here god is ordering him to read. and this shows the importance of reading and help people should learn more every time to become better people in her boutique in the money capital musket. i'm a, i see designs what she calls modest fashion. that is fashion that embodies islamic values around the world. muslim women spend billions on clothing and accessories every year. already you see is a mother of 3, a successful fashion designer and about muslim. most of the employees are men. islam has always respected women, and always treated the women the right way. so i think we're, i feel so lucky being
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a muslim because islam gave me all my rights. it's not about being a male or female. it's about if you can earn it. if you can work hard to get it, you can say that mr. per women and i can do everything on my own. i don't believe that this can happen. like for me to have things run properly for me to be a successful interpreter, i need the support of my husband because being a mom is very important, but there are some days where i'm so busy. like today i have a long day of appointments. and i woke up this morning, my daughter was sick, so my husband decided that he will take the day off just making sure that someone is taking care of my daughter and that i can get my important things done.
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this is going to be my aunt on winter collection next year. and basically it's inspired the patterns of traditional or money address that they can buy. it is something that you see everyone wearing now, but it's actually not part of our tradition. it's something that came in later on and became so trendy that everyone started wearing it. but when you go back to traditional addresses, then there's so colorful, so full of patterns and completely different than i by ah, soon, the 900 seventy's, saudi arabia and other producing states have gained influence in the world. guest workers took their experiences back to other muslim nations. ah, meanwhile, rich ruling elite systematically invested in media as well as financing schools.
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and must all this lead to the exploitation of a highly conservative interpretation of islam. ah, the radian people as a to the shop in 1979. partly due to an anti capitalist movement that wanted to end the political and economic influence of the united states. ah, nest doing liberals and communists, including many women played a major role. they couldn't foresee how the situation would deteriorate under the islamic regime with its rigid legal system controlled by religious scholars. i have a sequence show here said the po to sri really, it's not the koran. national shari'a is the muslim law,
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is the collection of regulations that were written, let's say 2 centuries after the revelation of the less your defensible thing about it is the petition of women sick. like the stoning of women who commit adultery. that true. there's no such thing in the textbook around the deferment if they're sick or sentencing someone to death the turning away from the religion who see says he that doesn't exist in those terms. in the text of the koran man said to press creeps, y'all, can you go today? it's very important to explain to people who want to practice is that there are differences between chronic text and shari'a and also to take school nick a lash up. yet perhaps the most controversial passage in the koran is sura for verse 34. does it really call for men to physically abuse their wives? if they rebel?
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well let's see to her phone and i will not quite sure who this is phil. i believe i chose the verse from the soda on nissan the women home because it symbolizes the superiority of that allah, the god of islam ranch, men over women, diversities in europe and the united states is not mac feminists in particular have questioned this interpretation. i don't want to hear about interpretation. you know, i think her was the her, i can read era is like most era, right? and that's the word means. what is lama scholars talk about? the ones who explain the version of you page by page around your mom's and move to
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say that you should be women. i'm the say gently small, but they're still saying what is the piano? 5 teams and tradition. and we found out that's all this is community re interpretations could be traced to one verse, which is a verse for $34.00 from sort of to me. so you have the words at when know which was the word that actually raised most of the controversies and i encourage you to look at the studies and the books that have been books with and just about the small words in order to end back its meaning and again, if you look at this, what tradition of the it has been interpreted and translated as being as meaning beating, and also used to justify the fact that its men could be their wife when you look at the tone she and what this was, how this work was used in order instances in the court and it is used for complete order. a definition and purpose is for example, it's used when moiz is putting his a stick in order to separate the c into where this is used is under him.
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it's not, it doesn't mean be think this interpretation is for example, when highlighted the fact that this is actually a solution given by god. whenever you have a conflict, don't act aggressively, but instead just separates the bit. but they can let you really see. the secretary really is so you don't girls so seriously and for the result on her do you going over so she loves his older, lo will connect to the company. then now she do not daughter me. sure. could that if you know, could you be sure to chose their seduce? so let us say explain the fit, the sense that the profit was delivered. the divine revelation. jean may suddenly was not a political leader in your god alone is the guardian of all things. not the prophets
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make better proof that includes religion shows the co credentials of years. don't want to show greece. i think it's a great shame going in today's world and a group of muslims, although not all of them belong to a so called political islam say, there is spreading this an attempt to my society on the left islam. she's determined everything, the justice to education, to the status of women is all don't to don't reply. i don't recall, failed to really can, shouldn't dominate public life. defense especially bleak. that's for on fighting against on dual julie should assist him. i think the public spaces for social interaction to associate we can't allow women to be included from certain spaces in this day and age should exclude the system.
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i'm a pro secondary activist fiercely because if we don't separate states and religion and our country, we are never going to be a modern civilized were the states never? i'm not just talking about living on. i'm talking about everywhere. you cannot mix religion with, with, with, with the politics. also, that my home is that many people to fade of emancipation most emancipation. it doesn't take anything from the opposite unless it give her much like joy and like new discoveries. and the only thing we have to do now, and then we've never take him before the gave him one of these tense
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the tenacious revolution had a lot to do with emancipation after the overthrow of the dictator, tunisians adopted the constitution that put women and men on equal footing, women are now allowed to marry, non muslims, and violence against women is an offense if you don't. so virus and i mean the positively is here today to agents talk about almost sexuality and as long as they talk about equality and inheritance law. and as long as they discuss the relationship between being muslim, look and being a citizen and a democratic control and try to overcome the division and the problem that was still some say it's impossible to be a muslim down, especially a muslim woman and modern looks like you could or that it's impossible to be muslim
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and to stand for absolute equality between men and women. in the struggle for an islamic feminism. muslim women arising up and fighting their way towards emancipation with bravery and wisdom for middle school. if you look even at them, one of the most advanced european european countries, very few have 5050 percent representation between men and women. and it's a bullying. i mean, like, for example, when i look at sometimes the leaders of the prime ministers of europe, when they're gathered all together. and i just angela merkel and maybe one other women. and then all men say, this is europe. what's happening? this is 2019 in europe. we then are we supposed to do here?
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if that is europe, you know what i mean? so you have a lot to do as well. don't think that it is over the me ah, ah ah . busy ah, ah, in good shape. it's been like motor body. oh liver is our main body organ that gets rid of many talked the consumption of alcohol and fruit can frighten itself by closing fatty liver and throat. so how can you
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protect your liver? choose united w o was the news. it's been ongoing quest for a bit if the arab spring began in 2011, people stood up against corrupt, rulers and dictatorship. all these moments had left the box in my memory. the me, they had hoped for more security, more freedom, more dignity, have their hopes in from me 10 years after the marriage spring. rebellion
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